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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 12:48 PM

First episode! Will it be a dream? Or a dud?

Episode description: "The son of a self-made millionaire vanishes on his way to school; a rebel investigator must retrieve the victim."

Edited to add: Hmmmm. The thread seems to have opened early here... well, rather than lock it back up, I'm just going to leave it open and trust that you folks won't start posting until the episode comes to a full a complete halt.

Edited by Mr. Sobell, Sep 20, 2006 @ 8:40 PM.


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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:01 PM

I really, really enjoyed the pilot. Great acting, I was rivited. Can't wait until next week

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 9:54 PM

It wasn't bad. I don't love it but there's nothing else on. I'll keep watching.

But I already have a character to hate--the bad boy, anti-FBI guy. Oh, he breaks all the rooolz! He's too cool for school! Ugh, hate. And he's gonna keep beating people up next week too. I want the housekeeper to kick his ass!

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 9:54 PM

I really, really enjoyed the pilot. Great acting, I was rivited. Can't wait until next week

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 9:54 PM

sorry

Edited by Unclebuck, Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:01 PM.


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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:04 PM

Mr. Sobell, it's a dream.

I loved it. The Mutant from X-Files is the spider at the center of the evil web.

Jeremy Sisto has surpassed himself in this role. I always like the dark figure outside of official channels who is smarter than everybody else. This specialist will keep my attention all season.

Oh, a dark story with a gruff antihero!! Huzzah!!

And a particularly good cast to boot.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 9:59 PM

I found it to be incredibly boring. Maybe I was expecting more. I'll still watch next week, but it just didn't hook me like I thought it would.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:07 PM

Loved it. Looks like I'll have to tape it while until the Project Runway season comes to a close.

Billy, loved you in SFU and am loving you now.
Dana Delany is just such a breath of fresh air.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:01 PM

I liked it. I have a thing for well-done kidnapping stories - providing this is well done.

That said, it's up against Grey's Anatomy. Not good.

And I'm wondering when the first Leopold/Kidnapper slash fanfic will show up.

ETA: Tooms! I knew he was an X-files baddie, I just couldn't figure out which one.

Edited by Special, Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:04 PM.


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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:08 PM

Hmm.

Ok, first of all -- Conrad? Is this supposed to be TH's good luck charm or something? It can't be an accident.

I thought the premiere was great looking, and the actors are terrific, but oy -- the cliches! Just in the FBI we have the (1) smart professional, on the verge of retirement; (2) the young and smart newcomer hoping to learn and more willing to follow the smart professional than the (3) arrogant bureaucratic asshole.

I'm hoping that they're all piled into the opening and that things get more original in future episodes. I feel hope just because Jeremy Sisto is in the mix. And I like that we've seen the bad guy (Tooms!) rather than have shadowy profiles and shots of gloved hands.

I'll record it once "The Nine" starts and follow along, at least for now.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:11 PM

And none of the passersby reported a gun fight on the street? Please.

Are we going to start a pool as to which episode the kid's ability to hold his breath for over 3 minutes becomes important?

The acting didn't take me out of the action. Unlike Standoff. Will give it a few more episodes which will be helped by the fact that I have the extended cable box which gives me network channels in several Canadian timezones so that I can always catch it later than 10 if something else is on.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:04 PM

Grey's Antomy is on Thursdays, so KN won't be going up against it.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:12 PM

Was the scene with Virgil in the hospital on the DVD sent out by Netflix? I could have sworn that it was the lawyer mentioning Leopold when he complained to the FBI that set Delroy Lindo off on the kidnapping theory.

Or maybe I zoned out for a few seconds there.

I enjoyed it and will watch again. By far the best character is The Accountant though. He should get his own spin-off.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:05 PM

Tooms!


Ahh, to me he'll always be the asshole in The Green Mile.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:12 PM

Well, at least it's better than Vanished. It's good to see a show about a missing person that stars a man who has more than one facial expression.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:20 PM

Yes, the Accountant is great. I like that actor.

It's true that there are a lot of types here that we've seen before, but because it's well acted and executed, I am happy to go along.

eta:

"Ordinary People"

Great movie, Paul, and it was immortalized in The Fisher King as a porn film, Ordinary Peepholes. Heh.

Edited by SnippyScholar, Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:37 PM.


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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:25 PM

mrs dalgleish, you beat me to it on the Conrad reference ("Ordinary People"--movie, not song--for you youngsters out there. Go rent it if you've never seen it, you won't be sorry.)

I pretty much agree with your assessment of the show as well, although I'm not buying Jeremy Sisto's character (I'm a rebel, can't you tell? I only shave once a week) just yet. I am loving Delany, Hutton, and Lindo, however.

Being a New Yorker, I have to point out a goof. They mentioned that the subway station for the money drop was Church Street, but the station they were at is Church Avenue (Church St. is in Manhattan, Church Ave. is in Brooklyn). At first I thought that maybe it was supposed to be a made-up station name, because you only see "Church" on most of the signs in the station. However, there's one shot where you can see an overhead sign that says "Church Av."

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:24 PM

Not sure what happened to my post...

In short, liked the show, plotting and actors. I'll be tuning in again next week, especially since there's nothing else on Wednesday nights.

There were obvious cliches (angry/blaming wife, retiring FBI guy, renegade loner), but I think the actors playing those roles pulled it out.

I was tense with the subway and Brooklyn scenes, so that's always a good thing. It kept my interest, unlike other kidnapping shows beings aired this season.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:37 PM

Well, at least it's better than Vanished.

Infomercials are better than Vanished imo.

Kidnapped is my second favorite show of the season so put me down on the "loved it" column.
The actors are terrific and while there are plenty of clichés I don't mind them when they're well portrayed. Good acting (thanks to an experienced adult cast) gives me hope for later less cliché contrivances.

I liked the production values and the pacing was good.

Being French I am bound to scream at bad pronunciation and Leopold will surely drive me nuts in that regard. I'll try to remember his "The Big Blue" poster in his bedroom and not wish him ill just for that.

Is it too early (or wrong) to hope that Knapp wears a "what would Creepy Jesus bomb?" tee shirt?
I miss Six Feet Under. *sigh*
Anyhoo I'm glad Sisto got a character who's very different from Billy Chenowith.

I'm happy to see Williamson again. I loved him in Boomtown (I miss that show too, well the first season anyway).

I'm not very familiar with Delaney, she's a HITG for me but she did a great job here and her speech at the end while very formulaic still worked for me. She managed to sell it even though it was a series of stinker lines. Again, if the right emotion is portrayed I'll forgive the platitudes.

I saw Ramson but I had completely forgotten Lindo was in it and I think it was a good thing as I may have cringed a little at seeing him play the FBI lead here as well.

The only sore spot I had was the father. I can't explain why really, I just didn't connect with him, his fear, his worry, his anger...it all fell flat. Acting, writing? Not sure which to blame so I'll hold my judgement.

All in all, I'm pretty excited about this show and I wish it gets picked up by the network and TWoP for more than one season.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:40 PM

Shouldn't the kidnappers have shot the bodyguard (you know, the guy with the gun) first? And shouldn't this show have made me give a crap about the kidnapee before he was kidnapped to create a little bit of tension? And shouldn't I have spent this hour watching reruns of Criss Angel, Mindfreak instead? (Yes)

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:33 PM

I liked it.

One nitpick: Conrad gives himself what appears to be a pretty nasty cut while shaving (if the amount of blood was any indication), then comes downstairs without so much as a scratch on his face.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:43 PM

I only made it to 30 minutes and figure if I can't make it any further I can't amke it a whole season.

I think it was trying a little to hard with cut aways and flashbacks and so forth.

Edited by redbirds, Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:45 PM.


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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:50 PM

This is easily my favorite of the new fall shows so far. I do love a good powerhouse cast. Not to mention the smart, instead of smartass, kids on the show. When the show ended on the phone call I felt irritated, like somebody was reading a story to me and stopped right at the good part. That's when I knew I was hooked.

I was a little surprised that the Mykelti Williamson bodyguard angle was dropped so quickly. Shouldn't the Delroy Lindo character (sorry, still learning character's names here) be holding a grudge against Conrad? Even if his motives were pure, Conrad basically hung his son's bodyguard out to dry. He didn't know that the bodyguard would be found and hospitalized. So it was kind of odd to me that it was seemingly a non-issue for everybody concerned.

Loved the symmetry of the kid reading the Buddhist book and then being forced to live in what closely resembles a monk's chamber.

Here in the south it's a common thing for grown women to call their fathers "daddy" but it still makes me squirm. Can't wait to meet Daddy and find out why he garners so much more respect than hubby.

Loved Knapp. Or should I call him KidKnapp? But I will spend the season wishing he would bathe, shave and change his clothes.

Count me in for watching the Accountant spinoff show.

Edited by Bentley, Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:53 PM.


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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 10:55 PM

I'm happy. Jeremy, Timothy, Dana, good to see y'all again--some great actors here and an original premise. Some of the weird flashback effects were rather pointless, but I think everybody now feels they have to do this sort of thing to be edgy. Just me I'm sure, but I was unduly distracted by the kid's name---other than an occasional king or emperor, has anyone actually been named Leopold? Is this some kind of inside baseball, like "Conrad" ?

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 11:08 PM

Just me I'm sure, but I was unduly distracted by the kid's name---other than an occasional king or emperor, has anyone actually been named Leopold?



Well there was Philidelphia Orchestra conductor Leopold Stokowski. That is the only one I can think of. I think it is just the long version of Leo. If my name was Leo, I think I might go by Leopold too.

Was it ever addressed why nobody noticed the gunfight in the middle of the street?

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 11:05 PM

Leopold was the name of one-half of a famous kidnapping duo. I'm sure if you looked hard enough you would find a famous kidnapping case with people named "Caine."

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 11:15 PM

I thought that this was excellent. Loved seeing Dana Delany and Timothy Hutton. I never liked Jeremy Sisto on SFU but I like him and his assistant here. (I liked how he rescued the girl in the opening.) that the actual kidnapping scene was done very well. Definitely tuning in next week.

My overriding thought: I want that apartment.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 11:19 PM

I thought pretentious names went hand in hand with a certain class of rich people.

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 11:32 PM

Put me in the "OK, but not great" category. I'll watch at least one more episode to see if it really catches me. I mostly tuned in because I think Delroy Lindo's awesome, even if he's playing the same role as in Ransom.

This is hopelessly nerdy, but I was bugged by the unnecessary use of quotation marks in both the ransom note and the subtitles.

No doubt Leopold's ability to hold his breath will come into play at some point... and is it just me, or did it look like he had a scar on his chest in the pool scene? Coupled with his mom's reference to his medication, it makes me think he's going to have some kind of heart issue or something as the show goes on. Of course it's not enough for the kid just to be kidnapped; no doubt TPTB will give him an urgent health issue as well to ramp up the "suspense."

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Posted Sep 20, 2006 @ 11:36 PM

I've made it my personal mission to see every single new show out of boredom and so far this is the only one i'm interested in. With my attention span that's incredible.

Or I may just find Jeremy Sisto fine as all hell since SFU.