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[Miss Alli]

Okay. I would like to experiment -- EXPERIMENT -- with a Discussion thread, to try to segregate actual Live Feed Highlights from the discussion that naturally follows.

What this thread is not: This thread is not intended either to serve as, or to allow the LFH thread to serve as, any more of a moment-by-moment Live Feed Real-Time Commentary than it was before. The idea here is to allow you to discuss the major points of the live feeds while still respecting what we've asked you to do in terms of avoiding "8:32 PM, Will is picking his nose" posts and avoiding clutter.

My intent is to allow the actual LFH thread to include pretty much the what's-happening parts of the highlights. And this is where you would discuss the consequences, your opinion, blah.

We're feeling it out as we go, but since y'all have been pretty cool about avoiding weirdness in LFH, I thought we'd try this and see how it goes. As cautioned previously, don't hammer the threads with traffic, and please try to remember that it's an experiment, and we'll have to see how it goes. Okay? Okay. Thanks for all your generally good behavior so far this season.

[ButterflyBandit]

I swear on everything holy - including peanut butter, chocolate and Wentworth Miller's body - that if I hear Mike Boogie talking about how financially endowed he is one more time ... well, let's just say ... Okay, that's an empty threat. I have nothing. Nothing but a whole lot of hatred for the "Boogie Man."

[Stinger97]

So, I just remembered Will and Boogie's plan from last week in case CT happened into an HoH win. They were supposed to call the S6 up into the HoH room, one by one, and tell them that the house wants two from the S6 nominated. They would then tell each member of the S6 that between the four of them (Janie, James, Kaysar and Howie), they would have to decide who should be nominated. CT was hoping that would cause S6 to implode.

But CT didn't win. S6 did. So hoorah.

[Rina99]

So, I just remembered Will and Boogie's plan from last week in case CT happened into an HoH win. They were supposed to call the S6 up into the HoH room, one by one, and tell them that the house wants two from the S6 nominated. They would then tell each member of the S6 that between the four of them (Janie, James, Kaysar and Howie), they would have to decide who should be nominated. CT was hoping that would cause S6 to implode.

Yep. That scene in and of itself was more than enough to keep me rooting for S6 to the end (well, except for James, because he just sucks). And now they're trying to fool the house into thinking that they're split up. Hilarious.

The thing is, though, as much as I can't stand Booger, it might be smarter to get Diane out. If an endurance comp is coming up, she's going to be like a rock up there, unmovable. In the grand scheme of things, the S6 have gotten rid of those who were real HoH/POV threats.

[Stinger97]

Diane and Boogie are great potential nominees. I think both are great choices to leave because I do feel like Diane could win an endurance competition. If there's one thing she has over everyone else, it's desperation. Boogie and Will are just annoying.

I agree. Diane is a tough competitor in terms of endurance, and Boogie is annoying. If either of them go, I'll be extremely happy. I'd probably be happier with Boogie gone, but if Diane going is better for S6, that's fine as well.

I think the S6ers may be overlooking Danielle, but I like her so I can forgive it.

I don't know. I do think Danielle would put up Janelle if she won HoH, but I'm not sure who would be her second nomination. Also, I do think the S6 know she would do this, but at this point, there are others that are just as dangerous.

If they nominate Chicken George again (which they have been batting around) then they are fools.

Sending George home would be a wasted HoH week, so I sincerely hope S6 doesn't do this.

James trying to save Diane is hilariously transparent. Janelle, Kaysar, and Howie realise that the only reason James wants to send Boogie home is because Diane is all for James. I wish someone would kick him in the throat.

[Stinger97]

James is saying that putting up Marcellas would be a terrific idea, because Marcellas is constantly undermining the S6 and their decisions. He talks too much to other HGs, telling them they should all attack the S6.

But, Diane is guilty of the exact same thing, James. She hates the S6, besides you. So, it's smart to send her ass back to her car. Dumbass.

After Janelle said that she wanted Diane gone, James said it was Janie's decision since it is her HoH. James then went on to say that, if he wins HoH, he will do what's best for him. James needs to stop threatening the rest of his alliance, or it'll be his ass going home.

Edited by Stinger97, Jul 28, 2006 @ 1:06 AM.

[DreamingTree]

Good Lord, my head is spinning listening to S6 strategize. I think putting up Diane and Boogie is a decent idea. It really doesn't matter which one goes because each of them are after S6. James wants Boogie out, the rest want Diane out...nominate them and let the houseguests decide. One of their adversaries will be out and move on.

[milhomie]

I'm so "wtf?" about James. James is gungho about going after Chilltown and accusing the others of being scared of them, WHEN HE PUT FUCKING CHICKEN GEORGE UP LAST WEEK with the intentions of evicting him.

I'm convinced the only reason James wants Diane to stay is because he wants Diane to get rid of Janelle for him. That's the same reason he was hesitant about getting rid of Jase. He wanted Jase to get rid of Janelle (or Kaysar). Now that's no longer an option and he wants Diane to stay cause it's his only firm hope of ridding himself of her. Plus, she's his Marcellus. Might go after them, but not him personally.

Edited by milhomie, Jul 28, 2006 @ 1:11 AM.

[annex]

James trying to save Diane is hilariously transparent. Janelle, Kaysar, and Howie realise that the only reason James wants to send Boogie home is because Diane is all for James. I wish someone would kick him in the throat.

At the same time, they forget that they need to make James feel included, and they really are failing that miserably. Howie wants CT up too, but he's being much more quiet about it.

I'm hopeful that Janelle does nominate Diane/Boogie, and then they vote Boogie out. I worry that we might lose Will if she nominates Will/Boogie.

[milhomie]

I think James meant that he would win HOH and put Boogie/Will up next week, whether they agreed with him or not. I don't know if that's a real threat against them.

I think he meant that he's getting rid of Marcellus. How he feels about Marcellus is how Janey feels about Diane. And if she gets rid of his safety net, he's getting rid of hers. I absolutely think that getting rid of Diane is the best move for Janelle. Same as Kaysar doing what was best for him and James (initally) doing what's best for him.

The thing with Janelle is that to keep herself safe she goes directly for who she things/knows is coming after her. Kaysar and James were all about making themselves less of a target.

Kaysar is trying. Janelle seems more defensive, and like James, she gets impatient when people don't agree with her.

Well the good thing is that if James isn't willing to vote with them, she's probably not gonna put Diane up. I mean, at least they're loyal in that way. Sometimes I just think James puts too many deals out that there's such a small pool of people to pick from that he freaks out when they mention anyone other the small pool of people he doesn't have deals with.

Edited by milhomie, Jul 28, 2006 @ 1:27 AM.

[milhomie]

Marcellas is literally the last person I would consider nominating if I were an S6er (other than James). Boogie, Will, Diane, Danielle, Erika and even Chicken George all seem more dangerous to me.

Agreed. I truly think that this early in the game, Marcellus cares too much about what America thinks of him to go against the 6 right now (except possibly James). If he was the first to move against them, he probably thinks America would hate him. Little does he know, they already do.

[Arista]

I'm shocked at Howie and Janelle actually negotiating with Will. I'm even more surprised that they aren't hip to his obvious game yet. I wish they would just nominate Chill Town.

Why is Janelle saying she doesn't want to even nominate Will as a pawn? Strategically, there's no way in hell she could win against him in the end. And he's asking to leave before sequester! She can't possibly enamored with McSchemey, can she?

[bear88]

Arista, one of the things to remember about Will is that, as the weeks go by and tedium sets in, he isn't a bad guy to have around. During Will's silly veto speech, people weren't angry or even puzzled. They were smiling. They thought he was funny.

Will is always attempting to entertain, and that's a valuable skill - even if his act doesn't always work. It's better than people who are crying or angry or throwing things. He isn't the same as in Season Two, in that he has incorporated his "Evict Me" twist into things and complains a lot more, but the attempt to amuse is still there.

I think Janelle believes she's onto him, and can get rid of him later - after more dangerous HoH threats are tossed. I think Will eliminated Howie from the HoH game in part because Howie is less vulnerable to his charms. It was also a way to go after Season 6 in a way that didn't feel like a frontal assault.

[Bobbalouie78]

According to Arista in LV:Highlights, Will was talking about splitting the money, and how that has supposedly happened on the RR/RW challenge shows. I know that Survivor has as part of their contract with contestant a clause saying they can't share the money... but does BB? and can someone with a legal bent guess what consequences would befall them if there was such a clause and they broke it? Always good to learn something from watching these shows, and so far for BB7, I want to forget everything I've learned.

[eholder]

According to Arista in LV:Highlights, Will was talking about splitting the money, and how that has supposedly happened on the RR/RW challenge shows. I know that Survivor has as part of their contract with contestant a clause saying they can't share the money... but does BB? and can someone with a legal bent guess what consequences would befall them if there was such a clause and they broke it? Always good to learn something from watching these shows, and so far for BB7, I want to forget everything I've learned.

It's against the rules on BB too. Last year the Friendship were trying to get a pair to the end (where the total prize would be $1.25 mill) and then split the money. BB had to remind them they can't share - but they could buy each other "gifts" which is what they agreed to if one of them one. Not sure if that happened though.

[MarchingOcelot]

I think we're all forgetting to mention a very key point here:

The HoH room is all pink.

Gross.

[Melina Detroit]

Question: I don't get the Live Feeds, but read the highlights here every day. Can anyone tell me, is Janelle aware of the horrible things Mike and Jase have said about her? Watching the show this week, there has been literally no mention of any of that, but it's really bothering me. Have either of them ever said any of this stuff to her face? (Sometimes I feel like I'm watching two entirely differenet shows - the TV BB, and the Live Feed BB. Well, the plots are similar, but the characters vary considerably.)

[Gwendy]

Question: I don't get the Live Feeds, but read the highlights here every day. Can anyone tell me, is Janelle aware of the horrible things Mike and Jase have said about her?

I think she's aware they said things about her, but not the extent of it. Honestly, when all's said and done, I don't think she'll care. She seems to let stuff like that roll off her back.

I haven't seen this in any of the live feed updates I read: when Janey changed her mind about Diane and decided not to put her up, did Kaysar fight her on it at all or did he go along right away? I think he's smart not to push things too far to go his own way within his group but I can't tell from the updates if that's how it went down.

And, yeah, that room is a monstrosity.

[jhunter]

I haven't seen this in any of the live feed updates I read: when Janey changed her mind about Diane and decided not to put her up, did Kaysar fight her on it at all or did he go along right away? I think he's smart not to push things too far to go his own way within his group but I can't tell from the updates if that's how it went down.

No fight. I think he realized that Diane was a bad move before they discussed it again, so when Janelle brought it up, he was already on the same page. They realized that getting at least one member of CT out of the house was more important than risking an insurrection at the hands of the floaters. They spoke of it as a war on the horizon that they weren't ready to start yet.

[Miss Alli]

I don't know how seriously Janelle could take shit talk about herself when she sits around happily yelling "Fingerbang Maggie!" Taking offense at... practically anything anyone said about her would be absurdly hypocritical at this point. She's been bitchy enough herself that she's pretty much stuck with letting things roll off her.

[Mylittlelamb64]

Diane really doesn't do anything in the house.

Christ crumbled bacon, how can they not see that the biggest threat (next to sneaky snake Dani) is ERIKA?! This girl never offers her thoughts, she blends in like wallpaper and hell, didn't James call her out the other day about being a floater? If Jedi Janey were smart, she'd nom Erika/Boogie with Dani taking the place of whoever won POV.

I think when Howie wins HOH, he's going to be the one that will nom CT.

[katesus7]

It's going to get very interesting once all of the easy targets that all four S6 people can agree on are gone. Janelle and James are going to get more and more testy with each other about protecting Marcelles and Danielle. Howie might want to protect CG, to have someone in his corner, and Kaysar might feel the same about Erika, although that one I'm not sure about.

Not to mention what happens if a floater wins HOH. I'm pretty sure they won't be 'all for one and one for all' if that happens. James I know will "throw them under the bus", and I think that would be it for him and the rest of the alliance. Hell, James might even be hoping for that at this point. He's so very bitter over not getting to do whatever he wanted as HOH, and even more bitter that Janelle isn't necessarily going to do whatever he wants now that she's HOH. I think James likes to think of himself as a major force in the game, who actively makes things happen, so I can see him start trying way too hard because he thinks he hasn't done that yet.