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[caroline2]

A thread for comparing and contrasting the seasons.

This has come up in a few episode threads, but what really creeps me out about the third season is how unequipped these people seem to be able to afford the weddings they're having. The couples on the second season weren't very well-off, but the weddings were more modest; the editors played up money drama, but I don't remember the weddings being anything like the $75,000 boondoogles we're seeing this season. And in season one, the couples (or at least, their parents) were much wealthier, so you could giggle about them spending $3000 on a terrible dress without feeling vaguely sick that they'd be spending the next two decades paying off the credit card bill on the terrible dress.

What passed for "money troubles" on season 1 were of a much different scale. For example, there was conflict between Vanessa and her husband -- he'd rather buy a house than pay for a huge wedding, she wanted (and got) more diamonds -- but you still could tell they'd probably be fine. They both worked high-paying jobs, and they were young and had time to recover from spending all that money on a day and still get a house, retire comfortably, etc.

It's not the "Bridezilla" meanness, but the fiscal irresponsibility that leaves me ready to turn it off halfway through the episode.

(Should the title have been "First Wives' Club"? I wavered forever on that.)

Edited by caroline2, Jul 11, 2006 @ 11:55 AM.

[talkstoomuch]

This is a phrase I thought I'd never think, much less write, but: the Fox production was better. The host was snarkier and much more spot on with his commentary. You got to see more of the participants' personalities and conflicts. The drama played up without fakeouts and overhype. Even the credits were better.

[RockyMountain]

I think what leaves me feeling uncomfortable with Season 3 v. Season 1 is that I had the feeling that most of the people in Season one were perfetly normal (if not wealthy) and reasonably sane people who lost it in the midst of wedding planning.

Bridezillas to me are perfectly normal people whose weddings spiral out of control, then go on the honeymoon and return to a normal life. That was Season 1. Season 3 feels like weddings of the mentally unstable.

No doubt about it - Karen and Vanessa and Amy were all over the top in wedding planning, but they knew it.

Regina and Marsha are just plain mean.

[tinabee]

Julia ( who could forget her!) was a working-class woman, and Alan also worked for a living. I think he was a drug abuse counselor, and she sold cosmetics at a department store, along with some other job that she had on top of it. Their wedding easily looked like it topped $50k. (Remember when Alan threw the credit card down at the jeweler's?) And, the poor guy looked as if he HATED the whole experience. Like he would have rather been at a tractor pull with a spilled over Porta-Potty within smelling distance, and mud all over his face. A symbol of her excessive spending was the antique car limo that honked a horn playing "Here Comes The Bride." I mean, really....only a real attention whore would do something like that.

WE has basically taken a very well-done documentary-quality production and just bastardized it. There is much to be said about the original formula. Heck....I can recall just about all of the names of the brides from the first season with no problem (Karen, Brooke, Vanessa, Amy, Kathleen, Miho, Tricia, Julia, Cynthia and Michelle). Who were the ones from the second season....Antonella, Gretchen, Noelle, Adriana,Thuy, Magdalena, Korliss, Patricia, and I don't remember who else?? Now, the only two standouts from Season 3 are Regina and Marsha...not because they have any couth, mind you...but because they are obnoxizoids. If nothing else, the women from Season 1 may have been bridezillas, but over and above for the most part, they had WAY more class.

[caroline2]

Good call on Julia, although she seemed to be just an exception to the first season, whereas sacrificing one's financial future for a wedding seems to be the rule this year.

[lvmom]

I just got done watching the first disc from Season 1, and I can't imagine the formula has been improved by people knowing that they are being filmed in a Bridezilla capacity. They all seemed so proud of their elegant and unusual affair in Season 1. It seems like a better formula.

Edited by lvmom, Jul 17, 2006 @ 10:08 AM.

[ChocolateCherry]

I just got done watching the first disc from Season 1

I gotta know; is the DVD worth it? Are there any extras? Any commentaries? Anything that would push someone, like me, over the edge towards purchasing it?

[lvmom]

I tend to avoid extras, so I am not sure there were any,but if you are a fan, its worth rewatching. These brides were defintely one of a kind! I can let you know when Netflix sends me disc 2-disc 1 has already been mailed back.

[MissMoneyBags]

Julia just made me so, so, so sad. I guess if I were participating in her wedding I might want to strangle her, but as a television viewer, I dunno. She was just so unguarded in her excitement. I think she was the only Bridezilla I actually felt bad about watching (up until the Marchie debacle in S3).

Karen annoyed the living piss out of me for 90% of her time on the air, but I bizarrely found myself mellowing on her as time went by. Again, I'd probably strangle her if I had to be in her wedding, but she seems like under non-wedding circumstances she might possibly be a funny person to sit around and snark with. Also, I remember being a little taken aback when she made that remark about how "you expect to look like Cindy Crawford on your wedding day, but I guess you just work with what you've got." And I was like, ouch!

Joe and Miho, though. The hate for them will always be fresh. And I will never forget the wedding planners laughing in Joe's face when he suggested the dinner bell. "What is this, 'The Cows Come Home'?"

Edited by MissMoneyBags, Jul 18, 2006 @ 9:46 AM.

[ChocolateCherry]

I can let you know when Netflix sends me disc 2-disc 1 has already been mailed back

I totally forgot about my Netflix. Bring on the fuzzy, mint green ottomans and the tissue paper dress, Cynthia forever!

[librarygurl]

Netflix delievered my copy of Season 1, disk 1 today and I got through 3 episodes

One thing I like about this season is that they actually talk to the planners and other vendors about what makes a bridezilla rather than why their bride is a bridezilla. The reason this season is much better than 2 & 3 is because the brides did not know how this was going to turn out. I don't know if the producers always intended to make a show about Bridezillas or if it just happened when they looked at the footage and spoke to vendors. I am inclined to feel like it just happened after watching the footage. One thing that supports this is how non-'zillas were not given much more than 1/2 of one episode. The less of a 'zilla, the less time on the show.

I also agree with the opinions of this narrator- he's sassy and snarky. Also, he doesn't over-repeat information. Other things I liked: the lack of the 'zilla build-up and the almost scripted interviews with the couples.

Also, one planner said something telling: they become obsessed with details that don't matter. Another time the narrator said something about the average cost of the wedding, Brook's wedding - or rather her clam bake. He commented that her clam bake cost $24,000 and that was 50% or 2xs as much as the average wedding. Either way, what we are seeing this season just appears to be a waste of money in some cases.

[ChgoRed]

Another time the narrator said something about the average cost of the wedding, Brook's wedding - or rather her clam bake.

I remember that one—where she married her dad's coworker. Eeeww.

The clam bake was actually the night before the wedding, like the rehearsal dinner. So, $24K for something that was not even the wedding itself, just the prelim.

That was also the one with ze cinematographer from Frahnce. My favorite part is where he's bitching about the wedding planner, while in the background you can see he's missing the bride & groom's entrance to the reception. Love that.

[lvmom]

On Season two and the trainwreck that is Adriana. What a hoot-this child is so snarky and doesn't seem to realize she is one to be snarked on.

[librarygurl]

On Season two and the trainwreck that is Adriana. What a hoot-this child is so snarky and doesn't seem to realize she is one to be snarked on.

I think she was the one that made the miss the original narrator the most. He would have had a field day with her.

I remember that one—where she married her dad's coworker. Eeeww.

Yea, at the clam bake there was an interesting moment when they were walking on the beach and she got this look on her face that said "holy shit, what have I done?" I wondered why suck a pretty girl would agree to such a horrible arranged marriage. Then I wondered if she was a raving lifezilla.
What was most interesting about Brook was that they followed her planner, not Brook herself.

I just watched disk 2 of season 1. I should get season 2 from Netflix next week.

I realized that I never saw all of season 1, but there was nothing special to mention here. I did want to say that don't expect extras if you rent the DVDs for season 1- there were none really. There were just three previews of three WE shows- one being on this seasons Bridezillas. This was interesting since season three was half over by the time it was released. I am glad I am getting to see all of the previous seasons, but I am irritated there were no extras.

[tinabee]

And, now....for the first time......the Best and Worst Of Season 1!


Worst Bridezilla:
Julia. Yes, she really did wear horns, and say "Listen! Listen!!" And, everybody hates her as much as she loves herself. Even Alan can't stop rolling his eyes in disgust at her presence.

Most Showy Display of Excess:
Brooke and the $25k clambake. The least she could have done is look happy to be there, and at least watch out for party crashers. Does anybody even remember if she ate anything, or was she just too nauseous at the prospect of marrying Charlie?


Daddy's Little Girl Award:
This one goes to Amy. Throughout all of the planning, not one word was spoken about the expense, because Nancy Montserrat did mention that her Father is paying for everything. With all of that rehearsing the speech for her introduction, both herself and her Mother must have browbeat the poor, dear sweet man into submission.

Most Obvious Display of Greed:
Vanessa. As if a $30k wedding set wasn't enough.....she had to fall in lust with the $8k necklace. Since it is obvious Dan is paying for everything, why not just throw that little bauble in, and cry the world's fakest tears in front of everyone while it is presented to her in front of friends and family?

Worst Groomonster:
Erez. Handsome as all get-out, but brooding, dark and moody. He makes Mr. Darcy from Pride and Prejudice look light-hearted and sunny in disposition by comparison. Quite frankly, the guy scares me.

Least Affectionate Couple:
Joe and Miho. She probably wears burlap and barbed wire around the vital parts to bed each evening, to paraphrase Bill Cosby. On watching the both of them, it is easy to see that Joe is far more enthusiastic about this union. So obvious to tell that Miho is just cooling her heels so that she can get her citizenship, and, the hell out of there.

Most Likely to be a Porn Star:
Michelle. Between playing with her chest, and flashing her boobs at her ex, she is just waiting for the right moment to be an exhibitionist.

Worst Bridesmaid:
Kathleen. Her pregnant bridesmaid was not only balking at walking down the staircase, but just needed to be forcibly pushed down them a-la Scarlett O'Hara. And, FYI, nobody I know of has died from being subjected to one single waft of the aroma of second-hand smoke. Unless they were on a ventilator, or severely allergic.

Most Paranoid:
Kathleen. Remember when she said that a woman's voice had answered the phone in her fiance's hotel room? Please...if she doesn't trust the guy completely, why marry him? Thank goodness that the lady turned out to be his sister, I do believe, but letting an imagination run away with her is a bad, bad thing.

Most Trendy:
Tricia. Between the "edgy" ponytail, the hairstylist, the loft location, the dress, and the minutest details, the only thing classic about the wedding was the Tiffany blue boxes as well as the church. And the photos in the meat-packing district just spoke volumes about how she tried too hard. Who wants wedding photos with dried blood and graffiti in the backgound? Not I!! The coolest thing about her wedding was her family.

Biggest Idiot:
Emmet. Between the sexist pig comments,the $5k trip to Vegas, hanging out with his buddies to trash women even further, and the beer drinking before the wedding, all of us know he can't be serious. (To paraphrase Phenobarbara->)Seriously steeped in frat-boy behavior, but not at all serious about acting like a grown-up.

Most Fussy:
Karen. She poked, prodded, pulled, and made faces at her wedding gown. She drove the designer and the fitter to the brink of insanity. I loved it when Kathy smacked her hand and said, "You analyze your boobs too much." She just analyzed EVERYTHING too much. Emmet's behavior only added fuel to the fire, so he can easily take 75% of the blame.

Best Wedding Planner:
A tie. The vote goes to both Kate and Stacy. Kate did a great job of making sure that everything was perfect, and wasn't afraid to go postal on people if they didn't do as told. Stacy put up with Julia's demanding behavior with a positive attitude, a smile, and the patience of a saint.

Most Supportive Mother:
Cynthia's Mom. I really liked her. She was very sweet and calming, especially during the dress debacle, and she genuinely cared deeply about her daugher.

Worst Wedding:
Brooke and Charlie. Between the very high temperatures, the lack of happiness on the part of the bride, and the moody French videographer, along with the issues with the cake, all of that money spent on the wedding left me unimpressed. Again...do Brooke and Charlie really love each other, or does that guy look like George Clooney when he stands on his wallet?

Most Over-The-Top Wedding:
Julia and Alan. Only A-list celebs hire a choir to sing at their wedding, and the limo honking "Here Comes the Bride" is just a little bit too much. The dress was excessive, and the reception site looked like artifical-flower, white trellis , tacky plastic swan, 80's crap.

Most Inconsiderate:
Amy. When the car was getting ready to drive away to the reception, she didn't care whether or not her husband was comfortable. All she cared about was whether or not her makeup looked OK. And, she forcibly shut him completely out of the wedding plans altogether. Ooo, I couldn't stand her!!

Most Likely to Melt Down:
Cynthia. It was obvoius she was under a lot of stress, and I am so surprised that she didn't lock herself in her room and just sob uncontollably. In the end, the only tears that were shed were over her dress. I think the alcohol consumed at her bachelorette party helped somewhat, although I could not imagine allowing myself to be hung over on my wedding day.


And, finally:

Most Pretentious:
Joe. Wow, was he ever a stickler for doing his best to try and impress his in-laws. Everything had to be some kind of "brand name". It didn't hide the fact that he is a total dork, and his bride hates his guts. The Mother and Father of the bride didn't even crack a smile, for pity's sake. Maybe it had something to do with those God-awful topiaries at the entrance? If my first sight of my daughter's wedding was the grass-covered ass end of a moose, I would not have high hopes for my evening, either.


So, there you have it...the Best and Worst of Season 1!

Edited by tinabee, Jul 23, 2006 @ 7:55 PM.

[tinabee]

To continue.......The Best and Worst of Season 2!!


Most Likely to Get Divorced:
Adriana. But, alas.....I have spoken FAR too late!!

Most Annoying Family:
Antonella. Her brothers and sisters were arguing over the seating chart at the reception, and her older brother was just a Class 1 Grade A schmuck. No wonder she was losing her hair and going crazy. At least a couple of her sisters were there to help out when her dress had a tear. Even after the wedding, her older brother was still a schmuck.

Worst Bridezilla:
Noelle. Self-centered, moody, and it was all about "me-me-me". I especially hated it when she was bragging about her ex-boyfriends in front of her fiance ON CAMERA!! Who effing cares?? They probably got a load of her in that spaghetti-strapped top, and ran the other way. And, being an hour late to her own wedding just added to my hatred for her.

Most Likely to go on a Power Trip:
Magdalena. The infamous comment, "I will have your ass...I wil have your job.....tomorrow!" just showed how much of a bulldozer she could be. Somehow, I'm just not that scared of her. Maybe it's because she can be easily snapped in two like a twig. Somebody, please.....throw that girl a sandwich! And, not to be forgotten, "the rule of the day is do NOT ask Magdalena questions!" Yeesh!!

Biggest Idiot:
Magdalena's fiance, Justin. The only reason he is marrying Magdalena is because she is "hot". And, he was thrilled to see that all of the bridesmaids were "hot". He was warned that his bachelor party would come back to haunt him, and would any of us be surprised if we found out later he really DID behave in a way he shouldn't have? As far as all of the grooms go, he was the least concerned or interested in getting hitched. Justin was a tool from the word go.

Worst Father of the Bride Behavior:
Gretchen. Her dad had this annoying "SHH!" thing that he kept doing to deliberately aggravate her. He was getting his jollies out of behaving like an immature, obnoxious 14-year old. And, it worked. He aggravated an annoyed everyone on national TV.


Best Mother of the Bride Behavior:
Patricia's Mom. I just LOVED her!! She finally told her daughter, " If you think I'm gonna kiss your butt, I ain't doin' it!" I'm unsure how much good it did, but chalk one up for a MOB that won't take any crap.

Most Controlling:
Jada. Honestly, planning a wedding can be as stressful or as fun as you make it. Clearly, she let the stress get to her by being a micromanager. For a moment there, I thought that Julius would get aggravated enough to tell her to just forget the whole thing. The worst part was not letting the event coordinators do their job without interference. No matter what, it still would have looked like the less-than-classy New Orlean's themed party that it was. Those cardboard-y looking props still stand out in my mind when I think of her wedding.

Least Mature:
Adriana. Between her youth, lack of experience, potty mouth, and babyish crying, I half expected her to walk down the aisle with diapers and a pacifier.

Most Obvious Display of Greed:
Magdalena. In order to finance the wedding of her dreams to the biggest aforementioned tool of a groom I have ever seen, the house gets re-mortaged. Her wedding did end up being a nice bash, but the Mariachi band was waiting for payment. And, as a bit of karma thrown in, she did end up getting a parking ticket at Nicole Miller.

Worst Wedding:
Noelle. Maybe it's just me, but her wedding came across as thrown-together. She was upset that the priest at her church didn't go through the entire ceremony, but, goodness......she was over an hour late, for crying out loud!! I wonder if the house ever got cleaned up in time for the reception. Her wedding planner didn't come across as very confident.

Worst Group of Bridesmaids:
Jada. Between the anal-retentive, my-you-know-what-doesn't-stink bridesmaid, and the full-figured gal that couldn't lay off the sauce, they both were more of a hindrance than a help. Maybe that explains the group punisment of wearing those awful pistachio-colored shiny bridesmaid's gowns that made all of them look 15 pounds heavier.

Most Overextended:
Gretchen. I can't imagine for the life of me, remodeling the inside of a house, and having family to stay over while planning your wedding at the same time. And, then dealing with a Father's immature behavior on top of it all. Not only that, but planning a pre-wedding party at the house, as well. Yes, I do think that it would be a perfect recipe for either a nasty shoutfest, or a meltdown.

Most Likely to be a Porn Star:
Noelle. Well, at least she wishes. I can't believe that she wore a fringy, low-cut top in public when, clearly, certain pieces and parts of her had gone South earlier on. There is such a thing a dressing sexy, and trying entirely too hard to be that way. In this case the old saying "Less is more." applies.

Worst Wedding Planner:
Patricia. Her wedding planner was completely useless. She was a total and complete waste of oxygen. Patricia and her Mom ended up doing most of the shopping and the work, anyway. The wedding planner didn't even help out very much with co-ordinating the rehearsal. Sometimes, a job well done is a job you have to do on your own.

Best Bachelorette Party:
Antonella. I had to admit, she had a good one. Between the bridal store drama, dealing with family members, and aggravation with her fiance Michael, she deserved to let loose a little bit. I thought that renting a schoolbus was a cute idea. And, falling down on the dancefloor?
You can get away with that type of behavior when you are as young as she is. More power to her!


So, there it is, the Best and Worst of Season 2!

Edited by tinabee, Jul 23, 2006 @ 7:51 PM.

[librarygurl]

Best Bachelorette Party:
Antonella. I had to admit, she had a good one. Between the bridal store drama, dealing with family members, and aggravation with her fiance Michael, she deserved to let loose a little bit. I thought that renting a schoolbus was a cute idea. And, falling down on the dancefloor?

So, I watched the additional scenes for Season 2 (on disk 2) and they had an extended cut of the party- actually of the stripper going around and humping all the ladies. It looked like it was fun, but it seems that when they left the hotel two of her friends got arrested.

Also in the additional scenes:
1- Unknown bride #1 who was told she had to wash her dress before the seemstress could do alterations. So, she takes it to the laundrymat and washes it there. Yep- she put her wedding gown in the washing machine. She explains the steps she went through and she laid it out to dry rather than sticking it in the dryer as well. She tried it on at the end of her clip and she is shocked to see that everything is still in place, the dirt is gone except a bit on the inside (which she didn't care about since nobody would see the inside) and she said that it smelled now.

2- Unknown bride #2 whose fiance is learning to dance with a former dirty dancer. Meanwhile Bride and MOB discuss MOB's dress and the empir (sic) waist. Its a very nice dress and then MOB she us her undergarmets for the dress so she looks nice in the dress. Then Bride and MOB discussed why they sent the announcement to some NYC paper and the issue of sending a photo with the announcement even though they didn't know if they should. The Bride was against sending the photo and didn't seem to keen on having sent the annoucement.

3- Adriana who cries more about her dress not being ready and gives us an idea of what she has left to do in 8 days. The only interesting thing, and I wouldn't really call it interesting, is that she goes on and on about how she hopes it all goes well on the wedding day like a school of fish or a burger and bun together. I had to giggle knowing what would happen.

[Reddeyze]

Worst Father of the Bride Behavior:
Gretchen. Her dad had this annoying "SHH!" thing that he kept doing to deliberately aggravate her. He was getting his jollies out of behaving like an immature, obnoxious 14-year old. And, it worked. He aggravated an annoyed everyone on national TV.

Agreed. That. Drove. Me. Nuts. I can't imagine how Gretchen felt. He was such a tool.

[Anthurium]

Hi, I'm a first time poster but long time lurker on this great site.

tinabee, I loved your hilarious comments on Bridezilla season one and agree with everything you had to say. I bought the DVD and have watched it more times than I can count. One thing really bothers me. I can't figure out how Brooke and Charlie's "clambake on the beach" could have cost $25K. I mean, how is that possible? Did they rent the whole beach or what? A quarter of a million dollars was spent on that wedding and did you see all the guests fanning themselves during the ceremony? They looked totally miserable. I felt hot just looking at them.

[kathrynp]

I also just finished watching S1 on dvd. I only caught a couple of the episodes on tv when they aired.

tinabee, very well done!

Alan (Julia) looked royally ticked off from start to finish. Even during the first dance - yikes!

I found myself really liking Cynthia. She was not a bridezilla (IMO) in the least! The only real problem she had was with the dresses but even then she was trying to be nice, she sort of lost it with her mother outside but I think she was totally justified. It's a lot of work planning a wedding (not that I would know) and I think that was her breaking point. And who wouldn't be upset if when trying on "the dress" it just isn't what you wanted.

Like others said, Karen kind of grew on me. I actually found her to be kind of funny - she is very bossy but I never found her to be out of line. She might have bossed Emmet around a little too much but he let her. Seems they have that kind of relationship(?) Or perhaps she was showing off for the cameras.

Now onto the dislikes - Joe/Miho. Just, well, everything. Her bitchface, his monkey-face (Miho's words, not mine). Could it have been any more obvious that every time they were speaking to the cameras or to a friend that they were trying to convince themselves that this was what they wanted?? And their planner - ugh! Love the look her husband gave her when she repirmanded him for not being at his post (the MOOSE).

Vanessa and the necklace...what a whiny little brat! She knew she was getting it because the jeweler was her FUTURE FIL! She knew if she whined enough that she would get her way. She whined her way into getting an expensive wedding over a house, now the necklace. My BF couldn't believe she even asked him to buy it for her, and he practically threw something at the tv when Dan gave it to her.

S1 was definitely a better format than 2/3. The announcer is great - every time Mindy speaks I get that nails-on-chalkboard feeling in my spine. And even better there's no briiiiiiiiidezilla! climb-up or stupid music. Plus the editing was much better (although it's hard to compare to the current season where I would hardly use the word "editing" to describe whatever the heck they are doing).

[tinabee]

Thanks. :)

[ChocolateCherry]

Miho and Joe were the strangest couple I have ever seen. I wonder if they ever, even to this day, have had sex.

They have a baby now. I think it was mentioned in the first few pages of the Meet Market.

I got the first disk of Season 1 from Netflix yesterday, It just makes me sad to remember just how good the show once was.

[tinabee]

A scarier thought is Brooke and Charlie doing the dirty. That's like glorified pedophilia going on right there.

[jade76]

Charlie was a friend of Brooke's father, so I guessed he was late 40s/early 50s.

Although they still look totally creepy together.

I agree

[Anthurium]

I'm just fascinated by Brooke and Charlie for some reason. Either Charlie or the narrator got Brooke's age wrong. I think she looks about 26, but I can't tell with Charlie. He sort of has a babyish face, but his hair and body look like an old man. At any rate, I think he looks older than Brooke's father - creepy! I also loved all the nutty supporting characters - the French videographer telling Kate's assistant, "You are very stupid." And did anyone catch that weird guy who was doing Brooke's hair right before the ceremony? I thought I heard him say to Kate something like, "What is this? The Gestapo?" Did I hear that right? By the way, I thought Brooke's hair looked awful at the reception. Like the humidity had destroyed her hairdo.

Joe and Miho were another interesting, but very odd couple that I couldn't figure out. Miho looked like she wanted to run for the hills. Maybe she's desperately trying to get away from someone or something in Japan. I've also heard they have a baby. Maybe he/she is adopted. I mean, Miho wouldn't even let Joe get anywhere near her during their wedding!

[spaceprostitute]

Re: Charlie and Brooke

I got the first disc of season one from Netflix this week and was just watching that episode last night. I think I spent entirely too much time analyzing it to figure out the age thing. The narrarator said she was 27 at the time of the taping. And Charlie is a former colleague of her father's, which doesn't necessarily put them around the same age (so Charlie's probably at a mid-point agewise between Brooke and her father, it's not like Charlie and her father were old college buddies and the same age). And I think Charlie referenced being in his early to mid-thirties when he first met Brooke, so the guess of 39 or so is probably a good one. I think the confusing part was just that it sounded like Charlie was going to tell the story of how they met, and so he started off with "We met when..." and then kind of interrupted himself with the "ironic twist" of meeting her when she was 6 or 7, and so when he said that was 15 to 16 years earlier, I think he was still in that mode of referencing it from the story he meant to start about when he was then reintroduced to her and started dating again, which was probably when she was 21 or 22. He's probably just a guy who aged much faster look-wise than his age really dictates. I'm a-ok with age differences though, but that doesn't make this one any less creepy considering the physical resemblence Charlie has to her father.


That said, I miss the first season. I remember watching all of the Bridezilla marathons WE had and watching the first season at least three or four times. I liked watching the little fantasyland of Manhattan weddings and while it's far from normal for me, it was okay because they weren't women mortgaging their homes to pay for these atrocities. These were, for the most part, people who weren't hurting for cash and could afford the lavish, picky choices they were making. And none of them were that horrible. Just picky, and probably rightfully so for the amount of money involved. The second season, I liked, though didn't care for some of them (*ahem* Adriana), but Gretchen and Antonella were totally people that I would hang out with and may have been a bit bitchy at times, but they paid for things themselves and I saw them take a lot of care into accommodating their families and guests and didn't have that "My day, my wedding, I'm the bride so F* you attitude". But this third season. It's not even Bridezillas. Those are supposed to be relatively normal people who turn Bridezilla in the face of stress. These are truly off-balance, under-medicated, shrill, unhappy people that aren't even fun to watch that appear to start off that way. Ugh.