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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 9:20 PM

But ass in that context means donkey. I mean they may well have been getting something by the censors but it at least has a logical explanation. I doubt Maud or the Three Stooges could say "kick her ass" or anything that was an obvious reference. It is like the Simpson's episode where Bart kept saying bitch in reference to a female dog and Marge was frustrated but couldn't say anything.

Edited by Cherith, Mar 14, 2012 @ 9:23 PM.


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Posted Mar 14, 2012 @ 11:36 PM

SyFy has shown bare butts in a couple of shows lately. First, they let a couple of butt cracks slip through on Face Off's annual naked model body painting challenge, and then they're showing the Canadian import Lost Girl uncut late at night with some relatively explicit sex scenes.

Edited by selkie, Mar 14, 2012 @ 11:36 PM.


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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 7:33 AM

But ass in that context means donkey.


The slang version of "ass" didn't always mean that portion of a person's anatomy that needs kicking. An ass was a human being who acted like a donkey. (Which is insulting to donkeys, but that never seems to bother anyone.) Calling a person an ass was impolite and blunt, but not even remotely close to obscene. I'm sure that that is the meaning of ass that the Stooges had in mind.

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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 12:31 PM

Have there been any shots of bare butts on broadcast TV since NYPD Blue?

It was mentioned on a previous page about the naked butts on "American Horror Story."

While traveling in Central America, I discovered there are over-the-air free tv stations airing those telephone sex line infomercials with soft-core porn running in the background, and this was between 9-11 pm. I was quite surprised to say the least,.

The Latin countries consider that acceptable and not something to gasp at. I remember watching some programming on HBO where they feature television programming from other parts of the country and how the Latin countries and some of the European countries feature programming and commercials where some nudity and soft porn is quite the norm.

Edited by Shortcake2001, Mar 15, 2012 @ 12:37 PM.


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Posted Mar 15, 2012 @ 12:52 PM

Have there been any shots of bare butts on broadcast TV since NYPD Blue?

It was mentioned on a previous page about the naked butts on "American Horror Story."


I was thinking of over the air broadcasts (which are regulated by the FCC), not cable. It seems to me that NYPD Blue's use of profanity and nudity pushed the limits to a point that we haven't seen since on ABC/NBC/CBS.

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Posted Mar 17, 2012 @ 6:48 PM

I saw an episode of Criminal Minds where the characters said they would not honor a rifle armed serial killer with the term "sniper", they were something like long ranged killers. This in an era where snipers are military superstars, just below the SEAL and Special Forces level of hero characters having been one before they joined the cops. Then I am watching the old post Vietnam era SWAT where the bad guys were the "snipers" and TJ, the SWAT sniper was the "long rifle"

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Posted Mar 25, 2012 @ 11:33 PM

I was thinking of over the air broadcasts (which are regulated by the FCC), not cable. It seems to me that NYPD Blue's use of profanity and nudity pushed the limits to a point that we haven't seen since on ABC/NBC/CBS.

To me, it's not the amount of nudity but how invasive the intimacy that entails, even if a scene is barely hinted like on American Horror Story or Game of Thrones.

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Posted Mar 26, 2012 @ 9:52 PM

That's the point: I don't think it matters as of late, cable or network, the sex scenes are just as explicit.

Even without frontal nudity.

I haven't seen Smash but the network dramas I watch are not as explicit as cable. The most racy scenes are still usually more suggestive than explicit.

I think it depends on the show, True Blood's most explict scenes haven't been exactly about sex but rather the moment of intimacy that follows, Game of Thrones sex scenes, on the other hand, seem to contrast the devoted marital dynamic of the Targaryens and Starks to the lack of loyalty among the Baratheons & Lanisters.

The most explicit sex scenes on network shows from Smash to Nip/Tuck seemed to be reserved for lovers and boyfriends/girlfriends. Unless it was a character driven show like Lost, sex practically disappeared as a component of the marital dynamic.

Edited by zomb, Mar 26, 2012 @ 9:58 PM.


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Posted Mar 26, 2012 @ 9:54 PM

I never saw NYPD Blue, but a couple of the sex scenes in SMASH have surprised me with their explicitness. They would be tame for HBO or Showtime, of course; but I hadn't thought prime time network TV had gotten to that level.

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Posted Mar 26, 2012 @ 10:50 PM

As I remember NYPD Blue the scenes were not more sexually stimulating, in that definition of explicitness, you just saw the cheeks and crack of his backside when the man stood up

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Posted Mar 27, 2012 @ 9:57 AM

Frankly, I never saw it so I don't know which context that might have been (marital otherwise) but, up to this day, the NYPD Blue scene counts as an example of male nudity on modern TV as far as I can tell.

Edited by zomb, Mar 27, 2012 @ 9:59 AM.


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Posted Apr 7, 2012 @ 12:20 AM

The reverse to early TV/movies with men about to spanked their wives was when the wives got mad at their husbands they would grab a cast-iron skillet like they were about to hit them with it


I saw an episode of I Love Lucy where Ricky turned Lucy over his knee like a naughty child and spanked her. They were both laughing in the scene, but it was just ridiculous. You'd never see that today without a heck of a lot of compaints.

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Posted Apr 7, 2012 @ 9:07 PM

I think the spousal dynamics on TV have completely changed over the course of the years; from a stagnant relationship with no room for romance, it grew to disclose the many intricacies of an intimate dynamic, not only on a sexual level but a psychological one as well as an emotional one.

Partners aren't "dead" just because they are married, they aren't played just for laughs either, marriage has become a character study about people forced to live in close quarters together, characters who have their own code, their own secrets and their own divided loyalties, regardless if they are actually married or not.

Edited by grimm2, Apr 7, 2012 @ 9:11 PM.