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[skillzdatkillz]

There's too little to complain about Scrubs, however, there's this little one I thought of right now: JD's chick problems.

Though JD has been lucky up to date with all of the good lookin' girls he's hooked up with -- the problem resides that he's not able to remain consistent with any of them. The worst was JD and Elliot, they could not be a couple but interestingly can be very good at being platonic friends. I think Kylie and maybe Julie were closest to JD's personality.

But whether the girls were similar to him or not isn't the problem, he's the one that somehow loses them. I just like to see him be with someone that lasts for a while.

That being said, it's still fun seeing single JD going around still doing goofy single guy things -- that's what makes this show amusing.

[roelbesters]

I recently rewatched season 1 and there were a couple of continuity errors. Firstly, when JD adds Elliot to his list of women he slept with, he says he was stuck on 4 since med school, yet earlier in the season he sleeps with Jordan. Also, in the season finale they don't know what Mr. Bober looks like, while it's the patient who early in the season can only say the word 'Pickles'.

Nevertheless, awesome season.

[Doona]

I find Dr. Cox's rants and mannerisms get a bit grating after extensive rewatching. But since I love them when I first see them, and it is a rare comedy that the majority of which can stand up to repeated viewings so it doesn't really affect my overall Scrubs love.

[arc]

Also, in the season finale they don't know what Mr. Bober looks like, while it's the patient who early in the season can only say the word 'Pickles'.

I don't think it's quite fair to "chronic patients"* count those as continuity flaws. The patient who Elliot gave lipstick to came back later as the nanny for Cox and Jordan, but I don't think that was supposed to be the same role.

* I wish we had a clever term like the L&O fans have for their actors who turn up in multiple roles: "repeat offenders".

[Aragorn]

Also, in the season finale they don't know what Mr. Bober looks like, while it's the patient who early in the season can only say the word 'Pickles'.

The season one finale was actually Mr. Bober's first appearance on the show; the "pickles" episode was in season three ("My Brother, Where Art Thou?").

[roelbesters]

Ah, thanks for clearing that up, Aragorn. I knew I saw him before. Maybe I confused him with the one older man in the first episode that complained movies had too many special effects nowadays.

[VersesBatman]

I find JD's mugging a bit grating since before his comedic timing was more subtle.

[Roark13579]

That seems to be a common opinion, VersesBatman, that the earlier comedy was better for being subtler. The actors don't tend to agree, though. Here's something I posted from a newspaper story back when we just had a single-thread forum. This was printed at the beginning of the fifth season.

Braff feels the delay may have helped the show creatively.

"Bill just brought it to the next level," he says. "If anything good comes out of being dissed by NBC in the fall, it'll be the fact that Bill went even further with the scripts. They're even more adventurous; they're even funnier; they're even more broad at times; they're even more random and crazy."

John C. McGinley, who plays the acerbic Dr. Cox, agrees, saying, "(The writers) came back loaded for bear. After four years, it just got this huge injection of energy. They really refocused. The writers are located over in the psychiatric ward, which is kind of ironic. What Billy's putting down on paper for me this year is unbelievable."

I'd argue that more broad, random, and crazy doesn't necessarily equal "funnier," and I tend to like pretty off-the-wall stuff. Not that I'm saying the newer episodes are bad, by any means; it's still one of the best things on television. But I've been rewatching the first three seasons lately, and some of those episodes are just perfection. The pilot is a thing of beauty, and how many shows have a great pilot?

[skillzdatkillz]

I completely agree with your points Roark. I even recall thinking after the first few eps this season that perhaps they may have been saying that out of a need to promote a bit of hype (because of the long hiatus).

Not that Scrubs is one to use lame "network" tactics to fake buzz and quality. Just that's how it felt. And I don't particularly blame them for it, since NBC loves to go the other extreme in terms of promotion for Scrubs (aka little to none). So that way, it's all up to the Cast and Crew to create their own hype.

[WannaBeBad2]

As far as the extended opening went, I didn't mind the shots of everyone around the hospital, including Janitor, but mainly the extended version of the song bothered me. It was like it was forcibly stretched out.

The originals credits were fun, and I'm glad they changed them back. The song is brief but gets the whole theme of the series and I like watching the medical staff pass the X-ray round.

[bookcat]

but mainly the extended version of the song bothered me. It was like it was forcibly stretched out.

Fun fact--that's the actual version of the song, from Lazlo Bane's album. Our traditional theme is speeded up.

[Cleo256]

The longer version of the song doesn't bother me as much these days, now that I've listened to the song itself so many times. But I certainly thought it felt wrong.

If they'd stuck with the new opening, I wouldn't mind so much anymore. At the time I didn't like it and given their need to not waste any more precious airtime (you'll notice most of the second-season episodes run only 20 minutes instead of 22 like the first-season episodes).

Firstly, when JD adds Elliot to his list of women he slept with, he says he was stuck on 4 since med school, yet earlier in the season he sleeps with Jordan.

Granted, but it was a fantasy, so is it really a problem? Of course, in his fantasy he has no reason to lie, so the point still stands that it's wrong. And then in the second season when JD, Cox, and Turk compare how many women they've slept with, I don't think JD's number matches the 5 in that fantasy (even if you add any new ones, which I believe is zero over that time since Elliot doesn't count twice).

[Roark13579]

It's funny -- the theme song may be my least favorite piece of music ever used on the show.

Worse than JD's number of sexual partners is the way Elliot's sexual experience is all over the place. In one of the first episodes, she tells Carla she uses sex as an ice-breaker, and from that and other lines, she seems like a classic case of a pretty girl with no self-esteem who's easy because that's the only way she can be sure a guy likes her. But when she sleeps with JD, she says that she likes to have The Talk after having sex five times, which usually takes her "six months to seven years," and there are other indications like that. She seems to jump back and forth from being almost frigid to being kind of a slut, depending on what's needed for the current joke or storyline to work. Some of it can be attributed to the character's considerable confusion about sex, but some of it is just poor continuity. I still love her, though.

[naughtyelf]

I think a bigger problem is Elliot's sudden broodiness when she always hated babies before. I loved her because she had no interest in them, like me, so I've sort of gone off her character now she's lost that just because it suits the current storyline.

Another thing, which can be explained away but I still *hate*, is the fact that JD was the one to move out of the apartment. It was HIS! He rented it in the first place, not Turk! Turk and Carla should have been the ones to move out, or at the very least, JD should have volunteered. Turk and Carla had absolutely no right to ask him to leave.

Of course, my biggest negative opinion right now isn't to do with the show so much as this forum, but I'm not going to get into that.

Edited by naughtyelf, May 9, 2006 @ 6:24 PM.

[heatercat]

Another thing, which can be explained away but I still *hate*, is the fact that JD was the one to move out of the apartment. It was HIS! He rented it in the first place, not Turk! Turk and Carla should have been the ones to move out, or at the very least, JD should have volunteered. Turk and Carla had absolutely no right to ask him to leave.

I thought so too! But it didn't surprise me; couples can be kind of domineering and inconsiderate when there's a third person in the way.

[jcpdiesel21]

As a whole, I did not care much for season 5. Bill Lawrence keeps saying in interviews that he is glad that they had the unnaturally long hiatus so that they could do much more creatively, but honestly, I don't see it. I feel like the show has moved too far from its nice balance of comedy, drama and touching moments and now dabbles in too many wierd, offbeat jokes and visual sequences that are very hit-or-miss. While there were numerous small funny moments this season that kept me watching, and the excellent "My Way Home" episode, overall, I was disappointed with this season.

Edited by jcpdiesel21, May 17, 2006 @ 4:41 PM.

[electricpansies]

Wow, what a horrible ending to the season finale. it felt so cheap to say,Two Weeks Later : I'm pregnant, DUN DUN DUNNNNN. I really thought scrubs was above that kind of cheap gimmickery. I liked the episode before that though.

ETA : whoops my bad, thanks.

Edited by electricpansies, May 17, 2006 @ 7:46 PM.

[skillzdatkillz]

electricpansies you actually don't need spoiler tags for any content that has aired.

I guess I should add something else in this UO thread just in case... So here's my snarky comment: I don't find Jordan funny anymore. I mean, everytime I see her I actually have a mental note "oooh she's gonna say something soooo funny" which is a distraction. But I think mainly it's because of her Botox-ed face lately.

[sometimes]

I guess this is loosely about Scrubs, not as much as it is about Zach Braff, but I couldn't find a better place to vent, and there is some hope that someone agrees with me.

Every time I see an ad for "The Last Kiss" I want to throw something at the TV or smash my laptop. Hey Zach. Can you put your own face on more? Seriously? Do you really think everyone loves you that much? Please. You make one cult hit movie loved by a bunch of drunk, irritating college children‡ and suddenly you give yourself top billing? Come on. Rachel Bilson has at least as much pull as ZB and I know she didn't direct the movie, too, but ZB needs to get over himself. I have friends/family who went to high school with him/work at Touchstone and all report that he has always been a pompous asshole.* Now, first I loved Scrubs, then I heard about his assholeyness, so I am able to still enjoy the episodes, but if ZB keeps up with this self-fellating crap I swear I am going to write a letter DEMANDING he quit season seven just so he doesn't ruin my enjoyment of the show. I want to like him. I really do. He is just making it so damn hard.

I thought Garden State was ok, but just ok. I thought he poured all his little heart and soul into it, but it didn't move my world and I think his next few movies are going to lack any spark it had. Did I hear he was friends with Kevin Smith? Who also made only one cult hit movie and the rest, although adored by a tiny legion of fans, are awful. Alas, we're probably going to have to suffer through a bunch of mediocre, whiny white boy movies for the next 10 years before people figure it out.

*Not that just about everyone in Hollywood is a pompous asshole, but when it's so blatantly obvious, how can you not want to puke?

‡Not to offend anyone who really enjoyed Garden State that wasn't a drunk, irritating, college child, i.e, my best friend. There are exceptions to the rule.

Edited by sometimes, Sep 10, 2006 @ 8:25 PM.

[RainIsBeautiful]

Every time I see an ad for "The Last Kiss" I want to throw something at the TV or smash my laptop. Hey Zach. Can you put your own face on more? Seriously? Do you really think everyone loves you that much? Please.

Ditto, and love. sometimes, I have to change the channel whenever that commercial is on. It KILLS me. Shut up, Zach. You're not as great as you think you are.

[agockows]

Rachel Bilson has at least as much pull as ZB

Now, I don't work in Hollywood so I don't know this for sure, but isn't it up to the studio who gets top billing? I thought that DreamWorks figured that Zach was the draw, and therefore played it up in commercials. It also appears that Bilson has a somewhat smaller role which would also lead to her not getting as high of billing as him. But like I said, I don't really know how that works.

I know she didn't direct the movie, too, but ZB needs to get over himself.

He didn't direct The Last Kiss.

Edited by agockows, Sep 11, 2006 @ 8:39 AM.

[theobviouschild]

I thought Garden State was ok, but just ok. I thought he poured all his little heart and soul into it, but it didn't move my world

Same here. It's so good to know I'm not the only one who wasn't blown away. I want to love Zach Braff but for whatever reason his movie roles are not endearing him to me. He was a lot cuter when he was a nobody, I suppose.

[sometimes]

He didn't direct The Last Kiss.

Well kiss my grits. I am so wrong. Let me take that rant back, then.

I still don't like seeing his face everywhere like he's the bee's knees. You bore me, DreamWorks.

[PittsburghDiva]

Same here. It's so good to know I'm not the only one who wasn't blown away

Add me to the list. I mean, I thought it was *okay*, but I didn't see the big deal.