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[BatFantastic]

Ain't It Cool News

Personally, I think the "Harry Dean Stanton as a tame, religious Tony Soprano who is driven around in a giant Hummer" sounds like one of the most intriguing characters.

Edited by BatFantastic, Mar 10, 2006 @ 5:51 PM.

[Moonlighter]

LDSfilm.com has some of Amanda Seyfried's casting sides for the pilot.

[EmpressbyNature]

I find it most appealing because of all the (three! COUNT 'EM!) actors from Veronica Mars that are going to be there. Especially Tina Majorino as the uber-religious friend of Amanda Seyfried.

[Moonlighter]

EmpressbyNature, I actually spotted a fourth although the fourth had a very minor role in "Return of the Kane" (he was the guy with the camera outside the Echolls estate).

[Karoline]

I find it most appealing because of all the (three! COUNT 'EM!) actors from Veronica Mars that are going to be there. Especially Tina Majorino as the uber-religious friend of Amanda Seyfried.

God, I agree. Kyle Gallner and Tina Majorino (Beaver and Mac) are two of my favorite characters of the show.

ETA: Wait, what episode will Tina star in? I checked IMDB and I can't find out.

Edited by Karoline, Mar 12, 2006 @ 12:27 PM.

[Moonlighter]

I think she's a regular, Karoline. I know she's in the pilot.. She's playing Heather Tuttle and some of the sides that I linked to have lines with her in them. Tina's also on the official site.

[teafan62]

I get the idea that Sarah will become her friend, so she'll be a regular.

[Luciaphile]

3rd episode is (or was) available on HBO on Demand. Nicki wants to throw Wayne a birthday party on the scale of a medium-sized wedding. Meanwhile Bill has a home security system installed. He and Barb meet their new neighbors and in attempting to throw off perceived suspicions, appear to create new ones. Roman, Adaleen, and Rhonda (who is in
"pre-marriage placement") come for the party. In the possibly creepiest moment ever, Harry Dean Stanton sings "Big Rock Candy Mountain" for the kids. There is some interaction between Sarah and Rhonda, Lois and Margene, and lastly in a very skeevy scene, Roman and Nicki.

Edited by Luciaphile, Mar 20, 2006 @ 1:19 PM.

[Imaqt]

I caught the 3rd episode on demand too. I think the pace really picked up a bit. But the scene between Nicki and Roman really gave me the creeps...

[mickif]

It's picked up, but it still feels off. That's the only way I can describe it. Maybe it's because they have so many characters to deal with.

[Kalbear]

Gods, I can't stand Nicki. Especially after ep 3. Ugh. UGH. I know - she's stunted emotionally because of abusive sister-wives and a father that very likely sexually and physically abused her, so I understand why she is the way she is, but...gods, she has the emotional development of a 6 year old. HATE.

Roman is astoundingly creepy. It's worth it just for him.

[barkley]

I just watched the third episode too and I agree that my Nicki hate has increased unbelievably. It's interesting how Nicki's mom keeps giving her the smackdown about her materialism and yet Nicki isn't getting it. Poor little Wayne and his crappy birthday party.

It was interesting when Bill's brother said to Barb that "he got into this (Roman and the business partnership) because of your illness". That would go a long way in explaining why Barb is accepting of the polygamy because Roman's money came with strings (Nicki). That way Roman would always be tied to Bill. After seeing this episode, I can't come up with any other explanation as to why Bill married Nicki - there's not one redeeming quality about her.

Something else I caught in the "all about Big Love" show, Margie comes out with a positive pregnancy test. I'm not sure if it's a flashback or a new scene.

Edited by barkley, Mar 20, 2006 @ 3:41 PM.

[Kalbear]

She almost redeemed herself at the end of ep 3 - saying that she doesn't belong anywhere. I just wish she had some reasonably redeeming character trait. And yeah, it doesn't help that the cast CS in this particular role; if they had switched her and GG's roles, I think it would have helped me enormously.

The saddest thing about ep 3 - the birthday boy's asking if there were going to be any kids at his party. Man, ow.

[Imaqt]

Something else I caught in the "all about Big Love" show, Margie comes out with a positive pregnancy test. I'm not sure if it's a flashback or a new scene.

I think that was a new scene it looked like Barb was holding Margie's youngest baby when she had the test....

[shockey80te]

My biggest problem with the show, other than the misogyny of it all, is Bill spends SO MUCH time trying to attend to the needs of his wives, the kids seem to get the "short end of the stick". heh. How many times already have we seen kids ignored or completely unattended to in 3 eps? Wayne's birthday party was so F'n sad. The women/wives/sisters (oh, I'm getting a headache) require massive amounts of attention even at a child's party. In ep 3, Nicki's mother somehow managed to come across as one of the more normal people on the entire show... And she was teaching her husband's 14 year old wife!!!


Why have I watched all 3 eps? It might have something to do with the fact Ms. SHOCKEY80TE is pissed at me for saying repeatedly last night I wouldn't mind hopping in bed with Jeanne Tripplehorn or GG.

Edited by shockey80te, Mar 20, 2006 @ 11:29 PM.

[Nell Huxleigh]

I think with this polygamous set up - one man as head of household(s) and then sister-wives, it almost gets like a tiered system - he deals with the wives and they deal with the kids.

[barkley]

There's also the "footsie" scene with Margie and Ben when Barb tells Margie to get over to her own house because Sarah is babysitting and wants to come home. The kids really are getting the short end.

Edited by barkley, Mar 20, 2006 @ 9:22 PM.

[puckish]

I think with this polygamous set up - one man as head of household(s) and then sister-wives, it almost gets like a tiered system - he deals with the wives and they deal with the kids.

That's how it seems to me, too. I've been looking up Mormon stuff online all day, and also spent some time on the HBO site, so I can't remember where I saw this, but it seems that for some Mormons (the fundies, I mean, not LDS), the children take the surname of the mother, not the father, which lends some credence to your theory about the tiered system. I think it may be from the HBO site that I got that - Bill's mother's last name is Henrickson, but his father has a different last name. It seems the kids belong to the women, more than to the men. The men are the big-picture providers, and the women provide the moment-to-moment needs. Which is how it's set up in some traditional monogamous relationships, but I think that there is an extra layer of detachment between the father and the various kids in a polygamous relationship that isn't necessarily there in monogamous relationships - I guess because of shortage of resources on the father's part (trying to make enough money for three mortgages, trying to service his wives, etc.). That's conjecture, by the way, nothing more than opinion and hypothesis. I have no knowledge of this subject beyond how it appears to me.

Edited by puckish, Mar 20, 2006 @ 9:30 PM.

[Scrapper]

I loved ep three. Poor little Wayne I felt for him. I don't understand why noone would sing for he's a jolly good fellow with Nikki. Did they all just recently see "Some like it Hot"?

"Barbara did mother invite any children to my party?" And Shoes? Really she couldn't get him more toys then just a bear?

Rhonda just really being a kid who goes with the flow. The Lois/Frank fight was so funny. I know alot of people hate them. But, I find them mighty amusing. Also I feel more for Joey then I do Bill. The writers need to get their butt in gear on that front.

[barkley]

I was also interested in Bill's mom being so upset that Margie was very young. She said something about teaching him that the whole thing with the really young girls isn't right. Since her father was the prophet before Roman, I wonder how different life was on the compound when he was there. I know we get a scene soon of Lois talking about her father being the "one true prophet".

[roxannex]

Was it just me, or was there totally an implication of incest/sexual abuse when Nikki was upstairs in the room with Roman? Like they were a little bit too cozy with one another?

[floretbroccoli]

I'm sure I missed something. When did we hear that Lois's father was the previous prophet?

[zombygirl]

She was talking about it when she was upstairs at the party having a fit.

[Luciaphile]

Was it just me, or was there totally an implication of incest/sexual abuse when Nikki was upstairs in the room with Roman? Like they were a little bit too cozy with one another?

No, it wasn't just you. The way they blocked the shot pretty much suggested it. Roman is lying on the bed. Hair is mussed. He looked slightly sweaty. Nicki is lying on her stomach and her head was definitely near his groin. They were giggling. The way she reacted when Bill walked in clinched it for me. It was all very very skeevy and disturbing. Tie that in with the fact that he's married to a 14-year-old, looked at Sarah with great interest, and you have a strong implication of child abuse.

Edited by Luciaphile, Mar 21, 2006 @ 6:31 PM.

[barkley]

You know that if Bill still lived on the compound Sarah would be married to Roman. Ewwww.

[Fiammetta]

Sarah actually looked like she was thinking about that, and looked appropriately grossed out.

I think Nicki is just absolutely starved for her father's attention, since she received so little of it growing up. (And her mother seems less than kind.) She has no inkling that Roman only wants to use her as a way to get to Bill.

[sarcastic chick]

I also think that Adaleen's advice to Bill about giving Nicki a "firm hand" indicated that Nicki has been abused physically, at least by her mother, but probably also by her father and his other wives.

More and more, I'm coming to really feel sorry for Nicki. She looked so sad when Wayne was opening his presents. I think she loves him and confuses love with money.

[RosemarysFavrit]

Dang. When Nicki said, "I don't fit in anywhere" at the end, it just made me feel sorry for her.

And here I was loving how much I hated her.

Stupid sympathy.

[justina32282]

I don't know how many of you have hbo ondemand but I decided to watch the "About Big Love" which is a 4 minute preview of the season. I have no idea what's going to happen with the whole Roman/compound story line... but I think that at some point Barb is going to leave the family. She has an "affair" with Bill, but he won't leave his other wives and her family is confused and disapproves of the polygamy. I definitely think that one of the cliffhangers at the end of the season is whether or not Barb leaves (or if she leaves what the family's reaction will be).