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Ivanka Trump: More Carolyn Than Carolyn?


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Posted Mar 3, 2006 @ 12:05 PM

I am so excited about seeing Ivanka on TA - I just had to give her a thread.

Did anyone see the documentary "Born Rich" done by an heir to Johnson & Johnson? I think his name was Jay Johnson.

Ivanka was featured in the documentary and came off as an incredibly balanced and non-spoiled girl. Both her privileged upbringing ($$) and her misfortune to have an ass-hat for a father seem to have not hurt her. Compared to some of the psychological train wrecks in that movie, she was a star. She stated that her parents had carefully raised her without a lot of free money and she expected to work her way into earning a place in the business world.

I highly recommend the documentary if you haven't seen it.

Anyway - bring on the mini-Trump!

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Posted Mar 3, 2006 @ 2:51 PM

I did see the documentary and I agree with your assessment of Ivanka in it. That's why I think we should change the name of her thread. "The Donald" does not belong in it because she is hopefully different from him.

Edited by highlander, Mar 3, 2006 @ 2:51 PM.


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Posted Mar 3, 2006 @ 7:49 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing her. I don't know anything about her but I have a feeling that I will like her.

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Posted Mar 4, 2006 @ 9:31 PM

She stated that her parents had carefully raised her without a lot of free money and she expected to work her way into earning a place in the business world.


Yeah, I saw that documentary. She was the only one not willing to dis her parents and came off without one whit of self-loathing. I agree that she came off as much more mature and businesslike (if also a teeny bit pretentious, with the overly mannered accent) than any of the other kids in that documentary, who seemed like nutcases. I remember vividly her childhood room, shown in the movie, which looked like any girl's room but was on, like, the 450th floor or something.

Edited by sic, Mar 4, 2006 @ 9:32 PM.


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Posted Mar 5, 2006 @ 9:24 AM

She, along with Don Jr. and Trump's other son Eric all inherited a large sum of money from Trump's father when he died. It was in the millions-not sure if it was in the low or high millions. Ivanka is truly beautiful and serious about the business world.

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Posted Mar 6, 2006 @ 10:34 PM

I've decided to think of her as Carolyn Jr., which only adds to my admiration for her. And no, you cannot make me think of how that could be a genetic reality! Ewwww!!

I think his name was Jay Johnson

Now, could I call him Ray? (Sorry.)

Edited by girlnamedcarl, Mar 6, 2006 @ 10:38 PM.


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Posted Mar 6, 2006 @ 10:55 PM

Ivanka has the most magnificent skin I have ever seen. Not sure if that's "camera tricks" or high-end cosmetics or just good genes (yikes) but her skin positively glowed tonight.

She seems articulate and thoughtful. I would guess that she earned her way into (and through) school rather than just having it all handed to her.

I look forward to seeing more of her.

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Posted Mar 6, 2006 @ 11:10 PM

She tends to wear this constant look of panic on her face. Maybe having Trump as a father can do that to a person.

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Posted Mar 6, 2006 @ 11:09 PM

Yikes. Would it be wrong for me to admit that I find her hotter then most of the contestants this season? And even hotter then most of the contestants from past seasons?

With that out of the way, I do like her as a NotCarolyn. She seems very smart, and actually has emotion (sorry, Alexis). I can't wait till she's NotCarolyn again.

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Posted Mar 6, 2006 @ 11:27 PM

I never thought I would hesitate to demand Carolyn back ASAP – until now.

I miss Carolyn. That said, I can live with Ivanka on the show for a while.

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Posted Mar 6, 2006 @ 11:32 PM

Amazing that someone could still look stunning in such a hideous outfit (at the beginning, when Trump was talking to the candidates and telling them what the task would be).

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Posted Mar 6, 2006 @ 11:46 PM

I thought Ivanka did great tonight. Her assessment of Pepi was thoughtful and very professional, and I think it truly represented the famous catch phrase: it's not personal, it's business. Carolyn, on the other hand, is a lot more personal (aka bitchy) - IMO. I am looking forward to seing more of Ivanka on the show.

Edited by cuibono, Mar 6, 2006 @ 11:52 PM.


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Posted Mar 6, 2006 @ 11:58 PM

She tends to wear this constant look of panic on her face. Maybe having Trump as a father can do that to a person

I think some of that problem may be due to the fact that she had a bit much in the way of blush on her face. She looked more like she was ready for a runway than the boardroom. If she would have just blended a bit better I think she would have looked even better. She looks beautiful and, amazingly enough, was professional and business-like. I, like many others, miss Carolyn, but she can be our Not!Carolyn anytime.

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 12:21 AM

She was brilliant in the boardroom, but she looked like an amateur porn star!

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 12:57 AM

She was very well-spoken tonight. I was impressed.

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 1:12 AM

I rather liked Ivanka, but I wanted her to let go of the notion of Gillette being above bathrobes as part of an advertising campaign. If Synergy had been in those bathrobes AND at the TKTS booth, and won? Yeah, the bathrobes would've suddenly been genius.

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 1:25 AM

Did you see Boyfriend Bill lean in for a peck on the cheek after Ivanka kissed her daddy 'bye?

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 1:30 AM

...So, when does the BillVanka shipping begin?

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 2:20 AM

Like her. Hate her outfits.

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 2:38 AM

Great first day as a Viceroy. Ivanka was poised, made intelligent observations and wasn't taken in by the various weasels. All this, and looked hot to boot!

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 3:38 AM

While Ivanka did an okay job tonight, I would prefer to see Kendra. The show certainly features “boyfriend Bill” constantly, why leave out Kendra? I understand Kelly does not want to be in front of the camera, but why do we only see Bill? Kendra was hired as Trump’s apprentice, so let’s see her, not his family.

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 9:30 AM

I think Bill is kept there to try and keep the original Apprentice watchers watching because they like to see someone familiar.

I was waiting for Ivanka to say something dumb or screw up...especially when she got the big intro from the Donald about doing so well in school, etc. I was surprised how articulate she was and (though it may have been partially scripted) how she could point out the exact weaknesses in the team's project. I was actually very impressed by her.

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 9:43 AM

Kendra was hired as Trump’s apprentice, so let’s see her, not his family.


Seeing that Trump has stated that he HATED the contestants in her season, I'm not surprised that she has yet to appear. Bill on the other hand, is the connection to the first season, when the show was actually entertaining.

I always liked Ivanka and thought she did a good job here. That said, in some lighting, she looked a lot like Paris Hilton's mom.

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 10:29 AM

I rather liked Ivanka, but I wanted her to let go of the notion of Gillette being above bathrobes as part of an advertising campaign.

I agree. I mean, Michael's idea of the bathrobes definitely caught some attention, but in the spirit of The Apprentice's usual sexism, I'm surprised men and women worn them. Why Ivanka singled Michael out, and in turn, The Donald kept calling him "terrible", I don't know.

Besides that, and the aforementioned outifts, I loved Ivanka. She was right on with her assessment of Pepi, and as everyone else has said, she was insightful and didn't seem as spiny as Carolyn. She can stay. :)

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 10:54 AM

I was coming here to how beautiful Ivanka's tweed suit was! I thought it was two sizes too small, but definitely something that I would wear if I was wealthy. Has anyone noticed any dental malformities on her, or is it just my TV?

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 12:39 PM

Ivanka's wardrobe is such a relief from Carolyn's bland 1990s one size too big minimalist/masculine attire. It's great to see that a woman in business doesn't have to pretend she's not a woman.

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 3:34 PM

Kendra was hired as Trump’s apprentice, so let’s see her, not his family.


Isn't Kendra in Florida while Bill is in NYC? Perhaps Ivanka was in NYC and available to fill in.

I think his name was Jay Johnson.


Now, could I call him Ray?


Just don't call him Late for Supper.

Edited by ConanGrammarian, Mar 7, 2006 @ 3:39 PM.


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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 6:54 PM

Ivanka's voice and poised, confident (but not conceited/snotty) demeanor are very appealing. She wasn't like that in the younger appearances I've seen of her. I'm impressed.

Edited by anonymiss, Mar 7, 2006 @ 6:55 PM.


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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 7:03 PM

There was an article I read some years back, when Ivanka was a sophomore at Georgetown University. (Before she transferred to Wharton to finish up.)

She shared a normal dorm room with 2 other girls. They showed the picture of her in the dorm room, and she was just very normal and nice. I think the girl has a good and strong head on her shoulders, to be not so effected by her parents and their lifestyles.

So I wasn't too surprised to see last night that she is poised and intelligent.
I think she's also gorgeous. Anyway, hope to see more of her!!

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Posted Mar 7, 2006 @ 11:57 PM

I find her overemphasized speech annoying. Being raised by trump she absolutely has some issues that we are probably not going to be allowed to see on camera.