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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 7:15 PM

The difference it makes is that we don't know for certain that he smokes. If he was out their flaunting it, there would be no one asking if he smokes or not.
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 7:40 PM

But we do now, don't we? At least all of us on this board. (And then someone's gonna run off to imdb and post it there and it's going to appear on wiki then the whole world would know!)
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 7:44 PM

I don't know, do we? It still seems up for debate in this thread.
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 8:01 PM

I think it's the freckles. The friends I have who have freckles all got crinkles by their mid-20's. :)

I never put this together! As a freckled, laugh-lined 32 year old, I feel vindicated!

Between Mr Must-Talk-to-Everyone-In-Sight and Mr Fangirls-Eat-People-Don't-They they balance each other out. ;)

That was nicely done, TessatheReaper ... made me laugh!
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 9:42 PM

The potential problem with Jensen and Jared's complaints regarding their work schedule is that the CW's biggest star is also their favorite workhorse, and if he's setting the standard it makes them look bad.

By everyone's account Tom Welling has worked 15 hour days on an 8 day shooting schedule for the last 6 years. He's in virtually every scene of SV, has to do equally difficult stunts, and has been known to film movies simultaneous to his tv show, doing so all without complaint. SV being the flagship show and one of CW's few hits probably means Tom could ask them to ease up on his workload, but he doesn't, and that puts the SPN boys in a very precarious position with their fairly new show that has moderate ratings at best.

Outside of Tom, Sarah Michelle Gellar and Kristen Bell, just counting the shows I watch, have also carried shows singlehandly under equally demanding schedules and for longer periods of time. I understand the boys are tired, but they're not the first actors, or people in general, to have to work this hard and they won't be the last, and they should be concerned about how the execs will take their complaints.
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 9:47 PM

I think the reason Jensen and Jared even said anything was because there show was in a position was that they could. Sarah Michelle Gellar, Kristin Bell and Tom Welling can't really do anything about their shows. I mean, Sarah couldn't exactly ask to be in less scenes considering that the show is called Buffy. Like with Veronica Mars and that Smallville is about Clark Kent becoming Superman. Supernatural has two equal leads so they could figure out a way to make them have a little more time off.
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 9:50 PM

Both very good arguments, but I want them to get more rest and still see more of them.

Can't they like film them separately and superimpose one on the other?
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 9:55 PM

Anyway, this is kind of a weird observation, but can I just say I am so glad that both Ackles and Padalecki have their normal teeth? So many actors these days are getting those veneers that look so perfect and fake, and their smiles look like something manufactured by Mattel. I always spot the fake teeth immediately and they bug the hell out of me for some reason, it seems like such a vain thing to do unless your teeth are all rotted out or something. Dean's demon in "Crossroad Blues" had them and it was so distracting to me. So I just love that Jensen and Jared have their beautiful natural smiles intact instead of a row of bulging snow-white chiclets that are clearly a different color and shape from the rest of their teeth.



As much as I love Sarah, I kinda got a veneers vibe from her the first time I saw Provenance. She just seemed...toothy. I've since moved on and now only notice her smoking hotness.

Three cheers for Jensen's actual teeth!
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 9:59 PM

Sarah Michelle Gellar and Kristen Bell

I don't think SMG was in a that many scene's considering. It was called Buffy, yet was more of an ensemble show, with Xander or Willow or Giles being the focus a lot of the time. I couldn't remember too many episodes where it was all Buffy all the time. And if I remember correctly, Kirsten too asked for her workload to be cut down after the first season and a half or so. So I doubt them asking for reduction is that uncommon, or something anyone would really care about. It's when they start pulling crap like not showing up for work that the exec's care.
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 10:03 PM

I have to disagree, allsfair. Both on Smallville and on Buffy (I can't speak to VM, I've never watched it), there is a sizeable supporting cast. Buffy may have been the title character, but in any given episode there would be plenty of scenes with just Xander and Willow, or Giles and Anya or something.

Tom Welling's ... in virtually every scene of SV


But he's not, really. There's plenty of scenes with just the supporting characters. The plotlines are spread around a much larger group of people. Because it's not just about Clark, there's Lana and Lex and Chloe and Lionel and Martha etc. etc.

I really can't see how a show with just two main characters, who are in almost every scene together, with no supporting cast to speak of wouldn't be exponentially more exhausting.

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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 10:06 PM

Supernatural has two equal leads so they could figure out a way to make them have a little more time off.

That's possible, but the one ep where Sam has less screen time had fans in such a tizzy they were on the verge of threatening boycotts, something I'm in agreement with since I too only love the Winchester boys as a pair. And it'd be impossible to write more than an ep or 2 in the same format as No Exit, which leaves only the odd research/interview scene to be filmed separately, but I don't think those make up enough of their schedule to really matter.
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 10:20 PM

He's in virtually every scene of SV


If that's the case, why is it that every time I turn on Smallville I see that weird bald-headed guy? And his equally annoying girlfriend?
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 10:28 PM

Yes, both shows have supporting casts, but it was and is extremely rare for the supporting characters to have storylines or scenes independent of the stars


However, it *was* possible. The "Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered" episode of Buffy was written in such a way that Sarah Michelle Gellar could basically have the entire week of shooting off so that she could guest host Saturday Night Live. They simply turned her into a rat for an episode.

I can think of plenty of episodes of BTVS that focused on other characters--eps like The Dark Age (Giles), Phases(Oz and Willow), The Zeppo (Xander)--there's plenty more, but those are just ones that instantly come to mind. That's not to say that SMG wasn't in those episodes, but she's not in *every* scene. In Supernatural, Jensen and Jared are in 99% of scenes of principal photography (the wraps--the "Now" setups--are usually filmed second unit after the main crew has moved on to the next ep) so they definitely don't get as much time off.

Smallville might be a better example, just because Tom Welling *is* in a lot of scenes in the show. However, as the show has expanded into other characters, he's probably no longer doing those 6 days a week, 15-16 hour days. I mean, the last episode, he was only in about 10 minutes and was definitely relegated to the "B" story.

So I can have sympathy for Jared and Jensen's situation. The other shows have ensemble casts, so they have the ability to ease back on their lead's screen time to give them a break. On Supernatural, that's just not possible because they don't have an ensemble cast. And getting an ensemble cast just takes away what makes the show work, because people want to see Sam and Dean, not Ash and Jo. This show isn't built to be an ensemble by any means.

So splitting them up--but still letting them work together via phone, etc--on occasion in an ep might not be a bad idea, and let the guys get a little bit of rest.
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 10:30 PM

Yes, both shows have supporting casts, but it was and is extremely rare for the supporting characters to have storylines or scenes independent of the stars.

That's pretty true for SV (although Lana and Lex do take up a lot of screentime) but that's just not true for Buffy. From season 1-7 there tons of storyline's that had nothing to do with Buffy, or didn't have Buffy very involved. Xander and Cordelia, Xander and Anya, Willow's crush on Xander, her dating Oz, him being a werewolf, her magic, Tara, Gile's and Jenny Calender, all the early Spike and Druscilla scene's, all the early Master scene's, the mayor, etc. And that's just early stuff.
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 10:36 PM

There several extenuating circumstances leading to the fan reaction to No Exit and JPad's noticeable absence which have all been discussed ad nauseam. I won't go into all that again except to point to that reaction as an anomaly.

A few pages back La Anah posted an interesting breakdown which shows that they may have already been splitting the boys shooting schedule and I for one didn't really notice anything until No Exit and The Usual Suspects.

La Anah: I don't think we need to imagine how the show will change based on the comments in that article, I'm pretty sure we've been seeing those changes since the beginning of the season.

More hunters: Ellen, Jo, and Gordon (so far)

Separating the brothers:
In My Time of Dying: Dean wanders the hospital and talks to Tessa without Sam, Sam talks to Daddy! and Bobby without Dean. More than half the episode has them separated.
Everybody Loves a Clown: Most scenes together
Bloodlust: Dean and Gordon have a prolonged conversation in the bar without Sam, Sam gets kidnapped by vampires without Dean.
Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things: They are together for most of the episode, but then they fight and Sam hangs out alone in the motel room to watch porn while Dean angrily investigates on his own.
Simon Said: They split up first so Dean can follow Andy and Sam can follow Doc, and again so Sam can babysit Andy while Dean checks out the gas station fire.
No Exit: Dean and Jo have many scenes together while Sam does something unspecified off screen.
The Usual Suspects: Almost the entire episode has them in separate interrogation rooms. They are only together in flashbacks and at the very end.
Crossroad Blues: They spilt up so that Sam can protect the PiP, while Dean confronts the Crossroads Demon.


I would also agree with those that say Smallville, Buffy and Veronica Mars may all have one main lead but are essentially ensemble cast shows. I watched Smallville for four seasons, and Tom Welling was not and never has been in virtually every scene. Rob Thompson admitted they had run Kristen Bell ragged in the first season and said in the second season, they planned to give Logan, Wallace and Keith's slightly more independent story arcs to give Bell a bit more time off.

The only show that I've watched in recent memory that compares to Supernatural in terms of a two-person lead is The X-Files. I remember Duchovney bitterly complaining on a regular basis about the long hours due to the fact that he and Gillian Anderson were in virtually every scene. Over the years he grew increasingly dissatisfied and we all know what happened with him leaving before the show ended.

If the producers of Supernatural are smart, they will work to fix the problem now before the show gets any bigger and their pretty stars get too cranky and bitter. JMHO.
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 10:38 PM

The "Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered" episode of Buffy was written in such a way that Sarah Michelle Gellar could basically have the entire week of shooting off so that she could guest host Saturday Night Live. They simply turned her into a rat for an episode

BtVS was on for 7 years at around 20 eps per season, which means she made 140 eps with 20 eps where she's not forefront and that's a wide estimatation. These boys have made 32 eps with 4 that I can think of where they've been separated or replaced by mini!Sam and mini!Dean. I think the breakdown works in their favor
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 10:40 PM

Smallville might be a better example, just because Tom Welling *is* in a lot of scenes in the show.


But I doubt he gets as tired as Jared and Jensen do because he's not actually, you know, acting.

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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 11:10 PM

Tom Welling's ... in virtually every scene of SV


Not the episodes I've seen, which are admittedly very few. The one before Crossroad Blues it seemed like he was there for about five minutes, getting beat up by some wrestler. *shrug*

Anyway. Topic.

I think Jensen Ackles is a very talented actor who acts from character rather than script, and bringing the amount of intensity to a screen he does must take more energy than, say, some actors who basically just read the lines and make an appropriate face. Not naming names.

As for his personal habits, and the smoking rumours and crap, what the hell ever. It's his personal life, and every sentient being born in this universe has the right to a personal life, (in my opinion).

All disparaging remarks regarding Jensen Ackles' theoretical personal habits may be directed to his theoretical highly-trained troupe of acrobatic stunt juggling kittens, who will bat them around the floor, chew them to bits, and eventually regurgitate them as theoretical hairballs. They can kick Chuck Norris' ass too. Theoretically. ;-)
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 11:20 PM

They can kick Chuck Norris' ass too. Theoretically. ;-)


The kittens or the hairballs?
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 11:22 PM

Thank you, signy and ck. I forgot where I was with all the Buffy and Tom talk.

Who's thread is this? Oh, yeah, that's right, it teh pretty's.
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 11:30 PM

BOTH
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Posted Nov 27, 2006 @ 11:37 PM

They can kick Chuck Norris' ass too. Theoretically. ;-)

The kittens or the hairballs?


The kittens. They don't need to use the hairballs to take on Chuck Norris.
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Posted Nov 28, 2006 @ 12:02 AM

Can't they like film them separately and superimpose one on the other?


I am totally in favor of this! ;)

On topic yay
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Posted Nov 28, 2006 @ 12:06 AM

[quote]Can't they like film them separately and superimpose one on the other? [quote]
Heh, yes, because they do so well with quick shots of bugs, women getting sucked into hell, and car scenes, this shouldn't be distracting at all.
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Posted Nov 28, 2006 @ 12:10 AM

Just made some motivators! The third one is just plain old Ackles pimpage.
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Posted Nov 28, 2006 @ 12:29 AM

Less chit-chat, more gun porn!


Mmmmm, gun porn!
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Posted Nov 28, 2006 @ 12:46 AM

I am totally in favor of this! ;)


! I didn't mean for it to come out that way, but, heh, if only.

Just made some motivators! The third one is just plain old Ackles pimpage.


Very nice! Oh ya, the posters too.
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Posted Nov 28, 2006 @ 7:04 AM

I'd seen a snippet of the Paley panel on youtube and thought the boys were cute, but seeing the DVD version is amazing. Jensen is soooo broad shouldered and well spoken and just all round gorgeous, I loved it. The do-do exchange was priceless. I shall forever be indebted to the beautiful unfamousloser :)

I'm not opposed to the boys having separate scenes if they write in a good reason for it. If they're apart beacause they are angry with eachother or like in, In my time of dying, Sam thought Dean may die, it's exciting because you want to see how they deal with the situation and their anger/emotions. When they're separate because one is doing research and the other's doing field work it's kinda boring. I loved it when Sam met Meg and then a few episodes later she insults Dean because Sam had bitched about him. Or, my favorite one, was in Asylum when Sam went to the shrink and he wanted to hear about his relationship with Dean, I still wanna know what was said.

I hope Demian doesn't ban me for this but I read today the final season? of Charmed is about to air here and it's where Billie is introduced. I've never watched the show but after hearing about maggotneck I'm drawn to it, in a way you're drawn to look at a train wreck.

Sadia posted this pic on the Supernatural Lovers site. Apparently the girl in the photo got to meet Jensen on the set and have lunch with him. OMG, I am green.
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Posted Nov 28, 2006 @ 7:18 AM

...Where can I buy that packaged deal dammit! lol. He looks tall there :) Did they post anything about her experience...I am way nosey.
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Posted Nov 28, 2006 @ 7:30 AM

Not yet, but I'm hoping they will update. Link.
It's a cool little blogspot.
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