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[Mexicanguy]

Here's the place where we can talk about GA's ratings and the scheduling moves that ABC (or it's affiliates) might pull in the future. Let's start with ABC's decision to air the show after the super bowl, shall we?

Edited by Mexicanguy, Nov 1, 2005 @ 11:21 PM.

[naneki78]

Well, it is traditionally quite a coup to land the post Super Bore spot, so maybe GA will draw in more male viewers?

ABC is certainly being supportive of GA, by giving it that spot. I totally expected 'Lost'.

[AgentX]

ABC is certainly being supportive of GA, by giving it that spot. I totally expected 'Lost'.

Yeah, while I love the fact that GA will have more exposure to new viewers thanks to the post-Super Bowl slot, I completely believed that Lost was going to get it. It seems to fit better.

[Mexicanguy]

Well, it is traditionally quite a coup to land the post Super Bore spot, so maybe GA will draw in more male viewers?

I'm sure that's what ABC is expecting, but GA doesn't seem like the kind of show the Super Bowl audience will watch. What will the producers of the show do to attract a male audience? A sub-plot with Izzie modeling lingerie?

Edited by Mexicanguy, Nov 1, 2005 @ 9:53 PM.

[ottergreen]

Someone mentioned in the old thread that GA might get its own night, since it's become obvious that it doesn't need Desperate Housewives as a lead-in. Would this be this season? I need to schedule my classes around that for next semester...

[Erasmus Wembly]

Grey's Anatomy did better in the ratings than a repeat of Desperate Housewives, which shows that the program has a following of its own. The post Super Bowl gig may boost that even more. The question is why are they giving this prime spot to an already successful show, instead of boosting another show that needs help, such as Jake in Progress, or a new show such as What About Brian? My theory, which is pure conjecture and is backed by absolutely no information at all, is that ABC is positioning Grey's Anatomy to move to another night in 2006 - 2007. They need the post-Desperate Housewives slot to launch new programs, and Grey's Anatomy could help anchor another night for ABC. If ABC had any gonads (tm George), they'd move the show to Thursdays at 9:00 to take on CSI and The Apprentice. Grey's Anatomy wouldn't beat CSI, but it could hurt it, and help ABC on a very weak night. Thursday is the most lucrative night of the week for advertising, and ABC is not doing it with Alias and The Night Stalker. You heard it here first.

Great to have a whole big thread to speculate about this.

[Mexicanguy]

My theory, which is pure conjecture and is backed by absolutely no information at all, is that ABC is positioning Grey's Anatomy to move to another night in 2006 - 2007.

I was thinking the same thing.

If ABC had any gonads (tm George), they'd move the show to Thursdays at 9:00 to take on CSI and The Apprentice. Grey's Anatomy wouldn't beat CSI, but it could hurt it, and help ABC on a very weak night.

Thursdays is a huge risk that it might not even pay off; what if GA loses a sizeable chunk of it's audience? Mondays seems like a better option because there is not a lot of competition that night and ABC won't have Monday Night Footbal the next season so they will need one or two succesful shows there.

Edited by Mexicanguy, Nov 1, 2005 @ 11:22 PM.

[Chipper730]

There isn't an established medical drama on Mondays at all, and Sunday would certainly provide a strong promotional platform for the show if it moves there, probably taking the 9PM spot since they'd want to use it to launch a series.

I doubt they will even consider Thursdays.

[Erasmus Wembly]

Thursdays is a huge risk that it might not even pay off; what if GA loses a sizeable chunk of it's audience?

Mexicanguy, that's why it would take some huge gonads on ABC's part. But it needs to do something on Thursday night. Again, it's the most lucrative night of the week in terms of advertising, due to movie studios and retailers advertising for the weekend. Any new show that ABC puts on that night is going to get killed (see The Night Stalker). I would liken this to CBS moving Survivor from Wednesday, where it originally aired, to Thursday to take on Seinfeld way back when. That helped fuel CBS' rise to the top.

Mondays seems like a better option because there is not a lot of competition that night and ABC won't have Monday Night Footbal the next season so they will need one or two succesful shows there.

That was my second thought, although CSI: Miami is a top ten show. You're assuming that What About Brian? is going to bomb, which it may. Actually, this might not be a bad lineup:

8:00 - 9:00: Wife Swap / The Bachelor
9:00 - 9:30: Emily's Reasons Why Not
9:30 - 10:00: Jake in Progress
10:00 - 11:00: Grey's Anatomy

They're all lighter shows with an appeal to women.

Did I say I love having an entire thread to speculate about this?

[LingPetunia]

I don't think Grey's Anatomy would be that hurt by CSI if it was moved to Thursdays. I don't watch CSI, but I am assuming it is not a serial (most crime shows aren't), so I could see people skipping an episode of that over GA.

[snowfall]

I think Grey's Anatomy should air on Thursdays at 10 if ABC moves it. The only real competition would be from Without A Trace. ER is nothing but a steaming pile of shit now and the falling ratings prove that so GA wouldn't be affected by it. If anything it would affect ER's ratings.

ETA IIRC both ER and Chicago Hope aired on the same night and time for a while so there could be 2 medical dramas on at the same time.

Edited by snowfall, Nov 2, 2005 @ 10:19 AM.

[YuppieLawyer]

I'm sure that's what ABC is expecting, but GA doesn't seem like the kind of show the Super Bowl audience will watch.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that more women watch the Super Bowl than the Oscars, so I think there will be plenty of audience for it.

I agree with the theory that they are planning on moving it to another night. It got a lot of first-time viewer attention from the DH lead-in, but has now established that it doesn't need the DH lead-in to achieve good ratings. I'm sure ABC would like to use DH as a lead-in for another new show, now that it seems that Grey's can stand on its own.

[Bruin4Ever]

Come January, ABC is going to be looking for something to fill those lonely Monday Night Football-less evenings. Could GA be moved there to try and keep their Monday night ratings up?

[Qui]

While I know that most people on TWoP don't watch CSI, GA will be murdered if it goes against it. Without A Trace has been in the top 5 since it started and even people don't talk about as much, it's not likely to change. Just leave it where it is and don't screw with the show.

[Livia52001]

I believe that ABC will move GA to another night..next year, ABC won't have Monday Night Football at all (it's going to NBC) so it needs a hit to anchor or rather, finish off the night. It would go against CSI:Miami though, but I'm confident that most of that audience is not the same as Grey's.

Even if GA moves to Thursdays, anything would perform better than 20/20 or Night Stalker.

[Dysturbed]

In Philadelphia ABC is airing the Eagles game and had Desperate Housewives on at 7 and they are airing Grey's Anatomy at 11:30 after the game.

[Bruin4Ever]

I like it when show I watch get good ratings. yay!

[Buckner400]

Some thoughts on the post SUpe Bowl airing:
1. My understanding is it is a push for more mail viewers (other than me I guess).
2. Related to that, I usually attend a Super Bowl party at a local restaraunt. A friend rents out the back room, gets a huge screen, a never ending buffet, and charges 50 bucks a head. Room is usually full. The question, how do I convince him to allow me use of room afterwards to watch the show - or do I haul ass out of there, missing post game stuff and watch at home?

By the way Livia52001 - Monday Night Football is going to ESPN next year. NBC will get the Sunday night games (is this too much football talk for this site - don't want to upset AB Chao again).

[Shacklebolt]

Helped by the end of 'Desperate Housewives' ratings' slump, a season-high ratings for GA (Hollywood Repoter):

ABC's "Desperate Housewives" reeled in its largest audience and six weeks while "Grey's Anatomy" hit a season high to push ABC to an easy victory on another busy Sunday in primetime. The second half of CBS' killer-storm miniseries "Category 7: The End of the World" didn't pack quite the same punch as the first half did last Sunday, but it still improved markedly on the eye network's showing this season in adults 18-49 in its 9-11 p.m. movie slot. NBC didn't get much of a bounce in benching its regular Sunday night dramas for a two-hour "Saturday Night Live" 1980s retrospective. "Housewives" popped at 9 p.m. to finish out the night with an average of 26.5 million viewers and 11.1 rating/24 share in the adults 18-49 demographic. "Grey's Anatomy" (20.7 million, 9.1/21) rose to season-high ratings in the 10 p.m.

[Erasmus Wembly]

Not much of a surprise, but The Night Stalker (Thursday, 9:00 PM) has been cancelled. So ABC has bombed again on Thursday nights. I think any new series it puts on that night will get killed against CSI. Moving Grey's Anatomy to Thursday at 9:00 next year makes more sense to me. It wouldn't have to beat CSI, but doing the following would make the move a success:

1. Establish an ABC presence on Thursday nights, the most lucrative advertising night of the week.

2. Hurt CSI a little bit, maybe enough to make Desperate Housewives the #1 show on television.

3. Provide a better lead-in to Primetime Live.

I think what they'll do is the same that they did with Boston Legal and Grey's Anatomy. Sometime in the spring (maybe March, after the February sweeps), pull Grey's Anatomy for four or five weeks and put another show in the Sunday 10:00 time slot with Desperate Housewives as a lead-in. If that show does well, like Grey's Anatomy did, then it would come back in that time slot during 2006 - 2007 and Grey's Anatomy could be moved to another night.

[bsg27]

Thursday nights, the most lucrative advertising night of the week.

Can someone explain this to me? It seems somewhat counter-intuitive...

I would think the ever-important 18-35 age range (is 18-49 seriously a demographic? - it seems quite broad) would be the least likely to be sitting at home watching television on a Thursday night - the official start of the weekend - of any weeknight.

I suppose college kids are hanging out before going out drinking on Thirsty Thursday later in the evening because for whatever reason at that age it's not "cool" to go out before 11+. And perhaps young professionals would be getting home around 10 or so after Happy Hour(s) post work.

I know when I was young I used to really look forward to Thursdays - it always had the best TV... Cheers way back in the day, 90210 in middle school, and ER in high school, but then when I got to college and since, not so much. I just can't see too many people (well, maybe for GA) re-arranging their social lives for a television show.

At any rate - I hope they don't change the day. I used to dread Sunday nights because you have the whole work week ahead of you. Now I can't wait - GA is really the only show I watch on a regular basis... and more to the point, I'm usually around on Sunday nights. :)

Edited by bsg27, Nov 17, 2005 @ 3:30 PM.

[Erasmus Wembly]

bsg27, Thursdays are the most lucrative advertising night of the week for two reasons:

(1) The movie studios are plugging their movies especially hard in advance of the weekend.

(2) Retailers are also advertising a lot to boost weekend sales.

[bsg27]

Ok. Thanks. That makes sense, I suppose.

My television viewing habits probably aren't your average persons...

[Erasmus Wembly]

More big numbers for GA in the last broadcast (from Mediaweek):

-Total Viewers:
Desperate Housewives (ABC: 25.89 million), CSI (CBS: 25.72), Grey’s Anatomy (ABC: 19.59), Survivor: Guatemala (CBS: 19.54), Without A Trace (CBS: 19.50), Cold Case (CBS: 19.36), CSI: Miami (CBS: 19.35), Lost (ABC: 19.29), Law & Order: SVU (NBC: 17.08), NCIS (CBS: 16.43) . . .

-Adults 18-49:
Desperate Housewives (ABC: 11.1/24), Grey’s Anatomy (ABC: 8.9/21), CSI (CBS: 8.4/23), Lost (ABC: 7.8/20), Survivor: Guatemala (CBS: 6.6/20), CSI: Miami (CBS: 6.6/16), Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (ABC: 6.5/15), Monday Night Football: Minnesota at Green Bay (ABC: 6.1/16), Without A Trace (CBS: 5.9/17), Law & Order: SVU (NBC: 5.7/15) . . .

True, CBS' Thursday lineup was hurt by Thanksgiving, but it's nice to see GA beat CSI in the 18 - 49 demographic. Could GA do it if they went head-to-head? With Alias now ending after this season, Thursday remains a big hole in ABC's lineup.

[Mexicanguy]

GA is thisclose to get 20 million of viewers!! Yay!

Could GA do it if they went head-to-head?

I doubt it. Let's wait and see what happens with AI on January, shall we?

Edited by Mexicanguy, Nov 30, 2005 @ 3:16 PM.

[bookie85]

How many more episodes are we going to have until January? Is next week the last one? I need to know how many weeks to set the tape for in my dorm room. Thanks.

[jewlmc]

Actually I heard on the ABC board that it would return on Jan 8 with a new episode.