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[Pop Culture Freak]

Since no one has started a thread on this 'ship, I thought I would.

Personally, I'd like to see these two together, but probably not until he tells her the true reason he's in jail. Out in the "real world" these two totally could be a couple. But in prison - that's a little weird. Although kinky. I could do kinky.

Anyhow, it's clear TPTB are going somewhere with this pairing. So let's discuss!

[LolaRuns]

If they stay in prison for longer than one season, then I say yes.

If they don't then I'm all for some heavy flirting and him screwing her over (if necessarily both carnally and metaphorically).

I do not want her to become a hostage for anything longer than an episode. Nor do I want her to switch sides and become a total Michael/Linc supporter. Sympathise with them? Yeah. Actively support them (execpt maybe stitch up a wound or two)? No.

Down the road? If they met outside of prison? Could definitively picture them.

[PinkRanger]

It'll be very hard to put them together. Sara's all about being professional and even if she is attracted to Michael, through her eyes he isn't innocent, he's a convicted felon.

That being said, I hope Michael isn't just going to use her as a pawn and actually cares about her.

[truecrystal]

I'm all for some heavy flirting and him screwing her over (if necessarily both carnally and metaphorically).

Absolutely. In fact, I hope they screw each other over.

I like the idea of Sara/Michael because I think she's a smart woman who would try like hell to figure out all about Michael without getting all caught up in whatever he's planned. She undercuts his arrogance, and he breaks through her reserve. And the actors have nice understated chemistry that works.

[Prettyeyes]

One more for the SaMi (Sara/Michael) Love train. What I lurve about them is that while Sara wants Michael, she doesn't completely trust him, so she's keeping her guard up, and rightfully so. Michael's feelings for Sara, otoh, while he does have ulterior motives at first, are gonna get stronger every week, I'm guessing. While SaMi might be predictable as hell, since they've got chemistry, just like with the rest of this show, I'm gonna sit back and enjoy the ride. Besides, anything that gets WM at least halfway nekkid couldn't hurt.

Edited by Prettyeyes, Sep 22, 2005 @ 9:50 PM.

[Sexylibrarian]

(Just thought I would copy my post from another thread.)

I think the good doctor is drawn to him, but I do like the fact that she's acted professionally and is keeping her distance emotionally. I did notice that she was watching Michael as the guards were dragging him off to be transferred.

...through her eyes he isn't innocent, he's a convicted felon.

Exactly, and I would be disappointed in the character if she didn't treat him as such.

Edited by Sexylibrarian, Sep 22, 2005 @ 9:50 PM.

[Nikki125]

And the actors have nice understated chemistry that works.

I agree. I actually like their scenes together very much. Usually, I could not care less about TV couples and I'm not shipping any couple at the moment (well, except for Dualla and Lee on BSG) but I do love the flirting that goes on between Michael and Sara (Sami? Michara?). However, I do agree that she is too smart to fall for a convicted felon. Once Michael and the gang break out of prison, that better be the last we see of the good doctor. If she falls for Michael and helps them post prison break, I will lose any respect I have for the character.

[LolaRuns]

Can we please try not to have a cutesy name for them? I don't mind smushed together names for shows which have a lot of pairings. But they see to be the only main contender on this show for now, so I'm kinda hoping it could just be Michael/Sara or Michael/pretty doctor for now.

[Pop Culture Freak]

I agree that the actors work really well together, and they offer each other something that neither gets in anyone else at the prison - breaking down each others exteriors.

However, I also agree that unless Michael were to reveal his true reason for being in prison, they can't get together. That would totally undermine her character. However, if he were to reveal it to her, I could see them hooking up without it being totally out of character for her.

Also, I agree that I will accept any WM nekkid scenes no matter how much they fuck up the plot. My TiVo would be very happy.

[LolaRuns]

Question is whether he'll have to tell her. Or if she'll figure it out herself before that.

[truecrystal]

I think the first option would be better for their relationship, but the second option would be better for the show. Once he tells her, the only question to be answered then is will she accept it or not. But if she's forced to figure it out herself, there's the processes of how she figures it out to work through and then what she does with the information once she knows. Does she tell him she knows? Does she sabotage him without telling him she knows? Does she wait?

Either way, I like that there are definite reasons why they should and shouldn't be together that they'll need to work through that aren't simply based on their personalities. Nothing drives me crazier than a 'ship that's strung out forever soley because they're "so different". If you're going to tease me with hot monkey love and then not give it to me, then there needs to be some damn good reasons why.

Edited by truecrystal, Sep 23, 2005 @ 11:47 AM.

[Pop Culture Freak]

I certainly don't think they're just going to have these two jump into bed or anything - but there is already an intimacy that they don't have with anyone else. I mean, hell, he cried in front of her (not willingly, but still, it melts your heart!). I'm looking forward to watching what comes out of that - betrayal? lies? truth? It will be intersting.

Also, I wouldn't put it past her to figure it out. One of the characters - not sure who - mentioned something about Michael walking into a bank and discharging a weapon, knowing it would send him to a certain type of prison, but then not taking the money, hostages, etc. She already knows from his file that he was a first-time offender and that this whole thing seems very out of character for the person he seems to have been prior to going to jail. If she really looks into his crime, now knowing that his bro is in the prison too, it shouldn't take her long to connect the dots and figure out that he got himself into jail to be with Linc. It might take her longer, depending on how the events unfold, to figure out that they plan to break out.

ETA

If you're going to tease me with hot monkey love and then not give it to me, then there needs to be some damn good reasons why.

Maybe we'll just get to see one of them having hot monkey love dreams, so we can at least get the WM body shots. :)

Edited by Pop Culture Freak, Sep 23, 2005 @ 12:11 PM.

[LolaRuns]

She could figure out that he truely is faking his diabetes, wonder what motive he could possibly have to do that (well other than to see her), Linc's execution coming up... I can picture her putting it all together.

[truecrystal]

Maybe we'll just get to see one of them having hot monkey love dreams, so we can at least get the WM body shots.

I could definitely live with that.

Aw hell. Let's just be honest. They could do Michael/Abruzzi and I'd be all over it as long as WM was naked. Michael/Sara is just much more pleasing to the eye. ;)

Edited by truecrystal, Sep 23, 2005 @ 12:17 PM.

[LolaRuns]

Can't you picture it? She figures out he is faking the diabetes and confronts him. And of course he has to fake it and tell her that it is to see her and of course he then has to have sex with her to protect his secret ;)

[Pop Culture Freak]

Oh God, truecrystal, that just gave me the dry heaves!

ETA Maybe she'll find out sooner rather than later. From episode 8, courtesy of the spoiler thread - Sarah is trying to find someone who knows Michael in order to get info about him... but she will find more than she bargained for.

Edited by Pop Culture Freak, Sep 23, 2005 @ 12:26 PM.

[Prettyeyes]

Could we please try not to have a cutesy nickname for them? I don't mind smushed together names for shows with a lot of pairings. But they seem to be the only contender for now. so I'm just kinda hoping it could just be Sara/Michael or Michael/pretty doctor for now.

I respectfully disagree. Though I admit I'm slightly biased, I've got no problem with one show having one ship as long as they've got chemistry. For example, arguably the best thing about the TV version of The X-Files for many viewers was "Sculder," aka Scully/Mulder. Plenty of other things have hurt that show, but blending Scully/Mulder's names wasn't one of them, IMO.

[instant karma]

Can we please try not to have a cutesy name for them? I don't mind smushed together names for shows which have a lot of pairings. But they see to be the only main contender on this show for now, so I'm kinda hoping it could just be Michael/Sara or Michael/pretty doctor for now.

Is S&M too cutesy?

[Tabulous]

instant karma, S&M is perfect! I definitely think that this whole plan could hinge on the good doctor. Being the Governor's daughter could help Michael and by extension Lincoln if she get's attached to M. Which to me it seems like she is. I mean she is making a big effort to get to know more about him. I mean that interview with Linc was more about connecting with Michael than knowing Linc's medical history. Although, I also think she's about to bust his ass over the diabetes thing. Of course maybe, she'll owe him one and decide not to out him. Of course she could send the whole thing up in smoke pretty easily if she wanted to.
Either way, these two have undeniable chemistry.

[sueli769]

S&M could also work with S being "Sucre", can't it?

[JJforLife47]

I Love SaMi or Mira....I dig the cutesy :P

Sara and Michael's scenes are the best parts for me. I love it when WM flirts with her and show his vulnerable side when needed. To be honest, PB is my guilty pleasure. Unlike other shows, where if the lead leaves I'll continue watching, if Wenty leaves...it's over.

So bring on the flirting and droolworthy scenes! They are mmm...mmm goood ;)

[redrobin27]

I certainly don't think they're just going to have these two jump into bed or anything - but there is already an intimacy that they don't have with anyone else. I mean, hell, he cried in front of her (not willingly, but still, it melts your heart!). I'm looking forward to watching what comes out of that - betrayal? lies? truth? It will be intersting.

Not trying to be snarky, but I really wouldn't consider that intimacy. Michael, while quite the analytical genius, never really gave me the impression that he has a high threshold for pain. So, him coming to tears might have been inevitable anyway. Not that I could blame him - I'd be bawling like a baby after getting a couple of little piggies severed.

And it seems that I am alone in not seeing the chemistry between these two. A romance between these two is too much of a plot contrivance. Yeah, there's some flirting going on, no doubt, but I can't see these two in a relationship.

[LolaRuns]

I just hope that whatever happens is something the writers planned. Because if they just wrote in a romance just because people are hot of them... that kind of thing only sounds good in theory and usually just ends up mucking up the plot/show.

[ecaron]

Y'all are killing me with this whole thread. Argh. I just don't like her, I don't think she's that smart, and not at all interesting. The idea of stolen kisses in the infirmary is so high school and just...it's not the right show for it. And this is coming from someone who made an involuntary 'unghl' sound during the nude scene in The Human Stain.

And, in other news, I think he does have a fairly high pain tolerance. He barely breaks concentration during the tattoo scenes, which, it's not horrendously painful, but it's not being tickled by a feather, either.

[Pop Culture Freak]

Not trying to be snarky, but I really wouldn't consider that intimacy.

I can see you point, but I think in that situation, it does qualify. But that's just me.

[redrobin27]

And, in other news, I think he does have a fairly high pain tolerance. He barely breaks concentration during the tattoo scenes, which, it's not horrendously painful, but it's not being tickled by a feather, either.

ecaron, you have a valid point. I have never gotten a tattoo, so I can't personally say what it's like. And I have never had any toes cut off, either. So I suppose it's difficult to compare the two.

I don't dislike Sara - I just can't see S&M hooking up. And while I think she is more intelligent than Veronica (because, really, just about everyone is on this show, including Linc), she really hasn't had enough screen time for me to say she's this great doctor. Especially since we really haven't seen her interact with any other prisoners (another plot contrivance). To be honest, she lost me with asking Linc for his medical history. Like, wouldn't the prison have that on file? I realize it was set up that way so she could ask Linc about Michael. But if she's such a straight shooter, why not just be up front about it?

Anyway, I don't have a problem with the actors or the characters individually. I just don't think the writers should put them together simply because they can - the foundation of the relationship would be way too shaky. Just my opinion, though.

But, it's obvious that these two will get together (since Veronica and Linc will presumbably get back together and there are no other women on the show), so it's really a matter of how, when, where, etc.

[Watermelon]

And this is coming from someone who made an involuntary 'unghl' sound during the nude scene in The Human Stain.

Whoa whoa whoa. Back up a minute. There's a nude scene in that movie? How nude are we talking?

[ecaron]

Hee. Yes, a nude scene, but not fully. He's lying on his side, and you get a brief shot of his chest. But it's still quite impressive.

redrobin, everyone has a different pain threshold, but in my experience, smaller tattoos are fairly easy to get through. But full coverage like he has takes quite a bit out of a person. They break them up into sessions because there's just no way to go until it's finished, either for the artist or the subject. And there are areas, like the inside of the arm and the ribcage, that hurt far more than others.

I haven't lost any body parts, but my brother has lost the top segments of two of his fingers, and for him the shock of it was worse than the actual injury.

[truecrystal]

And while I think she is more intelligent than Veronica (because, really, just about everyone is on this show, including Linc), she really hasn't had enough screen time for me to say she's this great doctor.

I agree that we don't know how great of a doctor she is, but when I say I think she's smart I was talking more about her ability to read Michael, especially since there's no one else that can engage him on any sort of intellectual (let alone emotional) level.

Also, I like them, but I have no desire to see them together as happy, healthy couple. Not only because it'd be completely unbelievable, but also hella boring. I'm more drawn to the potential UST and drama that could come if they acknowledged or acted on any attraction they might have for each other.

[Pop Culture Freak]

Also, I like them, but I have no desire to see them together as happy, healthy couple. Not only because it'd be completely unbelievable, but also hella boring. I'm more drawn to the potential UST and drama that could come if they acknowledged or acted on any attraction they might have for each other.

I agree, to a point. The key to this situation is that they're not supposed to like each other, but they do. Remember George Clooney and JLo in Out of Sight? Now that was HOT because they weren't supposed to be together. And they didn't end up together at the end - but they were able to give into their desires. So if TPTB could work up something like that, I would accept it. But I agree that it's the UST that's the best here.

And that will continue when Michael saves her from the riot in the next episode. I think it will bring those feelings to the surface even more. I'm looking forward to it. This could become my favorite UST couple on TV! (Between those who have gone off the air - Scully and Mulder, Bosco and Yokas on Third Watch - and those which have cooled off - Josh and Donna on The West Wing - I need a new couple!)