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[eejm]

Dish out all of your love here for Eric Foreman (no, the other one).

Edited by eejm, Jun 9, 2005 @ 9:20 PM.

[digmom3]

I am just happy he got back into medicine after jumping in front of the train....

[Harrison Fjord]

Darn you, digmom3, I had just repressed that little tragedy!

My favorite aspect of Foreman is his tendency to seem like mini-House. Particularly his sneakers.

[DumbBrunette]

Hee, digmom3! And word on him being a mini-House, Harrison Fjord. He's got the snark, the arrogance, the trademark Arrogant Bastard Sneakers. All that's missing is for him to develop the Rubix's Complex, and to be more bitter.

[OT]Screw sleep. I just want to keep on posting all night long.[/OT]

[eejm]

I watched Mob Rules again last night, and was reminded of just how much I love Foreman in that episode. House tries to take Foreman off the case as part of his "diabolical plan" to fool everyone into thinking he (House) thought it was Foreman who ratted to Vogler. I just love Foreman's "Are you shitting me?" attitude when House tries to take him off the case, and Foreman's complete dismissal of it when House shows up in the lab later to question him about it.

I wonder if we'll get to see more of Foreman's own arrogant bastard sneakers next season, or any other evidence of him slowly turning into House 2.0?

[Meridian]

Jumping in front of the train? What? Is that what happened to Topher Grace's character on That 70s Show?

[Harrison Fjord]

No, it's a reference to ER, where Omar appeared as one of Benton's students. Benton was particularly harsh to him. A patient came into the ER, run over by an el-train, and everyone was wondering where Omar's character was, why wasn't he answering his beeper. Then they realized that the patient's beeper was going off.

Heartbreaking.

[DumbBrunette]

"Yep.

[OT]Eric, Meridian, went to Africa, because Topher is far better than what That '70s Show has become.[/OT]

Edited by DumbBrunette, Jun 9, 2005 @ 10:36 PM.

[mujer]

I believe I enjoy the Foreman/House work relationship the most -- as far as work with the ducklings. I find them to be very similar, and I would love to see them explore their relationship/similarities on a more personal level -- only a little bit (not much).

And yes. Foreman gives me fever.

Edited by mujer, Jun 11, 2005 @ 12:00 PM.

[Kiss My Grits]

I think that Foreman has become awesomer as the series has progressed. I love that he doesn't take any poo from House but at the same time seems to really care about his job and his fellow ducklings. Love how angry he was when he thought Cameron was fired. I also really enjoy the scenes where it is just he and Chase- the two of them have a great dynamic together.

Tee hee....we have a House forum now....still giddy...

[Levitate This]

Love the thread title. Definitely one of the best one liners.

Like others here I'm happy to see Epps survived the horrific and heartbreaking train tragedy to show up here trading quips and smarts with House and the other ducklings.

[NotYourAverage]

"Yes! So excited to see that line make the thread title! The patient look Foreman gives, followed by the "heh, nice one" little smile House makes afterward was fabulous!

I have no coherent thoughts at the moment concerning Foreman, but he is by far my favorite duckling. I love that he's usually the only one who isn't frightened to get all up in House's face. He is a brave, brave man.

[movable nu]

Must post to add to the Foreman love! [/fangirl shreak]

Of the ducklings, I think Foreman has shown the most murkiness of character. And I'm praying this is due to forethought on the writer's part rather than inconsistency.

Cameron has been awed by House and self-conscious about her role(s). Chase has been guarded about himself and a bit more sycophantic toward House. The way they exhibited those characteristics has changed, but they seem to be the same people.

Foreman seems to be the only ducking who's actually changed, i.e. - Histories for a one episode turn around. He's an arrogant wise ass, sees himself possibly/in danger of turning into House and Foreman can't decide if this is a good thing or not. He definately intrigues me the most.

And he brings the pretty.

[mujer]

OK, are we the only ones who adore Foreman? Who think that not only is he the most interesting and likeable duckling, but that he's freakin' fiiiiiiiine?

Come on people, where is the Foreman love?

Edited by mujer, Jun 11, 2005 @ 12:00 PM.

[flakewhite]

Foreman love dwells here. The problem with his being a more balanced person than everyone but Cuddy is that he doesn't stir up trouble as much as any of the others and the more twisted get greater attention.

[mujer]

Heh. Great point flakewhite!

[Lunete]

Foreman's my favorite, too. part of that may be because his reactions to House often make more emotional sense to me than Chase or Cameron's, but I also like him precisely because he doesn't have hang-ups. it does sort of make him a second class citizen in the world of television, which is unfortunate.

[Enigmatics]

I'll confess that I didn't like Foreman at first, but now, I really do like and appreciate him. Plus, I think he's smoking hot.

[DumbBrunette]

"Ditto. Okay, maybe not the smoking hot part. He really isn't my type in the looks department. But the character I've grown to like very much. I'm hoping we get some more insight into him next year.

Edited by DumbBrunette, Jun 11, 2005 @ 7:28 PM.

[Lizzim]

I also like him precisely because he doesn't have hang-ups.

He does have that tattoo on his hand (or, at least, I think that's what's on his hand). Not that I have an issue with tattoos, but I think they might have it there as an indicator of his troubled adolescence.

I like Foreman and at some point in the old thread, I posted a detailed treatise on why. Mostly it was a laundry list of things like his ongoing willingness to go toe-to-toe with House, his ability to wear clothes that don't hurt my rods and cones, the fact that he got "pussy" by the network censors, the fact that he spelled out a timeline in Detox that told me how old he's supposed to be, and at least a couple hundred other things. I do think that Histories implied that Foreman has some issues with the homeless, or at least a little bit of a dark side. I'm hoping that we see more of Foreman next season (though more Wilson and Cuddy are at the top of my list).

Edited by Lizzim, Jun 11, 2005 @ 8:01 PM.

[eejm]

his ability to wear clothes that don't hurt my rods and cones

Ha!! But how much fun would we be missing out on if we didn't have Chase's creative wardrobe to snark on, Lizzim?

Edited by eejm, Jun 11, 2005 @ 10:31 PM.

[deekay]

Foreman's my favourite duckling, and I expended a lot of energy defending him in the old forum. Now that my brain has shut off for the hiatus, I'm sure I won't be able to articulate why I like him well, but ...

I love that he tries to go toe to toe with House, even though he's not quite at his level yet. He's got a much better bedside manner than House, but doesn't care about the patients much more than House, so combined with his arrogance and skill, he's the most likely to develop into a mini-House. I love that he doesn't like House, but respects him anyway. I think he's had the most developed personality of all the ducklings from the beginning, and didn't get replaced by a pod person half way through the season, like Cameron and Chase.

[NotYourAverage]

He's got a much better bedside manner than House, but doesn't care about the patients much more than House, so combined with his arrogance and skill, he's the most likely to develop into a mini-House. I love that he doesn't like House, but respects him anyway. I think he's had the most developed personality of all the ducklings from the beginning, and didn't get replaced by a pod person half way through the season, like Cameron and Chase.

Good points, deekay. I think the fact that he doesn't overly care for the patients is what makes him such a great doctor. He doesn't overly identify with them and turn their diagnosis and care into a personal crusade. He can view their case objectively and dispassionately, and give them the best advice he can based on his opinions as a doctor, and not as their best friend. We constantly see Cameron over-identifying with the patients and their families and getting herself into trouble about it, and Chase is usually more interested in impressing House than caring for the patients, and so Foreman presents a nice balance.

And HOORAY for consistent characterization! It makes my nitpicky heart sing.

[mujer]

He does have that tattoo on his hand (or, at least, I think that's what's on his hand). Not that I have an issue with tattoos, but I think they might have it there as an indicator of his troubled adolescence.

Does anyone know if this tattoo is real or a fake? Curious to know if it is real and they maybe decided to use this as part of his "troubled youth" or it's fake (and using it for the same thing ... )?

[Lizzim]

Ha!! But how much fun would we be missing out on if we didn't have Chase's creative wardrobe to snark on, Lizzim?

Heh. Chase's wardrobe always provides an easy joke... but I guess that's a thought for the Chase thread, not the Foreman one. Foreman is a snappy dresser, IMHO, though.

I think the fact that he doesn't overly care for the patients is what makes him such a great doctor. He doesn't overly identify with them and turn their diagnosis and care into a personal crusade.

I think he cares, but he's able to maintain objectivity, which is important. I think this is contrasted nicely with Cameron in tomorrow's rerun of Maternity.

Does anyone know if this tattoo is real or a fake?

I gave it a few minutes on Google, then gave up. There seemed to be information pointing in the general direction of Omar's having tattoos, but I couldn't confirm that generally, nor could I confirm specifically that he has a tattoo on his hand. (And, of course, it's never safe to assume that, just because something is on the internet, it's true). It's a detail that I'll have to watch out for in summer reruns. It's interesting to me that House hasn't snarked on it so far, particularly when he stabbed Foreman in the hand with a needle in Histories.

they maybe decided to use this as part of his "troubled youth" or it's fake (and using it for the same thing ... )?

... or if it's real, perhaps it's too much trouble to cover it up, week after week, when it's not really inconsistent with Foreman's character?

Edited by Lizzim, Jun 13, 2005 @ 2:41 PM.

[outofthebox]

the fact that he got "pussy" by the network censors

HA! That made my day. After I heard that my whole family exchanged glances like... wow, how did that happen.

I love that he doesn't like House, but respects him anyway.

That is probably my favorite part about him. He recognizes that House is a great doctor but can still see his faults.

What I really like about him he that he isn't afraid to stand up for what is right, even if House doesn't agree with him. Like in DIYD even though he was wrong he wouldn't back down. Also in DIYD he went to Cuddy which may seem like a bit or betrayal to House, but he showed the he doesn't hero-worship him like Cameron

[aquarian1]

After reading up on Foreman here, I had to dig up an old post I made on Foreman. Here's just some of it, the whole post is here.

He seems to be able to see people as people - not just boss, or mentor or board member, etc - so he doesn't get hung up on the titles. I think he respects the "chain of command" but doesn't get hung up with having the title effect how he perceives someone as a person. And because of that he doesn't act any differently around House/Cuddy/Volger than around the other ducklings or ... anyone else. He respects different aspects of each person - e.g. House's skills as a doctor and intelligence, but won't blindly support him if he thinks he made a bad call. And he's not worried about contradicting his *supervisor* (oh my god, I can't speak up because it's House). Because of this he also seems to be able to take their quirks, and negative aspects, in stride too. If House snarks on him, he's not upset that his supervisor is picking on him or questioning him, he knows it's just part of who House is.

Something I found interesting - during "the speach", he seems to be standing off by himself, ducking in the doorway or hallway or something. He wasn't seated with the others. I'm sure that means something, I just don't know what. Maybe it's because he saw through Volger's antics and BS too and was just there to see how House would handle it. Maybe he didn't want to sit at the table with the other "pussys" that wouldn't stand up to Volger or House. Or maybe he just got up to get a drink and hadn't made it back to the table yet.

[mujer]

OK, I just posed this same question in the Cuddy thread and thought I'd do it here: We all want to know much more about Foreman, want to see more of him, want them to expand more on what we do know. But what do we hope/want to find out about him?

[movable nu]

Good questions mujer! Hmm....

I'd like to know who is the special person that kept Foreman from going back with his former colleague in DNR. Is Foreman actually seeing someone, or was he just covering for wanting to stay with House?

Also, what was the nature of Foreman's B&E juvenile record? He grew up in a rough neighborhood, but his parents are still together. I'd think that provided some sort of familial stablity. Unless not. So was the B&E a blip of adolescent rebellion that he soon got over, or was he in some sort of downward spiral that somehow he pulled out of?

Thirdly, how did he get hooked into playing Santa at the end of Damned if You Do? He's not exactly portly. Does he have some connection to the Peds department?

Edited for sasafrackin' grammar!

Edited by movable nu, Jun 15, 2005 @ 9:14 AM.

[mujer]

Argh! I haven't seen any of the episodes you've mentioned, movable nu. I knew nothing of these (except for the B&E and seeing someone). Thanks! I can't wait to catch them on reruns (and DVD)!

Edited by mujer, Jun 14, 2005 @ 1:04 PM.