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[Aatrek]

Skintight catsuits are all the rage for today's hip ex-cyborgs.

[TimeMonkey]

I loved Seven, and not because of the catsuit. I thought she was an interesting character with a talented actress.

[BanjoSteve]

I loved Seven, and not because of the catsuit. I thought she was an interesting character with a talented actress.

Agreed here. Seven of Nine is easily one of the most interesting characters in Trek. And while Jeri Ryan is quite fetching, I could never get past the robotic coldness of Seven's character enough to find her attractive. Anyway, I wonder if Seven of Nine was Trojan horse of sorts for UPN. I imagine the UPN brass told Bermaga to dump Jennifer Lien and add a newer, hotter actress to sex up the show. But the Voyager PTB hired the hottest actress they could find who could also act, and made a great character out of her. Sort of like making lemonade out of the lemons of network interference.

[Unusual Suspect]

I just wish she'd lost the catsuits. "Relativity" showed she could rock a Starfleet uniform, and it would've been good development for the character, to show her integration into the crew. But I always liked Seven.

[AgentX]

"Relativity" showed she could rock a Starfleet uniform, and it would've been good development for the character, to show her integration into the crew.

Agreed, I always thought she looked her best in that episode, something about the solid colours and lines of the uniform, although the blue catsuit wasn't without its advantages.

I liked her character and even the fact that apparently she could do anything didn't sour me on her, the one thing that left me questioning her was the involvement in C/7. Seriously, what the hell was that? She and the Doctor were a much better pair.

[Bitterswete]

I loved Seven, even though I knew I was being played when it came to the character. She was hot, she wore skimpy outfits, and they tried to give her as much screen time as possible for those reasons. But the character was great, and the actress pulled it off. If not, I woulda been the first ranting and raving about Seven being shoehorned in, and she was obviously getting so much focus for the T&A factor. (There's no other exscuse fot those cat suits.) But it just so happened that I ended up loving Seven's character more than any other, so didn't mind why she was getting so much screen time. I do joke about how it became The Seven of Nine Show, and how the other characters' development stalled for that reason, which was too bad. But, I coulnd't help it, I just liked Seven.

[areacode212]

It's nice to know there are so many other Seven fans here. She was easily my favorite character on this show. Sure, the tight catsuit was a factor, but Jeri Ryan's great acting job made sure that Seven didn't just remain a T&A guilty pleasure for me. I actually wish that her physical appearance had remained more Borg-like for a while longer (Ron Moore said something similar). Voyager had so much wasted potential, but this character was one of the bright spots that was used really well.

Edited by areacode212, Feb 20, 2005 @ 7:07 PM.

[OneWomanArmy04]

Completely agree. Jeri really transcended the T&A factor, and created quite a wonderful character, IMO. One of my favorite Seven scenes is the little moment at the end of One Small Step where she quietly murmurs the baseball result to the dead astronaut. Jeri totally owned that scene, and that ep. My only regret is how she became sorta the shiny new toy of Voyager and took over the show for quite a while, IMO.

[RiverThames]

Amusing off-the-show bit: last night's L&O:CI took it's story right out of Jeri Ryan's sex club divorce scandal. Sure, it had the standard "not based on any real people" disclaimer, but when they read off the divorce deposition it was, like, word-for-word, what Jeri had said in hers.

[EnglishMuffin]

Jeri really transcended the T&A factor, and created quite a wonderful character, IMO.

Absolutely. She looked fantastic but there was so much more to Seven than that; she even made the ridiculous catsuits a non-issue. I think Jeri Ryan did a really great job with her. I really like her dynamic with Janeway, which to me comes over as mother-daughter, and the way she related to B'Elanna and Tuvok.

[HouseofJudith]

I was upset when they canned Jen Lien's character and came up with a former Borg. It was almost a joke... TNG had a Klingon turned Starfleeter, so lets give Voy a Borgified Fleeter. But then I fell for the character. Her struggle during the de-borgification process, her fight with Janeway in the Brig, demanding to return to the collective. The final scene when the Doctor shows off his "creation", the silver catsuited blond Borg who stood quietly taking direction from her new Queen... er.. Captain. "Red." "What?" responded Janeway when she turned back to her newest crewman. "The girl you spoke of (Annika Hansen), her favorite color was red." The red shouldered, auburn haired Captain smiled one of her 10,000 watt smiles and walked away. Seven took a page from Worf's TNG playbook and did it 50 times better! Lemonade indeed!!!!!

[chortle]

I respectfully disgree. Jeri Ryan never transcended the T & A factor. Now, I think she did some very good work as an actress; much better than she did, or was given the chance to do, on "Boston Public." But transcend the T & A?!? Meryl Streep is not that good an actress. Not even if she had just feasted on Jodi Foster's heart.

[Pooki]

Seven (I typed ‘Sven’ accidentally at first - Seven's Swedish cousin, Sven Of Nine?) has to be one of my favourite characters, and I'm not saying that because I'm swayed by the T&A, since I'm not at all into ‘T’ if you know what I mean, but because I really liked Jeri Ryan's performance. In fact, whenever a re-run of Voyager comes on, I'm always a little disappointed if it's an episode that's pre- her name being in the credits.

I liked her interactions with the other characters, especially the Doctor (I really liked ‘Someone To Watch Over Me’, although I know some people didn't), who I'd much rather have seen her pairing off with than with Chakotay.

I think one of my favourite things about Seven though has to be her ‘Elaborate.’ or ‘Quantify.’ type instructions with the raised eyebrow.

[TimeMonkey]

Seven (I typed ‘Sven’ accidentally at first - Seven's Swedish cousin, Sven Of Nine?) has to be one of my favourite characters, and I'm not saying that because I'm swayed by the T&A, since I'm not at all into ‘T’ if you know what I mean, but because I really liked Jeri Ryan's performance.

ITA, my love of Seven is all about the acting, not the T & A.

[cuiusquemodi]

Sven of Nine... great. Now I'm going to be chuckling to myself all day.

[meganishki]

Oh lord...whenever anything comes on TV that Jeri Ryan's in, I'll turn to my husband and he'll invariably say something about how "she's just not as hot without the Borg implants..."

I married a strange, strange man...*shrugging*

[Make It So]

She is getting up there. But she wasn't too shabby at all as Seven of Nine. I do think the Borg implants did mask a few cranial issues, though. I mean without them, she could almost be cast as one of the Khannabees on Enterprise.

Edited by Make It So, Mar 25, 2005 @ 10:04 AM.

[Maleficient]

Can someone explain Seven's bridge station? Whenever Voyager was in a confrontation involving blown panels and sparks, Seven miraculously appeared at a miniature station behind Janeway and Chuckles and took over Tuvok's tactical roles. Was this just a way to bring more Seven in (not that the show needed more Seven, but hey! T&A)? I liked Seven- she was my favorite character, but I liked Tuvok too, and with the advent of the second tactical station, he got less screen time, if that was possible.

[TimeMonkey]

Can someone explain Seven's bridge station?

Technically Seven is not an actual bridge member however she is capable of working at any station that needs working. Remember when she ran the ship on her own for like a month? She's the ultimate replacement character.

[Cleo256]

That extra station behind the captain's chair was weird. Seven was the only character that I remember seeing use it, except in "Unimatrix Zero" when so many characters were busy elsewhere that they had Neelix(!) filling in there.

[BanjoSteve]

Her official job was Astrometrician, so I suppose that station had something to do with that (or could be configured that way on a moment's notice). The only time I really remember her using it was in Timeless. Wasn't she inputting course corrections or something? Oh wait, or was she using Kim station on the bridge and he was on the Flyer? I give up.

[HouseofJudith]

I seem to recall B'Elanna also using that station at the end of "Dark Frontier II", when Chakotay was in charge of Voyager. It was the scene where Voy is awaiting the return of Janeway/Tom/Tuvok/Seven in the Delta Flyer. Seven frequently used the station, and the one I recall clearly now is the beginning of "Dark Frontier I" when she enters the bridge and hears Janeway utter words uncannily like her parent's when they first encountered the Borg.

[WannaBeBad2]

I seem to recall B'Elanna also using that station at the end of "Dark Frontier II"

Interesting. Did Voyager have a defined engineering station? I'm trying to remember. Either she sat near the front to the side of Paris, or maybe that central panel was a back-up engineering post that could take on extra functions.

[BanjoSteve]

The engineering station was off to the side, against the wall.

[Cleo256]

Yeah, you don't see it very much. It's probably most memorable as the place where B'elenna and Janeway were killed in "Before and After".

Astrometrics was a very neat room, where Seven spent much of her time (trying to get back to the topic).

[Curare]

At the risk of sounding stupid what is astrometrics? It seems she just spent her time analyzing bodies and anomolies in space. Shouldn't she have had a staff or something.

[TimeMonkey]

Shouldn't she have had a staff or something.

She did. In the episode where Janeway takes her misfit crewmembers on an away mission Seven mentions that her staff had room for improvement as well, and I believe one of the misfits was from her area.

[Curare]

No shit. I'll be damned.