48 Hours Mystery
Posted Apr 23, 2012 @ 2:53 PM
I don't know if the son killed his step mother or she killed herself. But I just can't see a motive for the son to kill her when she was leaving the next day. Also how was he to know she would be in the closet? Or do they think he killed her in his father's bed and moved her? I can't imagine it would have cost the father much in a divorce - weren't they married for less than a year? No motive for either of them as far as I can see.
The woman was obviously disturbed - the mother even said she slept in a closet when she was upset. She had a history of depression and reckless behavior and had called the mother in law three times the day she died to say she couldn't stand losing her husband. Not to mention the pity sex.
I don't blame the family for suing Ann Rule. She is a high profile person and many would take her word that the son killed his step mother even though there is no evidence that he did.
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But you are supposed to be innocent til proven guilty and there is no more evidence to say he killed her than there is that she killed herself.
Posted Apr 24, 2012 @ 6:58 PM
Posted Apr 26, 2012 @ 11:06 AM
I found it hard to believe the husband did not know if his wife was right or left handed.
At first I did, too, but then the more he talked the more his self-absorption became apparent.
Posted Apr 29, 2012 @ 9:10 AM
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Posted May 6, 2012 @ 5:50 PM
I was confused by last night's case. The police took the death threats seriously enough to set up video surveillance of the mailbox but did not trace where the emails are coming from until after the family was murdered.
It wasn't offically the police it was his neighbor who is a cop that set up the camera. I got the impression he did it to help out and see if they could catch the letter writer in the act.
Which brings to mind why weren't the emails traced earlier? Wasn't he getting them for months before the murders? You would think the lady (can't remember her name) he worked for would be concerned for her own safety and her people would have investigated it. Very strange and of course not enough information given in the broadcast to know why.
That being said, what a monster he must be. How he could strangle his wife and two young boys like that. He even spray painted his yougest son's bed getting some of the paint on his DEAD CHILD. That is pure evil.
And what an idiot. How did he think he would get away with it. If he was security won't he have better knowledge of how they can track people and trace email addresses?
What a sad sad story and I feel for the wife's family.
Edited by gaPeach, May 6, 2012 @ 5:52 PM.
Posted May 7, 2012 @ 11:25 AM
Posted May 7, 2012 @ 12:19 PM
But what could the children have prevented him from doing?
They would have prevented him from living like a carefree, swinging bachelor with no responsibilities other than to satisfy his own selfish desires. You're thinking like a decent human being with a soul (in the spiritual and/or philosophical sense - whichever definition fits best with your worldview), so of course you would ask that question. He isn't a decent human being. They got in his way, so they had to go. Plus, he scores all kinds of sympathy from people who think some outsider murdered his entire family. It's selfish, narcissistic, sociopathic, take your pick.
Posted May 7, 2012 @ 8:54 PM
After further thought, I'm going to contradict my earlier statement. The most head-shaking parts of these shows are the wives who know their husbands want to kill them and yet they're determined to stay in the marriage, because by golly they're going to make this marriage work, presumably right after they work through the whole "he wants to kill me" phase. But they'll leave a note or a message with a friend to let the police know whodunnit after they die, just in case, you know, he doesn't ever get past that awkward phase. Are you kidding me?? I do not get it.
Posted May 13, 2012 @ 3:39 PM
What a bizarre and sad story. I feel for Robert's family. While I'm not sure that I would have been willing to convict Toby based on the evidence provided last night, he set off my alarm bells pretty early on. He just couldn't seem to contain that perma-smirk, and the cell phone records and lack of a substantiated alibi certainly didn't help him.
Posted May 13, 2012 @ 4:44 PM
It was odd that the amount was the exact amount that the father had given the mother. And what was up with the conversation Robert had with his hairdresser?
Posted May 14, 2012 @ 8:15 AM
I hope the jury was given more info that we were on the show. I would not have been able to convict Toby with the evidence they gave us. I didn't like the guy. But that doesn't make him guilty. I was not convinced he was on the phone in that toll photo. Plus why would he make a ransom call while at a tool booth?
I agree. It was a very weak case to me, based upon what info we were given; but I hope that the producers wanted to keep more of the "mystery" there and that we weren't shown more damaging info. I couldn't tell what the hell he was doing in the toll booth. I didn't like the guy either, and he certainly seemed almost sociopathic with his blase attitude, but that doesn't necessarily make him a murderer.
Posted May 15, 2012 @ 8:51 PM
Posted May 21, 2012 @ 10:14 PM
In other previous episode news, Nanette Johnston, the Orange County woman accused of orchestrating the murder of fiancee Bill McLaughlin, was convicted about a month ago for the crime and was just sentenced to life without parole a few days ago. Here is the link for those interested:
Also, I thought this week's episode, the Live to Tell one with Isabella and the home invasion, was very well done. Her victim statement was one of the more compassionate ones I've ever seen, which really surprised me. My heart goes out to her, her boyfriend, and everyone in her boyfriend's family.
Posted May 22, 2012 @ 2:38 PM
I hope Isabella heals. She probably saved everyone else even though the young mom lost her life. Had she not fought back the entire family--including the little boys--would have probably been herded into the basement & murdered, just like in the Harvey family of Richmond case.
Officer Lovinda WAS a hero. I hope she has as happy a life as possible. (As the two asailants rot first in prison, then in hell).
Posted May 23, 2012 @ 2:18 PM
Posted Jun 6, 2012 @ 10:32 PM
Posted Jun 7, 2012 @ 12:41 PM
Maureen is pretty bland, but she was almost good when interviewing the obvious killer during the newest "Facebook Detectives" episode. I liked when the killer first claimed that 15 SUVs were chasing her, and then than that a police SWAT team with machine guns stormed her house. That lady was nuts.
Posted Jun 8, 2012 @ 10:29 AM
Posted Jun 8, 2012 @ 11:52 AM
I'm almost positive he's killed before.
BWAH! Too funny.
I love Keith. If he turns out to be a killer, I hope he gets to narrate the 48 Hours episode that features his crime. Keith asking the questions. Keith answering the questions. Gold!
Posted Jun 9, 2012 @ 4:55 PM
Thank you! I think of Bill Hader now, too. Keith kinda creeps me out.
I can tolerate Keith Morrison despite seeing/hearing Bill Hader doing the creepy voice
Posted Jun 9, 2012 @ 8:05 PM
Keith kinda creeps me out.
dude looks like a cadaver to me.
Edited by Patsy Stoned, Jun 9, 2012 @ 8:05 PM.
Posted Jun 12, 2012 @ 7:43 AM