Larry Elder (yeah, the guy from Moral Court) preaches His Sermon from the Talk Show mount Monday through Friday.
He takes parents to task about not holding up their responsiblity. He gets on cheating spouses.
He's definitely pushing morality in daytime. I find myself agreeing with him more than I care to admit (I guess I'm getting old and crotchety!). But people really are dropping the ball as far as personal responsibility.
I've watched a few of the shows so far. He's had a few where guests who didn't agree with his comments came back on to voice their opinions. Unlike Dr. Phil, he didn't outright ignore their views...but he did state his opinion and let them state theirs.
(how ironic that the show is followed by jerry Springer! lol)
I know I'm not the only one.....
The Larry Elder Show
Started by
Gloworm
, Oct 13 2004 10:01 AM
11 replies to this topic
#1
Posted Oct 13, 2004 @ 10:01 AM
#2
Posted Oct 13, 2004 @ 1:21 PM
I caught this today. I'm not big fan of his. I don't really care for him or for his ilk (Dr. Laura) I think they both make valid points about parental responsibilities but I'm not a big of their methods. People fail to realize the enormaty of being parents. It be nice if people were more self-aware before they decided to have kids. Call people on their shit, don't get me wrong. But I don't think this format is the best way to do that. This show will get repetative and redundant, this is my main complaint about these kind of shows.
#3
Posted Oct 13, 2004 @ 10:07 PM
The TV show is better than his radio show because he lets the people talk and tries to get them some help. He's already done a couple of shows about the remarks Bill Cosby made.
Most of what he says is plain common sense, so it's hard to disagree with him. No, you shouldn't cheat on your wife. No, you shouldn't dress like a hoochie and break the dress code. No, you shouldn't let your 14 year old date a 23 year old bum.
He does try to help more than Jerry or Maury.A wild teen girl was living with her aunt and being disrespectful. He helped her enroll in beauty college and two stable teens were going to mentor her.
Most of what he says is plain common sense, so it's hard to disagree with him. No, you shouldn't cheat on your wife. No, you shouldn't dress like a hoochie and break the dress code. No, you shouldn't let your 14 year old date a 23 year old bum.
He does try to help more than Jerry or Maury.A wild teen girl was living with her aunt and being disrespectful. He helped her enroll in beauty college and two stable teens were going to mentor her.
Edited by mimsy61, Oct 13, 2004 @ 10:09 PM.
#4
Posted Oct 14, 2004 @ 10:00 AM
Yeah...he's very preachy. And does let others speak.
I can see where it would be a turn off for a majority of people.
Hopefully, I'm not turning into a raging conservative on the low. LOL.
It is hard to disagree with basic truths...which I think may be his point. It's all basic stuff...why not just do it? Why the excuses?
I can see where it would be a turn off for a majority of people.
Hopefully, I'm not turning into a raging conservative on the low. LOL.
It is hard to disagree with basic truths...which I think may be his point. It's all basic stuff...why not just do it? Why the excuses?
#5
Posted Oct 29, 2004 @ 9:26 PM
Caught this today. He was talking with Ruben Studdard about some kind of weight-loss thing that Ruben is going to do. Not a moment too soon either, because OMG.
Didn't watch more than a few seconds, because the show does appear quite pedestrian.
Didn't watch more than a few seconds, because the show does appear quite pedestrian.
#6
Posted Jan 9, 2005 @ 9:13 AM
Bump.
#7
Posted Jan 9, 2005 @ 10:48 PM
Why?
I saw a couple of these, at the end of the year. I'm not impressed. It's rather dull, and Elder is not really all that personable as a host. Which is odd, because other conservative radio hosts tend to be some of the most charismatic people around. Ignorant, but interesting to watch.
I saw a couple of these, at the end of the year. I'm not impressed. It's rather dull, and Elder is not really all that personable as a host. Which is odd, because other conservative radio hosts tend to be some of the most charismatic people around. Ignorant, but interesting to watch.
Edited by mbridgii, Jan 9, 2005 @ 10:49 PM.
#8
Posted Jan 20, 2005 @ 10:31 AM
He's very bullying...but I've never got 'ignorant' from him.
The show is definitely his bully pulpit.
The show is definitely his bully pulpit.
#9
Posted Mar 8, 2005 @ 1:18 PM
I think he's ignorant in that way that most talk show hosts are. They either refuse to admit or give credence to the notion that bad parenting/caregiving is to blame for most problems. He's all too eager to bully in the name of finding a solution but never really goes after the parents for being awful and not raising their children right.
He basically says "I understand your mother has had ten boyfriends in the past two years and you've been treated like trash... but you have to stand up and be a decent, hardworking 13 year old MAN!" It's nice in terms of sentiment but in practicality, I'd say it's ignorant.
He basically says "I understand your mother has had ten boyfriends in the past two years and you've been treated like trash... but you have to stand up and be a decent, hardworking 13 year old MAN!" It's nice in terms of sentiment but in practicality, I'd say it's ignorant.
#10
Posted Mar 9, 2005 @ 12:29 AM
Did anybody catch the show today? I was very irritated by the segment with the biracial family, can't remember their names. I understand the boy was being bad and all, but his parents didn't seem to take any responsibility. The dad was admitting he used to beat his wife and kid, but it's OK because he took anger management classes and now he's a changed man. Therefore, his son should forgive, forget, and be good! Larry even agreed with him. He said to the son "The past is dead" and told him to get over it. I agree that what's done is done and you can't change the past but it's not that easy for some people to not let it affect them. There are people who can flat out forgive and forget and are fine, but I think the majority of people (I am one!) who have had those sorts of things happen in their lives need some sort of counseling to put the past behind them. I was disapointed that Larry didn't reccommend that they send their son for professional help. Hell, even the dad had to go to anger management classes so why do they think their son can just straighten up all on his own? Ridiculous!
ETA: When I reread that it sounded like I was saying I was abused like that kid. What I meant was, I can't put the past behind me very easily. I was never abused by my parents.
ETA: When I reread that it sounded like I was saying I was abused like that kid. What I meant was, I can't put the past behind me very easily. I was never abused by my parents.
Edited by itsmyhobby, Mar 9, 2005 @ 12:31 AM.
#11
Posted Mar 30, 2005 @ 3:36 PM
I saw that show itsmyhobby. i admit to being a fan of Larry Elder, though don't know why because I'm as progressive as they come. Must be his good looks...anyhoo...
I wonder how can a talk show solve deep seated issues that go back years and years and in some cases are passed on from generation to generation.
On the show you reference, I didn't get the impression that the dad was a "less angry" person. And yeah, Larry's right: unless the kid wants to repeat his parents' dysfunction, he'd better work through it. But I think they needed to go a step further and remind this kid that his parents problems/dysfunctions belong to them; unfortunately they're encroaching into his life.
"OK. I've gotten my shit together, so you have no more excuse to slack off." And Larry agrees with that. The "I went through this and I turned out OK" argument is always suspect for me because a lot of public people - perfectly functioning and all - cry themselves to sleep at night, can't get or maintain personal replationships, drive people from their lives, are closet alchoholics, sex addicts (hello, Bill O'Reilly), etc. Plus, like these people tell the full stories in ten-minute segments? Doubt it.
BUT - this is probably the mst therapy most of his guests get and will ever have the opportunity to get.
It's just LIFE ain't that simple. And you need a lot of therapy to identify and turn most problems around, not to mention formulate new habits to replace to old destructive ones. I speak from personal experience.
I've watched all his talk shows since January (I was on sickbay for a month so I caught up on my TV and reading) and well, I guess I've come away with two things: my life ain't so bad so I've stopped complaining, and, we live in complicated times and the answers that we seek just ain't as simple as standing up straight and using "sir" and "mam".
I wonder how can a talk show solve deep seated issues that go back years and years and in some cases are passed on from generation to generation.
On the show you reference, I didn't get the impression that the dad was a "less angry" person. And yeah, Larry's right: unless the kid wants to repeat his parents' dysfunction, he'd better work through it. But I think they needed to go a step further and remind this kid that his parents problems/dysfunctions belong to them; unfortunately they're encroaching into his life.
"OK. I've gotten my shit together, so you have no more excuse to slack off." And Larry agrees with that. The "I went through this and I turned out OK" argument is always suspect for me because a lot of public people - perfectly functioning and all - cry themselves to sleep at night, can't get or maintain personal replationships, drive people from their lives, are closet alchoholics, sex addicts (hello, Bill O'Reilly), etc. Plus, like these people tell the full stories in ten-minute segments? Doubt it.
BUT - this is probably the mst therapy most of his guests get and will ever have the opportunity to get.
It's just LIFE ain't that simple. And you need a lot of therapy to identify and turn most problems around, not to mention formulate new habits to replace to old destructive ones. I speak from personal experience.
I've watched all his talk shows since January (I was on sickbay for a month so I caught up on my TV and reading) and well, I guess I've come away with two things: my life ain't so bad so I've stopped complaining, and, we live in complicated times and the answers that we seek just ain't as simple as standing up straight and using "sir" and "mam".
Edited by alizoom, May 4, 2005 @ 12:07 PM.
#12
Posted Jul 13, 2005 @ 11:45 PM
bump
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