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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 11:08 PM

Just saw TMNT listed on CN at 4pm today--- not sure if it's been on at that time all week or for longer or if today was the first.


Course if it's the new show and has been on all week that means I've missed the episode I really wanted to see again, especially since it was on Fox at 8:30am last weekend and my tape decided to end 5 min (actually it was 2 min) from the scene I really, really wanted to see again. Oh well...
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Posted Jan 3, 2004 @ 12:58 AM

This week was a test run...it'll start in March from episode 1 if these episodes did well.
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Posted Jan 10, 2004 @ 11:30 PM

New episodes start next week! Thank God they aren't gonna make us rewatch Turtles in Space before we get the new ones. :)
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Posted Jan 17, 2004 @ 1:38 PM

Bumping this back up.

Not a bad episode, overall. I had flashbacks to Krang for some reason when the evil Utron was introduced. Also, the ancient Shredder? Nice follow-up on the whole "8th generation Ninja Master" thing Saki once brought up, but it might have been nice if his ancestor had dressed more period-appropiate. Oh well, still interesting.
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Posted Jan 17, 2004 @ 1:47 PM

Man I hope Shredder aint one of those brain guys? That would explain his age and abillity to put his head back on. But still. That'd suck.

I did love everyone laughing at Mickey and his repeated attempts at snatchin' the Samurai's food. Glad I taped it. I still don't buy that those Brain guys are good. Why the subterfuge? and why do those Matrix - lookin guys, need to turn on thier swords before they use 'em? It dose'nt seem to do anything special, like shoot electricity or anything.

p.s. how cute was the "MASTER SPLINTER!!" *hug*

Edited by skyegazer, Jan 17, 2004 @ 1:47 PM.

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Posted Jan 17, 2004 @ 10:02 PM

Woops, I missed it. Hadn't checked this thread in a while, didn't know when new ones would start. Maybe if I'm lucky, they'll start showing week-old episodes in the 8:30am timeslot again. It was nice that, during most of the first run of Season 1, I could afford to forget the show the odd week and then have two episodes to watch the following week.

Sounds like it was a good ep, back to the main arc and all.
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Posted Jan 18, 2004 @ 12:17 AM

Wish they had shown previews for next week though. It was a pretty good episode. For some reason I have a feeling that the Shredder from 700 years ago could be the evil Utrom--- mainly because we don't know what happened to the evil one except that he now had a body.


Yeah the Mikey with the food and him disrespecting the various warriors--- guess he may have had it coming.... nah!

Ok, first of all who is Baxter working for? Now we got a Triceraton on the loose in the sewers...


Not sure if the below is really a spoiler--- I guess it is if you didn't see the episode...

I am waiting to see how they deal with Mikey's injury. Yeah, Shred-head tossed him like a ragdoll, but that's happened to them before and they weren't critically injured. If they have him up and running around in the next episode, I'll be extremely disappointed-- what's the sense of Honeycutt mentioning that his vitals are critical, and Splinter saying that he's badly injured-- if they don't continue on from there.

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Posted Jan 24, 2004 @ 11:28 PM

I did like Raph's response when Mikey was back up and around, but I hate how Mikey went from badly injured and unconscious to basically 100% again--- though maybe we'll see differently in the big showdown with the Shredder next week... when hopefully the big secret about the Shredder is revealed--- like we don't know what it is.
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Posted Jan 31, 2004 @ 10:38 PM

Wooohooooo! I loved the shout out to the old series today! April in a yellow jumpsuit acting as a reporter for Channel 6 News. Of course her response to Leo(?) asking her if she's a reporter now. "In another lifetime maybe."


That was just too funny. And of course the big non-secret was revealed. Now the question is-- is the 'Shredder' really gone for good, this time?
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Posted Feb 1, 2004 @ 12:04 AM

The Channel 6 thing cracked me up. Plus, the in-joke when the Utroms were trying to escape:

Utrom #1: I hate walking on my tentacles!
Utrom #2: Shut up, Krang.

Shredder's probably not dead (or if he is, there's probably a few actual clones lying around like in the comics). After all, they don't really have too many villains left if he's out of the picture.
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Posted Feb 1, 2004 @ 3:15 AM

I missed the first two parts to this arc, but I saw the re-cap at the beginning of today's ep so I'm more or less caught up.

Some things I don't get or am wondering if they explained...
-Is there actually a human Oroku Saki, or was that just another robotic body that the evil Utrom used? Did the evil Utrom have a name?
-Wasn't the suit, or maybe not the Shredder's suit, but something resembling a body, pulled out of the ocean/river (Hudson river? Can't remember...I know they're in NY...let's just say it was at the docks).
-Was the special sword that the gang (or mostly just Leo and/or Splinter I think) used during the Return To New York arc ever explained?
-Who were the Guardians? Were they all just specially trained humans that the Utroms recruited? Were they enhanced in any way, beyond being given quality weaponry It implied that Splinter's master was one of them.
-Did it show what the stray Triceraton was up to in the first two eps? In this one we just saw him escaping into the shadows.
-Was this the same origin that Shredder had in the original comic books?
-What were the Utroms doing with Splinter in containment back in Search For Splinter? Were they healing him from the battle with Shredder or something?
How did Shredder's body repair so quickly in this ep? (like when he came back for seconds near the end of the ep) Or did the Utrom just hop into a spare?
-Did it explain how Baxter had gotten that way? Did Shredder's people perform surgery or was it implied that Baxter did it to himself?
-What was the Utroms' main goal on Earth? To track down the criminal Utrom?

I loved the yellow jumpsuit and the Channel 6 bit. This episode was non-stop.

Another 18 episodes to go. Think this series is pretty safe from cancellation? Fox hasn't had an animated hit like this in a while it seems.
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Posted Feb 1, 2004 @ 4:29 AM

Kris: Apparently there never was an Oroku Saki, not as a human anyways. The Utroms were transporting their most dangerous criminal back to the home world. They had zero interest in Earth until the Shredder-Utrom escaped and forced the ship down on Earth in 11th-century Japan.

The evil Utrom never had a name, per se, and his crime was never defined, except that it was some unspeakable offense to the Utroms. The Utroms figured out how to make robotic bodies, modeled on the humans they saw, and the evil Utrom figured out/stole the technology and created the Shredder persona. He used his robo-body's strength to form/recruit the Foot Clan ninja in the distant past and begin terrorizing Japan.

The Sword of Tengu was explained. Apparently, after the crash the Utroms focused on blending in until such time as human technology had advanced enough for them to get home. The evil Utrom figured he'd make the best of a bad situation and take over, and was opposed by Mortu, the Captain of the Utrom ship. He (the Shredder) had a sword-smith in 11th-century Japan forge a blade from some material stolen from the Utrom ship to use as a superweapon against the other Utrom. As for the body, that was explained, kind of. The Shredder's original robo-body was somehow knocked over a cliff into the ocean during his first battle with the Utrom using the Sword. The suit and the Sword were lost but the evil Utrom escaped into a replacement body. In the hologram the Turtles were responsible for sending the Shredder's first body into the drink, and it seemed to be implied that the Utroms did it in actual reality the first time.

The Guardians were originally formed from the crew of the Utrom ship. The Council they answered to were the ship's navigators, who were revered in Utrom culture. They apparently expanded/enhanced over the centuries. As for the rest: the stray Triceraton was never accounted for, no explanation for how Baxter ended up the way he did, and no firm explanation for what Splinter was doing in the containment tank, except apparently altruism.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had flashbacks to the early nineties when the jumpsuit and the Krang reference came out!

Edited by Mysteris, Feb 1, 2004 @ 4:36 AM.

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Posted Feb 1, 2004 @ 10:32 AM

Another 18 episodes to go. Think this series is pretty safe from cancellation? Fox hasn't had an animated hit like this in a while it seems.


From what I've heard, the show's already been renewed for a third season, even though they haven't started on any eps yet. So I'd say it's pretty safe from cancellation.
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Posted Feb 1, 2004 @ 2:24 PM

Ick! I knew they were gonna make Shredder an Utrom. But, I hoped it was a foiler. I didn't want to think they'd do soemthing so lame, as to take the Turtles coolest villian and turn him into thier lamest. Seriously who here missed Krang?
So now, instead of being some bad arse samurai, Shredder's just some sad lookin' little brain? Oooh, scary. After Turtles in Space and now this.

I hate to say it. But, I'm smellin' a Shark Jump.
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Posted Feb 1, 2004 @ 5:29 PM

There's a number of continuity errors here...why would a Utrom give a shit about Japanese culture? And a few weeks into living on Earth, he, as Shredder, was quoting ancient japanese stories about goblins...why? Not to mention the humanoid clones.

According to Peter Laird, Shredder was supposed to die in RtNY, but 4Kids wanted a recurring villian..."creative solution" is one way to put it.

CHECK THIS OUT:

TMNT anime based on the old toon-

http://www.scary-cra...ctare/tmntova1/

Edited by Clockstomper24, Feb 1, 2004 @ 5:32 PM.

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Posted Feb 1, 2004 @ 9:35 PM

Yeah, I'm still not sure how I feel about this new revelation about Shredder. Still better than the loser-version from the original toon at least. Have to wait and see how he's used in future storylines...

How do most of you feel about Shredder as the villain though? Do you think he's necessary as the long-lasting, never-dying (at least not until the end of the series) main opponent of the Turtles? Or should this new series change it up a lot more and rotate the rogues gallery frequently?

CHECK THIS OUT:

TMNT anime based on the old toon-

http://www.scary-cra...ectare/tmntova1


That's traumatizing. Why can't North American animated productions make the jump to Japan without being butchered? It's the same deal with the Transformers franchise--way less continuity and coherence than the various NA series (which are actually pretty strong in that department, especially Beast Wars & Machines), plus some sort of misguided bigger-and-more-bizarre=better assumption. It's only fair I guess. I'm sure we've butchered a bunch of their anime shows & movies.
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Posted Feb 1, 2004 @ 10:30 PM

Cardcaptors comes to mind. But the anime series is still pretty unforgivable. I think I actually timed the world's longest three minutes when I watched it, but I don't remember how long it was now.

I like a main opponent with mixing-- Shredder as the main, overreaching villian (though I'm not loving the Utrom thing) with lots of other bad guys interacting with and independent of him.
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Posted Feb 1, 2004 @ 11:16 PM

That is either the scariest or most hysterical thing I've ever seen. Love the combo old cartoony style mixed with anime style. Weird!

I like Shredder as the bad guy--- and especially in the new series since he's not a bumbling fool. On the old show occasionally I wished Shredder would win and quit whining. I don't mind a mix of bad guys-- it keeps things fresh, instead of rehashing the same plot over and over.
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Posted Feb 12, 2004 @ 4:50 PM

This needs a bump. So I'm bumping it.

The interdimensional ninja/samurai/whatever was chintzy. Agree? Disagree?
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Posted Feb 12, 2004 @ 10:59 PM

It twas rather lame, though I think those characters may come into play later on this season. From what I've read of the synopsis of this season-- all the players from the so-called filler episodes play a part in this season.


Wonder what this week brings...
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Posted Feb 13, 2004 @ 12:35 AM

The episode that should have aired this week will air on Saturday. "The Ultimate Ninja" was aired out of order.
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Posted Feb 13, 2004 @ 12:44 PM

i may be in the minority but i sure as hell miss rock steady adn beebop. I know they were goofs but i liked haveing other mutants on the show.
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Posted Feb 13, 2004 @ 1:30 PM

I doubt wel'll be sieng NY over run with Mutants, like in the other series. If we were, then Baxter would be a Fly right now. Poor S.O.B lookit all the crap Hun and Shredder put him through. I know he's a pompus jerk, but still. They just kept removing body parts till he was just a head. YIKES!

Anyway, out of all thsoe Mutants (There were alot too, The Frogs, Ground Chuck, that girl Raph liked), Mondo Gecko was the worst. Only because he moved right next to the Turtles but we never saw him again :lol

most likely the baddies will be more alien's and magic types.
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Posted Feb 13, 2004 @ 3:28 PM

Well, there may well be more mutants on the show later. If you check out the last part of "Secret Origins," there's a very quick shot of a large, rather familiar shadow. Apparently Leatherhead gets to be in the new show, hopefully without the annoying as hell accent.
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Posted Feb 13, 2004 @ 4:34 PM

Can't say I remember Leatherhaed. He a Gator?
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Posted Feb 13, 2004 @ 6:01 PM

Yes Leatherhead is the alligator mutant, also Triceraton will also be back.
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Posted Feb 13, 2004 @ 7:56 PM

I think having Shredder as the overarching villain, with other villains to keep it fresh, works. For instance, why don't we see more of Hun and his Purple Dragon gang? There's potential there, since Casey is so dead-set against them, and having the big stupid muscle be more than a dumb thug would be a nice change of pace.
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Posted Feb 18, 2004 @ 10:57 AM

The "episode of flashbacks" trick? What, did the writers just take a half-day or what?
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Posted Feb 18, 2004 @ 11:30 PM

Or maybe it was to catch up the people who got bored or tired of the Turtles in Space arc...

Yeah it was kinda lame, but at least it was 'new'....

Hopefully a decent episode will be on this week... maybe it'll be the Casey episode that sounded kinda interesting.
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Posted Feb 29, 2004 @ 9:43 PM

Ok can anyone tell me what happened in 'What's up Croc?' The cable guy came to install digital cable right as it started so I only saw a few minutes here and there.


And remember time change next week. It'll now be on at 9:30am EST with no early showing :(
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