Posted Jun 16, 2004 @ 10:06 PM
Posted Jun 16, 2004 @ 11:13 PM
Posted Jun 18, 2004 @ 3:01 PM
Posted Jun 18, 2004 @ 3:04 PM
That dress in the 2nd episode? I was thinking I would like it from the recap, because I'm hot for ren fair/little house style ("Girls Gone Mild" is my favorite fashion shoot theme), but that dress was totally hid. As in "eous."
Little Elyse, you make me wanna rub coal on your face and sing, "Consider Yourself," or whatever that song is called in "Oliver!" While dancing on the furniture and stuff.
Posted Jun 18, 2004 @ 3:16 PM
That dress in the 2nd episode?
Does anyone know what that was? I like clothes a little too much and follow fashion, but I've never seen anything like it. Hideous doesn't begin to describe it. Who would design, sell, or purchase such a thing?
Posted Jun 18, 2004 @ 3:29 PM
ETA: Are there pictures of this dress anywhere? I'm looking on UPN and not finding any there.
Edited by auntlada, Jun 18, 2004 @ 4:05 PM.
Posted Jun 18, 2004 @ 3:47 PM
Somebody can do better than me on this one...
Posted Jun 18, 2004 @ 4:01 PM
(but I sort of liked it on her....)
Edited by skagirl77, Jun 18, 2004 @ 4:01 PM.
Posted Jun 22, 2004 @ 10:56 AM
Posted Jun 22, 2004 @ 12:00 PM
LOVE LOVE LOVE her! Is she finally in med school?
I think she's still putting it off to model. I know she was in LA fashion week, anyway. (See 'where are they now? S1' for links)
Posted Jun 26, 2004 @ 2:43 PM
Posted Jun 26, 2004 @ 8:47 PM
And is she truly the first ANTM-er to land a cover? I thought someone (Katie? the name escapes me) was on the cover of Jane or something. But my mind is like a sieve.
And MatrixMouse, she is truly my favorite reality show contestant of all time too! I figure it's because I relate to her. Make of that what you will.
Edited by Lady Agnew, Jun 26, 2004 @ 8:48 PM.
Posted Jun 27, 2004 @ 7:24 PM
Posted Jun 29, 2004 @ 7:18 PM
*I'm beginning to think that it's this (ironic) detached distance Elyse has to the other girls that's being misidentified as snobbery/bitchery/etc.
Posted Jun 29, 2004 @ 9:59 PM
I'm kicking myself for not recording it. Elyse's narration is pure gold. Her line about Shannon's 'heatwave' coinage? Had me rolling.
Did anyone notice that she had a Bust magazine with her a few episodes ago? It was a foot or two away from her on the floor, so it could have been someone else's, but I doubt it.
I e-mailed her last year and she actually responded! She kindly accepted my inane gushing and told me about her future plans.
Edited by delinquent, Jun 29, 2004 @ 10:01 PM.
Posted Jun 29, 2004 @ 11:45 PM
Posted Jun 30, 2004 @ 2:55 PM
A friend of mine, who i consider very intelligent, found me annoying to talk to at first on topics of interest (for us it was politics, and corporations etc) because i was judgemental, and really not educated in those topics, and spoke more from feelings than from knowledge, but he talked to me more about it and i learned and improved myself. I think it would really have shown something about her intelligence if she sat down and talked with shannon or robyn about religion for example and had a debate about it, or even just to learn why they feel that way. With her "Intellect" the things that drive people should engage her curiosity, especially when it's on a topic she doesn't agree with or really understand.
Posted Jun 30, 2004 @ 4:53 PM
Posted Jun 30, 2004 @ 4:59 PM
Posted Jun 30, 2004 @ 5:25 PM
I forgot about her saying that it brings the worst out of her. In that case, I let up on a lot of what I've said before, though I think someone who was generally pleasant would have dealt with the situation better. I have deffinitely known a lot of smart people who can be catty. It comes from being naturally competitive. That's probably where a lot of her anger is coming from. The viperish things that she's saying is probably from a combination of immaturity and lack of empathy for other people. I keep forgetting how young these girls are.
Posted Jun 30, 2004 @ 6:01 PM
The viperish things that she's saying is probably from a combination of immaturity and lack of empathy for other people.
...or because she genuinely is taken aback by how inane the other people around her are. I talk maliciously about my former classmates at the drop of a hat for being dense. Behind-the-scenes gossipping about co-workers is a sanctioned recreation. The only thing one could reasonably roast Elyse on is she did what anyone else would do on national telly.
eta i.e. indiscretion is her greatest televised vice.
Edited by Plechazunga, Jun 30, 2004 @ 6:25 PM.
Posted Jun 30, 2004 @ 8:08 PM
And by the way, my 12 year old Harry Potter obsessed little brother would be intellectually superior to most of the contestants. Elyse is probably sick of having to dumb herself down just to make small talk with the girls, and if I was living with a bunch of bible bangers, I'd be pretty bitter too.
Posted Jun 30, 2004 @ 9:27 PM
Posted Jul 1, 2004 @ 2:52 AM
...or because she genuinely is taken aback by how inane the other people around her are.
If she can't handle being around stupid people, then she should stick to research and avoid clinical medicine. Otherwise she'll tear her hair out when dealing with patients who don't know what pills they're taking, who smoke even though their lungs are full of cancer, and who come to the emergency department every week because of anxiety issues which they mistake for life-threatening heart problems.
Just sayin'. I hate premeds who announce their intention of becoming a doctor at every opportunity, and act like their ass should be licked. Once you're in med school, you realize fast that it's a lot of hard work, a lot of following orders, and a lot of trying to communicate with people who aren't always so good at articulating themselves. If she can't handle being around a group of less intelligent models for a few weeks without having a meltdown, I see a future in radiology or in the laboratory for her.
ETA: By the way, I'm not sure the eating disorder was fake...she looks seriously unhealthy to me, and even her buddy Adrienne indicated that something was fishy. Obviously nothing can be proven based on the footage we saw, but I don't think we can say definitively whether she had one or not, just because Elyse and her boyfriend claim that she loves ice cream or whatever. I think I really began to loathe Elyse when she said that of course she couldn't have an eating disorder, because she was so dang smart and knew much more about eating disorders than any of the other girls. Well honey, if you did know a lot about eating disorders, you would realize that chicks like you often develop them. I know several female medical students who are extremely intelligent, driven, and arrogant who suffer from eating disorders. Just because you're smart and know what they are doesn't mean you can't have one.
Edited by Navelgazer, Jul 1, 2004 @ 3:01 AM.
Posted Jul 1, 2004 @ 2:25 PM
I loved her the first time around and now I think I've reached a point beyond love. Woody Allen might call it "loave" or "luff."
I like to call it....lurrrrve.
Elyse just cracks my shit up!!! I really think the group dynamic is coming into play here, she even said herself that the worst parts of her personality were coming out in the situation. I used to be in a performing group chock full o' ladies (one dude, the announcer) and I truly am mystified by my behavior there. One on one, I like all the women. As a group, it was like a 15-headed snake beast ready to strike!
I think most women have a somewhat tenuous relationship with food. Elyse seems to feel good about her body. I know, she wants to stay that skinny and that's a bit scary. At the same time, I have read a few studies showing how eating much less is actually good for you and can extend your life span significantly. She doesn't look like she's dying to me, or thin beyond her body's comfort level. I know Adrianne was worried too, but the fact that Robin used it as a way to make Elyse seem like she shouldn't be there (jeebus, how many fucking ways does she go out of her way to alienate Elyse?), makes me wanna say it isn't true. If I heard her say something like, "Oh, no, I eat cookies and pastries all day long," well, that's like the red banner for eating disorders. She seems aware that she eats little, and doesn't obsess all that much.
Posted Jul 1, 2004 @ 11:05 PM
I'm not naturally THAT thin, but while I was seriously ill for over a year I had the eating disorder accusation thrown at me repeatedly at work, by friends, and (most fun) by doctors who wouldn't listen to me. I got very defensive very fast about it. A lot of it was due to the tone and attitude people would take towards me when 'expressing concern'. They wouldn't ask a morbidly obese person standing next to me if they were a compulsive eater, but it was perfectly all right to them to grill me about what I ate, monitor me in public, and time the difference between my eating and my bathroom trips. And compare notes. I started yelling at people after a few months of that, too. And carrying around endoscopy pictures detailing why I was losing weight. And whipping them out. At restaurants. I could make anyone anorexic.
Am I smoking crack, or do I remember correctly (from back when season one first aired) that she said in an interview somewhere that she was interested in medical research, rather than clinical? She reminds me a lot of the MD/PhD candidates that I work with sometimes. Nice and articulate, but kind of removed from the real world.
And Tigris, people can really be that cruel. Not just for appearance, but also economic status, clothing choices, music choices, intelligence, independence, or anything that bucked the herd. My school had its own little group of Heathers, and they were truly evil people. To the point of physical assault. Of course, I've kept track quietly, and they've wound up pretty miserable. Schadenfreude is healthy, right?
Posted Jul 2, 2004 @ 9:53 AM
Ah, middle school. What hell that was. I was picked on mercilessly in middle school, and it didn't realy stop until I ditched the coke bottle glasses for contacts , started dressing "trendy," and my figure came in. Remembering the hurtful things people said to me in middle school about the way I looked make me look forward to my high school reunion...
Did that ever happen to people in middle school? having the good looking people pick on the not so goodlooking people? I've never seen that except on tv. some people weren't as popular or didn't have many friends, though it tended to be because of their lack of hygeine (seriously! i remember a few, and that was the only reason i could think of) but even they were treated nicely at least.
More on subject, caffeine, I know how you feel about people questioning whether you have an eating disorder. When I went hyperthyroid for the first time, I dropped 20 pounds and was pretty skeletal. My mom kept accusing me of being anorexic, and it drove me nuts trying to explain to her that I was losing weight on purpose. I really empathize with Elyse. Even though I've gained the weight back, my eating philosophy is like Elyse's: I eat when I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. And I've had quite a few friends make mean-spirited remarks about how I "never eat." It gets old, fast.
Elyse is definitely my fave. Her intellectual superiority can a bit tiring, but she definitely appears to be the smartest of the bunch, and definitely the most snarky.
Posted Jul 2, 2004 @ 2:58 PM