Richard Hatch won because he randomly picked a better number than Kelly did.
Greg has said that that whole thing was an act and that he was voting for Richard the whole time.
Your idea is an interesting one, neplusultra. I would put it in my "it would be cool if they tried this for one season and saw what happened" pile. Heck, maybe even if they didn't tell
the finalists that it would be an IC and not a jury vote. But if it became a regular feature, I just don't know what it would do to the game. Players' perceptions of their own and others' social abilities tend to differ more widely than their perceptions of their own and others' physical abilities. Which is to say, last season, Alicia didn't target Kim because she misperceived that she could beat her in front of the jury. And you can never truly know if you're more popular than somebody else. But you can sure know if you're more athletic. If it all came down to challenge prowess, of course
Alicia would have moved on Kim, because even Alicia wasn't delusional enough to think she'd win a challenge between the two of them. In a season where you were playing not for jury votes, but to be up there in the end with someone you can beat in a challenge, I think everyone's sole preoccupation would be voting out who was objectively more athletic than them.
If you're up there with the people from Cook Islands, there might be some debate over who'd be tougher in front of a jury between Yul and Parvati, but there'd be no debate about who's toughest in challenges: everyone would want to get rid of Ozzy. Then everyone would want to get rid of Yul, because he's obviously second-strongest. Then Adam. And so on.
So let's say it proceeds like that. Every possible immunity-challenge threat is out, and you've got a final five of, from the weakest in challenges to the least-weak in challenges:
2. Cao Boi
3. Sekou-3b. Flicka (tied)
5. Brad (who's survived by winning eight consecutive immunities against the dregs that are left).
Everyone wants Billy with them in F2, or Cao Boi, if they can't get Billy, because they're the most beatable two. Then suddenly, Flicka flukes into an F5 immunity win over Brad. Brad says to Sekou and Flicka, "Jeez, this is heading toward a Billy-Cao Boi F2! We'd better take them out!" And they know he's right. They know their chances of making F2 are best if they take one of those two out. But they also know they can't win the game if Brad's in it; the only people they can beat in a challenge are Billy and Cao Boi. They can't even bet on beating each other. It's in Sekou and Flicka's long-term best interests to take out Billy, because he's the one everyone will want to go to FTC with...but short-term, they've got to take out the one remaining guy who can beat them in a challenge, because otherwise, they're playing for second-place to that person. They take Brad out. They have to.
F4, Sekou wins immunity. He knows that if Flicka wins the next immunity, she won't take him to the end; he's just won one, and is Flicka's last remaining threat. Flicka goes home 3-1.
F3 challenge, here are the possible outcomes:
1. Sekou wins the challenge; eliminates Cao Boi, because he thinks he'll have an easier time beating Billy.
2. Cao Boi wins the challenge; eliminates Sekou, because he thinks he'll have an easier time beating Billy.
3. Billy wins the challenge; like Lill in Pearl Islands, he knows he'll lose at F2, so he takes to FTC (more like FIC in this case) whoever he'd rather lose to. Sekou or Cao Boi wins the season based on being a)., one of the worst three at challenges, and b)., being better liked than the other by the person who was the very
worst at challenges.
Only one of these options factors in the social game at all, and it factors it in in the most limited way possible. I think that would be a terrible
game/show. Now, it's entirely possible that the change you've described wouldn't lead to the game changing so drastically. I'm not saying that would
happen for sure. And who'll win an immunity challenge is never guaranteed---show of hands, who bet on Kim in Africa against the reasonably-fit reasonably-young dude and the professional athlete?
I would like to see F2-with-an-F3-endurance-challenge brought back, because you're 100% right: they're won by endurance and mental strength, and that's what we should be measuring at that point.
I wanted suggest maybe sometime there does not have to be this controversial character like Colton was this season, and then Alicia and Colton, and then even Alicia.
I'm with you, musica! I feel like Survivor used to be a bit more of a morality play. I still think Lisi from Fiji was worse than Colton---someone who calls a black man "ghetto trash" versus someone who thinks black people don't know how many zeroes are in a million, it's a tossup at best. But the editing went out of their way to make Lisi look a)., stupid, b)., objectively
obnoxious (again, her snorting and her weird voices and stuff was way more over-the-top in terms of obnoxiousness than Colton), c)., really bad at "Survivor", at all times. Whereas he gets fifteen minutes at the results show: "Look how cute he is! He's sorry, kind of! His mom still loves him, and so does Blossom!" It's not just that there are villains; there have always been villains. It's that they're treating their villains like antiheroes these days. I hate it.
Edited by Yogurt Baron, May 19, 2012 @ 1:43 AM.