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Posted Feb 25, 2004 @ 7:24 AM

HBO's new show Deadwood starts soon, and I can't wait myself. Hopefully, it won't turn out to be just another show about dirty people in the old days. I mean, it's right up Aaron's alley, but still. Has anyone heard anything more concrete about what it's going to be about?

For anyone that hasn't heard of it yet, it's set in the Old West, in a town called Deadwood. So far, it looks interesting, but I'm still waiting for HBO to add it to its site. It starts Sunday, March 21st at 10 pm.

I watched the special that aired yesterday, Feb 29. So far, so good. It's set in a town that actually existed, Deadwood, in the Black Hills. It was a goldmining town that had an influx of thousands of people all at once, because supposedly there was gold in them thar hills. People were discouraged from going there, because the claim land was on Indian territory; the Indians themselves didn't want them there, either. Deadwood got a reputation as being more or less lawless, and it's going from there. The big characters are a former sheriff named Bullock, a saloon owner, pimp, and all around baddie named Swearengen, and ... Bill Hickock. and Calamity Jane. The last two make me worry, but supposedly they're trying to base this in reality as much as possible. I'll still give it a shot.

Edited by JuniperBerry, Mar 1, 2004 @ 6:10 AM.


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Posted Mar 3, 2004 @ 6:53 AM

So far, it looks interesting, but I'm still waiting for HBO to add it to its site

It's on there now.

Any show with Larry, even without his brother Daryl and his other brother Daryl, is worth a look.

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Posted Mar 3, 2004 @ 7:01 PM

I'm a big poker nut, and it looks like card playin' is a central theme of the show, so I'm excited. I can't wait to see how they handle Wild Bill Hickock and the origin of the "dead man's hand".

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Posted Mar 3, 2004 @ 8:59 PM

iluvrupert right there with you. Did you see the poker contest HBO is running to promote the show? 6 winners will be flown to Vegas to play, and the winner of that game gets flown back to Vegas again in April to play in the World Poker Championship.

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Posted Mar 9, 2004 @ 4:50 PM

Deadwood looks great from what I have seen (the "Making of" and the ads). Someone already posted a link to the HBO site where there is a ton of information about the show, which premiers March 21 at 10:00 pm.

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Posted Mar 9, 2004 @ 5:37 PM

FYI: Deadwood, South Dakota is alive and well. I visited there during my cross-country RV trek a couple years ago, but was a bit disappointed. I guess I was expecting some historic restoration (like Williamsburg, VA) but all I found was a touristy town with a casino on every block.

Back OT: Deadwood the show sounds interesting, and I imagine I'll watch some of it - especially since I got bored with The L Word.

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Posted Mar 15, 2004 @ 10:53 AM

I can't decide whether or not it looks good. I will give her the old college try for a few weeks and then make a decision. But, honestly, anything with Powers Boothe just makes my day. Loved him as Curly Bill in Tombstone, I hope he plays western along those same lines again............Yee ha!!

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Posted Mar 15, 2004 @ 11:54 AM

I can't decide whether or not it looks good.


Almost anything with Tim Olyphant, Keith Carradine, Ian McShane and/or Powers Boothe looks good to me! (LOL)

Edited by Slashgirl, Mar 15, 2004 @ 11:54 AM.


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Posted Mar 16, 2004 @ 9:42 AM

This is from my local newspaper, today's issue (3/16/04), I couldn't find a direct link to the AP story, so I will paraphrase. [They] quoted Olyphant (yummy factor x2).

Olyphant plays marshall-turned-businessman Seth Bullock. The show does not follow convential romantic notions of the early wild west. Olyphants direct quote is read thusly "Everything you knew about television westerns goes out the window with this show".

The show focuses on the brutal realities of everyday frontier life.


Okay I definitely have to watch now, I am intrigued.

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Posted Mar 16, 2004 @ 10:40 PM

Brad Dourif is in it, which means I'm there. Jeffrey Jones too, although the whole child pornography thing makes me less excited about seeing him in stuff.

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Posted Mar 16, 2004 @ 11:19 PM

I'm pretty excited about this show, I'm a westerns junkie. Is TwOP re-capping it? I hope so, my HBO crack is wearing thin with SaTC over and SFU and Carnivale taking so long for new seasons. I hope this is good.

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Posted Mar 17, 2004 @ 7:49 AM

I'd love it if TWoP recapped this show, but if they haven't announced it by now, I'm betting they won't. Poor Aaron's got enough with Sopranos at the moment, taking on another hour long show would probably be the death of him.

The show looks fantastic, and I completely can't wait. I want to see Calamity Jane, a truly kickass old west female. I'm confused on one thing, though. The HBO site says she's devoted to Wild Bill, and he's married, but they don't state that she's his wife. Does anyone know the story behind that?

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Posted Mar 17, 2004 @ 4:18 PM

There was an article about the show in this week's Time Magazine which compared it to other HBO shows like The Sopranos and The Wire, where the lines of good and evil are not clearly drawn. The jist of the article seemed to be that these shows represent a more sophisticated take on a particular genre, i.e., cop shows that are more about the political corruption at the top echelons, mob shows where the bad guys are not always totally bad, etc. It also drew a lot of parallels between these shows and movies from the '70s like The Godfather, Chinatown, and McCabe & Mrs. Miller, which all represented a similar departure from the traditional "good guy vs. bad guy" themes.

It made me very excited to watch Deadwood. There are very few HBO shows I don't like anyway, but I love every one of their dramatic series.

edited to prove I DO know the difference between "cut" and "paste."

edited again to remind myself that maybe it's not such a good idea to have wine with lunch.

Edited by Eliot, Mar 17, 2004 @ 4:20 PM.


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Posted Mar 17, 2004 @ 10:22 PM

HBO Goes in Search of 'Deadwood' From Zap2it

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Posted Mar 18, 2004 @ 7:16 AM

Perhaps the only thing dirtier than Deadwood itself is the language, which is salty even for HBO.


Saltier than Six Feet Under? Damn. That's salty.

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Posted Mar 19, 2004 @ 6:25 PM

A whole bunch of reviews/articles in today's papers, including:

The New York Times (reg. required)

Associated Press

SF Chronicle

Boston Globe

Philadelphia Daily News

Saltier than Six Feet Under? Damn. That's salty.


I've seen the first few episodes, and they're so profane that even Nate Fisher would probably watch and say "Do they have to curse so much?" Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you.

Edited by alsep73, Mar 19, 2004 @ 6:25 PM.


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Posted Mar 21, 2004 @ 8:22 AM

And a profile of "Deadwood" creator David Milch

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Posted Mar 21, 2004 @ 10:26 AM

It sounds as if Deadwood is going to have the language and violence of Sopranos mixed with the dirt of Carnivale. Sign me up!

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Posted Mar 21, 2004 @ 1:28 PM

I prefer to think of it as "Oz in the Old West." Random murder, lawlessness, and foul language, all in a single hour! My kind of show!

Edited by Eliot, Mar 21, 2004 @ 1:29 PM.


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Posted Mar 21, 2004 @ 1:47 PM

If it had ass-branding, wrestling & plenty of HoYay too (between the guys, of course), *then* I'd think of it as "Oz in the Old West." (LOL)

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Posted Mar 21, 2004 @ 11:34 PM

Just watched the first episode. Amazing. McShane is rivetingly intense, Olyphant is cute as a button, and it's good to see Keith Carradine again. The duped city slickers plot is my favorite thread so far.

I suspect the little girl will be joining her family soon.

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Posted Mar 21, 2004 @ 11:41 PM

First impression - WOW, that was -a lot- of violence and a whole heck of a lot of cussing! It's probably fairly accurate of what the West was like in 1876, though. I hadn't been following the previews for Deadwood but knew I was going to watch it, so was surprised to see "Larry" there. Took me about 5 minutes before I could place that voice! I -think- that the woman who was helping the whore (guess she's like a maid or something?) was the girl who played "Blair's" cousin on Facts of Life (Geri Jewel), but I may be wrong. I'm not sure that I can take so much graphic violence, but I'm going to try to hang in there; I love historical-based works like this (like Lonesome Dove). More later as I chew on the premier episode ...

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Posted Mar 21, 2004 @ 11:49 PM

I loved it, but then again I'm always a sucker for a western. expecially when they're trying to be realistic.

It might've been a little slow in times and I had trouble following what was going on sometimes with Swearingen and his conspiring.

I came into this knowing about the profanity, which doesnt bother me. But I dont think I've ever heard "cocksucker" used so much.

I can tell the doctor will be a colorful character, and the newsman was quite pathetic, yet funny.

I'll have to re-watch to catch everything.

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Posted Mar 22, 2004 @ 12:03 AM

I really liked it. Don't remember seeing Timothy Olyphant before, but he was wonderful, brought a terrific gravitas to his scenes - he has a real presence. Carradine was wonderful, too, and the whole gritty look worked for me. It did kind of remind me of Carnivale in an odd way.

And Ian MacShane was awesome as Swearengen. I think he's going to be one of the most memorable villains of the season.

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Posted Mar 22, 2004 @ 2:36 AM

I -think- that the woman who was helping the whore (guess she's like a maid or something?) was the girl who played "Blair's" cousin on Facts of Life (Geri Jewel), but I may be wrong.


Yup, it's Geri. Saw her name in the credits. Great to see her work again!

"Hi Mrs. G! Have you seen Tootie?"

Okay, I'll stop now...

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Posted Mar 22, 2004 @ 2:44 AM

I loved it too. I just put my thoughts down on IMDb, but I want to share 'em here, cocksuckers:

great script, acting. Infused my dream tonight with yellow smoke and dust...

I really hope people watch this so we can see where this goes!

"Wild Bill" used to sleep with rolled-up newspapers on the floor around him so he could hear a potential assassin approach. I guess he's not really a gunslinger in Deadwood anymore; something's gotta happen to make him crazy again. Anyone?

I'm hooked.

ETA: why are people so shocked by "the seven words you can't say on television"? They're just words, damnit. Sticks n' stones, yo.

Edited by wigglepuppy44, Mar 22, 2004 @ 2:51 AM.


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Posted Mar 22, 2004 @ 3:11 AM

Well, I liked it.

I like all Westerns that treat the West as the dirty, scuzzy place that it was. This show reminded me a lot of "Unforgiven."

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Posted Mar 22, 2004 @ 6:28 AM

Man, I wish I'd had the bear's grease and mustache wax concession for that town. I'd have been a millionaire. (Assuming Swearengen didn't have me whacked first.)

Good show. There were characters to root for, like the former sheriff and his partner, and characters to revile, like Swearengen and Douriff's nutso doc, and there are characters like the city slicker, who are just sad. How funny was it to see him head off for a day of prospecting, dressed to the nines?

If I hadn't known that Geri Jewell was in the cast already (thank you IMDb), I'd never guessed that was her. Now I'm on the lookout for Greg "voice of Beast Boy on Teen Titans" Cipes. He plays some guy named "Miles Anderson." Was he the sour-faced young blonde guy in the funny hat (I know, take your pick), or has he even appeared yet?

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Posted Mar 22, 2004 @ 7:41 AM

I liked it but had trouble with understanding some of the dialogue. There were lines where I really had no idea what was being said but figured that I would just get it eventually.
Carradine and McShane - really good.
Who is playing the new-to-town dry goods salesman? He is really good.
Love all the moustaches!

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Posted Mar 22, 2004 @ 8:15 AM

Man there is a lot of HITG! going on this show. But that also means the cast is pretty stellar.

I also had a hard time following the diaglogue. Names were being thrown around before I even had a chance to figure out who's who. But I didn't have a problem sorting out the first plot.

So did anyone think that the dead-guy-to-be in the first scene was going to be magically saved somehow? Or they were going to tell his backstory of three-days earlier? I have to say that it "shocked" me that there was a trick to save him, nor did his story even seem to matter. Guess i'm too used to the deus ex machina plot.