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[sardonic]

Julie is going to be on Inferno and it seems (from Melissa's glee) that she's going to be bringing the drama and must come out of it barely. I must admit that I'm planning on watching the show if only just to see Coral go medieval on Julie. We know that Coral does not suffer fools gladly, and add to that the fact that Melissa, Coral's best friend, and Julie and mortal enemies ALONG with the fact that Coral is one of the RWers to have allegedly been ripped of by Julie and her mother in a business deal, and we've got one dilly of a catfight.

[Lantern7]

I figured that Julie's RW thread would suffice. But seriously? "Mormonster"? Nice choice of words.

And yeah....Julie's gonna get shredded like wheat. Gotta love it.

[ak723]

Check out Julie's pictures on the mtv Inferno page. I have to say that she looks fantastic.

[liqidclark]

Yeah, if by "fantastic," you actually mean "bat-shit insane."

[JTara]

I don't know if fantastic is the word, but she does look a lot different. I don't even think she looks better. She looks like a 35 year old soccer mom trying to look hot.

[HiImOates]

We do? She's friends with MElissa, Felka, and "the Miz." She's also practically in love with herself. If anything, she suffers fools gladly AND willingly.

Word.

[Melvin_Spelvin]

She must be the stupidest girl in the world.

[prmami]

I think Julie looks very nice in the pictures. Still think "equine" when I see her, but pretty nonetheless.

I'm so sick of Quarrel now that I wouldn't mind seeing Julie last a while (although I still think she'll be out first because of the high school politics of the game).

[biakbiak]

(although I still think she'll be out first because of the high school politics of the game).

With the new vote out procedure that might not happen simply because on her previous two challenges she got along better with the RR people than the RW people so they might not choose her. Also, even if they don't like her they might not choose her because the smart move would be to pick the more well-liked of the two candidates so that there is dissention on the other team.

Edited by biakbiak, Jan 15, 2004 @ 12:11 AM.

[FashionVictim19]

Hmm...did ya'll hear about this?


Apparently, the show will be even more intense this time around as the vote-off process becomes even more greuling than The Gauntlet. Here's the big news: Road Rules wins the Challenge... Also, Julie (New Orleans), who returns after her dismal appearance and fight with former castmate Melissa on Battle of the Sexes rocked the world of reality TV, will again cause shockwaves. No, Julie does not get immediately voted off. However, there is a huge controversy, when Julie is accused of stealing... (like Veronica did on her season.) It's this whole big thing. And if you're wondering if Julie is friends with Coral... It's not a surprise that they aren't. Yes, Melissa's good friend Coral gets into a fight with Julie while their on the Challenge. And Julie asks Coral if they can take it outside and wrestle. Sounds like a tumultous challenge

Got it from the RW/RR Blog - should be interesting. I don't mind if she stays for like, two episodes as long as she gets ripped a new one. And wrestle Coral? LMAO. I seriously can't stop laughing. I can't even imagine Coral's response.

[crab nebula]

OK, call me naive, but can someone explain the Julie hate to me? Sorry, I don't follow the BMP behind-the-scenes subterfuge all too closely, and to me, the Julie/Melissa conflict seemed entirely out of line.

From what I gather, she's some sort of ho-bag swindler? Seems out of character for her to be that crafty. And how did Coral get cheated by Julie's schemes? It all sounds ridiculous.

[sardonic]

Crab Nebula: This may help. I realize this is only one side of the story, but this is the general gist, and there are a lot more RWers that corroborate Melissa's version than Julie's.

Melissa's account:

[Cee]

Coral didn't get cheated by Julie. Coral just stuck her nose in it, to draw attention to herself.

We do? She's friends with MElissa, Felka, and "the Miz." She's also practically in love with herself. If anything, she suffers fools gladly AND willingly.

Khan. I'm laughing at the superior intellect.

The whole Julie/MElissa drama is such bullshit. I'm so tired of MElissa endlessly stoking the emebrs of this nonsense. MElissa, if you truly don't like Julie, either sue her or shut the fuck up about it. IOW, be a fucking adult. Stop desperately dragging this out for the camera (or the pixels) just so you can bask in the glow of "I told HER! No, REALLY, I put my hands on my hips and waggled my head from side to side, thus slaying her with my superior intellect!"

I'm completely indifferent to Julie, and believe it or not I can acknowledge MElissa has some interesting and good qualities, but they all seem to have vanished since her season ended and she became such a shallow creature.

[Lantern7]

*tsk tsk tsk* I figure Melissa's being truer to herself. Julie just sank like a damn stone after her season. Almost like she wanted to kill her parents. Let's stage a pointless protest when Ayanna got kicked off for beating a guy off! Let's cheat on a rappelling mission and turn Emily into a bitch about it! Let's scream at Christian while he's a few hundred feet in the air on a trapeze! Let's creat the illusion of being punk!

All I know is this: thank God Ellen didn't pick her legs up in Sgt. Says. She got eliminated, took Julie with her. Melissa and Amaya made it into the Inner Circle on their own. I'm telling you...BOTSexes would've been even more unbearable if Julie stayed.

Julie is a phony, a straight-up phony. And if Coral's gotta teach her a lesson, so be it. This isn't about Melissa anymore. Melissa's gone to do her own stuff now. This is just about Julie, and who's willing to take her down for good.

ETA: I heard this elsewhere. No, not that. The other thing: Because she wants to go back to BYU, Julie decides to sleep in a tent outside, so as not to room with rooms. Yeah, right. Bitch is going back to BYU right after I return to junior high. Seriously, she's a female Puck. She's a Puckette.

Edited by Lantern7, Jan 16, 2004 @ 3:23 AM.

[PlaceForMyHead]

With the amounts of black she was wearing, and the fact that only her pinkies are painted with black nail polish she looks like a female Carson Daly.

[snarkastic21]

Coral didn't get cheated by Julie. Coral just stuck her nose in it, to draw attention to herself.

You are incorrect.

Coral did indeed get cheated by the Mormonster and her mother/agent. Melissa has a fairly articulate description on her website. I believe her, because Julie hasn't rebutted since then

[Cee]

This is just about Julie, and who's willing to take her down for good.

Oh, for God's sake. Don't buy into the hype. And "tsk tsk" yourself. She's not a rogue nation, and Coral is not President Bush. I couldn't care less what goes on between those people in private until MElissa insists on making it part of the drama by waiting until the cameras were around to tear into Julie, and Coral naturally has to draw attention to herself by issuing statements when she wasn't involved. Keep it off the screen and act like adults. Again, if MElissa has a legitimate beef with Julie, sue her or shut the fuck up.

Coral did indeed get cheated by the Mormonster and her mother/agent. Melissa has a fairly articulate description on her website. I believe her, because Julie hasn't rebutted since then.

That's no proof whatsoever. Maybe Julie doesn't want to escalate things, or maybe she's pursuing something quietly behind the scenes. MElissa might want to watch herself--if she keeps saying things about Julie, she might find herself on the end of a lawsuit, for libel.

At any rate, it's still their word against Julie's--no legal proof has been established, so I am not "incorrect."

Edited by Cee, Jan 16, 2004 @ 9:58 AM.

[jennypenny]

Was it just me or did Julie look like Trishelle on some of her pics? She looks nice, although I was taken aback by what she was wearing and he make-up.

[aptpupil99]

Julie’s response to Danny? “Somebody must have broken into our email accounts…”

So, not only is she a liar, but she's a horribly bad liar at that. I hope her team shuns her.

[JilliBean]

I'm not the world's biggest Melissa fan, but I believe her on this one. For one thing, if nothing else, Melissa appears to be loyal to her friends, no matter how awful they are (coughVeronicacough). So it must have taken quite a big ordeal for her to turn on Julie. And, I'm sorry, but Melissa just strikes me as far more honest than Julie, especially after watching Julie on the Extreme Challenge. I think Julie actually convinces herself that the things she does are okay, which is scary and sad. I read both accounts last year, and I didn't believe Julie's for a second.
And I agree with Lantern that Julie's behavior on the Extreme Challenge was bizarre, inappropriate, and probably representative of her true character.
Also, I've heard from more than one source that Julie has a serious klepto issue. I know we joke about Veronica's, but from what I hear, Julie's is no joke. And this isn't something that's come up recently; I remember reading things about it as far back as two years ago. So I wasn't at all surprised when I heard this might come up on Inferno. I hope it does, and I hope Julie is exposed for what she is.
And what I found interesting was Norm's claim that Julie is not a virgin. If that's true, well...she's even worse than I thought she was in terms of the lying.

[MaryWebGirl]

Was it just me or did Julie look like Trishelle on some of her pics?

I thought the brown hair made her look quite a bit like Rachel from San Francisco. They both have those bug eyes.

[Ibiza]

Julie reminds me of Geena Davis. I think it's a combination of the buggy eyes and all those teeth.

I'm still on the fence about how I feel about Julie. I really didn't get to see enough of her in BOTS to decide. I really couldn't stand her on the challenge before that, but people grow up. As far as her beef w/ Melissa goes, I'm sure the truth lies somewhere in between both of the declarations... I wouldn't be at all surprised if Melissa is exaggerating some but I also don't believe for one minute that Julie is completely innocent. This should be interesting to watch...

[MaitimPinoy]

Oh, for God's sake. Don't buy into the hype. And "tsk tsk" yourself. She's not a rogue nation, and Coral is not President Bush. I couldn't care less what goes on between those people in private until MElissa insists on making it part of the drama by waiting until the cameras were around to tear into Julie, and Coral naturally has to draw attention to herself by issuing statements when she wasn't involved. Keep it off the screen and act like adults. Again, if MElissa has a legitimate beef with Julie, sue her or shut the fuck up.

Besides the Julie battle, Melissa was practically nonexistent on BotSexes due to being drama free.

And when has Coral actually "issued statements" against Julie publically? She has no websites and rarely does interviews.

Julie has never really rebutted Melissa's claims, save for trying to blame the fiasco on an agent. But when that agent is Julie's mother, I'm not sure how people can't believe that she's not shady.

[Cee]

Besides the Julie battle, Melissa was practically nonexistent on BotSexes due to being drama free.

The Julie battle was plenty to secure her status as Obnoxious Drama Queen, what with the screaming and the vote off. But even after that--the CONSTANT whining. Oh, the whining. The drama. The "I'm little and cute and therefore fragile" reminders. The screeching. She was overwhelmingly present.

And when has Coral actually "issued statements" against Julie publically?

She wrote something on MElissa's website during BOtSexes. Naturally she couldn't email Julie privately or call her up (you know, like a post-high scholl adult would)--she has to make a spectacle of it.

Julie and her mother may well have acted shadily--I have no way of knowing. But when MElissa makes such a public spectacle of it, rather than pursuing it through legal channels (and if what's she saying is true, she has a case for legal redress), it makes me think "she's not suing her because she really doesn't have a case. There's nothing there." And then it becomes just a big high school girly drama with "she said" and the back and forth and the hands on the hips. It's such adolescent bullshit, and I detest women who act that way. The fact that people agree with MElissa's assessment of Julie's character (not the facts of the situation, but her character) doesn't particularly impress me; for one thing I don't know them, and for another it just strikes me as so much piling on--again, like high school. Julie's actions speak louder to me than anti-testimonials from Danny. If MElissa can make provable statements about Julie's actions, she should take it to court.

Seriously, who wouldn't rather get legal redress--like money--than embarrass themselves like this (and, as I said, potentially opneing themselves up to litigation)?

[HiImOates]

Seriously, who wouldn't rather get legal redress--like money--than embarrass themselves like this (and, as I said, potentially opneing themselves up to litigation)?

Seriously. If she had a case, she'd be pleading it somewhere other than on the internet.

AFAIK, Coral's problem is with the alleged actions of Julie's mom. Even if those (alleged) actions were done on Julie's behalf, it's a bit of a stretch to automatically assume Julie was involved.

But since Julie's mom's not on tv doing challenges, it's a lot easier to point the finger at Julie and play up their victim status.

[Queen B]

I hope that rumor about Julie being a little Jr Klep is true. That'd be great drama, and I can totally see her playing it off with that wide-eyed 'wasn't me' way that she did in the confrontation with MElissa.

I neither know nor care if the contents of this rumor are true. All I know is that I'm going to enjoy watching it go down.

[MaitimPinoy]

Julie and her mother may well have acted shadily--I have no way of knowing. But when MElissa makes such a public spectacle of it, rather than pursuing it through legal channels (and if what's she saying is true, she has a case for legal redress), it makes me think "she's not suing her because she really doesn't have a case. There's nothing there." And then it becomes just a big high school girly drama with "she said" and the back and forth and the hands on the hips. It's such adolescent bullshit, and I detest women who act that way. The fact that people agree with MElissa's assessment of Julie's character (not the facts of the situation, but her character) doesn't particularly impress me; for one thing I don't know them, and for another it just strikes me as so much piling on--again, like high school. Julie's actions speak louder to me than anti-testimonials from Danny. If MElissa can make provable statements about Julie's actions, she should take it to court.

Well, a lot of things can't be taken to court, as much as everyone would like to think so. Hence, the "Julie is shady" idea that seems to be quite popular. She's not doing anything legally wrong, but everyone seems to morally have a problem with her. That's great for Survivor, not so great for Real World. Melissa is only the most vocal about it (and only became vocal about it) when it got brought to television. From both their accounts, they've already had this confrontation before, so the idea that it became public on a voyeuristic television show shouldn't be a surprise.

Because Julie != Julie's mom. They're two different people. AFAIK, Coral's problem is with the alleged actions of Julie's mom. Even if those (alleged) actions were done on Julie's behalf, it's a bit of a stretch to automatically assume Julie was involved.

Not really. Lori has also had problems with Julie (though its unstated if they're the same reasons). And Jamie had problems with Julie and her mother, in part because Julie wrote some letters badmouthing him, (something which the RW'ers claim her mother does as well) all for the sake of money.

The thing with Julie, is that no one has risen up to defend her among the RW'ers. These folks have no problem making their grievances public, and a good chunk are willing to stand up for the wronged parties as well and offer another side of the story.

But maybe there isn't another side for Julie.