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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 4:47 PM

Please, please let him bring a razor as his luxury item.

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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 6:15 PM

You mean you don't want a repeat appearance of the awful configurations in which his facial hair just naturally grows??

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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 6:35 PM

Hated him the first go-round and doubt ASS will be any different. UGH.

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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 7:07 PM

He's hot. There I said it! May not be the brightest tool in the shed, but who really cares about that on Survivor? I mean, Jenna M. won for God's sack.

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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 7:32 PM

I actually liked him a lot the first time around; even the accent was unobjectionable when compared to Peter's, which didn't even sound at all natural. As many others have said, the thing I'm most looking forward to is the battle of the Rob's. The Robfather's tactics were more blunt numbers, while Rob C.'s were more elaborate and tricky to maintain. I'm predicting he will make it farther than he did last time, but not much.

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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 7:44 PM

I loved him the first time around. I wonder if his skin is going to start glowing again like it did last time. I also wonder if Kathy is going to going to feel like she can trust him again.

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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 8:02 PM

I wouldn't underestimate this guy. He can be charming and he is a very determined player. He survived 12 days under the Rotu banner, despite his battles with Johnny Pots&Pans. He will not burn out like a Osten, Shawna, or Jenna M (the three quitters of Survivor).

Chapera is going to be an interesting tribe. Tom and Sue will not get along. Remember, Tom hated Kim Johnson. Rob and Rob will get along, but eventually they will do battle for supremacy of Chapera. Rob C is an extremely jealous person, and should Amber pay Rob M more attention, things could get very interesting.

I think Rob M is going to win the Rob/Rob war. Amber and him will be an alliance. That's just my hunch. Alicia is brought in via her association to Amber, and Tom becomes the fourth. Sue is gone early, then Rob C will be blindsided and become the next Hunter. Best Player Not to Win? HA! His rep is going to take a major hit.

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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 11:19 PM

Did this really happen, or did I make it up? I thought sometime just after either the shuffle or the merge Rob M. said something homophobic that made him even more repellant than he had been before. Did he say something about John? What was it? Help me out here, people!

Edited by bsimmons, Jan 14, 2004 @ 11:19 PM.


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Posted Jan 15, 2004 @ 1:48 AM

Boston Rob will out Rob Amazon Rob though either Rob brings the fun. Go, Robs!

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Posted Jan 15, 2004 @ 1:51 AM

Did he say something about John? What was it? Help me out here, people!


Well I do remember him saying "Petaah is a fruit loop," and asking John if he was gay.

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Posted Jan 15, 2004 @ 3:09 AM

Yeah, after the switch in Survivor 4, Rob M and John clashed numerous times. There was actually a confessional from Rob were he described all five of his new tribe mates, from Gabe to John. It wasn't flattering, but it was his description of John as a "big-time queer" that went over the line. Later in that same episode, Rob would describe Rotu to Sean as of "eight guys and one girl -- I think her name's John."

Ok, those jokes weren't nice. But a few episodes later, John and Rob would have formed a shaky final seven agreement-- with the boot order being: Gabe, Kathy, Paschel, and Neleh, supposedly. However, the deal was one that would only benefit John, as his Rotu alliance of four would have had the advantage in the final seven over Sean, Vee, and Rob. Anyway, neither Rob or John really trusted each other, nor do I think either intended to stick to the agreement; however, Rob was looking for reassurance of John's truthfulness and asked him flat out if he was gay. John didn't really want to answer, but did say yes. John thought it was a passive aggressive attempt to regain an upper hand by Rob, while Rob considered it a test of John's truthfulness. I think everyone would agree outing someone on a top rated show is not a good thing to do.

If you believe the post-show interviews, Rob did apologize to John for his gay jokes.

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Posted Jan 15, 2004 @ 9:52 AM

I really think Rob M. is the one to watch for this season. A lot of people are saying he was more of a blunt player than a finesse player, but I disagree. He was employing the power broker strategy and could have gone far had he been able to hold his temper in check. The ability to charm someone enough to control his/her vote (as he did with Sarah) is a power play in this game. I don't think he'll be able to pull that off a second time, but I have no doubts he has some tricks up his sleeve. When he engineered Hunter's ouster I was shocked but impressed. Probably the best way to deal with him is to let him think he's alpha male.

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Posted Jan 15, 2004 @ 11:55 AM

He was booted earlier than almost any other ASS. His strategic claim to fame is leading a slacker alliance in booting their most competent player (in the pre-merge phase, when he could have still helped them). He doesn't rate high with me in terms of charisma or skills. However, he may be helped by recent trend of keeping weak and unlikeable people one hopes won't do well in the endgame and jury vote.

The ability to charm someone enough to control his/her vote (as he did with Sarah) is a power play in this game.


Because the All-Stars are mostly heavy-hitters rather than pawns, I doubt he'll be able to control people.

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Posted Jan 15, 2004 @ 10:59 PM

Because the All-Stars are mostly heavy-hitters rather than pawns, I doubt he'll be able to control people.

Yeah but don't forget Amber's on his tribe and she'll be looking for a new Jerri to enslave herself to. And RobM does like the pretty girls.

Also in the pawn department we have Big Tom with him as well. RobM couldn't have chosen a better draw from the players cast.

Edited by SttrayCat, Jan 15, 2004 @ 11:01 PM.


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Posted Jan 16, 2004 @ 12:42 AM

I have nothing against his playing style, but I really didn't like him for much the same reasons as I didn't like Johnny Fairplay: he's an obnoxious, sexist ass. Not, as far as I'm concerned, as charming or witty as he thinks he is, and just generally obnoxious. I'm not looking forward to seeing him on my screen again.

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Posted Jan 16, 2004 @ 1:03 AM

And homophobic. He's a total jerk, and the only reason I want to see him around is to get slapped down hard.

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Posted Jan 16, 2004 @ 2:01 AM

I have to add this because it was one of my favorite idiot quotes ever: "Do you guys heaah that gohbblin'? That's a turkey!" and "I had no idea that roostahs could fly, but this roostah took off like a 747 and he was out of heah and that was it."

I'll be intrigued to see how chummy Rob and Rob get. From what I've seen/heard, it certainly seems like they got along really well. (All speculative, of course.)

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Posted Jan 16, 2004 @ 4:07 AM

Damn, Screamie, that was funny! Hee.

And Lawdog - yeah, Rob's a big dumb eedjit. I don't think his strategizing was top notch at all. I'll admit he does have a certain amoral deviousness which may well serve him on Survivor, but I still think he lacks the basic self awareness necessary to do very well (sometimes...Jenna...*cough*).

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Posted Jan 16, 2004 @ 11:43 AM

The "mute" button on the remote was my own best friend during any Rob interview on S4. I don't necessarily have anything against a Boston accent in general (see David from Real World Seattle), but Rob's particular accent -- and his slow-motion manner of speech -- are tough on my ears.

Edited by DoubleTee, Jan 16, 2004 @ 11:43 AM.


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Posted Jan 16, 2004 @ 12:19 PM

I'm glad Rob M. made it to the cast because I think he was the catalyst for what eventually happened in S4. It was he who put the bug in Kathy's ear about how tight the Rotu4 were and how they'd have to find a way to ally against them or they were done.

Even though it didn't happen immediately (and Rob M. couldn't save himself by then since the rest of Rotu - Tammy especially - hated him) it opened Kathy's eyes so that once the coconut challenge happened they were able to get together and move against them.

He was also the one who made it clear that physical skills didn't matter one bit to him, and at the time I hated him for voting out Hunter, but at the end he was right. I expect him to do well.

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Posted Jan 16, 2004 @ 12:27 PM

Except he did enjoy the fruits of Hunter's labor. I believe he did at some point eat food, drink water and sleep in the shelter, and he wasn't particularly active in any of those activities, so he was a leech to his team. So physical skills DO matter, even if he didn't make the effort to provide anything to the team.

He also got lucky that there was a tribal switch that favored him. Had they not switched he would have either had to do some of Hunter's work or, which I think is likely, allowed Gina to pick up Hunter's slack.

I won't argue that he managed to open Kathy's eyes, but his laziness and impetuousness was his downfall. He's a manchild who assumes there will always be a parental figure to provide for him. If it requires any delayed gratification, he'll take a nap.

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Posted Jan 17, 2004 @ 12:41 AM

I hated and detested Rob and was grateful that my ears were spared further abuse when he was voted off, but I have to admit that he's one of the more colorful Survivor characters. I'm glad he's back this time, so I can hate and detest him again. Although this time I may invest in earplugs.

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Posted Jan 17, 2004 @ 12:12 PM

I didn't mind Rob's accent at all, but that's probably because it compared favorably to Peter's even after he was the first to go. I think that he'll be the first to go if Chapera goes to tribal council, but that doesn't mean I don't want him to go far.

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Posted Jan 17, 2004 @ 1:29 PM

He also got lucky that there was a tribal switch that favored him. Had they not switched he would have either had to do some of Hunter's work or, which I think is likely, allowed Gina to pick up Hunter's slack.

Only for the next 3 days, until he led the vote against her next. Then he would be stuck *gasp* doing work. Or dying. I still think Hunter's vote off speech was the funniest, and most accurate, had things not gotten switched up, ever.

Edited by KingsHearte, Jan 17, 2004 @ 1:30 PM.


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Posted Jan 17, 2004 @ 2:19 PM

I once had a "what if" conversation where some friends and I came up with scenarios where reality contestants from one show ended up on another. The one we liked best was Hunter/Robfaddah on TAR. Hunter would have the sleek, I-Spy backpack with every credit card side gadget allowed. He'd convince the pilots to let him fly the planes and his teeth would sparkle. He'd study maps and guidebooks for five different cities at the same time and retain all the information, just in case. And he'd literally be dragging Robfaddah and his fuzzy, teddybear backpack (with plenty of porn and two changes of underwear) all over the world. And Robfaddah would still be trying to get rid of Hunter whenever he wasn't napping.

But the last few seasons have been about the triumph of the mediocre, so Robfaddah's rampant incompetence will actually be an asset.

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Posted Jan 17, 2004 @ 6:29 PM

I will be fun to see both annoying Robs slapped around a bit. Likely it will have to come from either Rat & Snake woman or after a merge though.

What happened to Robb? Couldn't they get him and put all three on one tribe? :-)

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Posted Jan 18, 2004 @ 5:07 AM

Ick, Rob, Rob and Robb! I like the first two, but I can definitely do without the third.

I think Rob is in a pretty good position since he was voted out pretty early compared to everyone else. It just depends on how people remember him, because (based on the past) he's certainly had more stumbles than any Rob C. or Rich.

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Posted Jan 23, 2004 @ 1:19 PM

I really think Rob M. is the one to watch for this season. A lot of people are saying he was more of a blunt player than a finesse player, but I disagree. He was employing the power broker strategy and could have gone far had he been able to hold his temper in check


He wasn't going any further than he did......even if there had been no tribal switch. His strategy of kicking out the strong BEFORE the merge, while unique and original, was hardly a successful one. We all know that the only reason a member of his tribe won was because of the cockiness of the Rotu4, not because of anything he did (while he might have put the bug in Kathy's ear, again, it was due to the R4's cockiness and making no attempt to hide their alliance from others)

If the switch hadn't occurred, Maraamu would have been pagonged right after the merge........his actions decimated his own tribe (they were on their way to becoming the only tribe to lose every challenge pre-merge). The biggest question would have been "Will he vote out Sean or Sarah first?"

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Posted Jan 23, 2004 @ 1:42 PM

Had he been a smart player instead of an emotional one, he'd have realized that Hunter was the perfect foil to align with. Hunter was all "Look at how competent I am," and screaming to be targeted by every member of Rotu. He couldn't hide his desire to be strong, alpha male if he wanted to. And he had no game, except to be the all that he could be. Rob would have easily been able to hide in Hunter's long shadow and align with the more devious members of Rotu...had he been smart. Instead, he aligned with Sean who only made Rob more obvious and seem even more obnoxious than he is.

Why? Because, as I always assume, the cockier the player the weaker and more petty he is. Hunter is the kind of guy that parents use as an example to their hapless, lazy, underachieving, still-living-at-home-in-their-mid-20s sons. They say "You remember that Hunter boy, you went to school with him? He graduated top of his class at Annapolis and is flying planes for Federal Express now. Why couldn't you be more like him instead of your good-for-nothing friends?" So Rob took the chance, and the only chance he would ever have in life, to be "better" than Hunter. Regardless of how it affected his own game.

Edited by vallegirl, Jan 23, 2004 @ 1:44 PM.


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Posted Jan 23, 2004 @ 4:47 PM

He's my favored "bad guy" of this season, and I don't know why. I hated him when he was on Marquesas, but he's one of the few players in this edition that I'd actually like to see more of. He played a stupid transparent game last time, but he seems to be one of the main influences on recent players since (notably Jenna, but also Burton and to a lesser extent Penny, players who wanted to get rid of other strong assets on their tribe before it would be advantageous to do so).

I hope he does well, as his tribe contains two of the people I want to see in the Final Four (him and the other Rob).