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Posted Jan 8, 2004 @ 12:38 AM

Since there was no topic on Dr. Quinn, just thought I would be the first. This used to be one of my favorite shows, but now the bastards don't even show it on rerun anymore. (Damn you Hallmark!)
The best shows in the entire run are the premier (I just love seeing Jane Seymore face-first in a mud puddle. Not because I hate Jane Seymore, because I don't, but it is just fun to watch a dignified woman look like an ass), the one where the first Colleen gets trapped in a cave and gets frostbites because she is fantasizing about Sully and episodes featuring Matthew. He was so cute!
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Posted Jan 8, 2004 @ 12:49 AM

You know, I adored this show when it was first on. Haven't seen it in a awhile. I have to say my favorite epi was the one for early in the first season when everyone in the town gets sick(some fever or flu or something) and Doc Quinn and company take care of the town and then she ends up getting sick. And Sully saves her with the Indian medicine. Great, great epi. I used to love Joe Lando(on a purely superficial level) he's so very, very pretty.
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Posted Jan 8, 2004 @ 1:21 AM

I. Hated. Colleen.

Ahem.

Anyway, I loved the show- and spent many-a-episode drooling over Hank. It's not cool when you're jealous of a guy's hair, but believe me, I was. It was all about the hair with me and Hank....*sighs* I saw a picture of William Shockley the other day, all shaved and with *can't.* *say.* *it*.......*gasps* SHORT hair, and I nearly DIED. Needless to say, I am over him.

My fave eppy was the one where everybody is sueing everybody and Hank punched Horace, another character I loved to hate (although you can't hate Horace for long; he's just so pitifuly earnest.) Now Preston? That's a guy I would have liked to see get punched. "Man in the Moon" is another fave (and another Hank-centered eppy. See a pattern here?) Too bad he and the good Doc never got down an' dirty. y'know they wanted to. Especially in the first season.

I feel horrible for saying that. Dr. Quinn was such a nice clean show. [/repents]
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Posted Jan 8, 2004 @ 1:50 AM

I too enjoyed seeing Jane Seymour going face first into the mud, but unlike the first poster, it's because I actually do hate her! That woman annoys me to no end.

I liked the first Colleen, couldn't stand the second one. All she did was pout and act like a baby.

I watched the show religiously for Sully/Joe Lando. He's still very handsome. I've met him twice and he's a really nice, down to earth guy.
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Posted Jan 8, 2004 @ 7:53 AM

Add me to the Joe Lando love train! Damn, is he hot! I also lurved Hank to no end. At the time, I could not believe that Dr. Quinn actually landed Sully as a husband and that Horace landed one of Hank's girls as a wife. What did I know?!

Colleen annoyed me to no end, but the first one was less annoying than the second one. I felt awful for Matthew when his girlfriend/fiance was attacked by that rabid wolf and ended up dying. The one I truly couldn't stand was Colleen and Matthew's little brother.

I don't get the Hallmark Channel from my cable company but another station used to air Dr. Quinn, and then suddenly stopped. Idiot programmers!
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Posted Jan 8, 2004 @ 12:53 PM

liked the first Colleen, couldn't stand the second one. All she did was pout and act like a baby.


Word. Did they think that we wouldn't notice they got a different actress? Not only a redhead, but much skinnier than the first? Grr... I hate when shows switch actors midway through the run. Did anybody else notice the new Colleen still wore the same clothes as the first? Really weird, since she was about 30 pounds lighter.
I like the ep where they thought the world was ending. Now that is humour.
Hank did have some pretty hair.
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Posted Jan 8, 2004 @ 4:41 PM

Hated the second Colleen, liked the first, since she reminded me of myself. This show first aired when I was in jr high and high school, and I wanted Dr. Quinn and Sully to get together soooo badly. Everyone else was watching Saved By the Bell, and I was all about this show (I wanted to be a doctor, too). When they finally kissed, I was so excited! I hated Matthew, the older brother, he seemed really whiny and passive-agressive. I thought Brian was fine, a typical older brother, but boy did that kid need some serious dental work.

I could never figure out what was going on with Horace, I actually thought maybe he was developmentally delayed at first. Oops. And I thought it was unrealistic that he and Myra split up after having a baby. Does anyone know if they ever got back together?

Edited by formergr, Jan 8, 2004 @ 4:42 PM.

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Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 8:13 PM

I agree, Kaboom, the younger brother was incredibly annoying. The actor was terrible, so that probably didn't help.

My favourite character was Cloud Dancing. It was so sad, watching what happened to his people, and knowing how things would end--I kept wishing Dr. Quinn could be in some parallel universe where the government learned to share the land with the natives. I was young, I figured TV should be happy...
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Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 11:00 PM

This is really petty, but you know what bothered me about Brian, the younger brother? His name is Shawn Toovey, and in the credits, right when his name flashed up, he smiled, and his teeth were so horrible it always made me think "Shawn Toothy." Isn't that stupid?
I love Dr. Quinn, but did she have to do everything first? Weren't there any other women in the world who wanted to be on the council or anything?
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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 7:35 AM

"Shawn Toothy."

Oh. my. god. I used to think the same thing, BambiJo! He was an annoying little actor, but I always felt a smidge horrible at thinking he had terrible teeth whenever he popped up in the opening credits. And I always thought I was the only one out there who changed his name!

I love to watch the circa '70s Match Game on Game Show Network, and every now and then Loren from Dr. Quinn, aka Orson Bean, shows up in Nipsey Russell's seat. I still can't get over how young Orson looks when I'm so used to seeing him as cranky old Loren on Dr. Quinn!
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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 11:00 PM

The computer just ate my post so here goes..(again).
I was really into this show and I never got comfortable with the different Colleen.
Erika Flores was the first Colleen and her sister was an extra on the show. Jane Seymour never explained what happened to her and I have not seen the girl in anything since.
Her last episode I recall was when she was being picked on for having a big bosom and then the next time we see Colleen she is a tall, redhead with a small chest. She looked like Dr. Quinn more and more each episode.

The show lost its sparkle with me when everyone except Dr. Quinn have a gloomy life.
Matthew-lost his fiance due to his little brother's dog.
Grace and Robert E.- their son died.
Loren-was with Dr. Q's sis then she died.
Cloud Dancing-his whole family.
By the end I wanted each of them to run so far away from her it was not funny.

I really loved Hank's hair, Horace and Mira should never have gotten married and they never should have brought the train station to town. IMHO.
Did anyone see the final movie? There was supposed to be more, but I guess it hasn't worked out.
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Posted Jan 17, 2004 @ 5:23 PM

I had a big crush on Chad Allen (Matthew).

I think the first two seasons are available on DVD, but I haven't bought either of them yet. I will at some point. I really liked this show when it was on originally.
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Posted Jan 18, 2004 @ 12:47 PM

I can't believe I'm delurking for Dr. Quinn.....(hangs head in shame)

Hmmmm.......I wasn't a particularly big fan of Dr. Q when it first aired. But I must say that Jane Seymour was attractive in the role, and played her as well as can be. (I first saw her as Solitaire in the 1973 007 film "Live & Let Die"----and in the "Making Of L&LD" documentary on that film's DVD, she reminisces two or three times about filming the Bond picture. In her interview segments, she's wearing period attire, so obviously she was making a Dr. Q telepic when she was interviewed!---this was probably spring '99, as the DVD appeared that fall)
And Joe Lando was as appealing to the female viewers as Jane was to the guys, so that was the key to Dr. Q's success IMO.

That, and the Saturday night timeslot, where competition and expectations were lower.....I doubt this show would have lasted as long as it did on any other night of the week. Also, I don't think Dr. Q would last as long now if it started out now....viewers have gotten a bit less sentimental in their viewing tastes in recent years.

Finally, Dr. Q should merit special mention as being the last "historical" series to be a hit with viewers to date. Since Dr.Q, a number of other historical TV dramas have come and gone----Brooklyn Bridge, Roar, Homefront, I'll Fly Away, The Adventures Of Briscoe County Jr., Freaks & Geeks--and I'm sure there's one or two others I've overlooked. As for the current American Dreams, its now getting steamrolled by Cold Case, so I'm not too hopeful about that either.

I never picked up on this the few times when I saw it first time round, but I've read on other threads that people found Dr. Q's stories a little too anachoristic (sp?) for their tastes. Evidently, as the years went on, so did other people....so much so to the point they finally became leery of other TV shows set in the past, hence the dreary track record I cited above.

That said, while I'm not this show's biggest fan, I must say it's great eye candy for a rainy day when nothing else is on. Just accept it for what it is, sit back and enjoy.

BTW, S2 is now out on DVD alongside S1, which evidently sold well enough to set up its release.

Edited by yesman6764, Jan 18, 2004 @ 12:53 PM.

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Posted Jan 29, 2004 @ 2:18 PM

Season Three is available to pre-order on A&E's website. :cough: Not that I've done that or anything. Nope.

I love Joe Lando. When I was in high school, I made my parents tape this show for me. I was obsessed. I loved his hair and his dog, and how he would take his shirt off sometimes...

This is kind of mean, but I was so happy when Ingrid died. She was so annoying with her "Matchew, Matchew". Blech. Me and my friend both hated her, and when she got bit by Brian's dog, we called each other cheering. Good times.
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Posted Feb 1, 2004 @ 7:10 PM

Me and my friend both hated her, and when she got bit by Brian's dog, we called each other cheering. Good times.

Ha! I thought it was sad, but I was in love with Matthew so it wasn't that sad.
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Posted Apr 20, 2004 @ 3:19 AM

God, this show was so cheesy that I couldn't resist it. Does anyone remember the "lesson in tolerance" episode where Walt Whitman came to town? Apparently, Dr. Quinn introduced the concept of gay rights to the wild west *rolls eyes*
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Posted Apr 20, 2004 @ 8:05 AM

Yeah, Dr. Quinn was responsible for transforming the whole town into an anachronistic equal-rights-for-everyone, politically-correct society.

Mmmmm, I loved me some Sully action. Dude owned this show. I remember reading somewhere that Joe Lando and Jane Seymour dated briefly when the show first began. After they dated it was rumored that they did not get along very well. I still love the episode where Sully goes to Boston to tell Michaela he loves her. And their wedding was fantastic. Michaela's wedding dress was beautiful, although the off-the-shoulder style was not in any way realistic as to what a bride in the late 19th century would wear.

Remember the episode in which Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash guest-starred? I was always a big fan of Jake and Hank. I kept wishing Hank would stop being such an ass so Myra would marry him and not that dimwit Horace.

Completely agree on the Colleen II and Brian hate. Colleen I and Matthew were the only kids I could stand.
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Posted Apr 20, 2004 @ 11:42 AM

OMG, Baby Fish Mouth, I LOVED Johnny and June Carter Cash on Dr. Quinn! I also loved the Grace and Robert E. characters.

After they dated it was rumored that they did not get along very well.

A few weeks ago, the print edition of the TV Guide had a "Where are they now?" article about TV stars, and Jane and Joe were mentioned. They are now friends and neighbors in Malibu. Jane still acts, and Joe (now married with kids) concentrates more on buying, renovating and selling houses than he does on acting.

Does anyone remember the "lesson in tolerance" episode where Walt Whitman came to town?

Oh, Gawd, yes. Didn't Dr. Quinn also introduce some form of birth control to the town? And then there was ep when she realizes, after her wedding night, that, yeehaw!, she likes sex, and feels guilty that she likes it.
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Posted May 3, 2004 @ 1:02 PM

I loved this show. Isn't it funny how you can love a show and not be able to stand the title character? I absolutely hated the way she would make some grand statement, turn her head, lift her skirts and go sweeping from the room.

But then there was Sully. Perfect, beautiful Sully. Mr Munchie still refers to him as my Perfect Dream Man. Well, he was!

I liked both Colleens eventually, though I was very annoyed about the first one leaving, especially since it seemed to be because she was getting bigger.

Matthew got on my nerves. Brian needed a few spankings. But somehow the love they all showed for each other grabbed me and wouldn't let go.
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Posted May 25, 2004 @ 11:12 PM

Hurray! It is back on Hallmark channel. Hip hip hurray! Hip hip hurray!
Today's episode was the one where the kids' dad comes back in and woos Dr. Mike and convinces the kids he's come back for them. Then he makes like a tree and leaves, except he also steals Sully's new horse which Daddy Dearest sold to him in the first place and $500 for the school. Asshole.
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Posted Jun 11, 2004 @ 1:05 PM

It's on twice in the morning, 8 am and then again at 10 am on the Hallmark channel. I can set the vcr before I leave for work and come home to 2 glorius hours of Sully! Hooray.

I loved this show....and just found this forum. The poster up thread who commented about Ingrid shouting "Matchew" made me spit water through my nose. I think Sully and Hank were the hottest. Dr Quinn gets on my nerves sometimes though....and what exactly is the deal with the furrowing of the brow acting technique. Blech.

For the Johnny Cash guest star fans....."and each Thanksgiving Day for the rest of my life, I'll be thanking the lord he made you".
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Posted Jun 16, 2004 @ 8:02 PM

I was very annoyed about the first one leaving especially since it seemed to be because she was getting bigger.


I remember thinking that the first Collen looked pregnant and then she was gone from the show. I often wondered if that was the case.

Does anybody remember the episode where Dr.Quinn blames a barber for one of the townspeople dying and it leads to the barber becoming an alcoholic. I don't remember the details but Dr.Quinn must have had an extra large glass of bitch juice for breakfast because she was just vicious to that barber.
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Posted Jun 16, 2004 @ 11:07 PM

I LOVED the wedding episode. Especially the ending, with them on the train.

He starts to undo her dress (good grief, can you tell he's been dying to shag her since the minute he laid eyes on her?)
Dr. Quinn (prim and proper to the very end): Sully! It's not even dark yet!"
So he starts teasing her by pulling down all the window shades, until she finally joins in. They slowly sink onto the bed. . .

I also like the abduction which was about a year earlier. Especially the very scene where the Indians take her and Sully's unable to stop them. As the Indians ride away with her, Sully stands in the middle of the road:
"Micheala! I'LL FIND YOU!"

Yeah, it's a Last of the Mohicans rip-off, but it rocked.

Edited by BondGirl, Jun 17, 2004 @ 9:21 PM.

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Posted Jun 18, 2004 @ 10:39 AM

I read an online chat with Joe Lando on his web page and he said the wedding episode was his favorite also. Man is he hot or what?

I've been taping the two morning eps on Hallmark each day this week and watching them in the evening. I didn't realize how much I missed this show.

And did I mention Sully is hot? Yesterday was the ep where he agreed to be in the traveling Wild West show to make extra money to finish building their house. He had his shirt off ALOT in that episode. Phew!
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Posted Jun 18, 2004 @ 11:27 AM

I loved this show too! I used to watch it every Saturday night in high school!

-The wedding episode was my favorite. The shade pulling was one of the sexiest scenes ever! BondGirl, that was a good recap!

-I like both Colleens, but if I had to choose, I would go with the second one. I hated Brian.

-I wish Hank & Dr. Quinn would have had a little tryst - he was so hot... but that would have ruined the wedding night joy and the 'oooh I like it' episode. I really liked the episode where he helped Dr. Quinn's sister with her VD.

-I too was happy Matthew's fiancee died. She grated my nerves.

-I never understood Myra leaving Horace. She must have just wanted to leave the show. They didn't explain that well. Their first time was funny too.

-I loved Robert E. His wife Grace... not so much. Maybe because before the show she played a nasty woman on Generations who was messing with my beloved Kristoff St. John.
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Posted Jun 18, 2004 @ 11:55 AM

-I loved Robert E. His wife Grace... not so much. Maybe because before the show she played a nasty woman on Generations who was messing with my beloved Kristoff St. John.

Me too! It took me the longest time to realize that the actress playing Grace wasn't the bitch from Generations, but she won me over. :-)
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Posted Jun 18, 2004 @ 10:58 PM

Thanks Sara Sue.
I always thought Hank had a thing for her too. They had an odd relationship--he was a jerk, but he also saw through a lot of her bullshit and called her on it, and at the same time, underneath it all, seemed to have a sliver of genuine respect for her.

Does Hallmark post the episode schedule. Because from what I've caught, the wedding and abduction episodes aren't too far off and I want to set my VCR.

The Klan episode was excellent too--a really disturbing look at the fact that no matter how nice someone might seem to you, underneath it all, to them, you're still just that word.

Edited by BondGirl, Jun 18, 2004 @ 11:00 PM.

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Posted Jun 19, 2004 @ 12:39 AM

Yeah, Dr. Quinn was responsible for transforming the whole town into an anachronistic equal-rights-for-everyone, politically-correct society.


That's one of the reasons I eventually lost patience with this show, but I'm afraid I may have obsessively watched most of its run. Both Colleens were pretty irksome, but I'll have to take the second one, mostly because of that one episode where Colleen1 got it into her head that she and Sully were madly in love, and ran off to, like, sit in a coal mine until it collasped on her. I hated Brian and Toothy, the more so because of that crappy TV movie they made a few years after the show ended. Sully/Dr. Mike go to Washington, DC (Boston?) to clean up the government or something, and little Katie is played by a kid who has got to be Shawn Toovey's sister. It feels sad to notice that a girl that age is ugly, but I'm sorry, she was horrible -- she looked just like Brian, who had also gotten uglier with age, IMO.
One of the things I did love was (and another example of how the show made everyone suffer) was the romance with Dr. Quinn's sister Marjorie and Loren (even though he was annoying). I thought it was pretty sweet, and I was pretty mad when they killed her off and made Loren miserable again.
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Posted Jun 19, 2004 @ 3:14 PM

I loved Dr. Quinn. It was my very first show that I watched to snark at. And it was big at my college too. If you didn't know who invented something you just answered, "Musta been Dr. Quinn" I swear, she discovered/introduced/found just about everything from dinosaur bones to birth control.

And to weigh in on the whole Colleen issue... (heh. I said 'weigh') I hated NewColleen with a deep abiding passion. She was a Jane Seymour clone and it was never explained in the media why ChestyColleen got the axe. Pity, even with the "I love Sully so much I'm going to die" thing, she was my favorite. Mostly because she looked like the boys. I have a pet peeve about tv siblings looking similar, and the three of them all had the rosy cheek blond hair thing going for them. After NewColleen came along, well, it wasn't as bad as Ruthie on 7th Heaven, but she just looked different.
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Posted Jun 19, 2004 @ 3:29 PM

*Slinks in from TWW forum*: I read, I think in the paper, that Colleen #1 turned all nasty and had some sort of catfight with everyone on the set, from Jane Seymour down to probably the wood on the floor. So she left. Also, yes, Joe Lando and Hank were very nice looking, but am I the only person who thought Colleen's boyfriend/husband/ Dr,.. Quinn's assistant, was HOT???? I watched the show at the end just so I could stare at him. Yum. *Slinks back into the shadows to lurk*.
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