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Posted Jan 10, 2004 @ 12:36 PM

Remember many moons ago when I posted that I had emailed Stephen Cannell about the possibility of a 21 Jump Street DVD? Well, he wrote back. Here's what he said: "My company does own the rights to release Jump Street onto DVD and hope to release it in the near future." YAY!!!

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Posted Jan 12, 2004 @ 7:45 AM

"My company does own the rights to release Jump Street onto DVD and hope to release it in the near future." YAY!!!

Whoo hoo! Thank you for the news, kunju. :-)

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Posted Jan 12, 2004 @ 8:31 AM

I also watched 21 Jump Street religiously - YAY for the future DVDs.
I would absolute replace my 100+ taped episodes with DVDs.

One episode that stuck with me was Hanson in the rehab clinic, unable to get out. I know it's been done on other shows, but this was the first time I saw it.

Another 'Spot That Actor' guest star on 21 Jump Street:
Steve Bacic in his first role ever in episode 100 - he's now better known as Rhade on Andromeda.

Edited by taizu, Jan 12, 2004 @ 8:43 AM.


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Posted Jan 12, 2004 @ 5:47 PM

I hope they mean it on about those DVD's kunju! Thanks for checking up on that!

Today's episode, Film at Eleven, at least to me made it quite clear why Season 5 was the last for 21 Jump Street. I personally think the move to syndication killed the show, along with the loss of three of its main stars from the first four seasons. McCann is a nice addition but he seems more of a Hanson/Booker hybrid than anything else.

A girl vanishes, and after her anchor woman mother assails the police on the air, McCann is assigned to find her. But after he does he realizes there is a lot more going on than just an unhappy child.

The episode itself seems a little sloppy, the other unit has huge problems finding this girl, and McCann knows just by her posters that she is at a Sting film festival (I didn't even realize Sting had enough movies for something like that to occur), and finds her within a few hours. Also I thought it odd that he doesn't even bother to ask the girl why she ran away. The rest of the episode flows nicely (even though the plotline is kind of strange), the best part being that you get some insight into McCann and how he feels lonely and out of place. Hoffs doesn't make an appearance, though you get some fun Joey Penhall action.

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Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 12:15 AM

One episode that stuck with me was Hanson in the rehab clinic, unable to get out. I know it's been done on other shows, but this was the first time I saw it.


Oh, man! I remember that one. I think any episode where they put Hanson through the ringer (like the episode mentioned upthread where his girlfriend got shot during the convenience store robbery) and Depp got to show his acting chops were fantastic. (Or, maybe it's just a hurt/comfort thing<g>)

I'm hoping for a dvd set, but, so far I think the only Cannell show they've started putting out is Wiseguy, through Ventura Distribution, and I haven't heard much raving about the job they've done with the first 2 sets. (The lazy idiots didn't put any chapter breaks in the first set of episodes). I hope he finds another distributor for 21 Jump Street.

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Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 11:38 AM

So I finally got my Ben Stiller Show DVD, and one of the special features was clips from Ben's old MTV show and skits that never made the cut. I can't remember which one this clip was but it was called "Looker." Ben does a fantastic job parodying Richard Grieco's Booker. He wears black leather and rides around on a motorcycle and chases perps so that he can overpluck their eyebrows (and one of them says, "Dude! Your eyebrows!"). It totally validated my memory of Booker being overplucked (as I commented upthread). If you get a chance, check it out.

That episode where Hanson was in the rehab clinic ("I'm OK - You Need Work") was great not only for the chance to watch Johnny Depp in action, but also because it involved one of Hanson's prior busts. I really liked that this show would go back and revisit some of the previous cases; it was made clear that things don't end (for the criminals or the cops) when the criminal is jailed.

I'd start a DVD countdown if only SC had given me a release date. DVD! DVD!

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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 6:15 PM

It totally validated my memory of Booker being overplucked


Hee! Well can you imagine how bushy his eyebrows would be if he hadn't waxed or plucked them?

Today's episode, Under the Influence, was another somewhat forgettable 5th Season episode. Notable only for the fugly sweater they put McCann in. Honestly, McCann got some damn ugly clothes to wear. I did have to laugh yesterday though when I saw him in a tie-dye tank top, as I vaguely recall those being popular at one time. Also, this episode marks the end of Joey Penhall's involvement with Jump Street. He goes to visit his brother Doug and simply does not come back.

Anyways, back to the episode. McCann and Penhall infiltrate a high school to find the kids who are terrorizing neighborhood elderly people. A problem occurs though when one of the kids they are investigating is the son of the woman Fuller is dating.

A pretty contrived episode IMO. How convenient that the one woman Fuller finds to date is the mother of someone they are investigating. I realize 21 Jump Street is not Shakespeare, but as this season winded down the writing seemed to get a little sloppy, and the plotlines were a tad farfetched. But from what I understand the Season 5 budget was considerably less because the show no longer had a network to support it. So that could be a reason that the show headed downhill.

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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 8:01 PM

Does anyone know where I can listen to or download the theme song? I've got part of it in my head, but cannot for the life of me remember the rest of it.

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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 8:13 PM

I think any episode where they put Hanson through the ringer (like the episode mentioned upthread where his girlfriend got shot during the convenience store robbery) and Depp got to show his acting chops were fantastic. (Or, maybe it's just a hurt/comfort thing<g>)


The rehab ep and the one where Hanson's G/F was shot are also two of my favourite episodes. I think they were great eps anyway, but yea, seeing Hanson all sad puppy-like was part of the appeal as well, I guess. Once Johnny left the show, I think it was always doomed, eyebrow plucking issues aside.. heee

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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 8:17 PM

mara, try cannell.com. I don't know if the links work (I need to get the theme song out of my head, thank you very much), but they seem to have it in several formats.

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Posted Jan 15, 2004 @ 5:34 PM

mara, go to SoundAmerica.com, they have nearly every TV show theme song that you could want.

Today's episode, Under The Influence, was just all out weird. McCann infiltrates a devil worshipping high school group that the police suspect of beating old homeless people while Fuller pretends to be homeless. While in the group McCann tries to save one boy from the grip of the cult leader.

The episode itself is kind of odd because the only reason really given for the devil worshipping is that kids are disaffected youth. Though it is somewhat amusing that the leader beleives she was wait listed at Stanford because they didn't do a sacrifice the night before. And you get a strange scene of naked McCann and the cult leader hugging, with McCann making a vague reference to the fact that she got herself off so he won't be charged with statutory rape. And of course there is some generic teen angst.

I got the general impression by this time they realized the show wouldn't be coming back, the cast is down to three people, though Hoffs has been "on vacation" for four or five episodes, and the goal of the actors is just to get it over with. And I'm not sure but there was a small shout out to Johnny Depp when McCann says he is going to A Nightmare on Elm Street triple feature, and says that Part 1 was the best of those films.

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Posted Jan 15, 2004 @ 8:06 PM

Thanks txhorns79 and kunju -- cannell.com had the theme but without lyrics, but soundamerica.com had them.

Another episode I remember liking was one where two teenagers were on the run and trying to elope. I forget how the Jump Street cops got involved, but I remember a scene where they were driving somewhere with Hoffs handcuffed in the back seat, then they ditch her at the side of the road somewhere and Penhall finds her. Something about that scene stuck with me -- Hoff's vulnerability, I guess, all alone in the middle of nowhere.

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Posted Jan 19, 2004 @ 5:40 PM

mara, you are thinking of the 2nd Season episode, Cory and Dean Got Married. The Jump Street cops were involved because the girl killed her father because he was trying to prevent her and her boyfriend from eloping. Hoffs and Penhall were escorting her back across the country to prison I would suppose.

Today's episode, Wasted, tackled those all important environmental issues that were so big back in the early 90s. A football player dies on the field of an unexplained heart attack. Fuller, beleiving it was steroids sends McCann to infiltrate the team and find out who the dealer is. Instead, McCann realizes the boy died because toxic waste that was illegaly dumped nearby had seeped into the football field and infected the boy. And there's a subplot about an environmental activist son whose father paid the truckers who did the dumping, but only because the truckers worked for the Mob. And when the father refuses to continue the dumping, the Mob beats him up, so eventually the father and son agree to testify against them even though it means a life in the Witness Protection program.

The plot itself was a little convuluted, and I was a little confused about how if the toxic waste was toxic enough to kill one football player then how come none of the others seemed to be affected? Also the Mob angle was a little silly, I mean the mobster beats the father with a bat in broad daylight where there could be plenty of potential witnesses.
The biggest problem with this episode was the continuity, and jt shows the dangers of trying to shoot a TV show in snowy weather. The problem was that the snow on the ground vanished and reappeared from scene to scene, as obviously the show's scenes were shot out of order. So Mac could be talking to the victim in an inch of snow in one scene and then they "drive down the road", and all the snow has magically melted.

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Posted Jan 22, 2004 @ 5:42 PM

The Jump Street cops were involved because the girl killed her father because he was trying to prevent her and her boyfriend from eloping. Hoffs and Penhall were escorting her back across the country to prison I would suppose.


Oh, yeah -- that jogged the memory. I think they thought that the boyfriend had murdered the father, but by the end of the episode, it was revealed that the girlfriend shot her father because when he found out about their plan to elope, he started beating up the boyfriend to the point where she was afraid he was going to kill him.

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Posted Jan 27, 2004 @ 8:25 PM

Today we had Part 2 of the 21 Jump Street pilot.

Part 1 was highly amusing as we see Officer Hanson sent down to Jump Street because his boss thinks he is too young looking for regular police work. This is after Hanson tries to bust a group of convenience store robbers who refuse to take him seriously and end up stealing his police car.

After getting sent to Jump Street, Hanson meets up with Hoffs, Penhall and Ioki. And we all meet Captain Jenko, a 60s throwback who knows all about undercover work. The first thing that happens is that Hoffs has to teach Hanson how to be a teenager circa 1987. And of course this means putting him in the most ridiculous clothes possible.
That night Hanson goes on his first undercover job, but screws it up much to displeasure of his fellow officers.

In Part 2, Hanson is sent to train in a high school where some of the kids are running a drug and extortion ring. Naturally he ends up busting them, but not before they threaten his life. And everything works out in the end.

A fun two episodes getting to know the characters again. Though if Hanson is supposed to be 21, I found it hard to beleive he had no clue as to what high schoolers were like. Also, Hanson refers to his high school years as groovy a few too many times for someone who supposedly graduated from high school in 1984. And you have to love the 80s cliche that the kids have no clue what went on in the 60s.
Also, it was interesting that Hoffs made a lot bigger deal about her race in the pilot than she ever does during the rest of the series.
Some interesting tidbits include that this pilot is actually the second one shot for the show. The original pilot had an actor named Jeff Yagher playing Hanson, but TPTB at Fox didn't like him, and so Depp was hired and the pilot was reshot with all the Hanson scenes redone.
Also, the original pilot script had Hoffs and Jenko sleeping together.
Finally, this show premiered on the first night Fox was on the air, and was one of the few Fox shows to see a second season that year.

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Posted Jan 27, 2004 @ 10:21 PM

txhorns79 I thank you for these recaps, and I seethe with jealousy. I am totally jonesing for the dvd's, mostly due to you. But from what I'm hearing through the grapevine, I'm more confident than I used to be that the dvd's will happen, unlike some of my more obscure dvd wishes.

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Posted Jan 27, 2004 @ 11:08 PM

I loved this show insanely, so it's good to know that it's still on the air somewhere (even if it isn't where I live, damn it).

Some more interesting guest stars:
Steve Antin (NYPD Blue) episode 1.3
Josh Brolin (Mister Sterling) episode 1.5
Sherilyn Finn (Twin Peaks) episode 1.9
Jason Priestley (90210) episode 1.13, 2.4
Josh Richman (Deadsy's manager) episode 2.2, 2.3, 4.16
Pauly Shore episode ("How'd you know my name was Lisa?") 2.4
Rob Stone (Mr. Belvedere) episode 2.4
Shannon Tweed (Playmate of the Year) episode 2.9
Mindy Cohn (Facts of Life) episode 2.14
Christina Applegate (Married with Children) episode 2.15
Andrew Koenig (BONER on Growing Pains!) episode 2.17
Max Perlich (Whistler from Buffy) episode 2.22
Peri Gilpin (Frasier) episode 3.3
Kelly Hu (X2) episode 3.7
Russell Wong (Black Sash) episode 3.7
Maia Brewton (Parker Lewis Can't Lose) episode 3.11
Larenz Tate (Menace II Society) episode 3.11
Jane Sibbett (lesbian Carol on Friends) episode 3.12
Patrick Labyorteaux (JAG) episode 3.13
Olivia Barash (Albert's girlfriend who was raped by the mime on Little House on the Prairie) episode 3.14
Mario Van Peebles (New Jack City) episode 3.16, 4.3
Conor O'Farrell (Port Charles) episode 3.17, 3.20, 4.1
Jim Carroll (author of the Basketball Diaries) episode 4.2
Rob Estes (Melrose Place/Silk Stalkings) episode 4.2
Thomas Haden Church (Ned and Stacey) episode 4.3
Billy Warlock (Port Charles/Baywatch) episode 4.4
Donovan Leitch (Glory, Ione Skye's brother) episode 4.9
Robyn Lively (Savannah) episode 4.9
Vince Vaughn (Swingers) episode 4.9
Wallace Langham (Veronica's Closet) episode 4.13
Richard Roundtree (Shaft) episode 4.19
Steven Eckholdt (Providence) episode 4.22
Kristin Dattilo (Chris Isaak Show) episode 4.26
Scott Grimes (Party of Five) episode 5.3
Leslie Bega (Head of the Class) episode 5.17
Jada Pinkett (Matrix Reloaded) episode 5.21

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Posted Jan 28, 2004 @ 7:34 PM

mara, Glad I can share with you.

The third episode of the 1st Season, which aired last week, America, What a Town!, had Hanson and Penhall investigating a car theft ring, and Hoffs assigned to watch an Eastern bloc exchange student visiting the country.

Hoffs' plotline was defintely the lightweight plot. Basically her charge is visiting from Soviet controlled Poland, and Hoffs job is to watch her and keep her out of trouble. Of course the Hoffs takes the girl to the mall where she basically turns into "a woman of easy virtue" as they like to say on 7th Heaven almost instantaneously, trading her drab Polish clothes in for some hot 80s threads. She also ditches Hoffs for the first guy she meets, and then for a number of other guys. If I remember right, a few other TV shows at the time did similar plotlines and it's always amusing because they basically were dated only a year or so later.

Hanson and Penhall are investigating a car theft ring that is operating out of a high school shop class. Basically the kids steal the cars for parts and use them for cars they intend to sell at auction. One of the kids is Billy Jacoby who later played Mikey on Parker Lewis Can't Lose, and his partner is the actor who played Troy in The Goonies. This plotline was definetly more serious except for when Capt. Jenko dresses himself up as a cowboy to buy one of the stolen cars.

Overall a good episode, and Penhall has taught me that you can wear a key as an earring and it will only look slightly ridiculous.

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Posted Jan 28, 2004 @ 10:20 PM

Don't forget the penultimate 80s makeover movie: She's Out of Control! Honorary mention goes to Can't Buy Me Love. Interesting trivia - Ami Dolenz starred in SOoC and also appeared in CBML. I just found that out (gotta love imdb!).

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Posted Jan 29, 2004 @ 1:33 PM

I can't believe there is a 21 Jump Street thread here, and I didn't know about it! I loved this show. My crappy VHS tapes are so worn out from repeated viewings. About five years ago I went through them and edited out all the commercials. Now the picture sucks, but I have hours and hours of uninterrupted Jump Street!

I loved the two parter when Hanson infiltrated the street gang, and then was sent to jail for allegedly shooting the cop. Gretzsky, Jordan, Bench, Johnson..9923532.

One of my favorite episodes was when Hanson and Penhall go undercover in the detention center. They are investigating a death, I think. Anyway, I like when Hanson tells Fuller that he's "the Hammer". So funny!

Thanks for the info on the DVD's. They are on my Amazon wish list!

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Posted Jan 29, 2004 @ 7:50 PM

Pronger44 have you voted for the show over at TVShowsOnDVD? The site will send you an e-mail whenever there's any news on a show you've selected. And some people in the industry do look at the rankings of shows at that site when they're doing market research, so your votes do count for something.

I listened to Johnny Depp's Pirates of the Caribbean commentary this weekend (it was him & the director Verbinski) and enjoyed it. While I doubt Depp would have anything to do with the bonus features of a Jump Street dvd, I think it would be hilarious to hear him trashing his 80's outfits and acting. I know he hated the whole Teen Idol thing that went along with Jump Street, and I seem to recall him sounding awfully bitter about it back when he was first getting into movies. I wonder if time has mellowed his perspective at all?

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Posted Jan 29, 2004 @ 9:54 PM

Speaking of Pirates of the Caribbean, this is the funniest thing I saw all week: http://blithesea.net/bk/pirates_.html

I haven't watched PotC with the Johnny Depp/Gore Verbinski commentary yet, but I always think it is interesting to see which actors have something interesting or insightful to say and which ones resort to the "this is the part where I _______" kind of crap. Johnny Depp comes off as a very intelligent person, so I would expect his commentary to be decent.

I do hope 21 Jump Street makes it to DVD, but based on the older shows that have been released (My So-Called Life definitely comes to mind), I am not counting on any of the original actors to be involved with the bonus materials.

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Posted Jan 29, 2004 @ 11:45 PM

the funniest thing I saw all week


Bwah! Too funny.

As far as older tv-show bonus features, it just depends on which distributor gets it, and how involved the creative team are. My So-Called Life was done by BMG, and it looks like that's the only dvd they've done, so they must not have a clue how to do it. Whereas Anchor Bay has been doing a very good job with the Highlander series dvds, recording commentaries, episode introductions by the creators and other cast & crew, outtakes, etc.

Whoever gets Jump Street will probably have some hefty music clearance costs, which could eat up the budget for extras, but they might be able to scrape some kind of featurette together. I'm normally a total features-hound, but I'd settle for a no-frills Jump Street set if that's what it ends up being.

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Posted Jan 30, 2004 @ 2:32 AM

My So-Called Life was done by BMG, and it looks like that's the only dvd they've done, so they must not have a clue how to do it.


I think it was a combination of things with MSCL - including the fact that Another Universe (the company that was originally the sole distributor) did not want to shell out for too much extra stuff. There were some cast interviews scheduled that were to be included in the bonus features, but they fell through. The cast interviews were not with Claire Danes or Jared Leto though - neither of them want much to do with the show anymore, much in the same way that I would imagine Johnny Depp doesn't want to be remembered for 21 Jump Street. I agree with you though - it's better to have the DVD without any extras than to not have the DVD at all!

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Posted Jan 30, 2004 @ 10:47 AM

Also, the original pilot script had Hoffs and Jenko sleeping together.

Why does this squick me out so much? She's obviously of age. But it still creeps me out. I think a little of it carried over to the finished episode, because there are a few looks and a few pet names that I noticed.

Why was Johnny Depp so eager to work with FF? What in particular would he have seen to impress him so much (IMDb wasn't much help to me here)?

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Posted Jan 30, 2004 @ 6:15 PM

I'm normally a total features-hound, but I'd settle for a no-frills Jump Street set if that's what it ends up being.

That's what I pretty much expect it to be. I don't know how much interest the other cast members would have in participating, but I highly doubt Johnny Depp would participate. I know he hated the show while he was on it, and perhaps he has mellowed on the topic, but given the fact that he's a famous movie star now, I can't see doing the commentary for a 21 Jump Street DVD high on his list of priorities.

Why was Johnny Depp so eager to work with FF?

I wish I could help you on that kunju. I did the IMDB thing as well, and saw they did a movie together in 1997 called the Brave. FF had a fairly decent career before 21 Jump Street, perhaps Depp had seen his work on one of those projects and thought he would be someone good to work with?

And speaking of Frederic Forrest, today was his last episode as Capt. Jenko, The Worst Night of Your Life. Hoffs goes undercover at a private Catholic school to figure out who has been setting fires on campus. The B-plot has Penhall trying to get a date, and instead getting mugged by a girl he picks up.

Overall, a decent episode. It's funny to see the whole gang getting dressed up for the school's prom, and to hear Hoff's embarrasing prom story. The plotline still reasonates today as it concerns an unpopular girl, teased by her classmates, who wants to get revenge on them, while making herself a martyr. And Penhall's plotline adds just the right amount of humor.
Not exactly the best send-off for Jenko, but I have a feeling no one realized he was going to be replaced.

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Posted Feb 4, 2004 @ 10:04 AM

There's an encouraging news item over at TVShowsOnDVD for Jump Street this morning.

Looking at the text of the actual response from Cannell Company

Thank you for your email! At this time we are working towards releasing 21 Jump Street on DVD. As we are in the beginning of the process, it will be some time until the DVD is released, so keep checking our website for further information and updates!

Sincerely,

The Cannell Company


it still seems pretty vague to me. "Working towards releasing" could mean that they're just getting bids from distributors. But at least it's on someone's radar.

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Posted Feb 4, 2004 @ 2:58 PM

mara, you beat me to it! I was so excited when I read the snippet at tvshowsondvd, so hopefully the DVDs will come to fruition soon!

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Posted Feb 9, 2004 @ 5:56 PM

it still seems pretty vague to me. "Working towards releasing" could mean that they're just getting bids from distributors. But at least it's on someone's radar.

That does seem pretty vague. I figured they would try to get them out ASAP to capitalize on Johnny Depp's Oscar nomination.

Today's episode, 16 Blown to 35, had the gang infiltrating a teen modeling agency after one of it's former models claims she had been roped into doing porn films by the agency head, which set her on the path to becoming a junkie.
The B plot involves a vist from Fuller's newly rastified (or at least the 1987 version of rastification) son.

The main focus of the episode though is Hoffs and her reactions as the agency head builds the models up, only to tear them down, so they will be more bendable to his will. The only problem with the episode is after busting the perp on the set of a porn film, Hoffs destroys the incriminating film in order to protect the teenage girl who the agency head took advantage of from the embarrasment of the film becoming public. Now I can't imagine any police officer being able to get away with the blatant destruction of evidence, and Hoffs lucks out only because a former porn star agrees to testify that she began doing films when she was 15. The issues the plotline raises, about image and how society tells you what you should be are still valid today though. And made a little cornier only by the 80s fashions on parade at the fashion show.

The B plot moves pretty typically. Fuller finds out his son has changed because he wants to get his father's attention and yada yada yada...they come to a new understanding.

A little trivia on the episode is that the show's producer plays a "porn actor" in the videotape Hanson, Ioki and Penhall watch.

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Posted Jun 4, 2004 @ 5:12 PM

"Jump Street" (I thought it was "21 Jump Street"---my mother) comes on in syndication here, and it's awesome. (Yes, I live in a time warp. Though I'm in my early 20s, I'm all about the 80s) It's when Johnny Depp was hott. People still see his hotness now...but I don't get it. "Jump Street" was one of the epitomes of the 80s.

My only qualm (there is almost always a qualm with me) is that Holly Robinson's character was "too soft." I never got in those cop shows that the females were always weaker, used as decoys, etc. There are female cops that can kick all sorts of ass, IRL. Judy could talk tough, but she couldn't defend herself physically. (I remember the ep where she and Harry went undercover in a civilian patrol group, and the issue was brought up about how she was defenseless unarmed. And also, the one where Tom gets stuck in a mental institution, and she and Det. Fuller go to find him...and they were going to split up and search, but she got scared and they ended up having to stay together.) Heck, I don't remember her even taking down a female baddie!

Edited by RealChic1999, Jun 4, 2004 @ 5:16 PM.