Sue Thomas F.B.Eye
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 5:46 PM
They started showing new eps last Sunday and I'd like to chat...
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 6:42 PM
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Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 3:42 PM
Anyway...you'll also see that Sue's being deaf in her chosen profession is not all cat kraut and roses.
Oh, don't blamce CTV for the lack of STFBE. The problem is PAX TV here in the states. They're having serious money issues with NBC et al and I don't think they're able to put out continuous eps of this. I've heard the ratings are good, but they used to advertised heavily both STFBE and Doc on the local radio stations here in Chicago and this year - little or nothing.
Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 8:42 PM
From where I live, I can get some radio stations from Buffalo and I've heard the promotions for STFBE. I hope everything between PAX and NBC works out though.
Posted Jan 15, 2004 @ 1:51 PM
I wonder is PAX can't afford to run eps until they get income from other sources first, like CTV? It's been mighty quiet on this side of the 49th parellel where PAX is concerned.
NBS broke off their alliance with PAX and is suing PAX for $600 million, so that relationship is officially kaput.
I think STFBE is a really good show. DOC ain't bad either. But PAX obviously needs cash and real marketing people, as well as a mission statement.
Anyway...what did you think of "Bad Hair Day"?
Well, let me know what You see next - umm, when you see it.
Posted Jan 16, 2004 @ 11:00 PM
"Bad Hair Day" gave me a new appreciation for Tara. I usually think she's useless but man, she was great in that episode. And of course it just affirmed my love for Jack and Bobby. When guys go into protective mode it is so sweet.
Posted Jan 17, 2004 @ 11:16 PM
Why is NBC suing PAX? Gah, I hope this doesn't affect the show...I'm really starting to get attached.
Posted Jan 19, 2004 @ 2:21 PM
I don't know what's up but we've had one new STFBE since December and there's a re-run scheduled for this Sunday.
RE: Jack and Sue: I wish Jack would pull his balls out of storage and tell her how really feels about her instead of having that pained suicidal look on his face when he sees her and David together.
You're right, Jack and Bobby are real cuties, but I'm a Demetrius woman, personally!!!
Posted Mar 22, 2004 @ 10:56 PM
We just got the episode about the Holocause Survivor, what about you guys in the State?
You know if Sue Thomas is having trouble staying on the air because of Pax's troubles, I don't see why CTV can't step in and help out since it is filmed in Toronto and they do have alot of production rights to it. Not to mention it is extremely popular here. It's supposed to be the most watched original Canadian drama [I suppose it's Canadian cause it's filmed here and most of the set and crew are Canadian]
Posted Mar 25, 2004 @ 3:56 PM
We haven't seen the Holocause ep yet, not getting new eps until beginning of April. Maybe now that they've made a commitment plus PAX hired a real development director a few months ago, we'll get the ball rolling.
Is the Holocaust ep as good as the PAX message boards say it is? We'll see it on 4/11, I believe, but it would have been more appropriate I think to braodcast it on Yom Ha'Shoah (4/18), which is Holocaust Remembrance Day.
If you've got Showtime and you're a little liberal (OK. a lot liberal) you can see Jack & Demetrius on Soul Food. This week's ep. I think they rerun it tonight on Showtime 2 and rerun it on Showtime 1 Sunday night. Both of them are playing against the type we're used to seeing, especially "D".
Posted Mar 25, 2004 @ 6:30 PM
The Holocaust Ep was really powerful although there are some uhm ..."Nazi" cliches but I still think it was really well done.
And I watch Law and Order and all three of its spinoffs so I guess I'm pretty liberal, lol. I don't think I have Showtime though. I've seen Jack in that Agatha Christie made-for-TV-movie. He definitely played somebody very un-Jack in that movie.
Posted Mar 25, 2004 @ 6:48 PM
I'm so glad for all involved. PAX has really dragged its heels on airing the new episodes here in the US so I wasn't sure what to expect. It's a show we really enjoy, and I'm delighted it's coming back.
Posted Mar 25, 2004 @ 10:20 PM
I saw the renewal info on the Toronto Star web edition and the PAX-TV STFBE message board.
I've been posting on the PAX board and reading it for a couple of weeks. Deanne Bray thanked everyone for supporting the show, and allowing for the renewal.
It's a little awkward for me because I'm not the most "verbally tidy person" (as Howard Stern would say) so I think really hard before I write.
SInce you don't get Showtime Tangerine, I'll tell you the synopsis: Jack/Yannick begins his affair with his black female boss (he consumates it next week) and Demetrius/Marc Gomes plays a porno movie director/producer. They allusion is he advanced up from being a porno actor - so definitely against type from their STFBE roles.
Since Showtime is subscription, there are some pretty grahic scenes.
I know PAX is all about clean TV, so I wonder how STFBE producers felt about the guys doing those roles?
Oh, and I am a MAJOR L&O fan since it first premiered in 1991! I loyally watch L&O 1 and SVU, but I can't really get into CI.
Posted Mar 25, 2004 @ 11:05 PM
After getting burned by PAX/Lions Gate not working out the third season of Mysterious Ways after the producer dropped into the PAX board to say it was already a go, I tend to be a little gunshy about PAX renewals...
Regarding the actors doing more liberal work, pre-STFBE, Yannick did a pretty racy episode of Mutant X, and between S1 and S2 he popped up on an episode of 1-800-Missing playing a not-so-nice guy cheating on his missing girlfriend.
Posted Mar 26, 2004 @ 12:29 AM
>>This was posted by Deanne Bray yesterday:
Thanks for being supportive of Holocaust Survivor. I must say that I am proud of Phyllis's work and am still honored that she actually was involved in Fbeye. She gave her 110 percent.
Yannick is fun to work with and is open in learning signs and in doing it the right way. Very easy to work with.
Season 3 is going to be picked up! Thank you for supporting our show...
The Kiss... It will air in May. I cannot give it away since it is good for the audience to be on their toes wondering...
Have a great week!
God Bless and Have a Great Day!
I get your point totally about PAX. I really liked "Body & Soul" and thought that it had an adult subject matter feel without compromising the network's clean image.
Allegedly, PAX was wants to get into "Edgier Fare". From some of the MGM moveis they broadcast, maybe that's what they're trying to do.
I like STFBE because it's a totally femist show without knowing it, really empowering! Think about it: a smart "phyiscally imperfect" blonde with a dark-skinned best friend who's not just filling a quota but showing real women being real friends. Don't see much of that on network TV. Plus, I can watch with my kid.
As I said, I'm still a major L&O junkie and nothing beats the HBO dramas (I have to catch them after family viewing hour on the West cable stations).
PAX had major financial stuff going. Still does. I'm willing to bet know one wants to buy the network and take on their debt so they have to save the family farm. Keep in mind, DOC and STFBE are they're anchors.
I think you can breathe easy.
Posted Mar 26, 2004 @ 11:23 PM
Anyways back on topic...I don't get Showcase but I guess the equivalent of that is Showtime. I've seen Yannick do some pretty un-family roles before and NickChick, I've actually seen that episode of Mutant X he was in. Racy? Yes but he can't help it if he's hot. Not to mention the character he played in the Agatha Christie movie ("Loves Music, Loves to Dance") was on the schizo psycho-side. I thought he did both the Steve and Charley characters really well It just shows his versatility as an actor.
I too, wonder how the guys at PAX felt about the more shady roles Marc and Yannick did pre-STFBE. I suppose it's understandable though since they both pretty much have families of their own and would want to get into more family-based shows.
I totally adore this show and I am so thrilled it's getting picked up for Season 3. I don't know if it's getting picked up in the States but TV Tome did say something about the renewal.
Some of the shows I watch are alot more "edgier" and less family-oriented but this one definitely stands out from the rest. I love how they can make it crime-based but still make it appropriate for everyone to watch. *hugs the show*
Posted Mar 27, 2004 @ 2:00 PM
Vincent D'onofrio is a little too intense for me in that role. A little of him goes a long way.
I agree with you about L&O Classic's DA. I like her, but if you look at the ADA's before her, they're pretty much ice dollies. She is smart, and holds her ground in an argument. I like that!
The Showtime ep is re-run tomorrow night (Sunday) on Showtime. I'm thinking that PAX was not that concerened about the roles Marc and Yannick had done before, and obviously gave them permission to the Soul Food ep as it was filmed while STFBE was filming it's second season. Perhaps as actors they don't want to be type-casted as "family-oriented" and limit their choice of of roles.
The one thing I noticed on the PAX meaage board is a complete silence about the Soul Food ep, while I've seen mega-clammering for seeing the actors in other roles.
So, how are the new eps? We get the new ones starting 4/4.
Posted Mar 27, 2004 @ 7:01 PM
And I'd understand why ppl on the PAX forums wouldn't want to talk about the more shady roles since PAX is supposed to be all 'family-friendly' they probably just want to try to keep the two as separate as possible.
You'll enjoy the new episodes definitely. The next one that's coming up here [in an hour, yay!] is the one where Bobby and Jack's mentor come to give them a new assignment that leads them to a North Korea group or something like that.
Posted Mar 28, 2004 @ 1:21 AM
Now that the show has been renewed and their is allegedly new cash infusion, I am hoping they can flesh out the characters more. Make Myles a little more three-dimensional, give Tara a little more to do than sit behind the computer, bring Garrett out into the field as he hinted he wanted to be when he became their boss.
Also, I would like to see a little less world terrorism. I know it's topical, but the FBI deals with so much mores stuff (just look at The Sopranos). I realize that sniffing out supremacists groups and mafioso may get a little dicey to make family-oriented, but I remember the old FBI show with Efrem Zimbalist (I was a really little kid) and they did it during family hour of 1970.
Oh, the scripts that I could draft for STFBE.
SO, come on, I think Myles is pretty cute too in a Mr. Potato-head kind of way. It's our differences that make us sexy!
Posted Mar 28, 2004 @ 5:05 PM
Myles I don't ever really care for because all I've ever seen of him as comedic relief. Maybe fleshing him out a bit more will help me actually decide to care more.
Also, bring back Charlie, I love Charlie!
And yes, I too think about the scripts I could write for STFBE...which is why there's fanfiction. Thank goodness for fanfiction.
I think the whole entire cast is sexy in their own very unique way. I just can't really bring myself to care about Myles. Sorry =D
Posted Mar 28, 2004 @ 8:59 PM
I've seen Ted Atherton (Myles) in other stuff and he's a good actor. I stand my potato-head-sexy comment, though. Lucy liked hime, really liked him in the beginning so there must be something hot about him. Maybe he's good - if you know what I mean. She didn't take the breakup lightly. They should give him a permanent girlfriends, someone like Grace on "Will & Grace". He needs a high maintenance woman to take the attention away from himself.
As for Demetrius! He takes my breathe away. They can lose his wife and kids - it's not like we seem 'em anyway. If I saw that man on the street, it would be him and me - but mostly me. I'd gladly do all of the work!
If Tara's going to be a computer geek, she should dress like one. Yeah, it possible at the FBI, they do allow casual for a lot of the agents.
Oh, two questions:
How was "The Mentor"? and "Who's 'Stan'?
Posted Mar 29, 2004 @ 5:37 PM
When I saw Myles for the first time, I knew he looked familiar although I couldn't put my finger on it. I've probably seen Ted Atherton on some other show before but just can't remember. He certainly is a good actor, I'll definitely admit. And I've actually never seen the first few episodes of STFBE but I did know Myles and Lucy were together. Funny, I couldn't see that at all haha.
Well at least it's good to know we won't be fighting over the same guys Ali, haha.
"The Mentor" was a very good episode. I like getting to know a bit more about Jack and Bobby's past. Alot of unexpected twists, you'll enjoy it. And Dimitrius gets a promotion! Well kind of a promotion.
And Stan is from the episode 'The Lawyer'. He's sent in by the NSA to help the FBI decode messages that are being sent by the terrorists and he has a little crush on Tara. It's adorable really.
Posted Mar 30, 2004 @ 1:20 AM
I try hard to stay away from stereotypes and insist that everyone else stay away from them too! (LOL)!
Ted Atherton played a backwoods racist pedophile in a Showtime movie that was shot awhile ago. I forgot the name, I think it was "Whitewash". I'll have to re-check. Needless to say, the antithesis of Myles Leland, III. He was incredibly believable. When he popped us as Myles on STFBE, it was a little off-putting, ESPECIALLY since he was hooked up with Lucy. Getting his typecasting insurance in early. I think he also play a drug dealer on "Streetwise".
OK, I'm a body part freak. See, Myles (Ted) has these big ears that I can just set my imagination to (when I know you better, I'll tell you better), but anyway...I like his ears. That Gary Cooper thang...
But, I am total freak for Demetrius. I LOVE his widows peak and that blue vein that runs across his forhead and those long fingers and I'll stop now!!!
I know Jack and Bobby went through the whole gambling thing in their past. Did you see that ep? Bobby had a bad gambling problem in the past and fail off the wagonwith FBI money and his own. Jack got him back straight an he cleaned uo his act. I hope they continue to trend of letting us know how they all came to sign on board with the FBI.
Actually, I LOVE Canada and Canadians. I've been there several times to Toronto. Born in Chicago but one day hope to be "re-birthed" in Toronto.
Posted Mar 30, 2004 @ 8:18 PM
I really don't happen to notice body parts all that much. When people say somebody ears/nose/eyes/mouth whatever are awkward looking because of whatever I never ever notice until somebody mentions it. I'm just that way I suppose
And you really love Dimitrius, Ali. I live in Toronto so maybe I should go down and take some photos for you haha.
Yes! I saw The Gambler and really enjoyed it. My only complaint was that they should have gone more into Bobby's past and cut the Levi-getting-lost storyline shorter. I mean I love Levi and I wish he was my dog, but I'm more interested in the Agents. Sorry Bobby.
You don't really learn much about Jack and Bobby's past and how they got into the FBI but you do know that they graduated from Quantico together and have been in the same squad pretty much ever since.
Posted Mar 30, 2004 @ 10:29 PM
Clay Aiken, huh? He's cute but I like 'em a little older and more butcher, hence Demetrius!
Nah, David's a cutie, actually. Reminds me of what Robbie Benson would look like in in his early thirties, remember him? (I am sold old and the 70's ROCKED!!!)
Remember the informant that got a crush on Sue and Jack had to tell him to back off; then in another ep he found out for Jack that the woman was lying about Jack killing her chicken's libido? He also helped them look for Levi? Yeah, that guy, with the porckpie hat. I forgot his character name, but he sales stolen merchandise on the street. He's got the total perv look going.
I agree. They've got great stories to tell through the agents, but the scripts get weak because they try to give equal focus to the subplots. They should stick to an agent's story and maybe have some of the subplots anthologize - continue over the course of several episodes, or vice versa and have the main story antohologize.
Bobby seems like a bad boy (the accent, maybe?) and we know his dad definitely is so it would be nice to explore how he got there.
It would also be nice to meet Myles family and find that although they're rich, maybe they're a little trashy to boot and Myles is putting on errs (sp?).
Also, Sue has been accepted by everyone and the public doesn't seem to wig out about her being deaf, so maybe the writers could play it less a deal professionally but delve into how she's effected personally in her day-to-day. In Bad Hair Day I really wondered how she communicated with her stylist. My car wash attendant is deaf, doesn't read lips (went deaf several years ago in his thirties) so we have to write him notes.
And yes, if you see "D", put him in a box and send him COD to Chicago. I got your back!
PS: the 2/17/04 Family Circle has a profile of the real Sue Thomas and a sidebar on Deanne Bray. If you can't find it (it's noton the net) and you want it I can scan and send to you.
Posted Mar 31, 2004 @ 4:33 PM
Paxson Says it Won't Pay NBC: Paxson Communications Chairman and CEO Lowell "Bud" Paxson said Tuesday that his company doesn't have to redeem NBC's 32 percent stake in the broadcaster this November because it doesn't have the money and because the terms of Paxson's debt prohibit it from making such a payment.
"Legally, we don't have a dispute with NBC," Mr. Paxson said during a conference call to discuss the company's fourth-quarter earnings. "The agreements speak for themselves."
Mr. Paxson's comments represent the latest back-and-forth between Paxson and NBC over the fate of NBC's 32 percent stake in the West Palm Beach broadcaster and television station owner.
Last fall, NBC exercised its right to have Paxson redeem the stake, and has told the company to pay the Big Three network by Nov. 13. However, Paxson officials believe they are not required to pay NBC, saying instead that NBC has the right to transfer the stake to a third party if it wants to dump the investment.
The value of the stake is now estimated at $557 million. Paxson said it has $100 million in cash on hand, and its debt stood at $925.6 million as of Dec. 31.
Pointing to a debt refinancing made in January, Mr. Paxson said lawyers again reviewed the NBC agreement and agreed that NBC can't force Paxson to buy back the stake. "Yes, we have an obligation to NBC, but not an obligation to sell assets, or pay money we don't have," Mr. Paxson said. "They are junior to our indebtedness."
Meanwhile, Mr. Paxson said his company's program development initiative with NBC continues to make progress, and that it soon will announce several new shows, all of which are original and not repurposed fare.
Mr. Paxson warned that the company's programming costs would rise as a result of the NBC relationship, but said the increase would not be significant. He added that NBC will continue to run the Pax network's upfront efforts.
"The relationship with NBC has been really changed in the last month or so," Mr. Paxson said.
Separately, Paxson reported a narrowed fourth-quarter loss of $51.8 million, or 73 cents a share, from a year-earlier loss of $75.3 million, or $1.16 a share. Revenue fell 3 percent to $82.4 million, largely due to lost revenue at stations that had been sold.
For the year, the company's red ink was $146.3 million, or $2.14 a share, from year-earlier red ink of $450.7 million, or $6.95 a share. Revenue for the year fell 2 percent to $317 million.
Posted Mar 31, 2004 @ 6:59 PM
Unfortunately I don't remember who Robbie Benson is haha. But David is a cutie although I can't vouch that his personality is exciting at all.
OH! And you mean Howie! Yeah Howie's kind of creepy although he can be endearing. I've only seen him in the first episode he was in and when Levi was lost.
And yes I definitely want to know more about the Agent's families. I definitely want to know more about Bobby's real father partially because I love Bobby and another because the actor who played his father [I don't even remember his name now] was pretty amazing. He's a pretty well-known Canadian actor really [Yet I can't remember his name, ha]
I think Myles is probably rich. He did go to Harvard and when people have the first or the second or the third after their name, I think, rich.
And HAH! Paris Hilton as Myles' sister...I can sort of see that but I hope she gets better at acting first.
Just a lil note, it's the forum's policy that you just edit the last post you made if you have something else to add. It doesn't bother me that much but it is policy so yeah, just take note =D
And darn it CTV...step in and help PAX out a little why don't you!
Posted Mar 31, 2004 @ 9:12 PM
Howie, yep, that's him. "Psychotic but sensitive, wacked but warm". He looks like he out to be in an HBO documentary or a "Cops" episode. You guys get Cops in Canada? Hellooooo, Central Casting!
Bobbie's dad was hot! I've never seen him before but I'd be curious to find out more. Actually he and Bobby favored one another, they really could have been related.
AND YEAH, MILES IS RICH! That's why he buys artwork, new cars and fine suits and wine. He was on the lacrosse team at Harvard, yada yada. I think that's what Lucy saw in him - the refined gentleman - turned out to be a dog anyway!
Thinking further about it, I don't think that Paris Hilton would make it past the PAX sensors, but she's connected so you never know. And her acting ain't that bad, she's got those farm boys believing that she really really likes them!
Robbie Benson: rent a movie called "Ice Castles" or "The Chosen". He was the teen dream of the 70's. I'm soooo old! But he's good clean fun.
As for PAX, they made the deal with NBC that they would rebroadcast NBC shows. Maybe I'm nuts but what NBC show would play on PAX, Will & Grace, Coupling, Whoopi? What were they all smokin'?
If it weren't for CTB plus foreign syndication, I don't think DOC & STFBE OR PAX would be around. But PAX promises to bring edgier, adult-oriented programming this fall. They're announcing the lineup in May at SHOWEST.
We'll see...and I get a new ep SUnday and you get a rerun Saturday! NaNa, Nana, Nana!
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