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Posted Jul 11, 2006 @ 5:39 PM

I think our teachers can opt for a 12-month pay cycle. You get less per month but you have funds the entire yeawr. (sic)

Actualy, the 12-month cycle for pay is weird because, as celticann notes, the Sep-June checks are smaller not just because there's the cut deducted for the summer warrents, but also because the summer checks don't have medical/vision/union dues/etc deducted. So the summer checks are significantly larger than the school-year checks. But the district gets the interest on your pay. If dawsnzchck's district offers this, I wouldn't recommend it, unless she's like my friend who mysteriously ran out of money in early August one year. Now she has the district save her money and send her the July and August checks. I prefer to pay all my summer bills in April and May (except the mortgage, obviously). Then I'm quite happy in June and July (movies, food, Target money), ok in August (not as many movies and the food isn't as good) and very sad in September where I have to work 6 weeks before I even see the first paycheck.

frewen, how many days is the school year in Germany? In California, the students have a 180-day school year, while the teachers go only an extra 2 days for staff inservice. In some part of my brain, I actually know the precise number of minutes our school year has to be by state law.

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Posted Jul 11, 2006 @ 7:37 PM

Our school district credit union has a plan to spread the paychecks out over the 12 months, and you get the benefit of your interest being in your account. Thank goodness, I now have a 12 month job, but for 15 years, I did have a school session only job, and I got to where I couldn't face another turkey hot dog.

A weird thing happened yesterday. I got a misdirected piece of mail meant for a legal firm in Washington DC that was sent from Ireland. I checked out the firm, and they deal in international patents. I'm just wondering how mail that is supposed to be in DC winds up in Long Beach, California! And then, today, I get a postcard from a friend visiting Ireland with pictures of dead Irish Writers. Obviously, a fellow WingNut!

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Posted Jul 11, 2006 @ 8:24 PM

I had to check who Syd Barrett was

For any Pink Floyd fans among us, my nom be poste shows that I obviously did not have to check who he was. Often called brilliant, but troubled, he inspired some of the groups best music. He just couldn't handle what was given him, and like so many artists of that time he burned brightly, but too quickly.

Shine On, You Crazy Diamond......

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Posted Jul 11, 2006 @ 9:21 PM

Pet Peeve: doctors who overbook so they can pay for their Jags. I sat in a waiting room for 1.5 hours after my appointment time...for a 5 minute visit.

2 to 1 odds it was an ob/gyn appt?

Really? Where do I sign up for a 5-minute ob/gyn appt?

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Posted Jul 11, 2006 @ 10:26 PM

(...counting the seconds until Ali chimes in...)

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 1:42 AM

Really? Where do I sign up for a 5-minute ob/gyn appt?


Madam, your chariot has arrived.

Alan - I love you.

How does everyone know everyone else's birthday on the boards? Do you just check their profile page, or is there some sort of an automatic update thingy, like there used to be on ICQ?

I need your opinion on something:

So I have this friend (hint, hint; wink, wink; nudge, nudge), and they are not happy with their current job (are you happy with your wash?). The thing is they have only been there for less than a year, so it does not look that great in their cv. Also, they are at a certain age, where some sort of a step up in their career is necessary; they can't, well, they don't want to start another entry-level position. They really can't see any sort of a promotion happening at their current job for at least another 3-5 years, and the amount of travel they were promised during the interviews has turned out to be a lie. One highly positive aspect: They have a knack for organisational skills, and usually finish all they have to do for that day in the first two hours or so, after which they loaf about on the net, a favourite pastime. Also, the pay is not bad; in fact, it's above average.

They have, kind of, started looking for another job, but not that seriously. What do you think they should do? Grin and bear it, and surf the web all day, every day, for the next few years until the cv looks a bit better (or fuller), or seriously start looking for another job?

Oh, the fun of not using a pseudonym...

Edited by Ali Arikan, Jul 12, 2006 @ 1:55 AM.


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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 1:58 AM

I've always been of the opinion that whenever possible, one shouldn't do a job that one doesn't love. As long as there is the freedom to make a move or a change--ie, no kids, bills/mortgage, etc--why is later better? You...r friend should be happy, and that would include being challenged professionally and mentally on a daily level.

Edited by english, Jul 12, 2006 @ 1:59 AM.


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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 2:48 AM

I've always been of the opinion that whenever possible, one shouldn't do a job that one doesn't love.


Yup. I agree. Not that I can talk, but if you can get a job which is more demanding and will make you happier professionally then go for it. Start looking, you never know it might take you telling your boss that you're leaving to make them offer you something better. Or at least that is how it seems to work with my brother.

Have a look and see what is out there. You'll never know otherwise.

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 3:50 AM

Sympathies to the Dsayko family and congrats Kolonaki and dawsnzchck.

CJ Haughey - my condolences on the passing of your namesake. I got a million text messages while I was away about it. Also what has happened to House, I see from the listings that it is not on next Thursday on Channel 6. Instead we've got Law and f**king Order. I am not a happy bunny. Also that dust problem seems to have occurred at my house too, when I watched the WW finale that had been taped. Cried like a baby. - Lehiff

Welcome back Dude! Couldn’t believe it when CJ Haughey died. But, you know, may he rot and all that, the swindling bastard. I’ve no idea about House on Channel 6, having not watched five minutes of anything on that station since it launched. I hear you about the dust thing but I didn’t cry when WW ended. It felt it was time for it to go. I will still bawl over Doctor Who.

Wasn't it just wonderful, in a gut-wrenching, emotionally draining kind of way? Who'd have thought that Billie Piper was quite as talented as she's turned out to be? The part, just after the Void had been closed? Wow. - Maxie

You’ve got a weird double post in a post thing going on here Maxie. Anyway I watched it again last night and cried worse than I did at the weekend. Especially at that part. Just the way she is sobbing her heart out and crying to be sent back and he’s leaning up against the wall on his side. Of course the farewell on the beech set me off absolutely howling again. She’s crying, The Doctor is crying and I’m sitting there bawling like an eejit. What a complete wuss. Do you know I don’t think I’ve ever cried like that over something on television or in a film? What’s even worse, it’s Billie Piper that made me do it! Billie Because We Want To Piper!! I mean… how is that even remotely possible?

Altogether, I had a terrific visit to Ireland this time. I had the good craic. And again no rain! Although I don't think the Europeans have made much progress since the days of Thomas Crapper. Seriously, the worst toilets. And such promise with the bidet. Take a hint and try adding some water to the bowl. - GraydonCarter

You can "have the craic" or "you had good craic." No definite article with that one! :D What’s with the toilets? Aren’t they the same all over the Western World? If (as Maxie said) you meant public toilets then I agree. :::: Shudder::::

Have a look and see what is out there. You'll never know otherwise. – Maxie

Ali, I agree and I’d advise taking a pay cut if it means doing something you love. Seriously, the best thing I ever did was chuck in an extremely well paid permanent and pensionable job and go for a contract. The ol' CV was fine on qualifications but not much else so something needed to be done. It took me five years to get off contract again but now I’ve a job I love. If you've no mortgage or kids to worry about then now is the time to do it.

Edited by CJ Haughey, Jul 12, 2006 @ 3:54 AM.


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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 4:26 AM

You’ve got a weird double post in a post thing going on here Maxie.


Nah, I just repeat myself all the time. Nah, I just repeat myself all the time.

Belated congrats to Kolonaki. Thanks for being understanding and not laughing at my Elgin Marbles faux pas.

We watched a programme about the Kelvingrove Museum in Glasgow. It's been closed for 3 years and MrMaxie as been working on it's reopening (although only a wee bit as he only started in February). There were a couple of quality NLTA moments during it, when they went to interview the taxidermist who announced that he'd been trying to stuff beavers all week. Said with a completely straight face. Hee.

We're babysitting my wee cousins this evening. The youngest is a mad Doctor Who fan (she's only 3). I don't know how she's going to cope with the loss of Rose, because she got taken to the hospital with a fever and the nurse said that she'd need to wait to see the doctor, my wee cuz pipes up, "Will he have Rose with him?". My Arthur C. Clarke loving uncle is so pleased with his sci-fi lovin' progeny. :-)

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 4:41 AM

In Germany educational matters are decided about by the federal states, english, not by school boards and school districts. Basically, this has led to a situation where we have a rotating system of when the summer holidays begin each year. They want to keep the road traffic flowing and avoid major travelling waves in all federal states at the same time, so the beginnings (and ends) of the summer holidays are spread out over several weeks in summer depending which of the sixteen states you live in.

Also, since Bavaria in Southern Germany is a major tourist destination, they always get to go last. Many families work in tourism, and the idea is to have them deal with their guests from all over Germany first while their own kids are still in school and then have them start their own holidays once the other states go back to school.

In my case (Northrhine-Westphalia), the last school year has been incredibly short because we switched from late summer holidays to first in the line. I actually had to count the school days in my calendar, but we started relatively late last year and ended first, so this evens out to 182 school days. I can tell you I did feel the stress as everything was happning simultaneously and had so little time to get everything done. The next year will be a bit better (i.e. ironically, longer), as we start our next summer vacation another week earlier than this year, but it will still be more since we get back very early, too. The year after that, when we will go from the beginning of the line to somewhere in the late middle, will be much longer.

Do you have fixed dates for your summer vacation every year?

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 5:32 AM

frewen - According to this rotational system, then, what are the earliest and latest dates for summer vacation, and the earliest and latest dates for when schools get back? We used to adhere to a different set of dates at St. George's back in the day - based around the GCSE/A-Level timetables, I think.

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 6:01 AM

Ah school holidays. The Scottish schools went off on holiday on the 29th of June but the English schools don't go on holiday until the end of July I think. I was going into Tesco on the 29th of June, and a woman working there walked passed me wearing her "back to school with Tesco" t-shirt. Lord! The kids have just got home from their last day at school; the teachers are probably still there. Let them enjoy it before you remind them their holidays are nearly up.

I see Klinnsman has had enough of the German job, then frewen? That's a shame as he did a really good job with that team.

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 6:34 AM

Ali, this year we are the earliest with our summer vacation dates (26/6 - 8/8), and we go back to school only days after the last federal state (Baden-Württemberg, around Stuttgart and down to Lake Constance, roughly) begin theirs (3/8 - 16/9). Bavaria is one week ahead of them this year, but usually they go last. Next year we'll be first again (21/6 - 3/8... don't ask me how we can possibly get done with everything in that time since we get additional exams at the end of year 10 - hooray!) and Bavaria will be last (30/7 - 10/9).

As far as I know (from what they told me when I visited that student in work practice a few months ago) all St. Georges Schools in Germany adhere to the English school calendar. Which makes sense, I guess, since they also do the English exams.

Maxie, yes, major shock this morning! I just watched the press conference where Jürgen Klinsmann's resignation was announced. I'm a bit sad about this, but I can certainly understand where he is coming from. I was hoping he'd stay on because he obviously enjoyed working with these young players and he cares quite deeply about them (thinking back to how he comforted them after the Italy match, sniff!). It can't have been an easy decision, especially as the whole country was begging him to stay. But public opinion is certainly a volatile matter, and if you consider the abuse he had to live with before the World Cup (some of our newspapers, especially a certain tabloid should grovel in the dirt for how they treated him)... also, he really does look beat and terribly exhausted.

Sigh. His "assisstant" (more like co-coach) for the past two years Yogi Löw will take over the job, so things won't change dramatically since they do share the same philosophy. The players that have been asked so far seem disappointed that Klinsmann is leaving, but are pleased with the choice of a successor. I just hope they'll retain the joy in playing attractive football. Looking forward to the EURO 2008 qualifications. I don't think I have ever cared this much about the realm of soccer before.

Edited by frewen, Jul 12, 2006 @ 6:37 AM.


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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 6:50 AM

So frewen , with the 16 different summer schedules, is it possible that a child could have X holiday schedule and his neighbor across the road have Y? That would totally stink. Also if you had family scattered throughout the country it's likely the kids wouldn't all be off at the same time. We take a weeks vacation with hohopapa's family every year, but even though we're in different states the school schedule is only off by a week or two at the most. Do some families take their children out of school in order to do this kind of trip?

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 7:03 AM

That can only happen if you and your neighbours live in two different states, hohomana. I know there are a few villages along state borders where that might apply, but generally speaking it shouldn't be much of an issue. Usually, you send your child to school in the state where you live.

As for the other situation you described, yes, that's quite common. I have a lot of family in Southern Germany (Baden-Württemberg, roughly an hour away from Stuttgart) because my mother moved here when she married my dad in 1973. It was not unusual for us when we were younger to be visiting with our relatives when our cousins were still in school (or the other way around). I remember my brother once took two cousins (they are only a year apart) along to his school when they were staying with us because their federal state was still on holidays and we were back in school.

German schools are pretty strict about taking the kids out of school for vacation purposes. As a form teacher I can usually approve up to three continuous days out of school (e.g. for weddings and funerals) during the school year. In the week right before and right after a scheduled vacation this has to be done by the school's principal, however. Naturally, there are some parents who try to get around the issue by simply declaring their children ill...

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 7:33 AM

I don't think I have ever cared this much about the realm of soccer before.


I know what you mean. Still if Marcello Lippi can resign, Klinnsman can go for it!

After being pretty much ignored by my colleagues since I started the girl who sits next to me will not shut up. I've had her grandmother's entire life history already since lunchtime. The thing is I do have quite a bit of work to do this afternoon. *Sigh*

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 8:13 AM

2 to 1 odds it was an ob/gyn appt? – celticann

Nope. It was my grandmother's ear/nose/throat specialist.
My OBGYN does make you wait but I dont think Ive ever waited for 1.5 hours. 45 minutes to an hour is bad enough.

Lita is now officially signed up for Pet Training. Starting next Tuesday night for 8 weeks: basic puppy training. She needs it: psycho dog!

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 8:16 AM

Hee. Squeaky failed the tests in beginner and intermediate obedience, but she will "heel" on a leash and sit/down on command. However, she has a little bit of an attention span problem and couldn't sit still long enough to pass the tests.

Edited by JustJoshin, Jul 12, 2006 @ 8:19 AM.


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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 8:29 AM

A belated Congrats back at ya to dawsnzchck!

Maxie, we were in Glasgow for a day, staying with friends there who thought maybe the Kelvingrove Museum was open already, so we went to check it out. Sadly we were off by a week, but what a cool building! I'm sure it'll be great when its open. I'll just have to go back again sometime to see it! That and many other things. Its a great city you've got there.

All this Doctor Who talk makes me think I should check it out.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good quality digital camera that's under $150? Mine sadly did not survive the trip to Scotland (it got a bit too soggy sitting in my bag one day while walking around in the pouring rain), and I think I might get myself one as a graduation present. I don't need tons of megapixels or anything really fancy, just something reasonablly small and portable and fast would be nice. My old one had what felt like a 5 second delay between when you pressed the button and when it actually took the picture. Led to lots of shots of things whizzing out of the image.

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 8:45 AM

The Kelvingrove is apparently Glasgow's most popular building. I don't know how these things are worked out, but there you have it.

Its a great city you've got there.


It really is Kolonaki. :-) The West end is pretty cool, although it's been ages since I've been up there properly. Did you go to the Cathedral? Coz if you did you probably went passed the library where I work.....

All this Doctor Who talk makes me think I should check it out.


Yes! You really should. It's fabulous. Season 1 with Chris Eccelston and then the delectable David Tennant in season 2. Swoon.....

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 8:56 AM

Kolonaki - I have quite a few headless llama shots from my hols for the very same reason!, though I got great fun showing the pictures to my niece as the famous headless Peruvian llama. They believe anything when they are 5!

School holidays in Ireland are standardised and the Summer holidays are from the last week in June until the last week in August. If you are in secondary school however the state exams are scheduled in June and usually take place in the school itself so most teachers and non exam pupils will finish in the last week of May. My sister therefore gets 9 weeks of Summer holidays!

And Ali - I vote along with everyone else, I don't know what the job situation is like in Turkey but life is too short to spend it unfulfilled in a job if there is a possibility of changing jobs. I say keep you eye on the job section of the papers and also think about targeting companies you'd like to work for or in area's you are interested in. Your film reviews are very good.. Of course nothing really beats a job you can spend a good portion of the day just surfing the net!

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Posted Jul 12, 2006 @ 9:06 AM

Hurrah! I've just ordered my "Good grammar costs nothing" t-shirt.