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[Sock Puppet]

Nope, no one yet, although Nyanza got a 60% at the first BOR before they instituted the grading system.

[deadpill]

What a 60%? Why the fuck did they grade her so highly?

[Sock Puppet]

Rhonda had a good little scripted confessional about Nyanza having never failed before this, and thus, it devastates her. Because, you know, she was stepping in her diamond garden or cooking her crabs or whatever.

Hey, that makes Nyanza the only person ever to recieve an F.

[cynicat x]

Hey, that makes Nyanza the only person ever to recieve an F.

And I'm sure that Nyanza believed the F stood for Fab-u-lous

[dahlia]

Re: PJ's health issues. I don't know what her regimen is specifically, but might it be better for PJ to first learn to eat more healthy and then start her exercise program (or vice-versa) ? Slowly. It is hard trying to do both at once. And the PT's at my gym usually start their obese clients out with walking and weight-lifting. Mike might be too advanced for her at this stage, although I would be happy with a trainer like Mike.

Edited by dahlia, Jan 1, 2004 @ 10:26 AM.

[Snarkadoodle]

Going back a bit to Brenda's and Greg's date. Why did they take the SO van and not Greg's vehicle? At first I thought maybe it had something to do with the camera crew, but Christine and her date took his car and the camera crew managed to follow them. Also, at the end of the date Brenda offered to walk Greg to the curb? This and the fact that the fabulous yacht ride was on a friend's yacht leads me to believe Greg may be pretending about more than his feelings for Brenda. I have given this way too much thought, but something just doesn't seem right about Greg the fabulously wealthy man who owns his own company, has all this great stuff, all this time on his hands, and no romantic prospects outside Brenda. As someone up-thread mentioned, it is like he is using SO and Brenda to advertise himself to future prospects... just seems strange all around.

[kidcore]

But confronting the very real possibility of losing all this weight (and losing her armor, so to speak), can be a little undaunting.

ITA. When I finally got out of my gawky adolescent stage in college, got rid of the braces, and shed all the baby fat I'd hidden behind for so long it was scary at first actually having to deal with all the attention I was getting suddenly. More than that, for someone like PJ who's based so much of her identity on "I'm fat, unperfect, and ugly" when you actually lose weight you have to come up with something else to be other than the "fat kid."

Once that's gone, who are you really? I don't think PJ's allowed herself the freedom to explore that yet. I think she's subconsciouly trying to sabotage her own success but I'm hoping the trainer will just keep working her hard enough so she can just focus on results rather than the drama playing out in her head. That's going to take more than just some wackjob life coaches on a reality tv show.

I was uncomfortable watching Greg and Brenda's date too. When she kept trying to hold onto him when he brought her home after dinner it was so obvious he wasn't into getting physical with her. Can't Brenda just be happy with having a nice gentleman to escort her places while she's in Chicago and take her out sometime? If he really wanted to kiss her I'm sure he would have by now. And I'm sure by a lot of people's standards by the 5th or 6th date they would have been way past smooching. He's not into you that way Brenda. He's not courtin' you. You guys aren't going steady. Cool your jets sister.

[lovemesomevos]

If he really wanted to kiss her I'm sure he would have by now. And I'm sure by a lot of people's standards by the 5th or 6th date they would have been way past smooching.

I dunno. I have gotten a totally different vibe than everyone else has expressed about the saga of Brenda and Greg. If (and that is a biggggggg if) I remember correctly, when they first met it seems like Brenda was very hesistant to get seriously involved with anyone and Greg's age was also a huge consideration. By my count they have only had two actual ''alone'' dates (when they met and the fondue place). Brenda's ''flirting'' is nine kinds of fucked up and awkward don't get me wrong but for some reason (inexplicable even to me and I am the one saying it) I think he may just be into her but unsure of what to do or how to approach her since she was all ''I just want to be friends, bucko'' in the beginnning.

[snutteplutten]

Going back a bit to Brenda's and Greg's date. Why did they take the SO van and not Greg's vehicle? At first I thought maybe it had something to do with the camera crew, but Christine and her date took his car and the camera crew managed to follow them.

I think that Charlie actually let the producers put dashboard cam in his car - that's how we got all those beautiful shots of them feeling each other up in the car. Greg, apparently, hasn't gotten dashboard cam installed (less eager to be filmed doing the nasty for national TV?), so they have to use the SO vehicle.

I have given this way too much thought, but something just doesn't seem right about Greg the fabulously wealthy man who owns his own company, has all this great stuff, all this time on his hands, and no romantic prospects outside Brenda

I actually have the feeling that Greg's "wealth" is something that's been overblown by Brenda, and magnified by the other roommates. All I heard him say was that he owns a "trucking company." Could be two trucks, or one guy with a van. Greg's role on the yacht seemed to be something like trusted first mate/cabin boy. But Brenda played up the "princess" aspect of it.... As for having no romantic prospects other than Brenda, I don't think we know that. After all, they've gotten together all of four times over several weeks...

[Kikibean]

Hi everyone! I've been with the show (and this thread) since the beginning and am just now getting around to posting. I'm such a procrastinator.

If he really wanted to kiss her I'm sure he would have by now. And I'm sure by a lot of people's standards by the 5th or 6th date they would have been way past smooching. He's not into you that way Brenda. He's not courtin' you. You guys aren't going steady. Cool your jets sister.

The thing is, he gave her a peck on the cheek before the long, uncomfortable hug, then a peck on the lips. For any one of us who has experience with dating, we would know that's just a friendly gesture. But as soon as he did it, I cringed thinking Brenda will take this as a good sign that there are better kisses to come.

ITA with everyone who said that PJ ought to be starting slowly. She needs to lose some weight before she takes on the stairs, to save her knees.

[Kikibean]

Oh my God! What's this "Warn Level" thing under my name??

[lotus]

Oh my God! What's this "Warn Level" thing under my name??

I think we all have that. If people warn you about your behavior on the board, I think it's indicated there.

[RealChic1999]

RealChic1999, I like your list.

Thanks, HairyMango!

Man, I am so glad that Jennifer is going. I agree with everyone that said she was a waste of space. I found it funny that when Jennifer was talking about her goal being "surrendering control," a chyron would appear on the screen that said "Jennifer: Wants a stress-free wedding."

I am dying to see what goes down next week. The usual BMP "cast a black person with a haughty attitude and they get isolated by the white people because of said attitude" stuff. It bugs me to no end that they cannot find nice, humble, and kind black people to be on these shows. Nyanza worked my nerves when she was on the show...and Audrey's doing the same thing. Enough!

[Sock Puppet]

Dear GOD. She graduated, yet she's still in the house. I can't wait till Monday...we'll finally be done with Jennifer and Hymen's (or whatever his name is) Perfect And Stress-Free Wedding.

What the HELL was that with Audrey dancing today? And that woman was a professional? Jesus, I'd like to see what an amateur comes up with.

From next week's previews - Was Audrey saying Karen was criticizing her clothes? WTF?

[lovemesomevos]

Am I overreacting, or does anyone else find it offensive?

Not at all since they registered for the bed as part of their wedding registry. It offends my common sense that someone would actually expect an integral piece of furniture as a wedding gift but since they asked for it I cannot (for once) find offense with production for providing it. That said, I am just glad the whole Whiney and Hiney saga is drawing to a close.

[biakbiak]

It offends my common sense that someone would actually expect an integral piece of furniture as a wedding gift but since they asked for it I cannot (for once) find offense with production for providing it.

Well they probably have a bed already, I mean I am sure they have both been sleeping somewhere before she was on this show. They probably just wanted a really nice one. Since fewer people are marrying straight from their parent's houses it is often difficult for bride and grooms to come up with things to put on their bridal registries because they already have everything they need.

Edited by biakbiak, Jan 2, 2004 @ 4:48 PM.

[lovemesomevos]

Since fewer people are marrying straight from their parent's houses it is often difficult for bride and grooms to come up with things to put on their bridal registries because they already have everything they need.

It just struck me both as very tacky and as poor planning as Jennifer was very excited telling Jaime ''they got us the bed - now we will have somewhere to sleep''. But since they ultimately ''bought'' a house from her parents (per Jennifer on another board) I doubt seriously they would have actually been sleeping on the floor without the intervention of the SO house. The idea of asking for furniture just rankles me for some reason. As for difficulty in coming up with things add to your wedding registry, that strikes me a wholely self inflicted dilemma. If you have to struggle to come up with things you need then you probably are not lacking much.

[biakbiak]

If you have to struggle to come up with things you need then you probably are not lacking much.

That was actually my point. However, its not that self-inflicted because most people rely on a registry to decide what to get a couple.

[whyohwhy]

I can't be sure, but I think I had a nightmare that Hymie called Jennifer "schmoop". Please tell me that really didn't happen...PLEASE!!!!!

The previews next week look good, some crazy is gonna happen!

[iuyi]

The performance advisor was about the tenth person brought on to try to help Oddrey: a piano lesson, guitar lesson, singing lesson, the song plugger, country music performer, subway singer, several music biz insiders, etc. Has anyone but the "showcase" producer and pianst come back for a second exposure to Oddrey's gift?

[snutteplutten]

It bugs me to no end that they cannot find nice, humble, and kind black people to be on these shows.

Well, Kimberlyn was pretty low-key, and look where it got her:)

Yes, the bed and the cookware were on the registry, but it struck the barefoot and pregnant chord with me too, GirlI, because of the way it was phrased. The cookware was given so that Jennifer can "cook wonderful meals for herself and her loved ones" - it could have been phrased as "so you and Jaime can explore the wonderful world of food together" or whatever. The whole portrayal of Jenn has been eerily 1950s, as we've discussed before.

I really like Karen. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that that doesn't change. Her straightforward, yet enthusiastic, attitude is refreshing. And don't hate me - but Teresa is creeping up in my estimation (as PJ and Brenda creep down). I love the snarky faces Teresa makes when Audrey is singing, when the life coaches are babbling, etc.

[gingerblue]

A lot of people register at furniture stores- usually guests at the wedding will contribute a certain dollar amount *towards* an item the couple has on their list. We are doing that with our wedding. We certainly don't expect anyone to buy us a bed, but it would be nice if they could contribute towards it instead of buying us appliances, dishes, cookware, and gadgets we really won't need. If we have to pick between an ice cream maker or some pots or a few hundred towards a couch, we are gonna go with the couch. There's also honeymoon registries, house registries, etc.

[mimsy61]

Jen and Jamie lucked up, a bed and cookware. Where's her pearls,apron and high heels to make her June Clever? Poor Kimberlyn, she missed a few meeting and get bupkis.

[biakbiak]

I guess the reason I didn't have a problem with the gifts Jennifer got is because well they needed a bed and no woman in my family except for me can cook, so I have never once associated cooking as being a female thing, in fact just the opposite, its what comes with growing up in a family of chefs.

[Princess Tanella]

So, yay, Jennifer is leaving! But typically, once one graduates, shouldn't one get the hell of my TV?

Also, if Jennifer's supposed goal is to surrender control and have a stress free wedding, how can they graduate her before the actual event? She could be a raging harpy on the day of, and still end up with her spiffy graduation gifts. To her credit, she did sound surprised that they got the bed, like it was on their registry, but they didn't actually expect anyone to get it for them.

So, so tired of her high pitched whine of a voice.

[cynicat x]

So, so tired of her high pitched whine of a voice.

I don't know how this never grated on me before, but all of a sudden, her voice makes my ears bleed. Her "aawwws" and "ooohhs" make me want to jump through the TV and rip out her vocal cords.

She and Jamie may have wanted a bed, but I have to agree with all of you that it smacks of Donna Reed. Maybe a gift certificate would have softened it, I dunno. I don't care anymore, just get Jennifer the fuck off the show!