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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 2:24 AM

Toffeebrowne I'm as mystified about this whole thing as you are, although his love for Jesus and Mrs Parker don't really turn me off - they're just irrelevent.

I was just going to come here to post what cmkrcwi said (although I can't spell Mikulski). That has been on my list of 'facts about Clay and politics' ever since Mr Aiken first went to Washington (a staff member who works in her offices even posted here).

Not that I keep track of these things or anything.

3chords wins the bet reddecca is red (and occasionally talks about herself in the third person). If I lived in America I'd probably be an independent, Green parties are usually a little wishy-washy for me. But I'm not particularly fussy about what other people call themselves as long as they don't believe anything I find offensive (not a particularly low standard - but Clay hasn't broken it - yet). Although I'm still in a happy place where I take the fact that Clay was anti-war in a NZ interview as a personal shout-out.

Moving along from my own personal insanity to my pet peeve, I don't get to see the tour special yet, I want pissy!diva!Clay damnit. I'm so far behind on downloading, stupid NZ TV and it's stupid not showing what I want to see.
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 5:50 AM

I hope to God (ironically) that the song MOAM is not religious. Because that would really gick me out. I have a hard time listening to the demos because so many of them are "Christian". Step away from the light, Honey. Come over to the Dark Side. My favorite songs are my downloads of AI2 performances. I cry every time I listen to BOTW from Finals Night. That is sheer perfection, and it took sheer balls. Anybody who voted for that Other Guy after hearing that was fucking delusional. And dead WRONG.

I would just like to thank Famewhore the Hedgehog for comming out of the closet when he was acting like a pissy diva bitch.


Oh God, Jer, wasn't he just breathtaking? I could watch hours of Divaness. Hours. I could kiss his huge, bitchy feet. THUD. Of course, this is coming from the Mistress of Hedgehoggie FameWhore. (Take that, Mrs. Piratical Root Vegetable! Hee!)

On the other hand, I am SO ready to retire the faux kisses on females. I'm sure he is too. Put it with feet turning and toenail biting in the dead files.

Loved the special. LOVED it. Raleigh footage was wonderful. Crying in Raleigh - spectacular. What a heart this man has. Phony? Deep down, not at all. Just has very well-built walls. Probably rightly so considering his upbringing. Quite honestly, everything he does just makes me love him all that much more. He is a truly wondrous piece of humanity. Flawed, prickly, sharp edged, opinionated, ambitious, talented, gracious, warm, funny, quasi-religious (bleah), quirky, sarcastic, true to himself, outspoken, confused, driven, kind when it's important, puts the right things at the forefront of his time and energy, willing to take huge risks and fall flat on his face, resilient... he is just a stunning package. We really don't deserve him.
Oh, and he's quite purdy, too.

Hope that's non-intense enough. I kept it low-key on purpose.
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 8:16 AM

BWAH! I loved Pissy!Diva!Clay! God, that was funny stuff right there. I loved when Julia said, "Clay is going to flip!" Hee. His walk down the hall was hilarious.
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 8:35 AM

Oh, the walk. That walk. It's the 'flap! flap!s' of Doom coming right at ya, ready to throw a tantrum. If he had long hair he would've thrown it back to make the Diva-picture complete.

I found the knock-knock "Hellooo?"-part the funniest.
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 8:47 AM

BWAH! I loved Pissy!Diva!Clay!


To my shock, I agree.

American Idol wasn’t aired here in Australia so until this week I had never really heard of Clay Aiken. I started lurking on this thread after seeing him on Letterman and becoming a little curious. Going over your posts and the links contained within them I sort of gained the impression that Clay is a square with a good voice. A straight-laced, good deed doing, multiple layer wearing, non swearing, elf-like, hunk o spunk (tm Kath and Kim). The interviews I’ve read and clips of performances I’ve seen this week only added to this impression that Clay is really quite serious and maybe a little boring. I thought he was a little bland.

So, having the impression that Clay had about as much personality as the Tom Hanks cardboard cut-out at my local Video Ezy, I was surprised to hear about his pissy little diva tantrum. Anyway, I’ve just downloaded the footage and slap me sideways the boy has a sense of humour!!! I am sitting here laughing as I type.

Cuckoo I so totally agree, that “Hellloooo” and knock on the fridge (was it a fridge? Couldn’t tell) was hilarious. I seriously have a stomach ache from laughing so hard. Am I dense for not picking up on this earlier or does he hide the snark? Let the snark run free Clay, let it run freeeeeee.
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 8:56 AM

Leigh, he hides the snark for the sake of the chirrun. Which is a shame because he's one sarcastic little bastard. His interview on Jimmy Kimmel Live proves it. The same interview also proves that his stylist should be shot.
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 9:01 AM

I adore Pissy!Diva!Clay! and I want to have his pissy!diva!babies!. Seriously. His hissy fit was so damned magnificent. Brilliant. What, he was supposed to just take it in stride? Hells no!

Edited because this is Clay's thread, so who cares about all those "other people"?

Edited by TrishaDiva, Jan 2, 2004 @ 9:02 AM.

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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 9:46 AM

For those of us who missed Clay's divafit, could someone recap what happened?
Happy New Year to all!
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 9:57 AM

view divafit here

Too funny for me to put into words- it is under the AI Tour Special heading, the Chicago link.

Edited by Leigh, Jan 2, 2004 @ 10:00 AM.

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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 10:16 AM

Leigh, thanks! I'll enjoy going through all of those.
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 12:47 PM

Leigh, he hides the snark for the sake of the chirrun. Which is a shame because he's one sarcastic little bastard. His interview on Jimmy Kimmel Live proves it. The same interview also proves that his stylist should be shot.

To be fair, Simon has more or less said this. Rumors are he can have a temper, too, as well as possibly being an *gasp* arrogant prick (<---is "prick" a swear word?) at times. Methinks that fit may have been mild. I admit that one of the reasons I want him to give up any idea of going with Disney is he really isn't bland at all. IMHO, he's a bit of an eccentric.

Oh, the walk. That walk. It's the 'flap! flap!s' of Doom coming right at ya, ready to throw a tantrum.


Now that, Cuckoo? was my favorite part. I love me some walking-like-a-duck Clayton Aiken. He kind of came across as an overgrown kid, didn't he?

Okay, I have a lot to catch up on since I was swept away by Mr. mel ladi for a couple of days. You lucky, lucky people. I'll be editing this sucker all day and you can't stop me.

Edit the first:

New Years Eve

I wasn’t able to see the NYE MTV special until last night so I had to contact a friend before I saw it. So I wanna know, just how wrong was it of me to ask what color the Aiken was before I asked the more important questions – namely what was he wearing, how did his hair look, how intimate did he get with the mic stand, and how many in the audience did he attempt to impregnate through his searing (albeit possibly a bit smarmy) stare? The camera doesn’t count because he is in congress with that sucker on a regular basis. [small sappy voice] My first question actually might have been if he'd looked like he'd gotten enough rest, but I'd never admit that publicly or anything.[/ssv]

I loved his loosy-goosy, low key performance. I love seeing him on the huge jumbotrons in Times Square. His voice sounded great and okay I admit it, I lurve the outfit. I just wish he'd quit getting his clothes from his daddy's closet. There is such a thing a tailoring, you know. I know he's careful with his pennies but jeez! Also, I couldn't be more glad that his schedule conflicted with Dick Clark's show. He would have been the youngest, hippest (and that is saying something, admit it!) one there.

"The Way" made me swoon. Gah. Apparently my intense fangirlyism has not yet left me.

Edit the second:

Anyway, that bit of info, along with a bit of a snarky reference to Clay as a contestant in a karoke contest in a year-end article, makes me wonder if we're entering the "now that we've built Clay up, let's make fun of him and knock him down" phase of pop-idoldom.


As I IMed Decca, Clay Aiken is the loser of a cheesy TV reality show karaoke singing contest. The mockableness is inherent in that and in his innate dorkiness (clearly in evidence in the tour special). He’s really, really easy to make fun of. I think your local media used remarkable restraint, Adric.

Whether Clay can land on both feet when that happens will determine his future success in a very fickle business.


I’d bet my bottom dollar that if anybody can, Clotilde, he can. As long as he stays true to himself. [/sap]

Jer who rules said:

Is Touch about masturbation by any chance?


Gosh darn it all to heck that I didn’t see this before New Year’s Day.

Edited by mel ladi, Jan 2, 2004 @ 2:51 PM.

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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 12:49 PM

Oh Leigh honey, dude has snark to spare. You need to hear the Indianapolis radio interview he did a couple of weeks ago. And as Cuckoo pointed out the Kimmel interview was great too. I'm sure there are tons more I just can't think of them. Oooh, Oooh the Canadian show where he said he loved hookers therefore he loved KimberMe. I <3'ed him so goddamned much after that lil clip. Someone, somewhere in one of these threads pointed out that you could get the impression that Clay Aiken is all sweetness and light, but that soooooo aint the case. Just the fact that when Treynese and Julia heard that his mic went out their first reactions were "he's gonna flip". I LOVED that! Reminds me of another time at one of the concerts when Clay got a little snippy and Treynese was like "and here is the real Clay Aiken". It makes him human. Besides I just like people with a bitchy side to them; Xtina, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Clay Aiken. Wa-hoo!


ETA-

Now that, Cuckoo? was my favorite part. I love me some walking-like-a-duck Clayton Aiken.


No no mel, pregnant duck. I just realized he walks like pregnant women do, you know leading with their stomach. It's werid, but cute.

Edited by ToffeeBrowne, Jan 2, 2004 @ 12:53 PM.

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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 1:20 PM

I have seen the Diva Duck walk, and it is priceless stuff.

Note to crew: in the future, be very sure Clay's mic is on when it's supposed to be. And beware of the Diva Duck if it's not.

I just love this shot so very much

Edited by ladybugz, Jan 2, 2004 @ 1:25 PM.

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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 1:35 PM

I just realized that this wasn't brought over here for all you lurkers (btw, y'all make me nervous. I like to think my incoherent ramblings fly under the radar):

My Dear Fans, Happy Holidays! I would like to take a minute to thank you all so much for making this such an incredible year. What an amazing ride 2003 has been, and it is all because of you. From picking up the phone to vote, to picking up my CD in the store, to picking up your checkbooks to donate to the Foundation, you have gone above and beyond all I could have hoped for or imagined and really, truly, are the best fans in the world. I am humbled by your continuous generosity and support.

Thank you for the well wishes for my graduation. It was so humbling to stand amongst educators who every day are changing the lives of their students. I become envious of them when I think of the time they have in their classrooms to witness the miracles of discovery they have each day with the special children God has loaned them for this time. However, college has also opened doors beyond the classroom, providing a glimpse of life in the “real world.” Working with children with autism has provided me with an opportunity to see the world in a different way. I see them strive to overcome obstacles and persevere, and learn to persevere myself. They are my inspiration.

I was very fortunate to have an opportunity to go ice-skating with 100 incredible children last weekend as an event sponsored by the Foundation. Thank you, Wachovia Bank, for partnering with us for the event and creating a memory for these kids, as well as a learning experience for both the children with and without developmental disabilities. In a perfect world, there would be no distinction between these two groups; each would have opportunities to play and grow and learn and succeed…Thank you for supporting this event and bringing that dream one step closer to a reality. I also enjoyed meeting several wonderful people last week at the Carolina Hurricanes hockey game who generously donated to the Bubel/Aiken Foundation by purchasing box seating for the game. Thank you to all who are helping make my dream of the Foundation a reality through your generous giving, and helping make opportunities available for ALL children, regardless of their developmental disabilities.

Everyone can do his or her part to give a voice to these children. I appreciate your help in so many ways, and there are so many ways to help. If possible, you could give of your time. Support causes you believe in by volunteering. Thank you for caring enough to educate yourself in order to create awareness in your community. Help eliminate stereotypes that have too long been associated with disabilities. Check out the foundation’s website for ideas of ways you can make a difference in the lives of special children and help their voice in this world be heard. This voice can be heard through YOU. Each day, I remind myself that it’s not necessarily how we make a difference…if we just make sure that we do.

It was wonderful to spend a few moments at home with my family and friends during the holidays. I love them so much and value the time I am able to have with them. Every moment is precious. Seize the memories you make during this holiday season and never let them go. May God grant you health, happiness, and hope in this holiday season and throughout the coming year. Best wishes for 2004, All my love, Clay


Yes, you might have guessed that this was brought to you by the same hand which penned the world's wordiest album liner notes. Does he not know the meaning of "succinct"?* I used to think he only talked too much.

I just love this shot so very much

ladybugz, it is quite fortunate for this thread that I have ceased objectifying him or else I might have a few comments about the nature of that very famous expression on his face.

I love "the diva duck"!

*Oh, I'm fully aware of the pot-kettle irony of that statement.

Edited just becoss.

Edited by mel ladi, Jan 3, 2004 @ 2:28 AM.

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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 3:06 PM

I missed the behind the tour special?! Gah! Does anyone know if Fox will repeat it anytime soon?
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 3:49 PM

ladybugz, it is quite fortunate for this thread that I have ceased objectifying him or else I might have a few comments about the nature of that very famous expression on his face.

Oh, Mel, don't disappoint. There will be no cease and desist here. Share with us your very special thoughts! :)

ETA: I'm doing some very needed catch up here and found this older post from Toffee to be beverage-spewing funny:
"Ok I'm stuck in a torrid love triangle. I love the jacketdancing from The View. Yes I do. I am not ashamed. But in the Leno Invisible there is this little move that Clay does that kills me too. When he sings "I would be the smartest man" he pulls the mic stand away from his body, turns his head to the side, and does this little undulating move with his body. Damn that is hot! Am I the only person who sees this? I feel so dirty. I'm watching the Tonight Show like it's porn. Damn you Clay Aiken. "

Edited by ladybugz, Jan 2, 2004 @ 4:22 PM.

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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 4:12 PM

I just realized that this wasn't brought over here for all you lurkers (btw, y'all make me nervous. I like to think my incoherent ramblings fly under the radar):


Thanks a bunch mel lady! And don't worry about us lurkers . . . .your incoherent ramblings are some of the very best!
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 4:13 PM

I admire Clay's devotion to the special chirren but this

...with the special children God has loaned them for this time

had me reaching for the Pepto.
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 4:46 PM

I hope to God (ironically) that the song MOAM is not religious. Because that would really gick me out.

Hey, maybe its the exact opposite! Maybe "measure of a man" is a double entendre!

Nah.
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 8:12 PM

MOAM isn't religious - I just busted out my Clay Aiken CD and played the song 3x (not that I minded....) just to make sure. No mention of God, Him, Jesus Christ, anything religion related. I got that he was talking about what a real man should be/act/like etc.

Just wanted to say that I have been lurking for a while, and I will be posting more often....ya'll crack me up.
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 9:01 PM

The Washington Post published their traditional New Year's Day In and Out list, with the revelation that hairless cats, Sofia Coppola and Barry Manilow are IN, while tiny dogs, Spike Jonze and Clay Aiken are OUT.

Well, that didn't take long...
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 9:58 PM

And I thought Rick Dees invented "Diva Duck."
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 10:11 PM

Happy New Year, everybody!

I was just wondering if anyone else caught the snippet of "Run To Me" played in the background on today's episode of As The World Turns? I know it may be silly, but I thought it was pretty cool!
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 10:12 PM

I'm actually hesitant to comment on what MoaM does or doesn't mean because the lyrics don't seem to connect or to make complete sense. [small voice] Or maybe it's just that *I* can't comprehend them![/sv] In any case, as I already mentioned, I love how passionately he sings it, so I'll just conveniently repress most of the words!

FWIW, I *hate* Touch. Hate! It's just so...so forced and un-Clay-ish to me, as if TPTB sat him down and said, "Look, we know this isn't the sort of song you like or even sound all that good on, but, hey, we've gotta include some more SEXXXY songs to help us sell some records. So how 'bout we forget about that silly little "Solitaire" song you sound so phenomenal on and throw "Touch" on instead?!" Just my weird and totally baseless theory!

So it's definite that The Way will be the next single? I'm not a fan of that one either...it just sounds so 98 Degrees IMO, though I do agree it's very radio friendly. Is it futile to hope that they'll release No More Sad Songs on instead?! So many AI fans fell in love with Ballad Belting Clay, so IMO NMSS would be a great choice. Plus, I just happen to love it :)

Edited by marlaas, Jan 2, 2004 @ 10:15 PM.

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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 10:13 PM

The Washington Post published their traditional New Year's Day In and Out list,


O.K. this made me laugh. They really expect us to take their list seriously when it includes hairless cats! Hey, don't think Clay would want to be included on any list with cats anyway!

And he is so not the new Barry Manilow. Stop.this.now.
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Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 11:21 PM

Can you tell I'm off work today?

I am laboriously working on my magnum opus reply to elana i am and my theories about my favorite cut from the album (that title track which you are so gleefully currently maligning) but I couldn't resist bringing the latest Luann comic strip by, especially in light of the Tour special last night (the strip from 01/02) as well as this little gem from the February J-14. I think I will really need to ask my daddy for subscription to this because I <3 CL8ON SOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!(etc.) I really need one of those little yellow smiley face emoticons with the red heart shaped eyes because I think it would be particularly appropriate here. A row of them would be even more appropriate, come to think of it.

And, just because I can't objectify doesn't mean y'all can't. That means you, Adric and Jer.

ETA: Those in-out lists are so 2003 (TM somebody really bright).

Edited by mel ladi, Jan 2, 2004 @ 11:25 PM.

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Posted Jan 3, 2004 @ 12:10 AM

Adric sweetheart step away from the Washington Post. Seriously hon, I don't want you buying one of those ugly fetus-looking cats that are tres trendy. I'm looking out for you sweets. ;-)

I read the article earlier today and actually chuckled. It's so obvious that the person who put together the list is talking out of their ass. Barry Manilow was never "in" even at his most popular. Manilow fans please don't kill me. And that soldier girl who got captured is suposed to be out as well. She was in at one point? For the life of me I can't even remember what her name is again. I'm surprised Elizabeth Smart didn't make the list cause you know kidnaped blondes are soooooo yesterday[tm the Duffinator].

It kind of reminds me of when Entertainment Weekly said that Dirrrrty had killed Crissy Aguilera's career. Oh yes you seekers of trends, 3 hit singles and a Grammy nod later Xtina is just done. Stick a fork in her. LOL.

Anyhoo the Washington Post guy did an interview with Anne Curry from Dateline. This is an excerpt of it that came from a Barry Manilow newsgroup:

CURRY: I quibble on one point, I will always listen to Coldplay. OK, out Clay
Aiken. In, Barry Manilow?
Mr. STUEVER: Maybe we need to smash your iPod or something.
CURRY: No, you can't do that. It's too well-protected. But in, Barry Manilow?
Mr. STUEVER: Absolutely. It's time for a Barry Manilow comeback.
CURRY: All right.
Mr. STUEVER: Let--let's have the real deal. Let's get rid of Clay and have Barry Manilow.

So this is more of a...wish for 2004 then any "research" that Mr. Stuever has done. Even Anne sounds like she thinks that dude is on crack.

I think I have really come to my chilling point when it comes to Clay. Once apon a time I thought a bad review might just do him in. Now I find the digs hee-larious. Am I becomming unintense y'all? BWAH! And his little spaz out from last night makes me certain that poor wittle Claybee aint a push over. He can swim with the sharks. I'm pretty sure he will make the OUT list for 2005, 2006, 2007 probably. Then the critics will just say screw it and throw up their hands in disgust. Good times.

Oh and here is a present for the Diva!Bitch! lovers.
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Posted Jan 3, 2004 @ 12:32 AM

3 hit singles and a Grammy nod later Xtina is just done. Stick a fork in her. LOL.


Well....she's looking pretty crispy lately.
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Posted Jan 3, 2004 @ 12:48 AM

RainJane 1960, I was all ready to give you an asterik an admit you into the club after hearing that you'd missed me. Then you had to go and type this:

Anybody who voted for that Other Guy after hearing that was fucking delusional. And dead WRONG.


As someone who voted for the other guy, I'm hurt *makes Clay pouty face* OTOH I kind of agree with this:

Oh God, Jer, wasn't he just breathtaking?


Well, he wasn't breathtaking IMO. I just kept laughing and saying, C'mon Famewhore, embrace your gayness. That was quite a good queen out.

WRT that letter from Clay to his fanatics. Goddamn, he's fucking long winded! I didn't know God loaned out chirrun. I guess the pen got ahead of the brain there. See why he should cut his hair.
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Posted Jan 3, 2004 @ 1:14 AM

3 chords

3 hit singles and a Grammy nod later Xtina is just done. Stick a fork in her. LOL.

Well....she's looking pretty crispy lately.


Touche 3 chords, but I love my lil Ooompa Loompa. And to make this post Clay-centric, Crissy also tends to walk like a sway backed pregnant lady. Not ducklike however. The feet are not nearly big enough. I still say a Clistina duet would be kismet though.
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