Edited by ColdGreg, Jan 2, 2004 @ 11:53 AM.
More AI in the Media
Posted Jan 2, 2004 @ 11:52 AM
Posted Jan 4, 2004 @ 3:36 AM
I like Clay, he just didn't win the competition, why is he everywhere?
If the tables were turned, we wouldn't see nearly this much of Rueben.
Well, there's a few reasons for this. First off, Clay's always had a rather devoted, large and okay, fanatical fan base. Sure, there's promotions that labels do, but a lot of public appearances and stuff that leads to "being everywhere" is all about supply and demand. Shows want ratings, magazines want sales, and what helps in that is giving the product the customer wants. Sure, Rolling Stone could put say... Pauly Shore on the cover, but few people would rush out to buy it. However, putting Clay on the cover leads to increased sales from his fans who collect everything and anything Clay. Similar deal with tv, if ratings go up when Clay's on, then shows are going to want him on.
Now while Ruben has fans - and probably a good size fanbase - he's never had the utter craziness that's surrounded Clay.
It's been discussed several times on the grassy knoll thread but Ruben winning gave him what was probably a boost (or crutch have you). If Clay had won, there's a good chance that Ruben could have faced a lot of the problems that Justin has recently. Ruben getting the title and Clay's overwhelming fan base assured that 19E really has two idols for one this year.
And as said above, expect to see more of Ruben now that his album is out.
Posted Jan 6, 2004 @ 10:17 AM
The new American version will have even more markting tie-ins for its sponsors. Vanilla Coke, Ford, Subway and AT&T Wireless are all signed on, and a network spokesperson told Television Week that "We are going to see a lot more retail and in-store marketing from partners. We are gong to see more online and consumer marketing, including viewing parties. There'll be sweepstakes and print advertising..."
Posted Jan 6, 2004 @ 10:20 AM
Fuck, this is going to suck...
Posted Jan 6, 2004 @ 10:26 AM
But yeah, all those products shoved down our throats is going to be really tough.
Posted Jan 6, 2004 @ 11:22 AM
Crappy stupid contrived product placement.
Posted Jan 6, 2004 @ 12:01 PM
Posted Jan 6, 2004 @ 12:13 PM
Posted Jan 6, 2004 @ 12:18 PM
Vanilla Coke, Ford, Subway and AT&T Wireless are all signed on
Don't worry so much - those were the exact same sponsors they had last year, except maybe for Subway. If you were willing to sit through the commericials once, you'll be able to get through them this time. Probably what they're talking about is that Coke will run one of those bottle-cap contests where if your number matches the one on the screen, you win a date with a contestant or something along those lines. They did that last year too, as I remember...
Companies have to be rah-rah about these things, otherwise the apocalypse will happen...
Posted Jan 6, 2004 @ 1:18 PM
Also, Subway is now pushing their new "Atkins Friendly" product over the Jared thing. So we'll see which of the AI folks they think needs to be on a diet? Or maybe 19 is going to push Ruben into doing that one, because they are convinced he needs to lose weight. What. Ever!
Posted Jan 6, 2004 @ 2:58 PM
Posted Jan 6, 2004 @ 10:05 PM
Posted Jan 6, 2004 @ 10:52 PM
Yes I picked it up. Not "picked it up" as in bought it! How could you think that of me? But I did physically pick it up and browse through it for five or six minutes. Predictably, it appears to suck. Also, it appears to be a short read--maybe no longer than Britney's marriage if you take lots of extra time between chapters to help the swelling in your brain go down.
Posted Jan 7, 2004 @ 4:05 PM
When Clay Sings by Byrd Baylor, Tom Bahti (Illustrator) (It's a book about pottery of the American Southwest.)
Hee! Can you imagine the disappointment of the Clay fans once they click on that book and then realize it's not about Ol' Glory-Note Aiken?
Posted Jan 7, 2004 @ 7:55 PM
Posted Jan 9, 2004 @ 8:39 AM
There is an article in this weeks Business Week discussing how TIVO is forcing advertising to look for other ways to promote their products besides commercials -
That [personal video recorders] has ad-makers looking to embed products right in TV shows, as PepsiCo did on Fox Entertainment Group Inc.'s American Idol last year.
I think its safe to say the writer has never watched an episode of the show. What happened to the days when journalists checked the facts in their stories? Poor [product-placed cola]. After all the time and effort they spent strategically placing their product throughout the show and their main rival gets the credit for it in a national magazine.
Posted Jan 10, 2004 @ 1:12 AM
American Idol 3 tidbit
Edited by mercenary13, Jan 10, 2004 @ 1:13 AM.
Posted Jan 10, 2004 @ 11:23 AM
So this year, he'll heat it up. An audience will be there possibly surrounding the performers. A small orchestra will be there, too.
Nooo! I actually really liked the fact that there was no audience at this point. The small orchestra I can deal with (although I did think just the piano accompaniment really made the performers step it up because all they had to rely on was a piano and their voice). But I don't like the audience idea AT ALL. There will be nothing to make it any different than the finals, and I liked just having the performers and the judges without having to hear the stupid audience boo everytime a judge says something remotely negative. I really hope Lythgoe changes his mind.
Edited by MC SammyD, Jan 10, 2004 @ 11:24 AM.
Posted Jan 10, 2004 @ 8:18 PM
I would watch if Nigel Lythgoe catfought with Simon Cowell. "I was the original Mr. Nasty on Popstaaaars, Simon." They could trade their stock insults at each other, and then have at it.
Posted Jan 10, 2004 @ 9:25 PM
How about investing in an orchestra or band for the finals? Now that would be an improvement.
Posted Jan 11, 2004 @ 11:05 AM
Posted Jan 11, 2004 @ 12:35 PM
As usual, the bad auditions will be shown. Staffers "screen out the bland" hopefuls before the judges lend their ears.
All comments about the arrogance of said judges aside, I'm wondering how "professional" these "staffers" are to have let Carmen, Josh, Craggle, Marlboro Barbie, etc. through? Just wonderin'.
Also, I am 100% in agreement the jcpdiesel21 with regard to saving the orchestra for the finals. I'd also like to add that it would be great if the band changed to fit the theme. i.e. fiddles and acoustic guitars for "country night" or a true orchestra for "Big Band night" (Please let there be a Big Band night!!) and so on. But no audience in the semi-finals! Definitely not.
I wonder if they will have the parents on again? That seemed to sort of fizzle out, didn't it?
Edited by representin512, Jan 11, 2004 @ 12:36 PM.
Posted Jan 12, 2004 @ 6:12 PM
I don't like the idea of adding an audience to the semifinals of this season. I actually really liked hearing the singers perform only accompanied by a piano. It gives you a chance to see how strong a performer is.
Word, jcp! But being the cynic that I am, I have to wonder if this isn't how they'll get their more "conventional" popstar through a bit easier. A less-than-stellar voice is more easily disguisable with a full band (and audience?) than it is with only a piano ... de-emphasizing the voice and placing more emphasis on the pretty package around that voice.
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 3:21 AM
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 5:27 PM
Okay . . . I'm misapprehending my rock signifiers, I think. Can someone help me?
...Aiken's true tradition is the "rock" "opera"ónot its embrace of concept (though Man does float a gender crisis too finely shaded for prime time), but its cute misapprehension of that trio of rock signifiers: volume, thrust, and melody.
ETA if you missed the VV review of Ruben's "Superstar," you can link to it at the bottom of Clay's review. It's also wonderfully palaverous.
Edited by cookimonki, Jan 13, 2004 @ 5:33 PM.