- A financial bonus for finishing a detour or roadblock quickly/very well. For instance, in last night's episode, if a team got a red hanky from a cow in say, less than 30 seconds, then they would receive $50 extra at the start of the next leg. I'm not into screwing teams (e.g., the yield, whatever it is that happens this season in the non-elim legs), because with the lack of regular sleep and food, they're already pretty screwed.
- Getting rid of the Yield. Its premise only encourages inter-team conflict, of which I find there is already plenty.
Suggestions and changes for future TARs
Posted Jul 14, 2004 @ 12:37 PM
Posted Jul 14, 2004 @ 8:32 PM
I also think they should continue to have teams that are different from the previous seasons...as in season 4 had more all male teams, while 5 has only one. And get rid of some of the many "dating" couples...they only seem to confuse me.
Posted Jul 14, 2004 @ 9:56 PM
Edited by mel42024, Jul 15, 2004 @ 10:10 PM.
Posted Jul 15, 2004 @ 10:05 AM
Posted Jul 15, 2004 @ 9:21 PM
Posted Jul 20, 2004 @ 8:05 AM
The only other thing I would like would be a "blooper reel" episode as the last episode - after the finale of the race. Come on, who wouldn't want to see that? :-)
Also, I have to agree that the yield sounds yucky compared to the Fast Forward, but I don't want to suggest changing it until we see it in action a couple of times.
Posted Jul 23, 2004 @ 6:41 PM
I totally agree on the posters that mentioned an "Ultimate" 4/5 day leg instead of a actual non-elimination point. Have 2 detours, 3 roadblocks, and two yield points (one at a detour, one at a roadblock). Probably insert one of the uber-long rides at this point, so that we don't kill any of the racers. Let's see if any of the teams actually stop and rest.
I'm guessing there are really 6 typecasts in the show: Models, Old Couple, Exes, Relatives (Mother, brother, cousin), "Young/Basic" Couple, the something-involving-"gay" team, and the "best friends" team (ie. friends/co-workers/frat brothers/mothers-with-a-relationship-that-is-not-sexual). What are other typecasts that can make the show?
Now the sterotypical "black team" can land in any of those typecasts. I'd ask where are the Asians? (Kathy (of Michael/Kathy was the only one I could think of). I could totally picture my 40-something Filipino parents racing. My mom would bitch at my dad's driving, my dad would bitch at my mom's direction skills. They would speak SpanTaglish. And I don't think that Asians have advantages in India/Vietnam/Korea. Unless you get the sterotypical Korean team, you know the one with the thin girl with the fat head? But I digress.
Posted Jul 25, 2004 @ 5:11 PM
Posted Jul 25, 2004 @ 7:32 PM
Adding a few Survivor twists to the game might also work. For instance, instead of a trip of some kind, try an even bigger and more important reward for the first-place team, applicable to every single leg (where one pair would always be gone): the right to decide which of the remaining teams to eliminate. This would add another angle to the race: a power battle. Best part: no non-elimination points, so everyone else would always be at risk.
Posted Jul 25, 2004 @ 7:42 PM
Posted Jul 25, 2004 @ 8:09 PM
Posted Jul 25, 2004 @ 9:08 PM
Even the Yield is going too far for me. Let teams succeed or fail on their own merit.
What I'd like to see is more of what we've seen so far this year: Tasks that don't have opening hours, so when teams leave the pit stop in the middle of the night, they have to go straight into racing. It just causes killer fatigue to set in that much faster, and makes smart racing all the more critical.
And bring back more Fast Forwards!!!
Posted Jul 25, 2004 @ 9:24 PM
Edited by y3, Jul 25, 2004 @ 9:25 PM.
Posted Jul 26, 2004 @ 8:41 AM
Posted Jul 27, 2004 @ 5:38 PM
Posted Jul 28, 2004 @ 1:53 PM
I suppose they can't stop them from buying bus, train or ferry tickets, but they really shouldn't allow purchasing another teams plane tickets. Love to see new rule for next TAR!
Posted Jul 28, 2004 @ 5:03 PM
No, please. No elimination by choice of the other players. Please. Then you get alliances and backstabbery and it turns into Big Brother on the Road and is just as tacky and nasty as every other reality show out there.
ITA (with everyone else as well). It's bad enough that American Idol's elimination process is mainly due to people that make themselves look like they don't have a clue, and to add to that, it wouldn't seem like a Philimination if someone else made that decision.
ETA: I like the Mole idea thing mentioned last year. It would be great to see the good old green thumbprint/red thumbprint used here. Rather, a stoplight would be more appropriate IMO for TAR. Speaking of the Mole, I would totally love an exemption scenario used on the show in the future.
Edited by SeaBreeze341, Jul 28, 2004 @ 5:15 PM.
Posted Jul 29, 2004 @ 12:54 PM
Also, scrap the yield and put back the fast forward on all legs without the above tasks (too many optional tasks could get confusing quickly).
Finally, have the following system: in the event that there is a mandatory task that violates someone's religion/beliefs ("Go to the market and purchase and eat the following items: milk, beef..." which would violate kosher), have a team be able to skip the task BUT get a penalty applied to them, the penalty being the time of the slowest team to do the task plus a half hour. The team would also have to cite what law they were following to show that they weren't just trying to weasel out of the task, which could lead to longer delays ("What do you mean you lost the scriptures? I don't remember which exact verse it is!") It might be interesting to see which 'religious' teams would do this and which would say, 'okay, let's ignore religion for this moment...'
Posted Aug 6, 2004 @ 8:38 AM
If Survivor and The Apprentice can start with 16 contestants, TAR can also start with 16 teams. Every episode will be an elimination leg. IMO, this singular change would vastly improve the show.
Posted Aug 6, 2004 @ 4:11 PM
I sure hope they never do. I'm glad they went back to 11 teams.
TAR can also start with 16 teams.
I think non elims are great episodes where you see the difference between the other reality shows and TAR. In TAR you are on a journey within yourself and a journey to the wonders of the world as well as a race for a million dollars. Non elm legs bring that out for me.
I loved the TAR2 Thailand non elim one where the Racers put aside differences to shop in town while they waited for their train. People bonding through a marvelous experience. And then I loved that I'd see all the teams agan next week without losing any. No, not even Gary at that point cause Dave was cool. I hate losing teams along the way for the most part. More non elims and less with winning the million bucks is my plea.
Also kill the Yield and bring back the real Fast Forward.
Posted Aug 6, 2004 @ 6:43 PM
I loved the TAR2 Thailand non elim one where the Racers put aside differences to shop in town while they waited for their train...I hate losing teams along the way for the most part. More non elims and less with winning the million bucks is my plea.
But IMO, this would not be a RACE. We might as well watch just a travel show. Lonely Planet/Pilot Guide/Globetrekker is a wonderful TV program that shows this.
What TAR is for me, it's a competition with travelling as a fantastical backdrop. I for one would love to compete on the show even if the grand prize is a blue ribbon. But I still want to see that every leg of the race has true consequence for finishing last. I also feel that the drama of TAR comes from the racers competing to be not eliminated. In the TAR2 Thailand non-elim episode, Chris & Alex didn't even bother to step on the mat before Tara & Wil because they knew it was non-elim. Same for Jon & Kelly on the Malaysian beach. Neither of those teams were worried because they knew they would still be in the Race. This makes for boring TAR. IMHO, eliminating non-elims is the way to go.
Posted Aug 6, 2004 @ 8:01 PM
The other thing is that the position of the non-elims is a bit too predictable-- maybe they could position them a bit more randomly, or start them early in the game. Instead of having them in legs 6, 8, 10, and 12 like they did in 1 and 2, they could have them in, say, 3, 7, 8, and 11. I wonder if they may be doing that this season.
Edited by sardonic, Aug 6, 2004 @ 8:03 PM.
Posted Aug 7, 2004 @ 8:09 AM
Suggestions: Put more Fast Forwards and take away the Yield. Oh ya, and have 12 teams for the race instead of 11 to have less non-elimination legs. That will be good.
Posted Aug 7, 2004 @ 12:02 PM
To each their own. To me it is The AMAZING Race and not just not a mere race. I want to see the teams amazed, be amazed myself and I could care a fig who wins. There is enough "winning" saturation in this culture to make me ill. I've always seen this show as a quest more than anything else. That's the beauty of this show. It means different things to different people.
But IMO, this would not be a RACE. We might as well watch just a travel show.
Edited by free vagabond, Aug 7, 2004 @ 12:05 PM.
Posted Aug 7, 2004 @ 1:58 PM
(A task might be something like "There are five chocolates with white centers in this pile. For each one you find, your prize improves.") The first level could be like $25 or an item that is used in an collect the items task. The next one might be $50 or a map with the future places in the leg marked on it. The next level could be $100 or the ability to switch a roadblock when the person who's doing it is frightened or something. The fourth level could be $200 or so and a language book for the country that they're going to next, and the final level could be $500 or a fast forward (not counting on the one you could use) or a car or bike to use for the remainder of the leg. Teams wouldn't know the prizes they had until they declared they stopped.
It'd be offered on every leg, and each team would be limited on how many they could use (3 or 4), and on each leg one team could capture each prize level. It might be hard setting up these tasks, but they don't have to be much different than a roadblock...(Eat 1/5 of a kg of caviar to advance each level.)
Posted Aug 7, 2004 @ 3:02 PM
I personally don't have a problem with non-elemination legs. To me they've just always been a part of the game. I do like the fact that now all the clues say "may be eliminated" so the teams don't know ahead of time. Still, there are times when a team is more or less expecting a non-elim leg (I think Tian and Jaree were truly surprised when they were eliminated), so I'm not too opposed to the money stripping idea if it gives everyone an incentive to hustle their asses to the mat.
Posted Aug 7, 2004 @ 4:59 PM
That's the beauty of this show. It means different things to different people.
Word, free vagabond.
Posted Aug 7, 2004 @ 6:28 PM
Posted Aug 8, 2004 @ 1:50 AM
1) Add more time stamps on individual teams for the amount of time it takes each one to do a task.
2) Add a lie-o-meter that tallys the fibs each team gives.
3) Translate foreign language whenever possible with captioning so I understand what the locals are saying even if the team doesn't.
Some of this could be made part of the web-site, but it would be nice to know as I watch how well or terrible a team is doing.