Dinner for Five
Posted Jun 5, 2004 @ 7:13 PM
Posted Jun 5, 2004 @ 8:44 PM
The biggest drain was CNR. Has he even made a film? The only credits that I saw pop up with his name were old TV shows that weren't popular ever (except for "Match Game", but that's hardly acting).
He also did loads of theater work, which is where he first met Gene Rayburn, and is an acting coach and director. The only thing that bugged me about the show was Jon Favreau talking about Elf again, but that could just be because Will Ferrell annoys me so I refuse to see the movie.
Edited by VolWing, Jun 5, 2004 @ 9:42 PM.
Posted Jun 7, 2004 @ 3:22 PM
Posted Jun 7, 2004 @ 7:39 PM
I remember him doing that a long time ago, but I figured then it was for work, since Burt had some juice in the business. Now what does it get him?
Oh, I don't think he's kissing his ass anymore (if he ever did). They are actually really close. Maybe he really does admire his friend.
Posted Jun 7, 2004 @ 7:57 PM
It would have been better to have BR and CD or BR and DD on with two other people who didn't know them. With other people in the mix it wouldn't seem as odd to bring up stories because everyone at the table doesn't already know them.
Edited by biakbiak, Jun 7, 2004 @ 7:58 PM.
Posted Jun 8, 2004 @ 9:19 AM
Posted Jun 12, 2004 @ 3:16 PM
Also, Jon made me laugh when DA was talking about how Woody Allen would love to work with DL but was probably too intimidated to ask and he starts relating a story about telling Robert DeNiro that Woody really wanted to work with him and Jon quips "we are talking about black people not people who date black people."
Edited by biakbiak, Jun 12, 2004 @ 3:17 PM.
Posted Jun 22, 2004 @ 10:43 AM
But the whole hamburgers/fish debate was remarkably fresh version of that dog-tired gays/hets communication gap. The palpable discomfort/playfulness was a lot of fun.
And the call-back over the closing credits...how cool is it that a conversation at the Algonquin roundtable ended with "Touche, motherfucker!"?
Also, "Not this network: no commercials...and no viewers." Snerk!
Posted Jun 22, 2004 @ 11:01 AM
Posted Jun 22, 2004 @ 3:08 PM
"My son was a bastard, but I just married his father so he's not a bastard anymore."
Posted Jun 24, 2004 @ 12:50 PM
I couldn't hear/make out Amy Irving's comment in the end about the cost Faizon's hamburger being $69.
Posted Jun 26, 2004 @ 3:26 PM
Also, this is the ep where my respect for Favreau hit an all-time low. I so, so admired him when he did Swingers, when he did Elf, even when this show started. But the more I watch... When he started puffing on that cigar and telling David Cross that he saw SNL as a stepping stone, that the only reason he did Second City was to get to SNL, and the only reason he wanted to do SNL was to get bigger movie roles, it just smacked of condescension and presumption to me. As if he were funny enough to land on SNL. As if he's really that great of an actor. Mr. Rudy's Nerdy Best Friend. Molly Shannon, as much as her schtick can annoy me from time to time, has more funny in her fingertip than he does. Plus, she was so modest and discreet in real life, nothing like Mary Katherine Gallagher. If Favreau had even an ounce of self-deprecation, maybe I'd like him more.
Posted Jul 6, 2004 @ 8:47 PM
I like Ray Romano well enough as a stand-up. I tolerate him as a sitcom star. But he's made, what, three films? One I only heard of on "Dinner", and another a cartoon. Nothing worthwhile to add to the conversation - besides the sparkling self-entertainment query.
Even worse was Ron Eldard. Was he even in a movie? The one time I saw his name, it had his "ER" credit attached. He wasn't even a regular there.
I'm starting to dislike Favreau as well. Between the constant "Swingers"/ "Made" references and his behavior at the "Celebrity Poker Showdown", he just reeks of self-importance.
Posted Jul 6, 2004 @ 9:01 PM
That said Ray was a drag on the conversation.
Edited by biakbiak, Jul 6, 2004 @ 9:05 PM.
Posted Jul 7, 2004 @ 7:26 AM
Yeah, Ron's done a lot of theater, so he has more credibility to me than Ray. Is this show supposed to only include movie stars? Or are theater actors and TV actors also included purposefully?
In terms of Hollywood experience, I think Ray deserves to be on this show more than someone like Faison Love. Ugh. I know he can be funny, but he annoys me. Has he ever been in a movie that didn't suck? Has he ever actually acted in a role? I got so pissed off when he was making fun of stuffy theater actors in front of the brilliant Alan Cumming, who has done more quality theater AND film than Faison could ever do in 20000 lifetimes.
Edited by TheRealJanBrady, Jul 7, 2004 @ 7:27 AM.
Posted Jul 24, 2004 @ 12:41 PM
Posted Jul 24, 2004 @ 8:19 PM
Nothing against the TV people, per se. Someone like Ted Danson, who has also done films and seems to have stories to tell, is interesting. Judd Apatow was good because he had shows that were different, and didn't mind sharing stories about the cancellation.
It all goes back to Charles Nelson Reilly. I'm sorry, I learned upthread that he has done a lot of theater; to me, he is the Will to Brett Sommers's Grace on "Match Game". He had nothing to say in the episode he was in. I give Faison Love only enough credit to commend him for referring to crappy movies as crappy. But when you keep appearing in crap, I think you lose the right to criticize.
Posted Jul 24, 2004 @ 9:58 PM
Hated the show with Amy Irving, because I hate Amy Irving. You'd think all she had to talk about was her itchy vagina. So interesting. Not.
Posted Aug 29, 2004 @ 4:04 PM
Posted Sep 25, 2004 @ 9:46 PM
Speaking of which, though I am a big fan of Kevin Smith, he totally entrapped Favreau into a "Swingers" reference. It went something like:
Smith: So, where do most people recognize you from?
Favreau: something, but not what Smith was looking for[/]
Smith: [i]Prodding further, i.e Where specifically
Favreau: blah blah, "Swingers" blah
Smith: I was wondering how long before the first reference
Total setup! It's much more satisfying to wait for the catch.
Obviously, Smith is gunning for Favreau (like he said). Because soon after, he said something about a statement from Jon sounding rehearsed. Meanwhile, half his statement from his last appearance (the one with Affleck) came straight off his "Evening with Kevin Smith" DVD.
Yes, I'm that big a fan that I bought that. But that kind of thin-skinnedness does not become you, Kevin. Leave that for Michael Moore.
Posted Oct 11, 2004 @ 9:29 PM
And Billy Bob Thornton was just as unengaging in this format as he is on every talk show, though I do want to know what TV-movie director he was slagging, and nothing in his "3-4 years ago" timeframe stands out as an obvious suspect on hisIMDb profile.
Posted Oct 12, 2004 @ 1:11 AM
Posted Oct 12, 2004 @ 10:38 AM
Posted Apr 7, 2005 @ 12:54 AM
I can't wait for the next episode, supposedly some Arrested Development cast members will be on. That should be good times.
Posted Apr 7, 2005 @ 8:57 AM
Posted Apr 7, 2005 @ 1:14 PM
Although I hatehatehate him, I would love to see Milch put him in Deadwood so he can be savagely cornholed by the gang at the Gem, stomped on by the whores, then while still alive fed to the pigs.
Posted Apr 7, 2005 @ 1:38 PM
And I loved it when the guy from Deadwood called him an asshole.
Well the two are friends and he only did it because Jay didn't realize why the waitress brought him coffee.
Jay is a dick but more importanly he has ceased being funny.
I also hate Michael Rappaport so this ep was all about Timothy and Jon.
Posted Apr 11, 2005 @ 1:24 PM
Loved, loved, loved seeing Jeffery Tambor and Jason Bateman with Bonnie Hunt.
Edited by jodela-he-hoo, Apr 12, 2005 @ 8:12 AM.
Posted Apr 11, 2005 @ 7:40 PM
You are definitely correct there. A dick, not funny, and what a freaking drama queen! Quite a whiny little bitch.
Jay is a dick but more importanly he has ceased being funny.
I wish Bonnie Hunt was on every week. I love her. It would also have been nice to hear more from Timothy Olyphant.
Edited by JohnBoysMole, Apr 11, 2005 @ 7:40 PM.
Posted Apr 12, 2005 @ 3:14 PM
Loved the half Arrested Development table. I had no idea Jeffrey Tambor taught acting.