Racers Head-to-Head: an All-Star Edition of TAR
Posted Jan 10, 2004 @ 4:50 PM
I think it would be just as interesting with old teams because it would be more competitive. And there would be all new inter-team relationships and alliances. If I could pick 12 teams to return they would be:
Rob & Brennan (because they have to)
The Guidos (evil team #1)
Dave and Margaretta (because they got screwed)
Tara and Wil (evil team #2)
Blake and Paige (just plain funny)
Teri and Ian (Tara and Wil: The Elder Years)
John Vito and Jill (Dave and Margaretta: The Younger Years)
Zach (Hey, Flo quit)
Ken and Gerard (because they rock)
Mary and Peach (because Mary kicks ass)
Frank and Margarita (they were so close)
and the Frats
It's so hard to choose.
Posted Jan 10, 2004 @ 9:03 PM
As of TAR5, TAR4 teams will be old teams. I don't see why they should be excluded, and CBS certainly wouldn't leave them out.
I think it would be just as interesting with old teams because it would be more competitive.
Posted Jan 11, 2004 @ 9:25 AM
Posted Jan 11, 2004 @ 3:32 PM
But... how interesting would it be if they did only 4th through 6th place finishers -- the Top 3 teams all had their day in the sun, after all?
Just putting that out there.
Posted Jan 11, 2004 @ 3:42 PM
Posted Jan 11, 2004 @ 3:58 PM
Unfortunately, any way you slice it, I doubt that some of our favorite TWoP posters who performed poorly would be selected, such as TNT and Amander & Chris, those underachievers!
Posted Jan 11, 2004 @ 5:02 PM
If the next race that's run is an All-Star Edition, let's include the winners of the first five races, one additional fan-selected team from each race, and two producer picks. If they went with the previous CBS-site popularity polls, that brings in Oswald/Danny, JonVito/Jill, and Al/Jon, plus someone from 1 and 5. But I'm guessing some of the likely teams would be in different circumstances now than they were when they raced and wouldn't be able to take 5 or 6 weeks off again, so you wouldn't necessarily get all the teams you wanted anyway.
Or better yet, give five spots to previous winners, five spots to the favorite runner-ups from each race, and five spots to those teams voted to have been most shafted by bad luck in each race. Then don't have any non-elimination rounds. (This ain't the NFL pro-bowl, this is serious). This would be the only way Chris and Amander could get a sniff ;-)
Posted Jan 12, 2004 @ 12:20 AM
*The most popular winner.
*The least popular winner. (Yes, that means we have to bring back Flo.)
*The most popular last-place team-- seriously, anybody can go in one leg, so we give someone a second chance. But don't let it happen again.
*The best team never to use a Fast Forward.
*The most popular team overall.
*The least popular team overall-- but since Flo's already here, we'll have to find a runner-up.
*The best team never to accrue a time penalty.
*The best fourth-place team.
*The team to end their race with the most money-- who needs to pay $500 for a cell phone call in the last leg? (If a team's frugal enough, they can reach this point without having to be in the final 3.)
*The team with the best title quote. ("Did You See How I Stopped It? With My Face!")
*The team who made the stupidest mistake, to see if they learned from it or are doomed to repeat it. (Heave, because when they should have zigged, they took a taxi)
*A team chosen at random.
Posted Jan 12, 2004 @ 8:33 PM
ETA the following:
It's Also-Ran. I mean, if you set out to specifically exclude people who won, then to me, it's like a consolation round.
I disagreed for awhile b/c it didn't feel right that one team would win a 2nd $1 mln, but I'm starting to come around.
Edited by Frenchteacher, Jan 12, 2004 @ 8:36 PM.
Posted Jan 12, 2004 @ 8:40 PM
Personally, I think that as long as they leave out the obvious cannon fodder (sweet as they may be), they really couldn't go wrong. But with the show consistently struggling to get the big viewing audience (which I'll never understand), I just don't see the concept ever being turned into a reality.
Posted Jan 12, 2004 @ 8:49 PM
how do you define and rate who is the best?
I guess that's kind of the crux of the thread, isn't it? ;)
I think that as long as they leave out the obvious cannon fodder (sweet as they may be), they really couldn't go wrong.
Am I reading this correctly? Are you suggesting that the show not re-invite the clowns? Wow. Just want to make sure I understand correctly.
the show consistently struggl[es] to get the big viewing audience (which I'll never understand)
I think the obvious solution is to call it "Survivor: The Amazing Race."
Posted Jan 12, 2004 @ 8:58 PM
Posted Jan 12, 2004 @ 9:58 PM
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 12:02 AM
I think he's suggesting that if they were all GREAT competitors who all could conceivably win, that would be one hell of a race (not that it's ever NOT one hell of a race, but you know what I mean).
Edited by Ronin47, Jan 13, 2004 @ 12:04 AM.
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 12:41 AM
Start by inviting back all the Racers. That's right, all 46 (or more including TAR5) teams. Have them all meet at the starting line (for this, it'd have to be on the 50-yd line at some stadium...possibly Reliant here in Houston).
Then come the changes. First, all legs are elimination. Second, the first leg will have a mass elimination at the beginning then continue as a non-elim leg, making leg 2 the first normal leg. Out of the teams, only 14 get flights out of the country. That makes the inital run to the airport(s) all the more important.
Using this idea, every team would get a second chance and the true cream would rise to the top. Granted, it would also probably lead to quick elimination of several fan-favorites (I don't see the Cha or the BFGs doing well in this scenario), but in all likelyhood the top 3 or 4 from each season would be well represented.
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 3:16 AM
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 4:01 AM
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 8:46 AM
SVNBob: Start by inviting back all ... 46 ... teams. [Have] a mass elimination at the beginning ..., only 14 get flights out of the country. That makes the inital run to the airport(s) all the more important.
That's just too funny. Starting in Houston sounds good, we'll give each team a 1986 Toyota Celica with one red or yellow door, and the first clue directs them to a route marker in Dealey Plaza. (That should give the older folks a slight edge ;-) There they receive the news that the limited flights are leaving from Phoenix, Denver, St. Louis, and Atlanta.
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 6:00 PM
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 6:53 PM
I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. Isn't that what they did for Survivor? Still, I enjoy reading all these fuddled rule schemes people come up with for "All Star Qualification".
I think they should just invite back whomever they want to invite back and not have any sort of rules about it.
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 9:18 PM
I think they should just invite back whomever they want to invite back and not have any sort of rules about it. Go over past racers and pick a new set they think will gel and make for good tv.
I'm sure that's what's eventually going to happen, but it's fun playing producer & coming up w/ ideas of our own, too. I love the idea of free-for-all, every-team-invited-back idea, with the mass elimination. Think about what it would sound like: "Monicker and Sheree, Amander and Chris, Debra and Steve, David and Jeff, ..., Gary and Dave, Mary and Peach, ..., Heather and Eve, Derek and Drew, ..., Margaretta and David, and Matt and Ana, you are the teams not to get a flight. I'm sorry to tell you you've all been eliminated from the race. Whew! The Philimination would take up the entire episode.
(Btw, team names were chosen pretty much at random. No bearing on who I think would actually not get a flight.)
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 9:36 PM
Do we have enough teams who have a member with a name that ends in an "a" so that we can have all All "ER" TAR?
Monicker and Sheree, Amander and Chris
Posted Jan 13, 2004 @ 10:53 PM
Sorry, I just couldn't resist!
Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 12:01 AM
(I don't see the Cha or the BFGs doing well in this scenario)
Most interesting. FWIW, we were actually at LAX in 5th or 6th place - regardless of what you think you saw, or what you were shown. But you might still be right (unless we depart from ORD - then Steve and I would beat anyone starting from anywhere in the area...period).
Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 6:04 AM
Posted Jan 14, 2004 @ 7:04 AM
Back on topic, I would really like a huge international poll or something to choose at least half the returning teams...