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Posted Jan 17, 2013 @ 12:56 PM

Whoopi abuses her moderator position so that she gets the last word and cuts people off before going to break. Whoopi is far from the most knowledgeable when it comes to various topics. Although she does make good points about certain things, she often speaks as if her experiences and observations make her an expert that others need to learn from when that's not the case. She defends celebrities to no end which grates. I can tell that she and Barbara are tired of each other.

I gave up watching the show last January as a new year's resolution. I realized I was not enjoying watching and the snark was no longer worth it. I have been home for a week (influenza A) and decided to check in---I was only able to watch for a couple of minutes---. I notices tension between Whoopie and BW. Holy cow! Whoopie looked tired,unkept and uninterested. BW looked frail and tired. Joy looked great.

Whoopie has not improved.

Edited by TWoP Howard, Jan 18, 2013 @ 12:10 AM.
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#102032

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Posted Jan 17, 2013 @ 4:01 PM

Another reason came up to pity Oprah...who was hangin' in Hawaii just about that time for the holidays--yes it was a little glimpse of Oprah's crush on Mr Obama. He's the consummate gentleman and smooth as silk to everyone, and Oprah like many of us has admired him and she (early on) even chased him a bit. Yeah let's spend the holidays in Hawaii! Maybe we will get an invite to the inner circle. Poor Oprah, but we really can't blame her. Maybe she did get a kiss under mistletoe after all.


Gail mentioned Oprah has "places in Hawaii". I know she has a place Hana which is the remote part of Maui, difficult to get to. She probably also a place in Wailea on Maui, I know she used to take her entire staff to Wailea as their xmas present/bonus, but that was the Grand Wailea Hotel, maybe she has a wing there (totally speculating on that). It could be that the "places" she has are all in Hana at her estate, which I understand is quite large.

But the Obamas vacation on Oahu and specifically on the quiet side, on Kailua Beach, just adjacent to the military base there. I know cause I was staying at that same beach a couple of years ago when they were there.

I imagine Oprah would have no difficulty getting an invite to visit with the Obamas and they would probably land her at the military base. I believe she has a heli-pad at her Hana estate. But usually something like that would get reported.
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Posted Jan 17, 2013 @ 4:15 PM

[font=Verdana, Helvetica, Arial,]You'd have to be living under a rock or very, very young not to know the crap Granny thinks she needs to explain. Golden Globe Awards? What? I've never heard of them. Did she mention that Elton John is gay?[/font]


While I realize you exaggerated for effect, some of the things she explains aren't based on living under a rock. I think it's better for her to explain and cover everyone who may not know rather than not explain and leave some people in the dark. Almost every time Barbara interjects to point out pertinent facts, Whoopi says she was getting ready to say them (which I think is a lie). Except for Joy the others can be wrong/mistaken in their comments. Barbara is good for setting the record straight.
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Posted Jan 17, 2013 @ 4:33 PM

I just saw that Charlie Sheen is on and do not know if I should watch my DVR, may just delete. I am sure he is BFF with Whoopi right? Naw, I have been sick for ten days and believe I am coming around the corner so I don't think I can take it.
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Posted Jan 17, 2013 @ 5:08 PM

Save yourself athousandclowns. Sheen is on for a couple segments of his own and then one that isn't even his. The co-hosts are pinging him with inane questions/comments read off their blue cards so he looks like he's watching a tennis match trying to listen/answer each one. Gems like "If you weren't doing coke and you weren't mentally ill, what were you?" "When you were in bed onscreen acting with Lindsey Lohan did you give her any life advice?"

But just when you think this is just another The Spew standard interview, Whoopi tells us that Sheen has a foot fetish and tells Sheen what great feet Joy has so of course Joy takes off her shoes to show her feet to the guest who appropriately (?) ooooh and ahhhhs. Weird.

But before all this amazing tv we sat through an American Idol commercial, er Not Hot Topic then what was probably a Girl Scout cookie commercial except they tried one and pronounced them awful and tasteless complete with big exaggerated sour face. I hope the Girl Scouts put a stop on the check.

I'd say you made the right decision athousandclowns.

Edited by Cosmocrush, Jan 17, 2013 @ 6:02 PM.

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Posted Jan 17, 2013 @ 5:41 PM

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Meredith Vieira may have her own talk show.
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Posted Jan 17, 2013 @ 7:55 PM

Have they discussed the Current TV situation on this show yet? I too have lost Joy's show and I'm pissed!
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Posted Jan 17, 2013 @ 7:55 PM

Whoopi abuses her moderator position so that she gets the last word and cuts people off before going to break. Whoopi is far from the most knowledgeable when it comes to various topics. Although she does make good points about certain things, she often speaks as if her experiences and observations make her an expert that others need to learn from when that's not the case. She defends celebrities to no end which grates.


When Whoopi going off about no one depriving her of Diet Coke as counting as one of the most interesting moments, they need to hang it up.


Bitsy and Sherri will say anything that comes into that vacuum beween their ears. They will screech, chop the air, and pop their eyes out to lend truth and importance to their opinions. They're just beginning to realize the effect their behavior has on their kids, but they can't stop because they think they are card-carrying adults. They are too proud, and don't want to shut up and learn other things that life has to teach them. One of the biggest clues to immaturity is shouting all the answers.

I think that Whoopi remembers all her bad behavior and the prices she's paid for indulging it. She fears she's permanently marked her kids and grandkids, spoiled them or bribed them when she didn't know how to parent. Her superior know-it-all attitude and lecturing of others "We don't know, we weren't there"; her sarcasm and gloom are all coping mechanisms for dealing with the dark tumultuous storm she carries around under those brooding curls. Periodically, like a volcano, she blows up over very inconsequential words or issues. It's the teapot, releasing the steam so the lid does not blow off. I believe her wearying defense of all celebrities may be her most dependable defense to keep a weak ego taped together: she may believe that her celebrity, and the celebrity of others, proves self-worth.

Edited by Pepperbird, Jan 17, 2013 @ 7:57 PM.

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Posted Jan 17, 2013 @ 10:37 PM

When Josh Gad was on today, the ladies really displayed their lack of interviewing talent. First of all, Bitsy raved about how geat "book of Mormon" is. I'm thinking she has not seen it, because I don't think she'd appreciate the humor. Or the nudity. But - it said on her card the play was great, so she praises him for it.

Back to the interviewing - This guy has two projects they were talking about - a TV show, and a play. Two totally different things. But, since their interviewing "style" is to take turns reading questions off blue cards, there is no continuity from one answer to the next question. He answers a question about 1600 Penn, then book of mormon. Then 1600 Penn, then back to Mormon. Because everyone has to have a turn reading a question to him. and it's never anyone's turn to LISTEN to the answers. The next question should flow naturally - as though you're having a conversation.

They don't even make eye contact with the person they're asking. It reminds me of a 5th grade classroom, where the class is taking turns reading aloud from a textbook.
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 12:19 AM

They don't even make eye contact with the person they're asking. It reminds me of a 5th grade classroom, where the class is taking turns reading aloud from a textbook.

That's kind of insulting to fifth graders backformore, but I agree it's a mess. Whoopi has learned to look better than all of them by just sitting there and shutting up - unless she KNOWS them of course then she has give the all knowing smile/smirk and ask a question.

And I had the same thought when Bitsy told Josh Gad how "great he was in Book of Mormon" for the same reasons.
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#102041

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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 1:41 AM

Have they discussed the Current TV situation on this show yet? I too have lost Joy's show and I'm pissed!


Not that I know of. I,too, an upset over losing Current! BEsides losing Joy's show, there were others that I liked and watched also. I even wrote an email and got a response saying they canceled Current because their contract was with Current TV and not the new owners.
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 1:55 AM

I still have Current TV so it must depend on your cable provider. I have Comcast. But in any case, look how crazy Babs was over Joy plugging just one particularly good night - Joy isn't going to be allowed to talk about her show.
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#102043

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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 11:25 AM

I don't think she'd appreciate the humor. Or the nudity.

Granted I saw Book of Mormon quite early during previews, but I don't recall any nudity. The outrageous language and scatological jokes might not be Bitsy's cup of tea, but she's a former jock with two sons, so maybe I'd be surprised.
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 12:44 PM

Coincidence that Whoopi took the "day" off when Billo was a guest?
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 1:12 PM

Coincidence?

This: they always seem to schedule O'Reilly on the show right after there is something big in the news, particularly when there is good big news about the President and his initiatives. So today, how very predictable that they (Geddie) has O'Reilly on immediately to shit all over the President's gun regulation proposals.

Edited by Bossa Nova, Jan 18, 2013 @ 2:39 PM.

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#102046

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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 1:36 PM

Taping Fridays backfires on them so many times it's a joke. Like today, for instance. Instead of discussing what ALL of the other programs are discussing -- Lance Armstrong & Oprah -- we get transgendered Jazzy AGAIN (this is the 3rd time at least), Tom Arnold's testicles, that asshole O'Reilly & some makeovers. And then on Monday's show, 4 days later, we will get to hear all about the interview, after Barb explains to us who Lance Armstrong is, of course ..

Oh, and O'Reilly scares the living shit out of Elisabeth. And even though they are on the same team, I noticed that she wasn't wearing one of her itty-bitty micro-minis for him. I guess it's because he isn't one of her tv boyfriends on account of him scaring the shit out of her and all. I will say this about him -- I love how he never even bothers to look her way, even when she's speaking.

Today's show was nothing but filler. And it was basically The Charlie Sheen Show the other day, which cracked my ass up. What other show would give Charlie Sheen 4 segments? Maybe 2 years ago. I like the guy & all, but really? Way to be hot & relevant, show! It was hilarious how they would throw to commercial and say "And Charlie is sticking around some more," "We will be back with more Charlie," "Can you stay with us for another segment?" etc.. Too funny. I guess Cantone had a dentist appointment. The fact that they can't book anybody is becoming glaringly obvious at this point.

Edited by Cementhead, Jan 18, 2013 @ 1:54 PM.

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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 2:20 PM

Something that bugged me -
Earlier this week, talking about Lance Armstrong, Joy asked the question "doesn't steroid use cause testicles to shrink?" The audience responded as if she were telling a naughty joke, and the other women more or less 'shushed' her. When she tried explaining what she meant - that possibly armstrong's cancer was partially caused by his steroid use - BW held up her hand and told her no. there's nothing to suggest that using steroids caused his cancer.
It bothered me because joy was asking a legitamate question, one that came to my mind as well. But because she said "testicles" , everyone laughed.
We accept that nitrates in meat, second-hand smoke, additives in food, prescription meds, etc, all can increase our risk of cancer. Is it all that outrageous to suggest that injecting yourself daily with powerful drugs that enhance performance by increasing hormone levels - can also increase cancer risk?

Today, there are some cancer spcialists, who, while denying that there is any proof that steroids CAUSE cancer, back up what Joy was wondering. there's a story on ABC news that speculates that the steroids may have accelerated the cancer, and that steroids can increase your cancer risk. (sorry, I tried to link the story, I can't get the link to work)
Anyway, I was bugged because Joy saying 'testicles' was treated like a naughty joke, and the topic was shut down. I miss the days when The View could actually DISCUSS a topic for a few minutes at least, instead of just promoting sponsors, cranking out one-liners, and repeating what other people say. they finally touch on a a genuine "Hot Topic", and then shut up, because, in Whoopi's words "we don't know, we weren't there."
Why not discuss somethign as relevant as how this affects cancer research? all the money donated to fund cancer through Armstrong's legacy, and the info about what may have contributed to his cancer wasn't revealed. It's an important story, but i guess the producers didn't tell the ladies how to feel about it, so they couldn't discuss it.

Edited by backformore, Jan 18, 2013 @ 2:24 PM.

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#102048

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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 2:51 PM

Taping Fridays backfires on them so many times it's a joke.

No kidding, but since the taped Fridays and four day work weeks are the legacy of Rosie I look at it like she's sticking it to them everytime it happens. Ha! Word to your entire post Cementhead

backformore I've long given up on the idea of these co-hosts having anything near an normal discussion on a real topic - they seem incapable of listening to each other and the producers are more concerned with the speed in which they can get through the Not Hot Topic List but you're right in that when both Joy and Whoopi tried to bring it up, Babs just shut it down and moved on.

I deleted today's show as soon as I saw Tom Arnold. This show is really scraping the bottom of the barrel these days.
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 2:55 PM

I thought it was telling the O'R said he sent over his talking points last night (meaning Wed) and questioned whether anyone read them. LOL

He must know they never research the topics and could care less if he watched the show. Evidently he doesn't.
Only EH had watched his show the night before.

Sherri looked extremely uncomfortable about the Jazzy topic/promotion. Another worry for her raising her son.
Something tells me everyone knows about Jazzy in her school/community.
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 3:41 PM

I also gave a decided "ugh" when they announced Tom Arnold as guest cohost, but he was the only one with the guts to challenge O'Reilly. The women are all scared of him.
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 4:01 PM

I would really hate to be Jazzy's mother if every other mother thought like shit-for-brains-Sherri!! I would definitely go into helicopter Mom mode & be SO in her stupid-ass face.

Haleth, I totally agree with you. I thought Tom was really gunnin' for a confrontation, but Billy knows when to fold 'em.
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 4:56 PM

I thought Joy's question about causing cancer was a good one, and was surprised at how the others responded.

My first thought was what about Lyle Alzado? He was a pro football player who died in 1992 of a type of brain cancer. Lyle, who started using them in college, and was very outspoken against steriods and blamed them for his brain cancer. BTW, Lyle was on Alan Thicke's show Animal Crack-ups quite a bit.

The cancer connection is a really legitimate question. Nobody on their whole show knows about Alzedo. Giving them the slight benefit of the doubt, maybe if Whoopi or Barbara especially, had the time they would think of it. Surely...
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 5:33 PM

They probably won't get around to talking about Lance Armstrong's Oprah interview until Tuesday, since they are probably off for MLK day and/or preempted due to the inauguration (which I think is Monday?)
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 6:49 PM

Kudos to Tom Arnold for challenging Bill O'Reilly. Even the audience was against what BO was saying. I could have swore I heard Barbara demand the audience applaud Bill. Did I really hear that? I think the reason no one on the panel will say anything against him is because he will just go on his show and tear them to shreds. Cowards.

Bill Maher's show starts up again tonight. I guess I shouldn't be surprised he wasn't invited on the View to promote it. I have to believe there is a LONG list of celebs who won't come on this show, either because of Elisabeth or because Elisabeth doesn't want them on.
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 7:22 PM

When she tried explaining what she meant - that possibly armstrong's cancer was partially caused by his steroid use - BW held up her hand and told her no. there's nothing to suggest that using steroids caused his cancer.
It bothered me because joy was asking a legitamate question, one that came to my mind as well. But because she said "testicles" , everyone laughed.


And I am pretty sure this is what is generally thought. I think they covered this in the documentary about Lance and I took from that that it was a likely cause. How does BaWa know what caused his cancer?
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 7:35 PM

I thought Joy said testicle, singular, as a joke since Armstrong has only one, and that's why people laughed.
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 8:01 PM

And I am pretty sure this is what is generally thought. I think they covered this in the documentary about Lance and I took from that that it was a likely cause. How does BaWa know what caused his cancer


It had been speculated about in the past, but up until now, Armstrong has adamantly denied using any performance-enhancing drugs.
Now that he has admitted it, it's a legit question. Especially since his foundation has collected money for cancer research. You can't study the effects of steroids when people deny taking them.
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 8:35 PM

And then on Monday's show, 4 days later, we will get to hear all about the interview, after Barb explains to us who Lance Armstrong is, of course ..

As fl2dc pointed out, there's no Monday show because of the Inauguration. All the networks have wall-to-wall coverage, so just another four-day weekend for The Ladies of The View. Joy's Current show isn't going to be shown, either.
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 9:13 PM

Then it will be Tuesday, Barbara will explain who Oprah is as well and that she was a mentor to OW
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Posted Jan 18, 2013 @ 10:05 PM

Bill O'Reilly's appearance generated so much cross-talk that my head was ringing. Barbara surprised by going into all-out shrieking mode, as if channeling Elisabeth. Billo just smirked and taunted them for not reading his talking points. He was there to get what he wanted at the least personal cost to himself. Universally supercilious to all the women, he even made a verbal feint at Tom's manhood. I think they should have invited Tom's ex-wife Roseanne Barr instead to fence with Bill on "Friday Guy-Day."

Whoopi would have been dead weight if she had been there. She knew she couldn't keep up or use her moderator position to override Tom or Bill, so she opted to split, leaving Barbara to moderatation-by-screaming.

O'Reilly scares the living shit out of Elisabeth. And even though they are on the same team ... I love how he never even bothers to look her way, even when she's speaking.


Bull's-Eye! Word to that!
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