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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 4:04 PM

What a piece of work she was. Those kids must have been brainwashed, why else would they make ridiculous comments like "No one can stay with one person" when humans have been doing just that for close to 5,000 years.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 4:04 PM

The fading accents and unbelievableness of the stories have me believing that actors were used on the past few shows. I mean, come on...


Bingo.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 5:56 PM

Well, that lifestyle isn't for me and I don't think they should expose their children to what goes on in their bedroom, but my opinion is if both partners are consenting adults and OK with an open relationship, it's their choice. I don't want people trying to convince me how to live my life, with regards to "morality". So I'm not going to try and tell them how to live theirs. Now medical facts are a different matter so I don't feel hypocritical saying I think they should definitely practice safe sex.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 5:58 PM

Holy cow, these open marriage people today were right up there with Babyman on the weirdness scale.
I kept thinking the woman had to be a fake she was so hyped up and out there....but they went into so much depth in their background I came to think no way Phil could have put that whole sideshow together. Who is thinking these shows up????? Sheesh.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 6:38 PM

These last few shows have had such idiots that I think I may be able to quit watching soon. I now have to turn the volume down to just barely hearable because of the wailing, whining, and nonsense. Who wants to stay in these relationships? They are too stupid to be really believable.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 7:57 PM

The woman was just plain nasty. Her "husband" really needs to wrap it up as theres no telling whats growing up inside of there. He also needs to head over to the Maury Show and get a DNA test done on those kids of his.
And what the hell is he thinking? When I was a kid, I was taught to share but I don't think when he got that same lesson, he learned where the boundaries are at.
You don't share a toothbrush.
You don't share underwear.
And you don't share your womans vagina.

Edited by HappyBoy1981, Feb 23, 2012 @ 8:02 PM.

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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 8:23 PM

I watched Dr Phil years ago and just started watching again this week....GOOD GAWD WTF did Robin do to her face? It was stretched 4-5 years ago but now she's starting to look like the cat lady. Damn.
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Posted Feb 23, 2012 @ 10:02 PM

Oh the open marriage folks sure reeked of fame whoredom. I'll bet you the jabber-jawed woman sent an application to Wife Swap, Trading Spouses, all those TLC Hey-look-at-me! shows and has blogged, written, and pushed her face onto umpteen web cams to get a Youtube following. Loved how the audience was screaming,"SHUT UP!" Next they need to start chanting,"PHIL-LIP! PHIL-LIP! PHIL-LIP!" every time ole Phil gets a snark in.
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Posted Feb 24, 2012 @ 9:00 AM

Was the woman in todays show the biggest whack a doo whore that ever appeared on the Doctor Phil show? Why even get married with an attitude like that? Why not just have a bunch of Friends with Benefits? Will she be so bubbly when she gets diagnosed with HIV/AIDS?

She's no more a whore than the married love triangle guy who had sex with 23 people. At least she and her husband both consented to this.

Speaking of which, I don't buy that he's even bisexual; just straight up gay. Only two of those people were (born) women. Also, Essence was the lest feminine transgendered woman I've ever seen. Come on!!

Well, that lifestyle isn't for me and I don't think they should expose their children to what goes on in their bedroom, but my opinion is if both partners are consenting adults and OK with an open relationship, it's their choice. I don't want people trying to convince me how to live my life, with regards to "morality". So I'm not going to try and tell them how to live theirs. Now medical facts are a different matter so I don't feel hypocritical saying I think they should definitely practice safe sex.


Agreed. No way would I ever be in an open marriage. Hopefully, they always have condoms. I don't think they should've let their kids know about their lifestyle.

Edited by InDueTime84, Feb 24, 2012 @ 9:11 AM.

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Posted Feb 24, 2012 @ 10:19 AM

Hopefully, they always have condoms.


They don't use condoms. They said that. In their twisted minds, they feel that STDs are a result of shame and guilt. Since they feel none of that (spoken like a true whore) then they won't catch any of those diseases.
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Posted Feb 25, 2012 @ 4:17 PM

They don't use condoms. They said that. In their twisted minds, they feel that STDs are a result of shame and guilt. Since they feel none of that (spoken like a true whore) then they won't catch any of those diseases.

Carl said he doesn't always use condoms, Kenya did not answer, although she agreed with her husband. While I think their ideas about STDs are ridiculous, they seemed comfortable with it and since I'm not sleeping with them, they can do what they wish. If someone was to meet one of these people and sleep with them unprotected I would consider them stupid, but it's up to YOU to protect yourself. Carl isn't the only bad guy in that situation. The women he's sleeping with apparently don't take issue with it either.

And while I'm not sure I would actually WATCH porn with my 11 year old, I can understand what Kenya was trying to get at with that approach.

I 100% agreed with the grandmother though, those kids are speaking out of the need for acceptance from their parents, not because that's what they believe.
Kenya, however, was very transparent. She's not as comfortable with this as she wants people to believe she is. She talks too much, justifies too much, explains too much....and her smirk/smile at the end of everything she says is reminiscent of a teenager who does the same when asked to explain their actions.
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Posted Feb 25, 2012 @ 10:52 PM

since I'm not sleeping with them, they can do what they wish.


You may not be sleeping with them directly but you could be sleeping with them indirectly. That's how this stuff gets spread around.

And while I'm not sure I would actually WATCH porn with my 11 year old, I can understand what Kenya was trying to get at with that approach.


I can't think of ANY reason there might be to watch porn with an 11 year old. It's not only wrong but could be illegal as well.
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Posted Feb 25, 2012 @ 10:58 PM

You may not be sleeping with them directly but you could be sleeping with them indirectly. That's how this stuff gets spread around.

No, because I use condoms. It's up to me to protect myself.

As someone else pointed out, I would rather no one ran in and told me how to raise my children with the values they think are correct, so I'm not about to judge these two for teaching their children what they wish to teach them.

It's not like Kenya sat down with some popcorn and critiqued positions....or even presented the fact that it existed. The kid was shown it from a friend, at that point you can't deny it exists or brush it off and hope the kid got it.....or FREAK out and activate the phone tree (which then makes the kid more curious to know WHY they shouldn't be looking at that). At that point Kenya had to figure out how to handle it with HER daughter and she seemingly explained it to her so the kid had an understanding of what sex SHOULDN'T be or that more often then not when two people give a shit about each other sex is NOT what porn portrays it to be, considering some of the things shown in pornography today and how far they go, I can't say I have a problem with that. I wouldn't doubt she activated the phone tree after she handled the situation with her own kid.
While I'm usually on Phil's side when guests start with the "YOU TOOK THAT OUT OF CONTEXT!" crap....he really did in this situation and I think he kind of owes her an apology for it. He used it as a teaser before a commercial break knowing the word "porn" is a hot button word that would cause an emotional reaction from his viewers and keep them tuned in. Most people didn't bother to hear or listen to what came after that or Kenya's explanation. When she returns home, I have no doubt she'll hear whispers during the PTA meetings along the lines of "She watches porn with her daughter." which was not AT ALL what the situation was.

Edited by CaughtOnTape, Feb 26, 2012 @ 12:58 PM.

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Posted Feb 26, 2012 @ 3:56 PM

No, because I use condoms. It's up to me to protect myself.

Hows that condom work while going down on your significant other? My point is that condom use doesn't necessarily mean you're safe from contracting an STD. You can get all kinds of diseases from oral sex as well.

While I'm usually on Phil's side when guests start with the "YOU TOOK THAT OUT OF CONTEXT!" crap....he really did in this situation and I think he kind of owes her an apology for it.


Actually he got it right. While I'm no prude and have seen all kinds of porn, none of it and I mean NONE of it is suitable for an 11 year old kid.

Edited by HappyBoy1981, Feb 26, 2012 @ 9:37 PM.

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Posted Feb 27, 2012 @ 2:16 PM

Hows that condom work while going down on your significant other? My point is that condom use doesn't necessarily mean you're safe from contracting an STD. You can get all kinds of diseases from oral sex as well.

Exactly. Besides a condom doesn't protect a man from spreading a genital herpe wart that may be on his groin area nor does a condom protect a man from being exposed to something that may not be exactly in the vaginal area. If the groin areas are touching...yeah, I think you know what I mean.

You may not be sleeping with them directly but you could be sleeping with them indirectly. That's how this stuff gets spread around.

ITA. Any person one sleeps with, they are having sex with all their previous partners too.
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Posted Feb 27, 2012 @ 7:01 PM

Phil was amazingly patient with Crazy Kathy and her son today.
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Posted Feb 28, 2012 @ 11:04 AM

Since he was an only child, crazy mom was still trying to breast feed the little monkey. Does it really matter if she was the town whore? As long as she isn't the town whore now.

Tuesdays show.......
I felt bad for today's guest but in all reality, what could Phil do for her? Her dad and mom were monsters and Phil just had her regurgitate her story. Pretty much all Phil did was say he was sorry.

Edited by HappyBoy1981, Feb 28, 2012 @ 11:05 AM.

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Posted Feb 28, 2012 @ 3:15 PM

I wanted to hear more about how/when/why Crazy Kathy was kidnapped. Clearly, she hasn't gotten enough therapy about that.
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Posted Feb 28, 2012 @ 6:15 PM

Me too.....she just kind of melted and got smaller and smaller throughout the show. Phil stressed he would hand-pick someone to do therapy with her but i hope they do some kind of follow up on them.

I wanted to know where the heck her husband was. If one of my uncles spoke to their mother like that son my grandfather would have hauled off took them into next week. I know Kathy was nuts but the son was making it worse--seems like the father could have somehow improved some of it.

Oy...that case today was unbelieveable. I can't believe I had never heard of this case. I have to go back to watching more HLN.
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Posted Feb 28, 2012 @ 8:42 PM

I have to go back to watching more HLN.


I never could stand that Nancy Grace clone. Those two women are role models for young women who want to be harpies when they grow up.
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Posted Feb 28, 2012 @ 8:50 PM

Was I the only one who did not have much sympathy for Crazy Kathy? I thought she was horrible and nasty. Being old doesn't give you free range to be despicable and not get called on it. I did not buy the "shrinking" act either. I think she's used to behaving badly, then acts hysterical and defenseless to get a free pass. As soon as she looses control, she goes right back to her bad behavior. Dr. Phill seemed to just glide over the fact that she has been behaving this way since her son was a child. Maybe the reason her husband didn't appear is that she really is crazy and he knows it. Maybe he has given up and just doesn't argue anymore. That couple is absolutely insane if they're even considering moving back to Florida. I'd move to Alaska.

From Tuesday's episode, did anybody hear how long the mother's sentence was for her part in aiding the abuse? Did the show mention it? All I remember is that the prosecutor said they charged her with as much as the law allowed which leads me to believe she didn't get as much as she deserved. It's almost a miracle that all three of their children ended up as good as they did.
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Posted Feb 28, 2012 @ 10:26 PM

It's almost a miracle that all three of their children ended up as good as they did.


The one that was kept in the trailer had 4 kids and 3 of them died. She is most likely a total emotional wreck for the rest of her life.
Am not sure what happened to the other kids that the mom and dad from hell had. Usually they only just screw with one of the kids and the others are just too terrified to say anything and thanking God its not them getting totally screwed over.
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Posted Feb 29, 2012 @ 1:17 AM

I fell asleep. What kind of sentence did that monster receive?
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Posted Feb 29, 2012 @ 3:32 PM

Dr Phil is the gift that keeps on giving. Today's show was a complete wackadoodle. I don't know who was crazier: the mom, who fantasized about killing her daughter, or the hyperventilating daghter who makes Christina Crawford seem like the most grateful daughter on Earth. Obviously, Amy needed to leave Debbie's house, but the Dr Phil made it much worse. I doubt they'll ever speak to each other again.

And then, we had JoAnn and Jonathan. These two were so ridiculous that the audience began to chuckle. The mom behaved like Nathan Lane in The Birdcage, whining about how her son disrespects her and how he keeps changing girlfriends.
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Posted Feb 29, 2012 @ 3:40 PM

Holy crap, get the Oscar back from Streep and hand it over to Mom Joann.
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Posted Feb 29, 2012 @ 4:12 PM

Joann, a drama queen par excellence.
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Posted Feb 29, 2012 @ 7:34 PM

Obviously, Amy needed to leave Debbie's house, but the Dr Phil made it much worse. I doubt they'll ever speak to each other again.


You probably got that one right. The daughter totally lost it. But then she was a loser. The mom wasn't a whole lot better though. What kind of man did she have that moves out because of some drama? It was between her and the daughter. All he had to do is sit back with a bag of popcorn and watch the fight.
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Posted Mar 2, 2012 @ 12:12 AM

Another waste of an hour today. Why dosen't Phil admit his show has turned into tabloid TV and save us the trouble?
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Posted Mar 2, 2012 @ 1:32 PM

Both mothers on Wednesday were as crazy as betsy bugs and produced accordingly disturbed offspring. Phil just stirred the hornet's nest then sat back and enjoyed the fall out--real ethical there, "Dr." Phil.
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Posted Mar 2, 2012 @ 7:24 PM

The second mom on that show never quite got her point across as she went psycho in ten seconds flat.
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