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Posted Mar 12, 2004 @ 5:34 PM

WORD!!
When she became 'Kelly the saint', she was so 'holier than thou' about Brandon visiting the porn shop, Valerie, everything.


I think you are talking about the 90210 reunion from last year -- I don't ever remember Brandon himself visiting any porn shop.

I think you mean when the gang were talking about that their set was actually just a warehouse in Van Nuys (in The Valley) and it was near a porno studio or whatever, and Jennie Garth was all suprised that the guys went over there and she said: "I thought you guys went to the candy store."
And they were like: "Well we did, lol."

Jennie was so naive it was cute.

Edited by LouisVuittonRULZ, Mar 12, 2004 @ 5:36 PM.

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Posted Mar 16, 2004 @ 1:30 AM

I think you are talking about the 90210 reunion from last year -- I don't ever remember Brandon himself visiting any porn shop.


There was an episode, when Steve and Brandon ran the newspaper together, so it was one of the last few seasons, and they were doing a story about or running an ad from this new sex shop place (lingerie, sex toys, that kind of place). Kelly was all offended and got off on some rant about porn and basically blamed Brandon for every guy who's ever read a Playboy, if I'm recalling the episode correctly.
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Posted Mar 16, 2004 @ 7:16 AM

Don't even get me started on that episode. It's so typical of Kelly to blame the blameless for that shit.

It's like when Gina and Noah had the strip party and Mel got caught with the stripper. Kelly blamed Gina and Noah for Mel's "Cheating." Whatever. He didn't have to be there. He didn't have to get all grope-y (did he even do that?). She's such a judgemental beeyotch.

But the whole Dylan/Toni storyline won me over.

I loved it, too. The episode where she died really hit me. I had never been emotionally into an episode before...and never was again.
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Posted Mar 16, 2004 @ 6:03 PM

Hated: Kelly (after she got with Dylan and afterwards)


This was when I started hating her too. She became a mean spoiled brat instead of just a spoiled BH brat. If Dylan paid attention to anything else besides her - Brenda, his 'stepmom' and stepsister, etc. - she freaked out and got all pouty.
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Posted Mar 16, 2004 @ 7:05 PM

I totally agree, Kelly's character was so inconsistant. Too much so to be chalked up to "growing up." She went from shallow slut to backstabbing friend to poor little rich girl to condescending biotch to completely holier than thou. I mean really, did she forget about her days boinking seniors in the bushes when she looked down her nose at Valerie?? A little jealous maybe???
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Posted Mar 16, 2004 @ 8:03 PM

There was an episode, when Steve and Brandon ran the newspaper together, so it was one of the last few seasons, and they were doing a story about or running an ad from this new sex shop place (lingerie, sex toys, that kind of place). Kelly was all offended and got off on some rant about porn and basically blamed Brandon for every guy who's ever read a Playboy, if I'm recalling the episode correctly.


Oh, that's right; I had totally blocked that episode out of my memory. Now it is starting to come back.

She did get all feminist on him, which isn't bad at all, 'cause I did agree with her, but still...she wasn't perfect, that's for sure.

This was when I started hating her too. She became a mean spoiled brat instead of just a spoiled BH brat. If Dylan paid attention to anything else besides her - Brenda, his 'stepmom' and stepsister, etc. - she freaked out and got all pouty.


Yeah, that was total character assassination IMO. Kelly just wasn't any fun anymore when they made her this holier than thou person. The TPTB at BH90210 needed to realize it was alright to have Kelly Taylor be a character with flaws -- a character is more relatable that way. I think she was always jealous of Brenda because I think deep down she knew that Dylan would always carry a torch for her, and that is why they put her with Brandon at the end of S4.

I remember hearing that Uncle Aaron tried to get Shannen to come back for S9, but that fell through (he instead got her a job on his new show Charmed of course); that would've been awesome IMO.

Sure Shannen could be a jerk, but Brenda was so entertaining. So much good angst.

Edited by LouisVuittonRULZ, Mar 16, 2004 @ 8:15 PM.

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Posted Mar 17, 2004 @ 3:11 PM

But the whole Dylan/Toni storyline won me over.


They are showing this storyline on FX right now. I like it because everyone had a girlfriend/boyfriend and it wasn't "Oh Kelly is so beautiful", "Kelly is the only girl in the world". Brandon has Susan, Dylan has Toni - they are all pretty much coupled off.

It's so much better than the 'world according to Kelly Taylor'
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Posted Mar 22, 2004 @ 5:42 PM

Does anyone know if they're planning on releasing any of the seasons on DVD soon? I'd love to get some of the high school stuff, but I haven't heard anything. Please help!
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Posted Mar 22, 2004 @ 6:07 PM

She did get all feminist on him, which isn't bad at all, 'cause I did agree with her, but still...she wasn't perfect, that's for sure.


Well, what was really stupid about this show was that at the end she went to the store and bought all this stuff for her and Brandon to play with, and was like "I don't care if you go as long as you go with me," and it was just all so stupid.
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Posted Mar 22, 2004 @ 8:31 PM

Does anyone know if they're planning on releasing any of the seasons on DVD soon? I'd love to get some of the high school stuff, but I haven't heard anything. Please help!

I just read an Entertainment Weekly article today (3/22 issue?) that there are no plans for 90210 or Melrose DVD releases as of yet. They said we'll just have to satisfy our guilty pleasure teen angst with The O.C.
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Posted Mar 24, 2004 @ 7:08 AM

Speaking of The OC, I've noticed that the creators and some of the fans seem to be quite disdainful towards 90210 when they compare the two. It's a little ungrateful seeing as The OC (and every other teen show) owes so much to 90210. Without its success, ther others might not even exist today.
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Posted Mar 24, 2004 @ 7:10 AM

I don't know if it's disdain. It's just a difference of opinion on cheese vs better written stuff. I know 90210 did it first. I just don't know if they did it better.
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Posted Mar 24, 2004 @ 9:10 AM

When it comes to having people who are clearly past their first flush of youth playing high school students, both shows can claim that award -- if they so desire. Ugh.
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Posted Mar 26, 2004 @ 10:47 PM

I just read an Entertainment Weekly article today (3/22 issue?) that there are no plans for 90210 or Melrose DVD releases as of yet. They said we'll just have to satisfy our guilty pleasure teen angst with The O.C.


It must have something to do with the music rights with all the songs that were featured on both 90210 and Melrose over the years.
I like The O.C. a lot, but it doesn't even compare to 90210 and Melrose in terms of campiness and guilty pleasure factors.
Sure, The O.C. might be better written and all, but in reality, it is just a more intelligent revamping and combo of 90210 and Melrose.

Speaking of The OC, I've noticed that the creators and some of the fans seem to be quite disdainful towards 90210 when they compare the two. It's a little ungrateful seeing as The OC (and every other teen show) owes so much to 90210. Without its success, ther others might not even exist today.


Maybe some of The O.C. fans are too young to say they watched the Spelling epics of the '90s, but again some of them are around or older than me (and I am 21).

I remember people asked Mischa Barton if she watched 90210 at all, and she said no because she was too young (she was born in in 1987 afterall), but Rachel Bilson said she adored it and watched it and still watches the reruns. Wall Streeters to college kids and everyone in between loved 90210 and Melrose, and most of those people were smart of enough to realize that they weren't supposed to be earnest shows.

ETA: 90210 will be released on DVD, that is, the Pilot ep will, on Tuesday, June 15th. Here is what the cover art will look like.

Edited by LouisVuittonRULZ, Apr 14, 2004 @ 7:31 PM.

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Posted Apr 20, 2004 @ 5:03 PM

Why can't they release more than just the pilot episode?
I have been watching the old shows (they just re-started the episodes on FX on the weekends) and I am getting 'homesick' for college. (Is that possible?) Tuesday nights, a bunch of us would gather in one room and order pizza and watch 90210. (Damn, I am old!)

IMO, the older episodes are better, I loved Brenda & Dillon and it was just more fun to watch before the Clare/Steve junk and all of the extra characters & storylines!
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Posted Apr 20, 2004 @ 7:33 PM

I think they are just releasing the Pilot on DVD now, because maybe they want to see how those sales do for first. That means all 90210 fans need to buy the Pilot release if we want to see season sets.

In 2005, the DVD rights to the Spelling shows revert from Artisan back to Paramount (since they and Viacom own Spelling Entertainment), so hopefully we'll see season sets for 90210 and Melrose.

*Crosses fingers*
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Posted Apr 21, 2004 @ 1:07 PM

PostToastie, Don't worry, you're not old. That's exactly what I did in college for 90210/Melrose night. Remember how everything got screwed up when they moved Melrose to another night? Ugh.

They played some awesome ones over the weekend on FX. The whole teen rap line episode where Brenda helps catch the guys raping that cheerleader. I didn't remember Andrea being such a bitch in those early episodes though! Man, she was so self-righteous!

Then, I also caught the episode where Steve and Brandon get scammed by the two women (one played Mike's girlfriend on Growing Pains) and they steal Steve's car. I believe that both Steve and Brandon are wearing cowboy boots in that scene and it was cracking me up.
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Posted Apr 24, 2004 @ 2:11 PM

I have been watching the old shows (they just re-started the episodes on FX on the weekends) and I am getting 'homesick' for college. (Is that possible?) Tuesday nights, a bunch of us would gather in one room and order pizza and watch 90210. (Damn, I am old!)

They also show episodes M-F at 8 a.m. CST. When I was in college, 90210 came on Wednesdays at 7 p.m. I belonged to an organization that met from 6-6:59 just so we could make it back to our dorms for 90210! Loved it.
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Posted Apr 24, 2004 @ 2:54 PM

I just heard "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do" on the radio and guess what I immediately thought of?

That's right! Good ol' Emily Valentine. I gotta say, she was my favorite of all of Brandon's many, many women. At least she was three-dimensional. Plus, Brandon yelling at her while they were making the float was one of the few "uncensored" Brandon Walsh moments on the show in its entire run. (The kid was a real politician in the making, huh? Hey, remember that cheesy video that Kelly made David create for Brandon's student body president campaign?)
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Posted Apr 25, 2004 @ 12:44 PM

Remember how everything got screwed up when they moved Melrose to another night? Ugh.


Yes!
I remember that one of my friends was rooming with a girl who loved Full House (it came on the same night). We could never go to their room because it was the 'Full House girl's' tv.

They also show episodes M-F at 8 a.m. CST.


I wish they would have the entire week (weekend included) be on the same schedule. During the week right now, they have the college years but on the weekends it's high school with the bad fashions and bitchy Kelly.

I just heard "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do" on the radio and guess what I immediately thought of?

That's right! Good ol' Emily Valentine. I gotta say, she was my favorite of all of Brandon's many, many women. At least she was three-dimensional. Plus, Brandon yelling at her while they were making the float was one of the few "uncensored" Brandon Walsh moments on the show in its entire run. (The kid was a real politician in the making, huh? Hey, remember that cheesy video that Kelly made David create for Brandon's student body president campaign?)


I always think of 90210 when I hear that song. Remember when they sang it at the talent show and Kelly, Brenda & Donna were like rejects from a Robert Palmer video? WTF?

I hated how they would always bring Emily Valentine back for conflict. Like she was the only thing that could make Brandon react. He was like a robot.
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Posted Apr 26, 2004 @ 12:49 PM

I always think of 90210 when I hear that song. Remember when they sang it at the talent show and Kelly, Brenda & Donna were like rejects from a Robert Palmer video? WTF?


Weren't they going to do "Addicted to Love," orginally but then at the last minute? Emily had the brilliant idea of doing "Breaking Up is Hard to Do," because they wanted to do a song that sent a more real message or some bullshit like that? I concur with the WTF?

Edited by kfree9, Apr 26, 2004 @ 12:51 PM.

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Posted Apr 26, 2004 @ 2:02 PM

I always think of 90210 when I hear that song.


I always think of 90210 whenever I hear that R.E.M. song. You know, the song that Brenda played over and over and over again after she and Dylan broke up?

I sure hope that enough people (myself included) buy the pilot episode. I'd love to have the DVD of season one. I stopped watching 90210 with any regularity when Brenda went to London after their freshman year in college. For me, 90210 was all about the Brenda Years. WoeIsMeKelly had nothing on Brenda.

And Brandon sure did have a lot of women. I always wondered why Steve was considered the womanizer, when Brandon was actually the ho. He was a serial monogamist, but a ho nonetheless. I remember the senior year breakfast (or whatever it was called) when they talked about Brandon's girlfriends (in high school alone!).

Edited by fashionista79, Apr 26, 2004 @ 2:04 PM.

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Posted Apr 26, 2004 @ 2:58 PM

kfree9 said:

They played some awesome ones over the weekend on FX. The whole teen rap line episode where Brenda helps catch the guys raping that cheerleader.
Then, I also caught the episode where Steve and Brandon get scammed by the two women (one played Mike's girlfriend on Growing Pains) and they steal Steve's car.


I caught these too! The first was Ep. 9 The Gentle Art of Listening. The cheerleader was Lisa Dean Ryan- best remembered as Wanda from Doogie Howser. She later had the lead in the short-lived Class of '96 which I really liked.

The car theives were the other storyline in Ep. 13 The Slumber Party, where Kelly tells of how she lost her virginity in 9th grade to that football player in the woods. I realized that Jennie's acting was great there as everyone has said.

I really miss the season 1 episodes as I haven't seen them in years. I loved 90210 as a kid. I just turned 13 as it started, so they were just the right age to be the cool older teens. Then when I got to high school I was disappointed that everyone didn't look about 23 yrs old. Heh.

Edited by jackiecarr, Apr 26, 2004 @ 3:03 PM.

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Posted Apr 26, 2004 @ 10:17 PM

I always think of 90210 whenever I hear that R.E.M. song. You know, the song that Brenda played over and over and over again after she and Dylan broke up?


Wasn't it "Everybody Hurts"? I think I remember that one.
They used alot of REM on the show. They used 'Night Swimming' (my favorite REM song) when Brandon left.

I can't wait till the 'weekday show' starts over with the high school years. Those were the best.
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Posted Apr 26, 2004 @ 10:24 PM

I just started a thread for "Class of '96" on the Dramas board. (I thought it fit more in Dramas than in Soap Operas, somehow.) Sniff.

Can anyone list all the girls that Brandon hooked up with over the series? (You can start by recapping the senior brunch song the girls did about him...) I mean, really, he was the biggest ho on the show!

Edited by NicoleMN6, Apr 26, 2004 @ 10:24 PM.

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Posted Apr 26, 2004 @ 11:31 PM

I always think of 90210 whenever I hear that R.E.M. song. You know, the song that Brenda played over and over and over again after she and Dylan broke up?



Wasn't it "Everybody Hurts"? I think I remember that one.


It was "Losing My Religion."
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Posted Apr 27, 2004 @ 10:08 AM

It was "Losing My Religion."

That is really crazy, because I just learned on "Back Tracks USA" this weekend that Michael Stipe wrote that song about a break-up! Wow, Brenda was really deep then, huh?
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Posted May 4, 2004 @ 9:51 AM

I always think of 90210 whenever I hear that R.E.M. song. You know, the song that Brenda played over and over and over again after she and Dylan broke up?



Wasn't it "Everybody Hurts"? I think I remember that one.


It was "Losing My Religion."


Actually, I believe it was "You are the Everything". But I could be wrong. I know that was the song they were playing after Brendan broke up with Dylan the first time and he snuck off to his family's old beach cabana at the BHBC.

Edited by Jessica1520, May 4, 2004 @ 1:03 PM.

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Posted May 4, 2004 @ 11:30 AM

Weren't they going to do "Addicted to Love," orginally but then at the last minute? Emily had the brilliant idea of doing "Breaking Up is Hard to Do," because they wanted to do a song that sent a more real message or some bullshit like that? I concur with the WTF?


The girls were originally going to change the line "Addicted to Love" to "Addicted to Clothes", and the whole number looked to be cancelled after Brenda's fight with Emily over Dylan, and then Emily came up with the idea to sing "Breaking Up is Hard to Do" instead. (This was after Brenda apologised to Emily over the whole thing-Emily had also kissed Dylan in addition to Brandon).

Edited by clanceycl, May 20, 2004 @ 5:18 PM.

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Posted May 13, 2004 @ 1:54 PM

I always think of 90210 whenever I hear that R.E.M. song. You know, the song that Brenda played over and over and over again after she and Dylan broke up?

Wasn't it "Everybody Hurts"? I think I remember that one.

It was "Losing My Religion."


Actually, I believe it was "You are the Everything". But I could be wrong. I know that was the song they were playing after Brendan broke up with Dylan the first time and he snuck off to his family's old beach cabana at the BHBC.


Nope, it was definitely "Losing My Religion"
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