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[MoosieMc]

Day-ung, I have had a great time reading this whole thread! What a way to spend a lazy NYDay.

My nits & observations:

"Digger" probably comes from a childhood penchant for picking his nose. My folks would chide us with "Stop digging!" when they caught us at same.

Chilton students: How did Madeline & her sidekick survive an academically rigorous school? My answer: The school makes plenty of room for legacies or underachieving children whose folks contribute healthily.

The bottomless fun flask: Have y'ever filled one up? They hold a surprising amount of hooch! And the neat shot glasses? They're available on e-bay and elsewhere. Collapside cups, I believe they're called.

The size of the late, great Independence Inn: There are at least a couple dozen mailboxes in view behind the desk! All are empty, granted, which tells me the Inn probably had dozens of small rooms to begin with, but Mae combined tiny rooms into spacious rooms. Hence, 10.

Since when do ballet dancers wear bras beneath their leotards???

That's all for now. How I enjoy this stuff!

[pathwatch]

Here's one that I thought about when I saw the pilot again not too long ago. Lorelai (and everyone else) claims she got "knocked up" at 16, but she had Rory when she was 16 - and only about 6 months later (Lorelai's BD show was in March or April and Rory's in October). That would mean she got "knocked up" at 15. Stupid, I know, but what the hey.

[Alia James]

Wow, pathwatch, that's a great catch! Especially since the entire series is built around that fact!

[Readster]

Not if she got knocked up just after she turned sixteen. She could of had Rory just a couple months shy of turning seventeen.

[Alia James]

Yeah, but if pathwatch is right about the birthdays falling when they do, then *something* doesn't jibe...

[Brahmsian]

Technically, yes, Lorelai did get "knocked up" at 15. But offhand I'd call that the kind of detail Emily would be much more likely to be fussy about than Lorelai. Lorelai isn't generally inclined to sweat the little stuff unless there's a joke (or a chance to catch Emily making a mistake) involved, after all.

BTW, when have we heard Emily make any reference to when Lorelai got pregnant, as opposed to when she actually gave birth to Rory? I don't believe we have, actually.

[catkok]

I thought Rory's birthday was in August. If Lorelai's birthday is in March or April and she got pregnant with Rory just after her birthday.. then Rory would be born November or December or even in the next year. That would make her birthday in 1985 and the girls 17 years apart and not 16 years apart, but they say her bday is in 1984.

Plus, Lorelai said she was already pregnant on her 16th birthday (Rory's Birthday Parties). If her birthday is in March or April and Rory was born in August.. makes Lorelai 5- 6 months pregnant by the time of Lorelai's birthday. Since her parents didn't know she was pregnant, it's safe to assume she was at least 4-5 months pregnant. That's about the latest she can be without showing she's pregnant. After that, clothes wouldn't be able to hide her growing belly.

Edited by catkok, Jan 2, 2004 @ 4:48 PM.

[Brahmsian]

Catkok, if Rory had been born in August her 16th birthday would have come before she even got into Chilton, and before the first Friday Night Dinner as well. Which would throw the whole premise of Rory's Birthday Parties out with the trash. Ergo, October or November are a lot more likely. Especially since RBP first aired on November 9th, 2000.

Edited by Brahmsian, Jan 2, 2004 @ 5:01 PM.

[catkok]

So if her birthday is in October or November.. then Lorelai would have been 2-3 months pregnant during her 16th birthday. Meaning she got knocked up when she was 15. The girls are 16 years apart and Rory's birthday is in 1984, the year Lorelai turned 16, so Lorelai had to have gotten pregnant when she was 15 and gave birth when she was 16.

[clean]

Rory's birthday is October 8th according to the invitation Tristan showed Rory in RBP

[pathwatch]

No, I don't think Emily or Richard has ever commented on when Lorelai got pregnant, or her obvious sexual activity at such a young age. But it was Lorelai who stated, "You don't get knocked up at 16 without being a fan of boys" (or something like that) in the pilot. I don't recall any other references, but there may have been. You're all probably right, though, that Lorelai was just "not sweating the small stuff" and just making it easier on herself (in regards to talking to Rory about sex) if everything happened (pregancy and birth) at 16. All in all, I think all the characters just ignore it.

And, they have managed to ignore all of Rory's birthdays since her 16th. They seem to make it a point to not mention her age too many times (they do occassionally, but not often). I'm thinking that it's because then they would have to explain why the genius girl is one year older than most people in her grade - she is essentially 16 starting her sophmore year of high school and 19 starting her freshman year of college. I guess ASP doesn't want to go there.

[MarissaAvid]

I was 16 starting sophomore year, and will be 19 when I start college next year.
Connecticut public schools have a cut off day of January 1st for turning 5, before you enter kindergarden. But that's it. (I don't remember what the other end is.)
Granted, there were people in the grade above me who were younger than me, but at the same time a lot of us had "early" birthdays. That doesn't make us "too old" for the grade though.

They mention Rory's (and other character's) age(s) to suit their needs. Last season, in LTGB, Lorelai said that Rory was 17 (and in need of "a Jess"). But, that was two years after season one. She'd be 18 already. And Jess is suddenly still 17 (even though he'd been the same age at the time the year before) when he needed Luke to sign his registration papers. They're kids when they want them kids. A few months later, Jess is suddenly 18 because he's "already raised".

[Gracelessly]

Watching the First Season Holiday episode (the one where Grandpa goes to the hospital) Rory says she buys Michelle a cardio salsa tape, doesn't Rory mock Lorelai for having a cardio salsa tape?

[Gracelessly]

Yeah, I know how to spell Michel's name but silly me I thought (or forgot about him, what are the odds that they would buy him a gift) it was one of her pals from Stars Hollow High. Remember how she had gal pals over for her 16th birthday (at her home) and they were never seen again.

[bigmonster]

On Lorelai's first night with Digger, how long was she up in the morning? I'm assuming she didn't get up early, because she's not a morning person, yet she had time to watch an entire movie (Fast Times At Ridgemont High) and take a luxurious bath while Digger fixed breakfast. What time was it supposed to be? Didn't he at least have to get to work?

[tvmaniac]

In "The Clamor and the Clangor" Rory says that Paris is a "pre-med" major, but I looked on Yale's website, and I don't see a "pre-med" program.

As I understand it, most liberal arts and Ivy League schools don't have majors like "pre-med" or "pre-law." Most (but not all) students who want to get into med school major in biology or chemistry or another "life science".

I was surprised to see that there is now a whole program (and presumably a major) in microbiology alone.

Yes, this stuff bugs me. Especially when a three-minute visit to the Yale website could have pointed out the problem.

[pathwatch]

tvmaniac, this is nitpicking the nitpick, but I went to a liberal arts college (where there was no official "pre-med" or "pre-law" majors), but someone who's major was microbiology or chemistry would call themselves "pre-med" - only because they knew that was the route they were taking.

[ragtop]

Speaking of nitpicking, did anyone notice in the scene where Lorelei & Luke are going into the church to disable the bells, it's snowing and they are covered in snow. As soon as they step in the door, there is not one flake of snow on them?

[Lara]

This is my first post :) but I agree with pathwatch. I'm sure pre-med was used in the context of planning to go to med school (hence Rory's surprise at Paris wanting to do international relations), not a specific major.

btw, a lot of med schools look favorably on applicants with diverse interests outside science. Many are accepted without science majors, provided of course they did the prerequisite courses. And yes, micro can definitely be an undergrad major - it was also offered at my university when I started in 97.

[Hindsight2020]

This is my first post, too, although I've been obsessed with GG for 2 years. I live in southern Connecticut, and am always trying to figure out where the mythical Star's Hollow would be located--if it was a real place. Last night, Lorelai mentioned "neighboring Woodbury" while furniture hunting with Digger. New Haven, Hartford and NYC are fairly close, so I'm thinking they live near Bethleham, CT. Any other guesses? Maybe I'm nuts for watching this show with my atlas open.

[Brahmsian]

Hindsight2020, trying to figure where Stars Hollow actually is only leads to lunacy, since the evidence we've been given really only proves that AS-P and Co. don't know jack about Connecticut geography. I strongly suggest you save your energy for puzzles that actually have logical solutions, which this one doesn't.

[ragtop]

Stars Hollow is obviously Disneyland. It's so clean, so white, with perfect snow, perfect snowmen, perfect autumn, summer and spring. And then there is that psychotic Dosie (?) the ice cream seller who looks like he stepped off a 50's Disney movie set.

[MarissaAvid]

I was talking with a kid from East Hampton, CT this weekend. He said his town is about 9,000 people (making his high school like 400 students), and that he "knows everyone". East Hampton is near Middletown, not too far from either Hartford nor New Haven. It's possible that neighboring towns are also like East Hampton. Durham and Middlefield both sound like similar towns as well.

[bigmonster]

You think any of those are hard??? Try nitpicking Hill Street Blues and figuring out if it was set in Chicago, New York, or L.A.......that's the TVLand mystery of all time....