Quilt Fairy
Sep 30, 2009 @ 1:55 pm
From the Discovery website:
With the help of the latest technology, two brothers have uncovered some of the most powerful results in supernatural research to date — including a recording of Civil War soldiers talking. Meet Brad and Barry Klinge, Texas natives who in 2007 founded Everyday Paranormal, an investigation team that has explored more than 70 locations and set a new standard in supernatural research with some of the world’s most sophisticated equipment housed in a decked-out traveling "ghost lab."
Traveling the country, the 24-foot car hauler can provide 200,000 watts of electricity to power audio-, video- and photo-analysis stations; flat-screen televisions; and an interactive touch-screen smart board. The lab houses surveillance video cameras capable of shooting 300 feet away in total darkness with a 180-degree peripheral view; temperature, humidity and dew point data loggers; various digital cameras, including thermal-imaging cameras; audio recorders; and more than 8,000 feet of video cable. This on-site high-tech lab enables investigators to analyze data on the premises in real time, helping them to more narrowly focus their investigations on known hot spots.
Join the Klinge brothers, along with some of the world's foremost specialists in science measurements, as they devise and test cutting-edge theories during their investigations, in Ghost Lab. The all-new series premieres Tuesday, Oct. 6, at 10 p.m. ET/PT.
I guess, in this world of cookie-cutter shows, that Discovery decided it needed a paranormal show. I'm hoping it's on a par with
Ghost Hunters rather than down in the weeds with
Most Haunted, Paranormal State, and
Ghost Adventures. (Have I got them all?)
The only bit I have seen shows someone saying 'Something just touched me,' so it could go either way.
Anyone else have more information?
MissusDe
Oct 1, 2009 @ 2:52 am
No, this is the first I've heard of this show....of course, I don't watch Discovery much anymore. It sounds promising. As long as they don't freak out over "orbs" and present garbled sound bytes complete with a convenient translation, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. And thank goodness, the show is on Tuesday nights! The few 'must-see' shows I love all seem to end up on Wednesday nights, for some reason.
dogfish
Oct 1, 2009 @ 11:10 am
They will be piggy-backing on the new season of the hugely successful Dirty Jobs. If they have a decent first episode, they might just ensnare some viewers.
Quilt Fairy
Oct 1, 2009 @ 11:52 am
I do think Jason, Grant and Steve would be drooling at the thought of that mobile lab. No more loading and unloading the van at every investigation!
Arynm
Oct 7, 2009 @ 9:59 am
I liked this show. It had some good investigative tools and I liked the main guys. I really want to see more of the footage that got them started on hunting ghosts. Those Union soldiers were really creepy to me. I would like to see the whole tape and some more discussion on it.
I love any investigations at the Plantation.
I will watch again and it is already on my TIVO.
Glass Ocean
Oct 7, 2009 @ 12:30 pm
What was the term The Bros [at least they are real life blood brothers] picked for their time travel set-ups? "Era Cues"? I laugh every time they say it, because I keep trying to figure out what language they're speaking. J'accuse? Not quite.
I've gotta bet they chose Shreveport Auditorium for their first epi just so one of the founders could get on stage with the band and sing rockabilly. Plus add a bad Elvis imitation to the sound of... empty nothingness. No ethereal clapping, guys?
Nice to see that one of the TV teams now has a resident black guy as well as a Hispanic, along with two chicks in short shorts, natch.
I will give them credit for capturing some very clear EVPs, which seems like a rarity to me. They called the high-pitched child's laughter a "VP" [for Voice Phenomenon] -- the first time I've caught that term.
DonitsYum
Oct 7, 2009 @ 12:41 pm
I liked it, especially the way they broke off the investigation to review the evidence on scene and then went back to capture a live person saying what the EVP said, then analyizing the difference between the two. Interesting. The Bros seemed quite lively and very quick to proclaim a place "haunted". Not sure if that's a good thing.
As for "era cues"...I kept thinking they were talking about a person named Eric Hughes. I get what they're doing but the name's confusing. I like it better than provoking the entities with profanity in an attempt to make them angry. The recorded "battle speech" they played for the ghosts seemed to have a big effect.
Now, hopefully if they go someplace foreign they will have someone around who can speak the language because the "speaking English to German ghosts" thing drives me nuts.
OSM Mom
Oct 7, 2009 @ 12:41 pm
I liked this show. It had some good investigative tools and I liked the main guys. I really want to see more of the footage that got them started on hunting ghosts. Those Union soldiers were really creepy to me. I would like to see the whole tape and some more discussion on it.
I love any investigations at the Plantation.
Same here. I thought the EVP's they had were really creepy too. Looking forward to next weeks epi too.
LaraAriadne
Oct 7, 2009 @ 1:21 pm
What was the term The Bros [at least they are real life blood brothers] picked for their time travel set-ups? "Era Cues"? I laugh every time they say it, because I keep trying to figure out what language they're speaking. J'accuse? Not quite.
I too thought they were speaking French or something!
I like the concept though. I hate spirit provoking, it's rude, obnoxious and I believe, largely ineffectual. In my limited personal experience, I find that ghosts react most to when you're acting normally, having a conversation, cleaning the house, etc. They were once normal people and in a lot of cases, they seem to just want to join in.
Last year, a couple of friends were trying to capture EVPs by asking questions. When they excitedly showed me their 'evidence', I didn't hear anything, I really think it was in their head. But after they asked questions, they started talking amongst themselves, joking around, stuff like that, as the recorder was still running, and that's when you started to hear EVPs kind of chiming in (and not saying nice stuff either). Quite creepy.
sacoha
Oct 7, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
I was pleasantly surprised while watching this show, probably because I was expecting the worst. Major pros: a multi-ethnic crew, and the fact that they spend more than one night investigating! The one-night-and-split method used by Ghost Hunters drives me crazy. Also, even though it's too early to tell, I'm hopeful that the focus is going to stay on the hunt and not the dramatic dynamics of the investigators. *fingers crossed*
The brothers were very enthusiastic, but not too much so because they still came across as intelligent and articulate. I'll still have to get my Jason and Grant fix, though.
I have no idea exactly what an electronic net is (I know it was explained and will pay closer attention on second viewing) but it looks and sounds impressive as hell.
Quilt Fairy
Oct 8, 2009 @ 5:03 pm
I thought the show was a total waste of time, and I won't bother to watch again. Regardless of the high tech equipment and so-called scientific approach, they obviously go into a location assuming it's haunted and looking to find evidence of that. There doesn't seem to be any attempt at de-bunking as you would find on Ghost Hunters. For example, if you're told that a door opens and closes by itself, how about - I don't know - maybe focusing a camera on the door for the evening? No instead we get them running around in a frenzy asking everyone on the team whether the door was open or closed last time they saw it.
I had seen reference on the promos to the 'sighting' at Gettysburg that got these 2 guys (I know the last name is Klinge, don't remember the first names, and I can't even tell them apart) interested in the paranormal, and was interested in seeing the video. So we see a group of Civil Wars soldiers in the distance and then they suddently disappear! But - surprise! surprise! - he just happens to have moved the camera off them to refocus right when that happens. And it sounds as if he didn't see them actually disappear himself, as he says 'They couldn't have gone into the trees, they were too far away.' Since they weren't into ghost hunting at the time, I suppose it would have been too much to expect them to find someone to ask if there were any re-enactments taking place that day.
I got awfully sick of 'era cues', too, although I kept hearing it as 'Eric who?' I've heard of it before, so I don't think it's his original idea, although I think it was called something else. Maybe he's copyrighted 'era cues'? In any event, it certainly wasn't necessary to have a live band there to perform, although it did get him a chance to ham it up on TV.
The EVP's were unusual, but since we didn't get any background on them (ala Steve and Tango reviewing all the footage), I simply don't trust them. Also, they were pretty damn clear.
So this week included the Myrtles Plantation, and next week is Tombstone. Maybe they're doing a Ghost Hunters memorial tour? In my view, Ghost Hunters remains the gold standard.
Finally, a note to the Discovery Channel: Maybe 'mofo' isn't a bleepable word in your opinion, but personally I find it objectionable that you let it on the air.
lola212005
Oct 9, 2009 @ 3:29 am
Creepy experience with this show: I watched the episode where they visited the plantation. I've never heard of that plantation ever in my life. It was the part where they were in one of the bedrooms, and one of the guys was standing in front of a mirror. I just blurted out to my bf "That mirror is haunted!" He looked at me like I was nuts and asked why I said that. All I could say was "The mirror in that room is haunted." So yesterday, I decided to look up the plantation and it's paranormal sightings. Well, I read that there have been instances at the plantation where people have seen images in the mirror of children and sometimes unexplained sightings in the mirror. The hair on the back of my neck stood up. I told my bf what I found online and he found it creepy too.
SiameseCatLady
Oct 11, 2009 @ 11:54 am
In my view, Ghost Hunters remains the gold standard.
True, but GL did a couple of things I wish GH would - investigating more than 1 night and having the devices to log changes in temp, EMF,etc. set up down hallways, etc. I give much more credence to that kind of log, monitoring climate and electromagnetic changes than I do to the K2 meter blinking its "responses" to questions. Not sure about the Era Cues or those amazingly clear and understandable unenhanced EMFs they got. I do have to call shenanigans on the Gettysburg "ghost" video. Looks to me like a buncha re-enactors.
Accord64
Oct 12, 2009 @ 8:46 am
I caught this show over the weekend. They have a very nice rig and impressive equipment that put's the GH team to shame. They started out having what I thought was a better approach to investigating paranormal activity. It seemed scientific and evidence based, but then it all took a bad turn when 'parallel universes' came up out of left field. Yikes!
At that point I shut off the show and went back to my chores. Just another team of nut-jobs with hi-tech gadgets chasing ghosts with wild preconceived theory's that they're not so subtly pushing.
Quilt Fairy
Oct 14, 2009 @ 11:07 am
Just another team of nut-jobs with hi-tech gadgets chasing ghosts with wild preconceived theory's that they're not so subtly pushing.
Exactly. I simply cannot take these guys seriously. All their 'evidence' proves what they want it to prove. While they certainly seemed to have gotten some EVPs, I couldn't understand them at all, yet they are instantly saying the words and 'boy, that's a class a'. The 'choose' might have been close, but how they got 'right quick' out of the second one is beyond me. Some of that is that we're not hearing it first hand as they are, but it still seems a little - enthusiastic.
And their shadow figure in the graveyard sure looked like it was casting it's own shadow to me.
MissusDe
Oct 14, 2009 @ 6:50 pm
I finally saw part of this show yesterday, and didn't much care for it. I just can't get into a show where one of the investigators announces that they "got a buttload of evidence."
And the whole "era cues" thing? Or as they pronounced it "arracuze" .... Barry did that on an investigation for GHI and I don't see where it's valid, otherwise there'd be no sighting unless period music was playing all the time. Personally, I figured it was an excuse for the one guy to get up and fulfill his Elvis fantasies.
iwannaiguana
Oct 14, 2009 @ 7:08 pm
The jury is still out on this one for me. On the one hand, they have some pretty cool equipment and they do seem sincere. On the other hand, it seems like they're more interested in proving claims rather than disproving, which always make me a bit suspect. And their evidence is a little too good - the egos last week were crystal clear, as was that shadow figure in the photo from last night. But I'm a paranorml geek, so I'll watch for a while longer.
HD Dee Dee
Oct 15, 2009 @ 9:18 pm
Finally caught an episode of this show. The Tombstone one. At first, I was prepared to be impressed with them. I like that they spend more than one night in a location and really seem to do a complete investigation. They also bring enough equipment that they can really cover the place.
However, to me and my Tivo, it was pretty obvious that the "shadow person" in the cemetery was really just the shadow of the trunk of the tree in the middle of the picture. I can't believe they couldn't see that. So, to me, they don't seem interested at all in debunking or even being even-handed so I think this show just lost a big part of the possible appeal it might have had for me.
OTOH, I will say I like the production values on the show better than on Skiffy's GH. I noticed a lack of bonky music and crap that almost ruins GH.
Terran
Nov 2, 2009 @ 3:46 pm
I admit to ODing on Ghost-reality shows. I don't trust most of them. GHOST HUNTERS set the standard, then proved unreliable with easy-to-fake "evidence" and Jason's first season reluctance to label a place haunted to the present-day lack of true debunking so everything is haunted.
I find GH International edition more reliable. Some famous haunted locations they still manage to debunk, so their hearts seem to be in the right place, which means their fingers aren't always counting the dollars in the billfold.
However, in comparing GH with GHOST LAB, GH spends two nights at each location, though it is presented as one night for the viewing audience. That seems to have been an editorial decision made in season one.
When it comes to the Myrtles Plantation, GH investigated and found the backing of the "haunted" mirror absorbs and presents images that are also prone to matrexing. This was a de-bunked mirror though GH found Myrtles in itself to be haunted.
What I find to be the biggest difference - and it's a biggie! - between G H and G L approaches is GHOST LAB not only wants high EMF readings but will encourage them, saying that increases the likelihood of paranormal activity. GHOST HUNTERS always searches for high EMF and decides that's a negating factor, that high EMF causes hallucinations, feelings of paranoia and depression, that a person who is sensitive can think they are having a paranormal experience when they aren't. That is a pretty big difference between the two approaches, that LAB wants high EMF and think it's more a gateway to the paranormal. Whereas HUNTERS thinks high EMF causes symptoms that are mistaken for paranormal activity. I can't get around the difference. I think HUNTERS is on the right track and LAB is looking to produce a lot of shit.
However, I totally agree Jason and Grant's jaws must be dropping over that LAB truck. Instead of buying an inn and snowmobiles with their loot from HUNTERS they should have invested in better equipment so they were completely hi-tech.
The reason LAB doesn't go around effectively debunking is, for one, it doesn't interest them and also their own approach doesn't seem to allow for it. LAB stresses real time (ambulance-chaser) evidence gathering as opposed to HUNTERS examining the data they've collected afterwards. I find the latter approach to be more reliable there too.
INVESTIGATIONS I don't even watch anymore.
MagicalReign
Nov 5, 2009 @ 9:54 pm
What I find to be the biggest difference - and it's a biggie! - between G H and G L approaches is GHOST LAB not only wants high EMF readings but will encourage them, saying that increases the likelihood of paranormal activity. GHOST HUNTERS always searches for high EMF and decides that's a negating factor, that high EMF causes hallucinations, feelings of paranoia and depression, that a person who is sensitive can think they are having a paranormal experience when they aren't. That is a pretty big difference between the two approaches, that LAB wants high EMF and think it's more a gateway to the paranormal. Whereas HUNTERS thinks high EMF causes symptoms that are mistaken for paranormal activity. I can't get around the difference. I think HUNTERS is on the right track and LAB is looking to produce a lot of shit.
I agree with you to some extent. GH does look for other sources of high EMF, such as powerlines, clocks, fuse boxes etc, to try to explain (or debunk) why some of the experiences people have had at that location may be false. However, if they get a high EMF reading and there is no 'natural' cause for it (such as powerlines, clocks, fuse boxes etc.) then they too will say that it may be caused by a paranormal reason. It is a theory in paranormal research that ghosts cause high EMFs and this is why you see them with the EMF meters and KII meters. Yes, they will look to see if there is something else causing the spikes to occur but they certainly don't decide all high EMFs are a negating factor. Their stupid KII meter is prime example of this.
Ghost Lab is going on the basis that ghosts need some kind of energy to manifest, speak or move things (which is a basic concept in ghost hunting and why people talk about having their batteries drained out of cameras and voice recorders). GL theory, as far as I can tell, is that running water is a source of energy (which is another basic theory in ghost hunting) for ghosts. GL also supposedly does baseline readings for every place they go to, casting their 'electronic net' over the place. This is them basically finding out what the average EMF readings are for an area so that when they are 'hunting' they can compare it to the standard to see if it is an out of the ordinary spike. I actually like the way GL does the baseline readings for EMFs for a place rather than just walking around waving a EMF detector and KII meter around until they get a spike then trying to see if there is a reason for it.
However, I didn't like how in this last episode they said that there was energy coming off the river and being bounced up over the levy and hitting the house only on the third floor. That really bothered me for many reasons Im not going to get into right now. I also don't like the way these guys present themselves as 'scientific' when there are many flaws in their 'science'. Just how they collected the water to measure water conductivity from the river was majorly flawed. It had my stomach in knots with anger. lol.
So basically, I think both GH and GL are majorly flawed in their methods and GH is certainly not innocent from calling a high EMF paranormal. But I believe both groups are looking for EMF spikes that are out of the norm for the location they are at.
Forn
Nov 7, 2009 @ 10:25 am
I agree I like the fact that they stay in the location for more than one night. That kind of drives me nuts about shows like Ghost Hunters and Destination Truth. And it appears they have a lot of cool gadgets.
The thing that kind of bugs me about the show is the hosts. Something about them seems kind of, I don't know, uncouth, or brutishly loutish or something. "Buttload of evidence", for example. Like they never quite learned how to act in a civilized manner. Not sure how else to describe it.
Someone said the shadow person at Tombstone looked like a tree shadow. Maybe that's true, but the impression I got when I first saw it was that it looked like a cardboard cutout.
I don't want to accuse them of faking evidence, but in the last show I really thought the one brother was faking when he saw a girl in the barroom. He seemed slightly annoyed when his brother heard someone say "mom" right next to him (like he was grabbing the spotlight), and then it seemed like bad acting when he said something like "Hey, who's that?".
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