SanLynn
Sep 22, 2009 @ 11:45 pm
Okay so I looked through 5 pages in this section and did a search and couldn't find this topic anywhere so I really hope I'm not duplicating anything.
I watched the premiere tonight and I have to say I liked the original cast in the trailer for this show much better. I don't think ABC did itself any favors by re-casting with Christian Slater.
I'm willing to chalk up the uneven pilot to the late casting changes and re-shoots but if it doesn't improve in the next couple of episodes I don't see this lasting.
It's unfortunate because I think the volunteer crime solving group is a unique approach to a procedural drama. It could be really good but it's just not there.
jbreckenridge
Sep 23, 2009 @ 12:29 am
I liked the "narration by the victim" concept. It made the show distinct.
raligh
Sep 23, 2009 @ 12:39 am
Did the original pilot air? Because I swear I have seen bits of this episode before.
The scene where they figure out the numbers are from a cell phone, call it, and realize the witness lied to them. Struck a HUGE chord of deja vu.
Fate3
Sep 23, 2009 @ 1:38 am
I liked it. It wasn't perfect and it had some plot problems, but then a lot of pilots do. I enjoyed the characters and liked the idea of them trying to find the identities of unknown victims when everyone else is forced to give up. It was touching to me.
I liked the "narration by the victim" concept. It made the show distinct.
Yea, I didn't get what that was at first. I kept expecting someone to find her diary or something, LOL! But when I realized that's what they were doing, and the fact that the whole "visions" of her was just the team identifying with her, I liked it. It can be their "thing," and actually a good one. Hearing what happened to the person at the end of their life, from their POV...it made them more real, and kind of gave the viewer closure too.
Was it perfect? No. But it was good enough for me to come back for more next week.
crimsongrl
Sep 23, 2009 @ 5:38 am
The show was okay and I didn’t mind the victim narration, but I didn’t care for the artsy guy’s attitude. If he had to work off his hours as a big brother or in a hospital I would have understood him better. Instead, every time he was on screen I thought, “Dude, you could help solve a murder! Stop being a brat!” Ugh.
I hope Michelle Borth (dark hair) won’t be as annoying as she was on Tell Me You Love Me. Her voice isn’t helping though.
Was this show originally for CBS? It had a CBS feel to it that seemed strange on ABC.
What actor did Christian Slater replace?
redshirtx
Sep 23, 2009 @ 7:32 am
I kind of liked the pilot, but I spent most of it thinking "This is Cold Case's younger emo cousin..." and waiting for someone to smack down Walter the true-crime freak (though I suppose they didn't need to--he did it himself more than once).
bahamarita
Sep 23, 2009 @ 7:46 am
the forgotten? forgettable.
It was ok, but I agree, it's 'Cold Case'-lite. And I much prefer 'Cold Case'.
Walter bugged. A cop-wannabe...and a dope.
The not-Lindsay girl...can't remember her name...so annoying, too. Know it all. And I was totally distracted by her teeth, which looked like bad veneers or something.
The community service guy had all that equipment ready to go, to make the bust of the victim? HUH? Do all sculptors have that stuff lying around and the talent and ability to take a partial face and make it into something recognizable??? No training at all but he managed to nail perfectly what that Vivian/Tracy looked like exactly?? Yeah...ain't buying it.
Can't say I'll watch again.
dagny
Sep 23, 2009 @ 8:30 am
The show was okay and I didn’t mind the victim narration, but I didn’t care for the artsy guy’s attitude. If he had to work off his hours as a big brother or in a hospital I would have understood him better. Instead, every time he was on screen I thought, “Dude, you could help solve a murder! Stop being a brat!” Ugh.
Wow, the punk & the CBS feel had me going to bed early. It felt like they had to put everybody's backstory up front.
The arty guy went to med school. Hmm. I wonder if that is doing to help the team in the future.
KateL
Sep 23, 2009 @ 8:32 am
What actor did Christian Slater replace?
The British actor Rupert Penry-Jones (MI5/Spooks, Persuasion, Whitechapel).
GenieinTX
Sep 23, 2009 @ 9:03 am
I didn't hate it. There were definetly some problems, but I think they could be worked out. I'll give it another shot as long as they fix community service guy's attitude. I get that he's supposed to be asking the questions the audience would ask, but that was just bordering on ridiculous. And he went to med school and is a scupltor? How convienient.
linkster007
Sep 23, 2009 @ 9:34 am
I didn't hate it. There were definetly some problems, but I think they could be worked out. I'll give it another shot as long as they fix community service guy's attitude. I get that he's supposed to be asking the questions the audience would ask, but that was just bordering on ridiculous. And he went to med school and is a scupltor? How convienient.
Agreed. The med school/sculptor guy was annoying, but not nearly as annoying as the dark haired woman. It has potential, however, if it stays as it was last night, I won't watch very long. Did it bother anyone else that the told a woman of the death of a loved one on the street in front of a school? That bothered me a lot.
janet a
Sep 23, 2009 @ 9:56 am
Saw one ad for this and remembered to watch it pretty much by accident; I can suspend my disbelief as well as the next guy, but this one isn't going to fly. The melodrama and phenomenal overacting aside, I just can't help comparing it to its real-life counterpart (http://www.doenetwork.org/) and saying "Uh, no."
Can't see myself watching it again.....
RFuller42
Sep 23, 2009 @ 10:15 am
I didn't like the way it started off but it did get better throughout the episode. I can't figure out what value the telephone repair guy brings to the group - he's annoyingly useless. And being from Chicago, some of the logistics of the case didn't work right, which always bothers me (Hwy. 88, where they supposedly found the victim's body lying next to, is nowhere near the city, so what was with the tall building?). And how was it winter in Chicago (snow flakes falling) but summer/fall in Dubuque, Iowa (where the trees still had full leaves)?
I'm not into these procedural shows at all, but I do like Christian Slater and want him to find something that works for him. So part of me hopes this finds its groove. The other part of me isn't as impressed as it should be.
marycriv1961
Sep 23, 2009 @ 11:20 am
stupid, stupid, stupid.... acting...story-line....concept. I live in Chicago as well and the fact they didn't get the seasons correct really bugged. Will not be watching again.
Wacoshade
Sep 23, 2009 @ 11:43 am
Wow this show was terrible. I could not believe how bored I was. That's 20 minutes of my life I won't get back. buh bye show
Writing Wrongs
Sep 23, 2009 @ 3:02 pm
Christian Slater sucks. I would've watched if they had kept Rupert in the part.
KateL
Sep 23, 2009 @ 3:47 pm
Christian Slater sucks. I would've watched if they had kept Rupert in the part.
Yup. Me too. Rupert would have been much more interesting to watch.
Myrrhine
Sep 23, 2009 @ 8:15 pm
I have a soft spot for CS, but I think I would have liked Rupert better.
I will watch at least a few more times. I found the process of identifying the victim interesting, but the solution to the murder totally dumb.
I also liked the part where they all "got the call" to come work on the case. I kind of liked the everyday hero aspect of the team. I found the sculptor totally uninteresting though.
I also liked the Chicago setting, although they were like "here is a view of downtown from Evanston" and showed the perspective from the south side.
kinicke
Sep 23, 2009 @ 8:58 pm
Not a great idea to name a show something the critics can use to pan it...
It really was a forgettable show. The actors/characters took themselves way too seriously. The victim's voiceovers were cheesy and over the top. Have to admit, I'm not big on mystery of the week shows anyway.
I don't think I'll be tuning in again.
tvweb44
Sep 23, 2009 @ 9:01 pm
I was out after 10 minutes. The earnest...... melodramatic .......... overacting......... was just too much. I like criminal procedural dramas with a twist of irony and a sense of humor. And give me some interesting characters to get into. Something on the level of L&O Original Recipe, CSI Original Recipe, Homicide: LOTS. Buh-bye.
FilmBuff90
Sep 23, 2009 @ 10:41 pm
Can't do it. 28 minutes in (Tivo) and it's too bland for me. A shame, since I liked seeing Benito Martinez again. But even he had more to do and was much more interesting on "The Shield." Come on, show. You've got actors here with noteworthy faces. Give them something to do! But I won't watch again.
Lady Snarkbite
Sep 23, 2009 @ 11:57 pm
This was like the red-headed step child of Cold Case, Law & Order, The Mentalist, CSI and every other procedural you can throw at it. It hasn't found it's place yet and at this rate, I don't think it will. It's trying a little too hard to be like everyone else. Just find your own little niche and stick with it.
biakbiak
Sep 24, 2009 @ 1:07 am
This is like Lukewarm Case, they stated at the beginning that it had only been a few weeks since her body was found that they handed over the IDing to this civilian group, that is some half-assed police work if you ask me.
North of Eden
Sep 24, 2009 @ 11:49 am
Watched the tape last night.
Not feeling it.
You are right poster above can we start calling this show LUKE WARM CASE?
Because it was a COLD CASE knockoff with a not as good cast.
And what does it say about tv that still in the 21st century the overweight characters is still considered the comic relief?
BraeJayQ
Sep 24, 2009 @ 2:27 pm
Would, just once, someone ask for a lawyer?
Teague
Sep 25, 2009 @ 1:08 pm
Why the recasting, btw? Why Christian Slater (of all people) over Rupert Penry-Jones? (Maybe he was deemed too much like the Mentalist?)
Anyway, yeah...this is a completely average show so far. All of the drawbacks of crime procedurals (the perp confesses just because she was arrested...give me a break) and nothing new to bring to the table, really.
The phone company guy really bugged me--I thought he was going to be something of a savant in terms of detail at the beginning, what with the "that bruise tells me ten things about you that maybe you don't want me to know." That's sort of cool, and workable. But no, he's just a doof. How disappointing.
I don't think the victim VO will wear well over time, but then again, I don't think this show has the legs to test that.
GracieM
Sep 25, 2009 @ 4:29 pm
So there were two new shows in this time slot to choose from - I saw a lot of promos for The Good Wife, but never even heard of the Forgotten. Nonetheless, the premise sounded intriguing, so I recorded both shows.
I'm going with The Good Wife because it was interesting, the Forgotten was not. And I don't care if the title design has it all lowercase, my inner proofreader refuses to do that. It kind of reminded me of The Lovely Bones, with all the "This is how I died" narration; still, I barely remember the ep a few days later.
Sorry, Bruckheimer, better luck next time. It's not like you're suffering from a lack of success anyway.
Cgr
Sep 25, 2009 @ 9:15 pm
I think it's better than that nurse show. That was pretty bad IMO. I will give this some time and see what happens.
gilaymar
Sep 27, 2009 @ 10:09 am
Deleting from Tivo Season Pass Manager....... I love Christian Slater, but not that much.
Good Queen Jane
Sep 30, 2009 @ 9:55 am
Bumping from page 4, which is a really bad sign. I want to like this show, but the storylines so far are really awful. I kind of expected it to be more like Mission: Impossible with the Christian Slater character picking out members of the network with special skills each week. And I really don't like the ending scene with the forgotten network folks being lauded as "our heroes." I'll give it one more chance before moving on to The Good Wife.
GenieinTX
Sep 30, 2009 @ 9:58 am
I can suspend a lot of belief to watch a tv show, but I can't suspend belief that the cops would have missed a huge engagement ring on or around the body. I can't suspend belief that the cops wouldn't have pulled the security camera footage. I can see passing off the facial reconstruction to volunteers in the private sector, but the rest of it - no. Too ridiculous. And they identified her. That should be the end of their story. They give her identity to the cops and that's it. Volunteer civilians shouldn't be interviewing witnesses and solving the crime. I get they are trying to make the show, but it's just too much to suspend.
Poor Christian Slater. He's so awesome and deserves a hit series. I think he's choosing badly.
MichaelFi
Sep 30, 2009 @ 12:02 pm
The Forgotten has become the first show to get beaten by the Jay Leno Show in the demo since the season officially started on September 21st:
Week two of 10 p.m. ABC drama The Forgotten took a hit, however, with 7.72 million viewers (#2) and a third-place 2.0/ 5 among adults 18-49. Compared to it’s week-ago debut (Viewers: 9.54 million; A18-49: 2.6/ 7 on Sept. 22), that was a loss of 1.82 million viewers and 23 percent in the demo.
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6...451/m/350105442
OneLastRefrain
Sep 30, 2009 @ 12:07 pm
Aww ... I actually like it.
Solea
Oct 1, 2009 @ 2:08 pm
I fell asleep half way through. The acting was so bad and stilted and the whole thing suffered from a severe case of pilot-itis. The only reason I watched is because I still mourn My Own Worst Enemy and the residual loyalty led me to tune in.
However, I'll give it one or two more episodes to show me it's more than just another *yawn* procedural.
kitty32
Oct 3, 2009 @ 11:57 am
Because it was a COLD CASE knockoff with a not as good cast.
I thought it was a BONES knockoff with not as good science. I was okay as a Friday night alternative (I'm in on Good Wife) but certainly not memorable or Must See. I like Christian Slater but I could see the plot unfolding three moves away. It's like several shows all smashed together with all the good stuff from them removed. I may watch if it's on Friday but not otherwise.
photoshopgirl
Oct 5, 2009 @ 11:33 am
The only reason I watched is because I still mourn My Own Worst Enemy and the residual loyalty led me to tune in.
Me too! I love him and didn't get why MOWE wasn't more of a hit. I wish he'd get it right. The recast on this show killed it I think.
Sissy BP
Oct 7, 2009 @ 8:15 am
The only reason I watched is because I still mourn My Own Worst Enemy and the residual loyalty led me to tune in.
This is why I'm watching as well. I love Christian Slater and I loved MOWE. I'm still mad NBC cancelled it. the forgotten is not must see TV to me, but it's not absolutely horrible either.
Jill
Oct 7, 2009 @ 8:30 am
I wanted to like this show but honestly, too many things are just not right. A high school football championship on Oct 10? No way. PLus, that would have made it December and they were walking around Chicago in lightweight or no jackets? And seriously, no one noticed a guy missing for TWO months that worked and was deeply involved in the high school?
GoAggies89
Oct 7, 2009 @ 8:42 am
And seriously, no one noticed a guy missing for TWO months that worked and was deeply involved in the high school?
That's what I just couldn't get past. And who has been paying the rent on his apartment? Even if he had auto-deduction from his bank account, would the school district continue to pay him after he didn't show for two months?
I love the voice overs in the show. Giving a personality to the victim of the week adds a nice touch IMO (I'm a big dork - I get teary eyed at the end when the victim says his/her name), but so many of the procedural things drive me crazy.
"53 guys on every team." OK, clearly you can eliminate some positions. Based on his size alone, the guy clearly wasn't a receiver, or a quarterback, or a defensive back. That should have narrowed it down some.
If he worked in a school, then he should have been fingerprinted at some point.
No possible way that high school kid testifies against his uncle. No way. No matter how much loyalty he felt to the coach (and I believe it was a lot), there's no way he turns on the only adult in his life. Just didn't buy it.
I do love the idea of the show . . . it's just the execution of it that drives me nuts. YMMV.
rebl rn
Oct 7, 2009 @ 12:28 pm
And seriously, no one noticed a guy missing for TWO months that worked and was deeply involved in the high school?
I couldn't figure that out either. I liked the whole "anonymous NFL player" bit - my mom used to work for an anonymous MLB player. But this beloved coach wasn't missed? I totally don't get it.
Solea
Oct 7, 2009 @ 4:13 pm
Do I understand the premise of this show correctly? The Chicago PD sanctions amateurs to investigate crimes and question witnesses?
Does this really happen? Because of all the preposterous things on TV over which I'm willing to suspend my disbelief, that is one that I just cannot buy.
Renard
Oct 7, 2009 @ 8:28 pm
Do I understand the premise of this show correctly? The Chicago PD sanctions amateurs to investigate crimes and question witnesses?
I could be wrong but I think "the forgotten network" is supposed to be a national group/organization and we are just seeing the group/chapter based in Chicago or part of them. I think the hearing-impaired woman who helped them read the lips on the video was from elsewhere. It seems like they are supposed to deal with cases after they fall from active status but long before they would be picked up by a cold case squad.
I'm a little rusty on my police procedure and rules of evidence but I didn't really understand the big deal about the guy going into the VICTIM'S apartment. I could understand it being a problem if it was the apartment of a potential suspect.
biakbiak
Oct 7, 2009 @ 8:54 pm
See the thing that is stupid about this show is that there are actual groups of amateur detectives who do try and solve missing person cases/cold cases,
The Doe Network being a fairly well known example but the thing is these people do cold cases where the police are literally have run out of leads and stuff and are usually doing their sleuthing on their computer not out investigating. But seriously they hadn't even buried the first girl, it's just ridiculous. I am assuming JB didn't want it to seem to close to Cold Case and also couldn't really find another way to make sitting on the internet alone into an interesting narrative.
TheLabRat
Oct 8, 2009 @ 2:27 am
Even with all the plot problems, I get really wrapped up in the victims' plight in this show. The coach particularly touched me for no reason I can discern. But when the kid got the championship ring, I cried a little.
syve
Oct 9, 2009 @ 3:55 pm
TheLabRat, I felt the same way this week.
I think this show is implausible, and the main characters aren't that interesting, but the victim's story got to me this week, and I actually cared about him, and the kid.
This hadn't happened before, I never really connected to the other victims, or felt that they were anything other then placeholders for 'victim', but this one got to me, so I'm hoping that means that there is a good show lurking in there, and that the writing might get better.
One question, though it wasn't mentioned this week, one of the characters keeps saying she was married to some guy, I can't remember his name. Are we meant to know who this is, or is it meant to be mysterious. I can't tell, and it's really irritating either way.
svimouse
Oct 10, 2009 @ 8:54 am
I think this show is implausible, and the main characters aren't that interesting, but the victim's story got to me this week, and I actually cared about him, and the kid.
I think you and
TheLabRat have hit one of the major problems on the head,
syve; the stories in the past have not been particularly compelling. I didn't much care about the previous victims so I felt nothing when they went from Doe's to people with names. This makes it incredibly hard to overlook the show's weak points. I definitely had sympathy for the victim this week and real interest in his story and actually did not cringe so much at the voiceovers and some of the inconsistencies.
Unfortunately, I think I still need to drop the show; the cheesiness has migrated to the rest of the dialogue (which was not terrific to begin with). That combined with the constant inappropriate smiling of one particular cast member would just take me right out of the story at times. "You're like a Power Ranger," killed it for me completely.
CassandraRedux
Oct 11, 2009 @ 6:32 pm
Enjoyed seeing Cutty from The Wire in the football one; bummed that he did it.
This show seems destined to be canceled soon--hope we find out what Lindsey's husband did and maybe get some action between her and the Christian Slater character before it goes.
SanDiego
Oct 12, 2009 @ 7:47 am
Love the show's premise but it needs to be completely re-cast.
izabella
Oct 14, 2009 @ 12:10 am
I'm a Christian Slater fan, so I like seeing him regularly on tv. And the football guy's story, as well as tonight's student drew me in. I'm not sure I understand why the girl would be dating a guy 10 years older than her, since they stressed so much that she didn't feel like she fit in and wanted to go home to Taiwan. Maybe he made her feel like someone cared?
I think the show is better when you care about the victims, but it does make for some sad stories.
I don't know how I feel about all the other people besides Christian Slater. The woman with the long dark hair who works for the insurance company but is always slacking off and sneaking out of work...she bugs me. Maybe it bugs me because I'm imagining all those people who are wishing the insurance company would process their claims already and keep having to wait while she slacks off.
Casual Viewing
Oct 14, 2009 @ 2:27 am
Interesting concept but badly executed. Also for some reason Slater just doesn't strike the right tone for me. I just don't find him believable or interesting, just annoying. Lindsay Drake & Tyler Davies are the only two characters I'm slightly interested in.
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