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Chloe asks Clark to kill Davis; Tess assembles a team of meteor freaks to search for Davis.
CantThinkUpName
We need Dr. Emil next season. We need him lots. He rocks. And he works with John Jones.

Am I the only one who loves that neither Tess nor Clark seems to care about what each other knows about his powers? Clark will never admit it but has given up any pretense of hiding it.

Wait, wait, wait. Eva Greer was a shapeshifter? That is too coincidental. Does anyone remember if Tina had a sister?

I cannot tell if Ollie's supposed to be charming or a dick. However, I really need to add Toliver does what I consider to be banter (maybe a bit slower paced than I would have liked but they had a back and forth, which is prime for banter). Clois has never had a conversation like that.

Tess- still like how creepy she is with her hero worship. Her entire conversation at the end seems like something that I can analyze.

There were a lot of flight metaphors relating to Oliver tonight, particularly during naked time. Did anyone else think of Lois and her flying man destiny? Especially this close to the finale.

Did Oliver's explanation of "a secret rehabilitation facility where there's no possibility to escape" creep anyone else out?

I also thought the first Cloliver scene with kind of Clexy.

Difference for Oliver: Davis cannot go to prison. Lex could.

I'm actually impressed that that episode seemed like part of a larger whole and not just its own story with a couple of little bits carried over. It seemed like a real show!

Whose voice came from the Gay Disco Ball?

They just kind of dropped the "Where's Chloe" storyline didn't they?
The Spook
So it had nothing to do with delusional loyalty to Clark, eh? Zodess much? Mwaha.

Anyway, I liked more of Dr. Hamilton (especially when he gave Clark that nice car), but overall this episode was blah.
Salvadorangirl
We need more Emil. That man fucking rocks.

Nothing much to add other than I love how Chloe activiated Clark's superhearing.
Durq
Tom's first directorial decision: dress himself in fabulous outfits for the entire episode! Rrwworrrr!

Plastique still can't enunciate.
xjager513
I haven't decided yet if I think this is a good episode or not.

A couple of things though - Tess knows Clark's secret, okay I get that. But what was that at the end. Was that Zod or something getting inside of her.

I didn't really care much for Oliver, he was sneaky and all, but I prefer light and moral Oliver.

The Chlark scene were okay. Clark was very overprotective, its almost like she is his Lois. I like that part when she touches his hands, and he looks confused, unsure. So much there, I hope they don't let it go to waste.

I like that Clark had a plan for dealing with David/Doomsday, and I like that he acknowledged that sending Davis to the PZ was a bad idea.

I think Clark was more Superman in this episode, than he has been before. They should focus more on him.
jediknight
The savior of Kandor? Maybe this is orchestrated by the one who shrunk Kandor to being with. Please let it be the return of James Marsters in the season finale. It would make perfect sense for him to still be pulling the strings.

I loved the shoutout to James Marshall and Greg Beeman.

This episode does prove that Chloe's plan was stupid. Chloe is with Doomsday, and he still kills someone. Although I'm hoping they don't go with the separation of Davis and Doomsday. The characters have to realize that Davis is just the disguise, Doomsday is his true self. Don't let the Black Kryptonite thing lead to them getting separated and Doomsday being stopped but "Davis" being saved.
missbonnie
What the heck is Kandor? Thats aside, I loved it. Best episode we've had in a long time.
The Spook
Nothing much to add other than I love how Chloe activiated Clark's superhearing


As did I.

Okay I got a beef. Is Jor-El trying to force his son to battle, or is that Zod speaking from the crystal? If its the former, then Jor-El has not lost his dickishness. If its Zod, then WHY THE HELL would the Fortress have an artifact like that? Or did Tess get this from a third party?

I do hope that Emil is the guy who they said would be a major player next season, but watch them not do that. I'd be very annoyed.

This episode does prove that Chloe's plan was stupid. Chloe is with Doomsday, and he still kills someone. Although I'm hoping they don't go with the separation of Davis and Doomsday. The characters have to realize that Davis is just the disguise, Doomsday is his true self. Don't let the Black Kryptonite thing lead to them getting separated and Doomsday being stopped but "Davis" being saved.


We already know from Stilletto that if anyone threatens Chloe or Doomsday, her effect does not continue to hold. Thats why they're trying to go in hiding.
RemDiamond
I take it that the whole "savior of kandor" is the setup that Zod and Tess will be a team. Loved that Clark can pick up Chloe's voicej, but it was disconcerting that he did not realize it wasn't Chloe. I guess that Chloe must be far enough away in distance that he is unable to hear her.

I really like the Clark and Ollie conversation especially at the end. Emil is a great addition. They need to bring him back next season.
EllyF
The line about fate being a term used by people who don't know who they are struck me as very Chloisy for some reason.

Loved what little Chlark we got-- Clark hearing Chloe from a distance, his pathetic little "Chloe?" when she died. I'm not thrilled that Clark isn't following up on his promise to search for her, though.

I'm impressed by the twist at the end. Tess is working for Zod (at first I thought it was Jor-El, but I'm pretty sure it's Zod). I thought she was just a crazy obsessed Clark worshipper, but instead she's a crazy obsessed Zod worshipper. Awesome.

I'm surprised Livewire could die. Isn't she MYTHOS? I liked the shapeshifter, and the interesting callback to Tina Greer. Emil is awesome; I wondered if he got the car from Bruce Wayne. I guess it was a Ferrari or something, but it immediately made me think Batmobile.

Pretty good episode, but I think I'm looking forward to the finale at this point too much to enjoy anything that gets in my way.
wwg23
This episode does prove that Chloe's plan was stupid. Chloe is with Doomsday, and he still kills someone.

They may have found a body from before Chloe stayed with Davis.
Tom's first directorial decision: dress himself in fabulous outfits for the entire episode! Rrwworrrr!

Word!
xjager513
Okay I just checked, Kandor is the name of the former capital city of the planet Krypton. But what I want to know is who that was. Was that Jor-El or Zod. And why was the necessary?
realchloerocks
This episode was okay. Not enough fake!Chloe for me though.
Salvadorangirl
Loved what little Chlark we got


That scene in the Kent house was like whoa. I swear the intimacy when she grabbed his hand and leaned close to his face made me stop my breathe because I thought for a split second "OMG. She's gonna kiss him."
SaveLevi
I didn't like the Chlark opening scenes but for the fact that Chloe's voice from so far activated Clark's superhearing. I felt like they were going for implied rape-y stuff with Chloe and Davis and it was just sort of weird. Was that just me?

Oliver is SO being controlled by Lex.

Another shout out to the "Fever" letter!! Cool.

Umm...so Clark, you want to think about handing in that resignation?
xjager513
I don't know it appears that they were trying to attack David and Chloe, we don't know if Chloe got trapped in the cross fire and that's why Doomsday came out, so we can't say for sure.

I like the Clark hearing too. But I find some things don't make sense. Like Livewire dying. I thought she was mythos? What's up with that.
jediknight
But what I want to know is who that was. Was that Jor-El or Zod. And why was the necessary?
It wouldn't be Jor-El. The 3 best possibilities would be Zod, Brainiac somehow still pulling the strings, or The Eradicator (The Eradicator's goal was to recreate Krypton). It's necessary to show that someone is pulling all the strings to make sure that Clark has to fight Doomsday, and for him to get killed and for Doomsday to have nothing to stand in his way of destroying all life on Earth.
Like Livewire dying. I thought she was mythos?
Following the mythos hasn't really been this show's strong suit. Just look at Lana being the ultimate inspiration for everything good.
BobbyM
What the heck is Kandor? Thats aside, I loved it. Best episode we've had in a long time.


The capital city of Krypton.

ETA: And I'm leaning towards Jor El, knowing the story with this mythology, unless I forgot the varitas crystal's purpose.
Bkwurm
I'm not sure what my over all opinion of this episode is yet, but I know I'm feeling all bubbly on being in on the call of FauxChlo and even happier that Clark admits that Chloe was right! Woohoo! (This show so rarely comes through for me that I'll take any victory, no matter how small.

Dr. Emil is interesting, but apparently holds grudges. Nice dig at Chloe there Doc. She's in love with Davis because she was desperate for a cure...so she didn't have to leave town and go into hiding with a monster. Dude gets testy when he's threatened with the Ultimate Destroyer's wrath.

I did like that he's the new go to answer's guy. Gaeta needs a new job. Wonder if he'll be around next year.

That car was just a bit random though. I wonder if I was supposed to be able tell the make and model? It had to be product placement. Which almost bankrupt auto company makes Chloe's ugly car? (mostly the color)
The Spook
I think the reason Clark can't hear the real Chloe is that Chloe knows she actually has to scream out Clark's name for it to activate and she won't (not to mention can't for fear of Davis) do it.

BTW, also glad Clark knows full well whats going on and that the cheap use of misunderstanding and miscommunication isn't being done with him and Chloe as it was with Clark and Lana or Clark and Lex.
CantThinkUpName
I like the Clark hearing too. But I find some things don't make sense. Like Livewire dying. I thought she was mythos? What's up with that.
They've killed "secondary" mythos characters before like Morgan Edge and Dr. Foster.
cmirk01
Oliver- Is a dick. But I'm starting to warm up to this side of the character it just clicks.

Tess - Is being possessed by Zod's ball of energy? And I'm sure I wasn't the only one who noticed they ripped another Chlark line from Arrival in the hospital "If more people were like you, the world would be a better place."

Chloepod - Can I just say that I loved that Clark was able to hear her all those miles away. The show has made a distinct connection with that over the years with those two (Bizarro, Whisper, etc.,)and I was happy to see the canon continue here, even if it was supposed to be a her clone. Still it represented Chloe and the symbolism was there. And Chloe being impersonated by a Shapeshifter, didn't that happen to Lois in the comics? ;)

Clark - Acknowledging that Chloe was in fact correct about saving Davis and defended her actions because she taught him about never giving up on another individual (Legion callback). Anyone else notice the connection between what he admitted Chloe taught him in tonight's episode to the line about what Clark taught Chloe in last week's phone conversation? Great continuity there. I also noticed Clark was the one tonight who introduced the idea to separate Davis and Dooms using the rock. I wonder how Chloe's going to get it by next week?

Dr. Emil - Though I really, really like this guys energy on the show, I'm slightly confused as to his purpose on the show? One minute he's a lab/medical technician specialist go to source, next he's filling in some of Chloe's role with regards to the Watchtower angle ? Hey, if that means pushing Chloe back into journalism great. But I'm just slightly perplexed by this direction.

Shallow note:

That scene with "Chlarva" in the Kent living room, I kind of was taken aback by how close they got in that frame. I thought they were going in for a kiss. Did I imagine things or did I notice Clark's eyes gravitated towards her mouth in the end there? *raises eyebrow*
xjager513
I wasn't that concerned that Clark didn't figure out that wasn't Chloe. I liked that he beat himself up about it. But he has a lot going on. I love how over-protective he was over Chloe, that was awesome and I love the superhearing and the barn scene with fake Chloe. The actor who were part of the injustice were alright. Now I wonder though, who is going to show up next week Tess or Zod or whoever inside Tess.
SaveLevi
Did I imagine things or did I notice Clark's eyes gravitated towards her mouth in the end there? *raises eyebrow*

No, he definitely looked at her mouth. TW made a clear choice there.
Sue Denim
The Kandor stuff really did seem to come from no where, but let's cheer for small things regarding Tess and Clark -- no more skirting the issue. I don't see how she's helping Clark though. Seems to me she's doing the exact opposite. By Zod, you don't suppose Zod's in Kandor and she's talking with Zod? Isn't it Zod coming back based on the photo in the make-up trailer?

What I liked about Clark and faux Chloe was how Clark reacted. It was pretty easy to see that Chloe was off, but Clark's reaction to Eva/Chloe dying in his arms was about as perfect as it gets. And good call for TW as a director for Chloe to reach for his hands at the beginning. It turned what probably was an icky conversation into something very personal and heartfelt for them.

I had a feeling Injustice was part one of the finale, and yes, I expect Doomsday to be like part two.

I was also glad to see Clark say Chloe was right to stop him from sending Davis to the Phantom Zone. I agree with his plan to send Doomsday to the phantom zone.

We need Dr. Emil next season. We need him lots.


I agree. This character immediately was given the fast track in understanding the drives and motives of those around him. What he had to say was actually useful and made sense, and hasn't been repeated millions of times.

Yay for Clex call back and what Clex did agree on about fate and destiny. I love Clark shouting down Tess and Oliver.

I cannot tell if Ollie's supposed to be charming or a dick.

The glances Tess gave him indicate the later. He's a dick. Can he STFU CTUN?

My glee is dampened by this Kandor and Tess ending though. Any canon experts able to explain how I missed this direction?
kaly123
Whose voice came from the Gay Disco Ball?

Sorta underwhelming as how did the disco ball of Kryptonian controller of the Travel become a gateway to communicating with Zod?

Only happy to see Zod and Tess, Tod/Ted more than Chloe and him. But due to SW's hotness means we'll get to see him flirt with AM's Chloe. Like to see Ollie get smacked around just because.

It wasn't bad, competent directing by TW for the many scenes he had. Surprised he let Eva!Chloe slip off like that and not catch her faster. Surprised while Eva!Chloe was holding her head Clark didn't X-ray scan her quick.

Hope there's future IJL but Zod controls them? Don't know because Plastique hates Tess if Tess is going for being Zod's bitch if it's true the voice was saying she'd be Kandor's savior? How'd Zod get to Kandor and what does Kandor have to do with Earth? Or is Zod aware from Faora or Brainiac that Kandor still exists with Kryptonians?

Glad they have been doing deep thought discussion of ethics and possibilities about how the PZ could still allow the Beast to escape.
I hate is that no one seems to realize Clark isn't able to kill Doomsday nor Davis. It's this impossible fated task.

Mainly waiting for next week' expisode. Last week's was so intense.
Firebunny
Did Oliver's explanation of "a secret rehabilitation facility where there's no possibility to escape" creep anyone else out?
I immediately thought of 33.1. And the way Ollie drank from that bottle. I've been resisting the Lex-in-Ollie spec, but I'm beginning to come round.

Tom Welling does a really good job with the other actors when he directs (and he does a good job with his own performances as well). I loved how fake!Chloe's voice was about a quarter octave higher than real!Chloe's voice. I've thought for the past half season that CF has been over doing it, but her performance was reigned in this episode. Unfortunately he couldn't do much with Plastique. She just don't have much to work with.

I liked the FX when Clark's powers were stripped. It was like Superman was ripped from his body. That was cool.

Overall a solid episode. I liked Beast more, but this was a good set up for the finale.
xjager513
The car reminded me of Batman actually. I know they said they weren't bringing him, but then i began to wonder if there is a possibility.
screamin
They may have found a body from before Chloe stayed with Davis.


No, because one of the women from the beginning sequence was with the one who died. It was all kind of unclear to me what happened, but at some point it seemed that Neutron boy tried to zap Davis. Bad move.
cmirk01
I'm not thrilled that Clark isn't following up on his promise to search for her, though.


To be fair the first scene is of Clark in the DP discussing the Chlavis situation, cut to him hearing who he believes is Chloe. Spends half the episode with her, assuming his search for her has ended. Does his whole Clark alpha male overprotective spiel on her. It's only a little past the half way point in the episode that he's aware she's actually Eva. And at that point he has to wrap up the situation and get the rock to split Davis and Dooms (something Chloe would of wanted him to do). I viewed this as Clark helping Chloe from his side of the situation acknowledging Chloe's wish by helping Davis vs just sending him altogether to the Phantom Zone. He was juggling and playing Oliver like a string to get what he needed (the rock) and achieved that by the episode. Next week is when it should get interesting
FreddyO
Definitely Zod talking to Tess at the end, not Jor-El. I'm not even sure if Tess understands who she's working with there. Might be more that Zod is just using her for his own means (to get released from the PZ). Either way that was a semi-neat ending.

As others have said, we did get yet one more Chloe auto-activates Clark's superhearing. That's just a Chlois thing it's not even funny. Although I doubt the writers even get that. But it's still cool that we have that consistency.

Overall, for an episode that was supposed to set up a H-U-G-E finale with Doomsday and Clark fighting to the death, this one came up short for me. A lot of "yawner" portions from this one. I was not as inspired as I thought I would be.

Guess next week will be my last ever episode of SV. I'm not coming back if ED is. And I think she is, so Doom will be it for me.
jediknight
How'd Zod get to Kandor and what does Kandor have to do with Earth? Or is Zod aware from Faora or Brainiac that Kandor still exists with Kryptonians?
In canon Kandor was shrunk by Brainiac, so that's how Zod could get to Kandor. Brainiac was in control of the Fortress for awhile, and if anyone could find a way out of the Phantom Zone without the blood of an El it's Brainiac.
The car reminded me of Batman actually.
Same here, I flashed back to The Dark Knight. More specifically the part where Bruce tells Alfred he's going to take the Lamborghini.
xjager513
To be fair the first scene is of Clark in the DP discussing the Chlavis situation, cut to him hearing who he believes is Chloe. Spends half the episode with her, assuming his search for her has ended. Does his whole Clark alpha male overprotective spiel on her. It's only a little past the half way point in the episode that he's aware she's actually Eva. And at that point he has to wrap up the situation and get the rock to split Davis and Dooms (something Chloe would of wanted him to do). I viewed this as Clark helping Chloe from his side of the situation acknowledging Chloe's wish by helping Davis vs just sending him altogether to the Phantom Zone. He was juggling and playing Oliver like a string to get what he needed (the rock) and achieved that by the episode. Next week is when it should get interesting


I have to agree with this. I liked that he understood where she was coming from, that was nice, and he still trusted her. There was not tare in that relationship, it just seemed to get stronger. And that's true, he was trying to help Chloe by making sure she wasn't found in the cross fire.

Like I said before, this is probably one of the few episodes where Clark was able to act more like Superman. Instinctive about Oliver, crafted a plan, made decisions. Me like.
MissPiggyWiggy
Clark was very overprotective, its almost like she is his Lois. I like that part when she touches his hands, and he looks confused, unsure. So much there, I hope they don't let it go to waste.


Chloe *is* Clark's "Lois" - IMO, & Word on this part: "So much there, I hope they don't let it go to waste." Oliver & Clark convo's are tedious, with the same content, over & over.
cmirk01
Speaking of Clark being overprotective of "Chloe" did this seem like the first freaking episode where people around Chloe were treating her in a realistic fashion (as close to realism as Smallville gets? Clark, Oliver, Dr.Email and acknowledging the woman has been through one fucked up year?) They kept reiterating that throughout the episode
acampbell
Hmm, oh yeah. TW directed this ep. I'd forgotten this was coming up.

So, now we have everyone continually egging Clark to kill Davis. I don't mind it as much as when everyone (including Lionel Luthor) was urging Clark to off Lex "for the good of humanity," because Davis truly IS a killing machine, albeit a sympathetic one--whereas everyone was always slinging mud at Lex for imparted deeds and wickedness that we actually SAW very little of--, but still, it's getting tired.

This Injustice League might be a little more interesting if we had seen something of them during the course of the season. I don't much care for SV totally dropping story elements and then pulling them back out of a hat when convenient. We haven't seen or had a mention of Bette since her one/only ep early in the season. Besides, SV's always so (literally) dark now that it's hard to see what's going on.

And there goes Clark, blaming himself again. Too bad he's blamed himself for everything under the sun EXCEPT the stuff he's truly guilty of.

So, um, Clark? "Finding that last little bit of good in someone and saving them from themselves?" Where were all these good intentions when Lex was around? You gave everyone, even his psychopathic father, chance after chance, but not him. And, Chloe taught you that? She turned on Lex out of the blue way back in S4, regularly bashed him verbally, calling him a "snake," and a "monster," then declaring that Lionel Luthor "died for all of us."

You're both whacked. Or the writers, or whatever. Doesn't much matter who.

They're doing a much better job with the Chlarkavis triangle than they did with Clexana, but Chloe is seeming more Lanafied by the episode.

Whatever happened to Chloe's Healing Power? Does it still work?

And, Tess, I guess you haven't been watching this show, because nowhere, ever, in any shape or form, did Lex turn his back on Clark. Welcome to the Team of the Enablers.

They really made the same mistake with her that they did with Lionel. Once they rejected Lex, they weren't nearly as interesting.

So, Clark now knows that Oliver was the one to kill Lex. Question is, will this knowledge stick, or will it go the way of his twigging to Lionel's machinations at the end of "Traveler"? Here today, gone tomorrow?

I was really hoping that, with TW directing, he'd give a nod to the Clex by giving Clark even a bare sentence that indicated he remembered the friendship and regretted what happened. It would have been a kindness to us (starving) Clexers and added some real layers. Even just a paltry sentence would do it.

I admit my mind wandered during the ep. I liked last week's better.
Bkwurm
Some Kandor info (credit Kal el 12 on Ksite) from wiki In The Last Days of Krypton novel by Kevin J. Anderson, Kandor is depicted as the capital city of the planet of Krypton, home of the Council and the Temple of Rao. The city was sieged by the Brain Interactive Construct, later renamed Brainiac by Commissioner Zod. Brainiac had admired the beauty and architecture of Kandor and wanted to preserve the city from destruction, should disaster strike Krypton as it did on his home planet of Colu. Commissioner Zod permitted Brainiac's taking of Kandor, stating that Brainiac could have the city, as the rest of Krypton belonged to him. Brainiac's ship fired three lasers that pummeled the surrounding crust around Kandor and literally upheaved the city from Krypton's surface. A force field was then erected around the city which contracted, shrinking the city and its inhabitants. Brainiac departed without causing further destruction or seizing other Kryptonian cities.


Eradicator on Wiki:(Credit Denegation 15 on Ksite) "Back on Earth, the Eradicator caused a number of bizarre events, including altering Jimmy Olsen into a malleable form, causing him extreme pain in the process. Superman threw the device into Antarctica, where it altered the ice to create the Fortress of Solitude,[1] and possessed two scientists to create a portal to the Phantom Zone, where it drew Kryptonian artifacts to the Fortress. When Superman recovered the Eradicator, he learned that one of his ancestors, Kem-L, created it to prevent aliens from influencing Kryptonian culture. The Eradicator tried to transform Earth into a new Krypton, and erased Superman's memory of the device when he tried to interfere."

So the ball that control the Traveler being used for something else isn't completely out there.
kaly123
This episode does prove that Chloe's plan was stupid. Chloe is with Doomsday, and he still kills someone.
Davis was attacked by meteor freaks. How many people attacked and almost killed by MF's have harmed or unintentionally killed them in self defense?

Although I'm hoping they don't go with the separation of Davis and Doomsday. The characters have to realize that Davis is just the disguise, Doomsday is his true self. Don't let the Black Kryptonite thing lead to them getting separated and Doomsday being stopped but "Davis" being saved.

Why is there such a need for Davis to be murdered also to kill Doomsday. Is there a need for vindication to have someone die as a bad guy and not saved as a valued being that can be separated from the Beast? I don't see PTB writing for Clark don't be Superman and not do the right thing, to even try. The minute they separate the Beast will kill Davis so the blood lust for his death will still be done for some people's need for his karma come uppance as they view it. I guess Clark saying heroism is gong to the end to find a way to save isn't right.
CantThinkUpName
And, Tess, I guess you haven't been watching this show, because nowhere, ever, in any shape or form, did Lex turn his back on Clark. Welcome to the Team of the Enablers.

They really made the same mistake with her that they did with Lionel. Once they rejected Lex, they weren't nearly as interesting.
Tess enabling Clark and not understanding the Clex doesn't bother me as much as what they did with Lionel or all of Clark's friends enabling him. Tess is seriously damaged, still bitter at Lex, and looks at Clark with creepy adoring eyes. When she enables him, she's doing it from a really unhealthy, dangerous place. I find that a lot easier to handle than what every other character has done.
The Spook
By the way, was I the only one who thought Tess's annoyance with Oliver is connected with her bitterness with Lex? As in, this might be a clue with the Loliver theory?
Salvadorangirl
Chloe is with Doomsday, and he still kills someone.


Yeah but as Stilletto and Beast showed, even with Chloe around if he feels there is a threat to Chloe's life he turns into Doomsday. It's what Emil stated that extreme ranges of emotions have a part in what Doomsday is.

I'm sure IJL grabbed ahold of Chloe to get to Davis and he saw that as a threat to Chloe and he Doomed out.
javier90
Tonight Smallville just clarified why they never have to bring in Batman at all. They have there Bruce Wayne in Oliver Queen

The entire episode Oliver personified the many infamous Wayne characteristics

He is a Playboy: Using sex appeal to try to get information, as well as being characterized as a spoiled little kid who needs to grow up.

"Spoiled little rich snob who has issues, many many issues"( thanks to harmier for the quote, stated in Justice)

The final scene between Clark and Ollie was the ideal scene I would expect between Clark and Bruce.

Batman always carries kryptonite in his artillery belt as a way that if he ever feels like Clark is out of control then he will use the ring to protect the people and himself.

Oh and Wayne and Ollie each can be characterized very easily as the perfect definition of a billionaire playboy DICK.
kenm
Either way, I'll be celebrating. Either my freedom or my new contract with the show :)


Me four.

I enjoyed the episode, but I think Chloe's actions need to be accounted for. It's Doomsday rampaging around, right, not Davis? That, at least, is the impression I got from what the Tess' people were saying. So, if Davis Doomed out and is on the loose, why wouldn't Chloe call Clark? What reason would she have to stay gone if Davis is out of her control? Did I misunderstand?
starwolf
This episode had an interesting call out to the movie "Michael Clayton," when Clark and Oliver go "I'm not the enemy." "Then who are you?"

The episode also reminded me of various stories that toss around the idea Clark/Superman is just too moral to operate in the real world. Of course, stories like that imply that if Superman, Batman, etc. ever did "cross the line" they would wind up becoming killcrazy psychos so they wouldn't feel like hypocrites. Plastique even says what various vigilantes say, that they would rather be "bad guys" than let evil people avoid justice.

Kandor is a very cool twist, explaining Tess' slavish devotion to Clark.
screamin
I think that Chloe is there mainly to control Davis' spontaneous unprovoked transformations into Doomsday. I think that if they are seriously attacked, all bets are off on how far Chloe can control him - which is one of the reasons why they're laying low from the authorities.
The Spook
He's not loose. The IJL was hunting them. That also seems to be the only death since Davis fled town, and it has been implied by the episode that its been weeks.

A lion tamer can only do so much. Can't help when someone willingly pokes a stick at said lion.
javier90
Geez was anyone else shocked at the amount of religious meta in the opening scene. I felt like I was being whacked on the head. One sentence after another. If Tess was not characterized as Judas after this episode, then I do not know who is.
akksgurl
Pretty good episode even if it was mostly just setting up the finale. I was especially pleased to discover that my initial belief that Nois would be in it turned out to be unfounded. A surprise Lois-Free episode is awesome!

I suspected Chloe wasn't Chloe from the start. She seemed off although I don't blame Clark for not initially realizing because her odd behavior simply could have been PTSD. I'll give him a break. And the way he glanced at her mouth during that super close-up scene in the farmhouse was swoon worthy. His reaction when "Chloe" died in his arms was wonderful! He is totally in love with that girl. Nobody will ever convince me otherwise.

Eva Greer? Any relation to Tina??

And that car, first thing I thought of was "Batman". Actually, first thing I thought of was Dean Winchester from Supernatural saying "I'm Batman!" and after I stopped giggling I started to wonder if we might get a little guest star calling himself Bruce next season and wondering what the heck happened to his car.

Whose voice came from the Gay Disco Ball?

I was wondering that too. I thought it was Jor-El but the hubby thought it was Zod. Of course, since Jor-El is voiced by movie Zod we could have both been right. LOL! Upon further thought, it was probably either Brainiac or Zod, though. Jor-El would have no reason to possess the Disco Ball and chat with Tess.

This episode does prove that Chloe's plan was stupid. Chloe is with Doomsday, and he still kills someone.

But did Davis really kill that guy? Most likely he did since it was already proven that if Chloe or Davis were threatened, he'd Doom out regardless, but I have to confess that I questioned it especially after it was determined that Chloe wasn't Chloe and Tess was offing her own crew. Nothing was as it seemed in the first half of the episode.

Nothing much to add other than I love how Chloe activiated Clark's superhearing

You and me both!

Oliver is SO being controlled by Lex.

IA. I wasn't a big believer in the "Loliver" theory until this episode. The green K ring, the line "I'm not your enemy, Clark", and the comment about a secret rehabilitation facility with no escape (33.1??) was SO Lex. If that isn't what TPTB are aiming for, then they're making a lot of odd coincidences.
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The biggest failure of this episode was the avoidance of where Real!Chloe is and what's going down with her and Dooms. It wouldn't have been as glaring an omission if they didn't keep bringing up Dooms' killing sprees, but since it felt like Dooms was just a step away, the next logical step felt like it should've been to SHOW Chlavis. I was waiting for a final Chloe scene and was disappointed when it didn't come.
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