Zap2it:

"Oh my god, I'm Nois. If only my face were mobile enough to express my shock and dismay."

Did anyone else find that episode really, really depressing or am I just in a mood today?

Chloe's birthday was as much of a downer as I was going to parody in the Lines thread. The only thing missing was Oliver threatening her over the Sebastian murder again and Lois vomiting on her cake. I am glad she's said everything we've been saying about her for the past year or so in many, many threads. Of course Oliver was such a douche to her. No wonder she hides her feelings.After it turns out that everyone loves Lois, I pretty much settled in for a really dark night. (No pun intended.)

I didn't really like ED as Chloe. Too much bug eyes and twitchiness. I will give the makeup people for one thing. Lois was horribly tan while Clois had a more human shade.

Zatanna was pretty good and I'm glad she figured out Oliver was GA. Oliver, of course, was a dick to her too. His paternalistic crap ("this book is dangerous so, fuck you, I'm going to burn it") annoys me to no end.

When did Clark start Justice Leaguing with the rest of the JLers? Why did Clark frame the rules of reporting? What's with all the Clois phone calls?

So how did...Chloe stop being Lois? "Looks like hero support isn't just a day job anymore?" No. No. No. You're more than a sidekick.. You're more than a sidekick! "This will mean leaving your old life as a reporter behind?" NO! NO! STOP! BAD! She seems...happy. I still have faith. I need to with this show.

So it takes about 20 more seconds to take the elevator than superleap? Seems like a waste to superleap.

Did I miss the scene where Clark declares his feelings for Lois in Chloe's body?

At least we didn't end on Clois and some of the worst office angst ever.

Wow! I feel like I was just punched in the gut. That was horrible for Chloe fans. I can’t even begin to express my anger and disgust with these writers. More crapping on Chloe. So let me get this right.

Chloe finally admits, after years of being a Pod person, that she wants her old life back. The life that Nois has. Fine, that’s a great start. But unfortunately it goes downhill after the opening credits.

She walks into the Planet (as Nois) and presto, she’s a world class reporter with other DP workers heaping accolades upon her. Nice offscreenville stuff again. I keep missing all those episodes where we get to see Nois climbing the journalism ladder. Ughhh...

Then, we do indeed get the Clark “look” before he knows it’s Chloe. Somehow I knew I shouldn’t have been sucked into all the optimism on that point. Damn! Never again. I work much better from my pessimistic side. It’s served me well for several years now with this show and I’m not going to give it up again.

But it gets worse. After the “look” we get to hear that Chloe can only break the spell when she stops wishing to be like Nois. We saw this scene in the promos and even then I had a bad feeling that it was going to lead to no good at the end. After all, she’s supposed to have this “epiphany” at the end of the episode and she’s not going to change back to being Chloe unless something pretty big snaps her out of wishing for her old life with Clark and the DP. So nothing good can come of the “epiphany” at this point.

Clark gets whammied and to add insult to injury we not only get that he wants to be normal (not unexpected, but old at this point) but that he too is worshipping at the altar of Nois. He actually quotes from her rules of journalism? Ugh. That was a real slap in the face. Under no circumstances should we ever be lead to believe Clark thinks this version of ILL is a good reporter to be admired. Onscreenville hasn’t lead me to that point. Just the opposite in fact. But that’s another story entirely.

And finally we have it. The dreaded conclusion to this sick, sick episode that served only to get Chlois fans’ hopes up. Knew I shouldn’t have been sucked in. Not for a second. Stupid me. *Slaps self in face*

So in order for the spell over Chloe to be broken she has to tell Clark the world needs him, which I assume means she realizes she has to let him go. Then the spell is broken. I did NOT like the imagery there. I know she got the “Up, up and away” line, but that didn’t negate what I perceived to be the writers telling. So we got old Chloe back for less than one episode and then she gives up her dream again. God that sucks!

Oh, and we get yet another death anvil for Chloe on top of that. Ok, that’s three weeks and counting now. Geesh! I know some folks take that as a good thing, but I’m still not sold.

And then we get the obligatory “let’s not live in the past” line from Chloe at the end. Along with a hell of a lot more Clois pimping from her and Chimmy pimping from Clark. No pimping of Chlark though, except for the beginning at the party (and even then the irony is that Clark can’t even be there for her) when Chloe, for the first time in a couple of years, actually had a look of love when she was anticipating Clark and got Ollie instead. Just seemed like one more big slam.

Yea, only ONE LOIS LANE.

And yeah, Chloe’s no longer a reporter – for good. She’s Watchtower. Wow, how wonderful.

God PS3, how many more anvils do I need to hit me on the head. Answer: None. I’m through believing.

All in all, a crappy episode for a crappy season. I'm out.

Let me just be the first to say, Chloe's new role as Watchtower? Is AWESOME.

While I hate that they effectively had Chloe drop her original dreams, I respect that people can change and am SALIVATING about her making Watchtower the real deal! YAY!

The beginning of this episode had me really worried. But not only is Chloe choosing to be Watchtower kind of awesome, I think I'm officially on Team Clois. I didn't think they'd make me buy it, but they have. Tom and Erica were all kinds of fabulous, both together and apart. This episode was a very nice surprise.

Starting out with the shallow, Zatanna was hot. She was really hot. I couldn't have been the only one that thought she looked like Megan Fox. Here's hoping Zatanna makes a return.

Erica Durance did an excellent job as Chlois. And that was the most chemistry she and Clark had in a long time. Too bad they can't write Lois that entertaining every week.

And that ending was awesome. Finally the return of the Justice League. It was an awesome ending to an awesome episode.

Watchtower's role is a consolation prize ...

WOW,Just WOW! (and that's not a good wow)

Haven't posted in a while.....

But I have to say that I am thrilled that Chloe has stopped straddling the fence and becomes

WATCHTOWER.... I squeed big time. IMHO this puts an end to Chlois, and what a great ending.

That girl was always destined for a life more than reporting the news...

I thought that ED did a good job (most of it) playing Chloe, though I would have liked to have have seen AM try her hand at Lois.

Though on the whole I the episode was a bit boring. TW did a great job with the mild mannered reporter bits. And the Chlark scene at the end was nice.

First thoughts while still fresh-

- Tom was hilarious as Clark tonight. I was afraid it would be a total rehash of the S4 episode, but instead it was more of a parody of the mild mannered Clark Kent of the movies, which I loved.

- Chloe becoming the Watchtower. I liked it. It means they will have her out of the "mother teresa" role she envisioned for herself after her stint at Black Creek. The fact that she has thrown away her past life DID sting, but look at it this way: If Lois dies, she will feel compelled to carry the torch for her by taking up her name as a sort of duel identity for herself, with her primary job being hero support. She gets to spend a hell of alot of time with Clark too.

- The Chlark convo was awesome too, because all week we have been discussing why they haven't been closer, and this episode showed that they needed to start talking to each other again, mutually. Yes, she pimped the Clois, but I have my theory on that...

- Zatanna. A girl who looks hot AND can act? Why couldn't she have been Lois? Why? I like how she's basically an honorary member of the JL now.

- The Clois. I actually do not mind Clois, if it ends before it really begins or is cut tragically short. Her death, if it happens, while she and Clark are an item, would teach Clark a hard lesson.

All in all, I didn't hate the episode, even if it wasn't the masterpiece the previous one was.

What's with Watchtower? What happened to Oracle?

I'm conflicted. On the one hand, I really hope Chloe acting as Oracle does stick, even if it'll take one PS3 visit to the comic shop to put her in a wheelchair. And I also feel that this would be a great episode for anybody just tuning into the show. But the episode is built on the corpse of Chloe's old, kick-ass status quo, topped by the utter lie that Lois is good at anything except looking awful and occasionally giving good head. And for that, it's mostly fail, even with the non-body swap (lyin' solicts) and Zatanna.

Really, I don't know what's more fucked up: Lois meeting the Dalai Lama or Clark framing her tips. Is PS3 freakin' kidding me?!?

I also kinda wished we got subtitles for Zatanna's spells. It's more fun to read the letter-backwards/words-forward format than to hear it out loud.

Next week: blah blah blah, more "Two aliens came to Earth" crap that was teased this past week.

Alexl467,

Watchtower is not a real character in the normal, cannon DCU--the Watchtower is the name of the space station that the JL uses as a headquarters. Oracle (formerly Batgirl) served a pretty similar function after Barbara Gordon was paralyzed and confined to a wheelchair.

How is Chloe giving up her dream job as a reporter "someone else's life?" That was/and ALWAYS will be HER life. Nois just fell into it. Plus, why does this show think that there can only be one reporter?! Complete and utter BS! This whole thing sucked big time!

I definitely concur. That was very cool. The whole episode was great. Definitely one of the best this season.

I wasn't going to watch, but I got all optimistic at the last second...oops. Should've known better. Punch to the gut for Chlark/Chlois fans, huh?

But that last scene? That's not Chloe. It's just not. It didn't sound like her, look like her, or act like her. Something odd is going on.

Did anyone else get the feeling that it seemed as though Superman likes Nois but Clark Kent doesn't?

I have to say that ED did a pretty good job playing Chloe. She got the expressions right and in some shots, she managed to actually resemble AM. I'm not fan of hers, but this was not a bad job.

Loved the ending with Chloe and Zatanna made this a fun episode. The humor was good too.

I found the Lois lovefest to be nauseating. Since when did she become this respected reporter? All off-camera I guess. She became a great writer because the writers decided to make her a great writer.

Also, if Lois had started with that "whoa is me" stuff in the beginning, Oliver would have been tripping over himself trying to console her instead of giving her a look and knocking her for being jealous. But everyone hates Chloe.

Watchtower is much more important than what Lois is doing off-camera.

I was relieved we got Allison back in time for the best moment because only she can bring it. "Up Up and Away..."

Because Chloe's forte isn't being a reporter, yes she must be Watchtower that is her true wish and calling supporting MF was just too menial. To be the stepandfetch it for JLA. That is how they will resolve the Chlois on SV. Not finish the true story but call it a pathetic pining for the past that we as fans must get over it. She and Clark are twins instead of true soulmat partners, thus they both must tell their twuwuvs, Jimmy & Blanois the truth if they are to be in their lives.
Was I missing things in that as EDChloe didn't even get to beat up a burgular and save the day. ITA that ED botox face was hurting trying to replicate the facial minutae and acting AM pulls off to portray Chloe.

I don't think SW!Davis woobie can make me watch the rest of the season after the Butcher's slaughter. Chlark just as blah buddy friends is stale and over and underwhelming. Thanks PS3, complicit AM & TW, just suck shit and die already with your phat S9 ride thru the economic recession checks.

One good thing...Clark's wish was not to be with Lana. That's a good thing.

Umm, I know. Since when has Clark become such a girl? It might as well have had lipstick kisses on the frame.

So Clark's dream of being "normal" even though he was born with superpowers that he did not choose to have is equivalent to Chloe wanting to be a reporter even though she.... is talented and worked her whole life towards it? Something's not lining up here.

But. They also basically contrasted Lois, who only reports on disasters and does nothing to prevent them, yet receives major recognition for it, to Chloe, who now works in secret to prevent disasters, yet does not do it for thanks or accolades, but only because it's right.

Hmm. I have to think this one over some more, and post again later.

Also, the part where Ch/Lois tried to whack Clark with the pole had me lawling. That should happen every episode.

I don't know. At least if that had been his wish I could have justified it as consistent with what we've seen onscreen for 8 years. His worship of Nois the Reporter came out of left field entirely. Just more lightswitching tonight, IMHO.

Dude, seriously, whatever came out of that portal was NOT Chloe. Either that or she's seriously putting on a great show. The line about reporting being someone else's life? It was strange.

I'm really disappointed in this episode. I don't think I've ever hated Clark before, but he was a real jerk in his first scene, I mean he's had his moments but he's never been such a JERK.

And the script, besides all the OOC (jerky Clark) was just underwhelming. It was a lot like Infamous. I expected it to be more than it was.

I see now that a lot of the reason Lois is so unlikeable is because of ED (it's not just the writing). She failed big time as Chloe. The difference between EDChloe giving Clark the "You're the hero speech" and the couple lines AMCHloe said after she changed back just show how much meaning and emotion AM can put into the character. ED added nothing. I'm not surprised Clark didn't notice that Lois was Chloe right away, because ED didn't really do anything to modify her performance.

The only thing I liked, really, was TW as mind!whammied Clark. I loved how he got all manly to call 911. And his reaction to breaking the door handle. That was great. But he didn't sustain it for the whole mind!whammied section.

And the puppy dog eyes? I don't see it and I can't figure out why. I don't think it's only my shipper preference. I detested the Clana, but I could see Clark's love and attraction to Lana in TW's performance. I just don't see it with EDLois. I think those two must have negative chemistry. It's like they're worse in scenes together than they are in scenes with others. I just don't get it.

And I don't get the message of this episode. Give up on your dreams. That's really inspiring. Maybe I'll just give up on my dream that Smallville could be good someday.

What a travesty & insult. After 7 damn years establishing Chloe Sullivan is a reporter, a lightswitch of "Not anymore" & then degraded further in pimping CNois & Miss "Absolutely". I won't even get into how bad Erica Durance's acting was as Chloe. It was a bad parody, just as a feared.

However, Chloe wasn't the only one who was regraded, Clark acting like douchebag about the one person who has always supported him.

The lightswitching was at an all time high tonight IMHO.

THANK you, AceReporter. I was disgusted by this as well. And you know what? I think TPTB know that, too. Nice lightswitch, PTB. Unless Season 9 has Chloe back at the DP, I won't be seeing you again.

You really think so? I didn't see anything as coming out of left field. I thought it was only a matter of time that Chloe was back in the Watchtower-role, albeit not full-time. Still, it's feels like a natural transition from her running Isis.

What an absolutely crappy ending. So in one day Chloe goes from wishing to be a reporter at the DP with Clark to wanting to be Watchtower? Can you say lightswitch? Q didn't disappoint. It was crap. YMMV.

I'm one of those Chloe fans who wouldn't mind entirely if she didn't stick to reporting so long as what she was doing afterwards was legit. Isis Councilor was not that, but Watchtower definitely is. I've always thought, especially in the middle of Season 6, that she had started getting a duel persona (much like Clark). When Lex fired her from the corrupted Daily Planet, she thought she lost her "true" self. But now she has changed that perception. She is embracing the hero side of herself, and I absolutely love that. Because even if their is no Chlois romance, or even a Chlark Romance, she will at least be a hero. And thats more important than damsel in distress in my book.

As a shipper, I was unfazed. Yeah, the Chlark convo at the end could have been taken as an anti-ship anvil, but at the same time, it could have signaled the end of whatever was blocking them in the first case.

A thought occured to me...what if Chlark is a superhero romance as opposed to a modern day Lois and Clark? I mean, I know I might seem a bit bright and sunny for the vitriol usually thrown at this particular writer (not that I blame anyone, I certainly feel like it), but what if they shot down (or pretended to shoot down, maybe) Chlois because they had something better?

I switched the channel mid-way during the last chlark scene. Didn't care to hear more of Podchloe. Blech.

This is another reason I hope they kill her off to avoid shit like that and quit wasting my time to continue with the show.

One thing though, at the beginning when "Chloe" was talking to Nois, did I hear her utter a line about having a frog stuck in her throat?!?

The Good: Chloe in the end was focused and determined and has left doubt behind and is not the victim anymore.

The Bad: Everything else.

Wow, the butcher was in fine form tonight. All the crap from the spoilers made it to screen and none of the good stuff. No scene where Chloe realizes Lois uses her boobs to get what she wants, no chasing after the mugger, no Jimmy being a jerk.

No, instead of that we find out that Clark is pretty much a tool making puppy dog eyes and constantly calling Lois while ignoring his best friend and giving her gifts not meant to remind her of when they first met, but when life still had mysterious and unexplained things for HIM. All about Clark.

I also am still extremely pissed that the first comment we hear from Clark on the Chimmy break up is support for JIMMY!!!! And in the very same episode that the Vessel kiss is mentioned AGAIN we have Chloe saying Clark has never looked at her like he does Lois. BULLSH*T!

Then there is wardrobe. What, Chloe is too distracted by the new boobs that she ignores the fact that the vest doesn't come close to fitting? She has nothing a little longer, say like the shirt she was wearing under it? I hate that they tried passing off Chloe as this little girl with no fashion sense once she was in Lois's body. And do not get me started with that lame barretts.

This show hates me. It takes out dull, steely knives and jabs me over with many pains, forcing itself in directions it cleary IMO has not earned. Such crap.

Agreed, realchloerocks, I haven't watched in a while...so I of course assumed that it was just me missing things. Oops, this is SV--lazy, lightswitchy writing is the norm.

Oh, Clark's always been a big girl. :)

Interesting that whatever parts of Jimmy that were originally in this episode were axed. Not that I mind, because there really wasn't room for them and I think it made Chloe being able to decide to move on far more seamless.


Clark wasn't calling Lois, she was calling him. I assume he answered because unlike Chloe, Lois wouldn't have known he was on JL business with Bart.

I'm done. What a spectacular mess they've made of my favorite show. Not only was this a string of insults to long-term Chloe fans (that IS Chloe's life, you stupid morons, and no one ever wanted her to be EDLo), but God almighty, Erica Durance sucks. That was some of the worst acting I've ever seen in my life. When she transformed back to AM, the difference was palpable. Add to that Cnois pimpage, Clark supposedly falling for a pair of boobs instead of the girl who brings out the hero in him, and Clark generally being a jerk, I'll be happy just to read fanfic from now on. At least fanfic is written by real writers.

I caught the frog line too, and I wondered if it was a shoutout or if (more likely) The Butcher just stumbled into it unknowingly. Either way, the context was off....

Well I didn't watch the episode, but knew it was going to suck for Chloe to no end ....... after 7 years of Reporter!Chloe, am I suppose to believe that Watchtower will fill that role perfectly????? there is no freaking waaaay I am buying that .... as much as noble Watchtower might be ..... Reporter!Chloe will always be my favorite ..... I don't think I could be ever be more disappointed .... this show incredibly topped it tonight.....

I sigh...I set my expectations low, really I did. I was told this episode would make a Chloe fan happy, but I knew they would never trash their precious Lois-Great Reporter/Chloe-Not Any More paradigm just to make me happy. Or their Clark/EDLois OTP storyline. So I just hoped that at least they'd throw me the bone of the mercy killing of the Chimmy. What would it cost them? They're obviously a hopeless couple. They're not even ICONIC! So I really hoped that at least this episode would put that marriage out of its misery - that there would at least be one brief scene where Chloe, having realized what deadweight that relationship is, tells a conciliatory Jimmy, in the nicest possible manner, to take his crummy ring and cram it sideways.

Was that too much to ask? Apparently. Not only did they not give it to me, they rubbed in the lack by having Clark push for a Chimmy reconciliation, because obviously they think it would make me happy to watch that misbegotten couple writhe in agony even longer. Or they just hate me. Whichever.

Besides the main annoyance of the disappearance of the Chloe Journalism ambition for no good reason, there were other editing quirks - wasn't there supposed to be a scene where Chloe intervened in the mugging? And why did the 'up, up, and away' scene look so lame compared to the preview? We didn't even see AM say it, she said it offscreen. Bleagh.

Good stuff - well, Zatanna's cute. A little vacuous-appearing at times, but I gather she was supposed to be...and there was that moment she won my heart. Yeah, Oliver's a total dick, hon. Leave him tied up for hours in the vacant lot. Love ya!

Well she HAS been Watchtower for three years now, so its not a lightswitch like the Isis thing was....

One useless, bizarro Nois Nane, anyway.

It's a separate continuity (just like SV now--at least they're admitting they're not really trying to keep anything in overall DC continuity anymore).This a little off topic now, but BB Barbara Gordon was never paralyzed or Oracle. She ended up becoming Commissioner, like her father in that verse. :)

I can't believe I'm saying this, but now I really hope Chloe dies so I can be free. :(

Big, fat WORD to every bit of that Elly. I've been kicked in the balls by this show before, but never to this extreme. Tonight's episode was by far the biggest slap ever to Chloe fans. And the damn writers know it good and well. Utter bullcrap. Oh well, at least I'm free at last.

That was pretty painful. In the space of an hour, Chloe is blindingly jealous of Clark and Lois' life as reporters, then deciding she should be Watchtower fulltime. Im an eternal optimist, so I can believe she's just doing the "fighting her destiny" thing for now. It's a *little* closer to Real!Chloe, but I will conveniently forget all that bullshit about how reporting is someone else's life.

ED as Chloe was... just like ED as Lois. I forgot she was supposed to be Chloe most of the time. ED as Lois was okay, it seems like she's retired her Pining Eyes of Pining. I loved that Chloe turned back right in time, and that we didn't get to hear why or how she got the spell reversed.

I also liked how she wasn't wearing her wedding ring in the last Isis scene. Die Chimmy Die! There were more than one callback to romantic Chlark, too, which didn't hurt my feelings.

No, I'm fair sure they believe their own BS. Lana is a superhero now, too, remember?

Ditto. This quote from James Marsters mentioned in his new interview with IGN. Couldn't be more appropriate with regards to this show

"It was kind of like… Have you ever been dating that girlfriend and you're really into her and she's just not that into you and you just can't get away and you can't get away, and then finally, something happens and you're torn away and you're free? It's kind of like that. You're kind of liberated from your own love in that way."

I totally understand what you mean, actually I am losing all interest on her character, I wonder if what's left of her will be enough to keep me coming back ......... Chlark have been so superficial lately ... I think I am seriously done with SV for good.