TWoP Tennison
Nov 6, 2008 @ 8:27 am
From Zap2it:
Clark receives a package containing the crystal that Tess found in the Arctic; the crystal activates, sending Clark and Lois to the Phantom Zone, where they run into Kara (Laura Vandervoort); Zod's wife, Faora, takes over Lois' body.
Last Time Lord
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:01 pm
I wish to made love to this season.
I LOVED this episode. I'm going to miss Kara, but holy crap, Doomsday!
lovesflicks
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:07 pm
Shirtless Davis!!! That was the best part of the episode!!!
Well, not quite. I loved Lois being taken over by Zod's wife. That put her in the same boat as Chloe with having no control over their bodies. I found Lois more tolerable that way and was disappointed when she was back to her old bitchy self.
I fear for Chloe now. What she did to get Clark back was killing her.
Davis can heal from having a pole shoved thru him? Interesting. As usual, SW rocked. He's getting more screentime too.
The anvils were so goddamn annoying. "No one messes with Lois and Clark" PLEASE, stop shoving Clois down my throat!!
jediknight
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:09 pm
Doomsday is Zod's son? Zod created Doomsday? Okay, now that's a pretty good twist right there. They've really been going a good job with Davis/Doomsday. Now, just keep it up. Do not screw this up. Don't be laying an excellent foundation, only to cap it off with crap.
You've got to love that Zod's wife wasn't as batshit crazy as Lana with powers. Although they did piss away an excellent opportunity for her to recognize Brainiac. She knew that Tess was lying, but couldn't recognize that Chloe has Brainiac in her. I'm also continuing to dig the Chloiac storyline.
One last thing, don't be dissing Def Leppard, Clark.
spideychris
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:09 pm
OH MY GOD DOOMSDAY
The last part with the knife freaking KILLED ME. Even more than the part before it with the GIANT METAL PIPE.
The rest of the show was alright. I found it very funny in place, though not intentionally so. Kara's Tough Grrl attitude and Lois' Ice Queen display were both hokey enough to be amusing.
It's mostly anything with Davis' storyline progressing that psyches me up lately. And this one psyched me up in a great way. Also, I loved the expression on Davis' face when we got that awful "Mother's here" line. Definitely a precursor to the "No one injected you with anything, did they?" questions later. SW is wonderful.
Edit: I was so psyched about Doomsday that I forgot to add how much I love the twist of Zod being his DoomDaddy. Not only is it a wonderful way to explain his human identity... Being a Kryptonian but being a genetic twist of such and therefore working on different rules... But also it really adds a whole 'generational' feel to the impending Clark/Davis battles. They're carrying on the war that their fathers began.
wirebiter
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:09 pm
I'm having trouble putting into words how much I hated most of this episode. I was loving Ollie until he said Clark needs to not let Chloe get involved in all this. Hello, you're just as human as her and seem to think you can keep up. Why was Kara beating up on Clark? Did she forget what he looked like? At least we got some backstory on Doomsday.
Last Time Lord
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:10 pm
I'm just a very casual comic reader, so I need to ask, that's not Comic canon, right?
wirebiter
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:14 pm
Shirtless Davis!!! That was the best part of the episode!!!
I agree.
So Doomie had to be killed before he became invincible?
Bkwurm
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:15 pm
I have never been more grateful to Lois's propensity to get unearned handouts than I am in this episode when via Tess's out of the blue raise Lois is able to get the heck off the farm and thus halt the Lois and Clark live together on the farm storyline. I don't think I could have taken that, but at least I now understand why the promo's said Lois and Clark get closer. They meant proximity.
I was loving Ollie until he said Clark needs to not let Chloe get involved in all this. Hello, you're just as human as her and seem to think you can keep up.
Didn't really make sense. Just because the Kryptonian stuff freaks Ollie out, doesn't mean Chloe can't handle and understand it. She usually understands it better than Clark.
jediknight
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:16 pm
I'm just a very casual comic reader, so I need to ask, that's not Comic canon, right?
He was created on Krypton, just not by Zod.
The line by Zod's wife "That which kills you, makes you stronger.", is comic canon. Doomsday was killed over and over and over and over again, hundreds of times. Doomsday was able to adapt and overcome what killed it before.
wirebiter
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:19 pm
I have never been more grateful to Lois's propensity to get unearned handouts than I am in this episode when via Tess's out of the blue raise Lois is able to get the heck off the farm and thus halt the Lois and Clark live together on the farm storyline.
Yeah, what kind of person doesn't call and make sure that the offer to move in is still being offered?
Greenlady532002
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:20 pm
All I want to know about this episode is: Is Doomsday (my new hero!) now tough enough to kill Clark? Clark is my absolute least favourite character ever in the history of TV, except maybe for Ollie. I loathe Clark. Please. Just tell me Doomsday is going to kill Clark in a dozen horrible ways. That scene I'll watch. That scene I'll record and play over and over again, cheering Doomsday on. And if he kills Ollie too, I'll nominate him for the Nobel Prize in something or other.
Firebunny
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:21 pm
I liked the Ollie/Chloe scenes. And I liked the Clark/Ollie scene at the end. Oh and shirtless Doomsday.
The rest of the episode was pretty forgettable.
Just one question...
When Lois woke up on the train tracks, why couldn't there be a train coming? That would have been perfect.
hodl2003
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:22 pm
One last thing, don't be dissing Def Leppard, Clark.
That can't be said enough! God help me, but I'm a Whitesnake fan, too. (By-product of the 80's...what can I say, I'm an 80's child.) More on the epi later, but it started off kinda hokey and slow, but it ended VERY WELL.
acampbell
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:22 pm
Supes has to have a bunch of girls save him, eh?
I know Lana's irresistible and all, but why was Zod so hot to have kids with her when he already had one?
screamin
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:26 pm
I was loving Ollie until he said Clark needs to not let Chloe get involved in all this. Hello, you're just as human as her and seem to think you can keep up.
Considering he saw her with her eyes gone white and a giant nosebleed, I think I can forgive him for wondering if Chloe is built to handle all the side effects of what she's doing. And yes, she was strong enough to throw him across the room - but still was fragile enough to bleed under the pressure of all that power, so the power doesn't protect her from the consequences of its use. I think it's reasonable to think she might come apart if she uses that power too often.
hodl2003
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:27 pm
I know Lana's irresistible and all, but why was Zod so hot to have kids with her when he already had one?
In all seriousness, that was Brainiac's Plan A...it's been shown on SV that the phantoms use their hosts memories and thoughts. Lex/Lana were 'close' during that time...so, it's no suprise. Since that didn't work out, Brainiac's using Plan B to kill the House of El...pit the two sons against each other in hopes that Clark is killed and Davis/Dooms along with Chloe (I guess) can rebuild Krypton on Earth. That's MHO.
EllyF
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:31 pm
Unreal. So the show is trying to convince us that Chloe isn't strong enough to handle the secret, and that EDLo is. This despite years of Chloe covering for Clark, saving Clark's ass, and generally handling it just fine. Bah.
Paul Servo
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:32 pm
I'm just a very casual comic reader, so I need to ask, that's not Comic canon, right?
Eh, sort of but not exactly. Zod and Ursa did have a kid while in the Phantom Zone, Lois and Clark are raising him.
As said upthread, Doomsday being created by Zod on Krypton is 50% right.
Kandor is
HEAVY canon, and in the comics they just started a major storyline involving it.
This was a decent episode for one that had a lot of Lois. Chloe's troubles are making this a great season (which I hate to say because it means Chloe is having problems)
copycat
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:32 pm
Poor Clark. Nobody will stay with him. I thought he was going to cry when Kara flew off. I thought it was sweet when he told Kara that she was his home. But I suppose it's good that he lives by himself for awhile; he needs to become independent. Superman should be emotionally as well as physically strong.
Wow. Doomsday's mama killed him so that he could come back invincible. I wish she could have hung around longer. Mama/Lois was kinda kickass and less irritating than just plain Lois.
Chloe is awesome once again. How can she go to so much trouble to bring Clark back but lie to herself and him and Jimmy about how she feels about him? Looks like next week she overloads. (Off topic, but where is Gabe? Why would she ask Clark to give her away at her wedding?)
Bkwurm
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:35 pm
I know Lana's irresistible and all, but why was Zod so hot to have kids with her when he already had one?
Mrs. Zod said that they weren't able to have children, since the Mister was all set to have a go with Lana, perhaps baby Doomie was really only wifey's project and Zod just the lucky sperm donor.
This episode was kind of odd. Once again, anvils were a falling and Clois pushed, pushed, pushed, and yet Chloe got multiple reporter call back moments and pretty much saved civilazation....again and we got acknowledgement of the Clark/Chloe parallel (and by extension the Lana/Jimmy parallel) with Oliver's comment about Chloe living Clark's life.
I'm all for Brainiac going bye, bye, but Oliver's command to Clark seemed much broader than fix the infection, it was more like keep the weak widdle girl from playing the big boys game.
Another intersting parallel in this episode is between Chloe and Davis. I think both Chloe and Davis have been experiencing moments when they were not in control of their actions and I think it took something extreme (Davis getting skewered, Chloe powering up Brainiac til her brain bled) to bump the big bads up to the next level.
Darth Pipes
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:39 pm
Awesome!
First off, very cool with the Kandor reference, especially since that is the current storyline for Superman with New Krypton.
Overall, this episode was strong on a lot of levels. We get the backstory for Doomsday. I thought linking him to Zod was strange but from what I've read about DD's backstory, about how he was created, it's a good fit and I can't wait till this storyline comes to a boiling point.
Very nice to see the lovely Laura Vandervoot back on my television screen. It was nice that they finally used her well here. I can't blame her for leaving Clark. I know I would too. After being wasted the last few weeks, Tess was put to good use here. Loved her scene with Lois of Zod. So was Oliver and Brianiac Chloe.
The only thing that annoyed me is this Ode to Lois Lane that TPTB insist on shoving down her throat. The only reason she got that job is because the clone editor wanted to bang her. Honestly, if she were eliminated from the show, I think it would actually improve dramatically. Another point of annoyance was Clark getting another beatdown. He hasn't fared too well against the House of Zod.
butifulyletdown
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:44 pm
Unreal. So the show is trying to convince us that Chloe isn't strong enough to handle the secret, and that EDLo is. This despite years of Chloe covering for Clark, saving Clark's ass, and generally handling it just fine. Bah.
On the surface it would seem so. But I think it is more the opposite. Look at the way Lois was freaking out. She was ready to give up entirely and spouting off about they were going to die there.
While Chloe on the other hand knew what had to be done and didn't stop until it was done.
Now I know it wasn't similar situations but how many times have we seen Chloe in dire situations or even deadly situations, and I can't recall a time she freaked out like that. She always holds up under pressure. Nois not so much. So much for her military instincts.
Overall I give it a below average rating. It lost significant points for the amount of times I heard "Lois & Clark".
But I did find it hilarious when Clark said no one will mess with Lois and Clark and then immediately Nois gets knocked out. I had to play it back a few times. HA!
CityLife
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:47 pm
This episode was just okay. To me, it's really a complete waste to bring Kara only to have her leave again. Well I guess it's better then killing her off. But it was sad to see her go...
What annoyed me the most in the beginning was Lois freaking out of alien abductions, I kept screaming at the TV "Just shut up already!" Then in the end Kara says Lois can handle it! What the fuck ever. What surprised me the most was I could actually stand FaoraLois. Then she was gone and I was again stuck with obnoxious "Because I'm me, HELLO!" Lois. ugh, just go away...
Love SW and the ending was freaking awesome! Chloaic is pretty cool to, a little confusing but still interesting.
"No one messes with Lois and Clark" PLEASE, stop shoving Clois down my throat!!
This made me cringe. Actually all the dumb references to SoInLove!Clois made me want to puke. All I saw was Clark terribly annoyed with Lois, especially in the Phantom Zone, and Lois needing her big brother by her side. How about showing it, not being told to believe it. I don't, never will.
Ganymedeone
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:54 pm
I'm relieved that they managed to bring Kara back and give her a send-off that wasn't necessarily permanent, but didn't require amnesia, power loss, or being trapped somewhere. Cool. And Kandor has always been associated with Comix Supergirl, so good idea there. Faora has far better style than Lois. I hope she took unconscious notes. Chloiac was cool, and Green Arrow's always fun. Sam Witwer makes me want to swim laps, which is what I'm off to do. Fun episode.
Bkwurm
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
What surprised me the most was I could actually stand FaoraLois. Then she was gone and I was again stuck with obnoxious "Because I'm me, HELLO!" Lois. ugh, just go away...
I went for big stretches of time not even thinking of Faora as Lois. ED did well with creating a new persona. Then we get hit over the head with the obnoxious "Because I'm me, HELLO!" and I'm back to wondering how TPTB could possibly not be purposely writing her in such a manner as to make me hate her.
Tess was interesting tonight, but I'm not sure why she WANTS to trust Clark. Why does it matter?
Full Frontal
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:56 pm
"Because I'm me, HELLO!"
It's as predictable as the sunrise at this point. Right when I actually start to feel a little for the character it speaks. And all the positiveness just goes away.
Durq
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:57 pm
An episode of glorious cheesiness, that only needed an appearance by Uncle Zor-El to put it over the top! Loved ED as Faora, especially her scenes with Tess and a very confused Davis.
My favourite part: Oliver asks Clark what he's doing about Brainiac's takeover of Chloe. Clark: "I've tried everything. I've talked with her..." (And after the talking I got tired and decided to forget about it for another few episodes.)
Nice to see LV back. Wish she'd had a few more scenes.
lovesflicks
Nov 6, 2008 @ 9:58 pm
This made me cringe. Actually all the dumb references to SoInLove!Clois made me want to puke. All I saw was Clark terribly annoyed with Lois, especially in the Phantom Zone, and Lois needing her big brother by her side. How about showing it, not being told to believe it. I don't, never will.
Exactly,
CityLifeYou know Clois isn't working when it has to be explained and referenced to every fucking episode. If they were really gelling as a couple that's not needed. But then I'm a Chlarker and Cloomer so I'm biased.
Sam Witwer is so amazing. I think he's just unbelievable as Davis. Thank you, PS3, for getting this wonderfully sexy, talented guy. That was the only good decision you made.
Great to see Kara again too. I missed her and think that she's the bomb right now.
Darth Pipes
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:00 pm
My favourite part: Oliver asks Clark what he's doing about Brainiac's takeover of Chloe. Clark: "I've tried everything. I've talked with her..." (And after the talking I got tired and decided to forget about it for another few episodes.)
That's Clark. Promise to do something one episode, then forget about it the next.
screamin
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:03 pm
That's Clark. Promise to do something one episode, then forget about it the next.
Worry about Kara vanishing into the Phantom Zone one episode, totally forgetting about it for the next 5 or so...
hodl2003
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:03 pm
- Is it too much to wish for some Cless action? Please? Just a pipe dream....I really like TW and CF together most of the time.
- All Clark wanted was to keep Lois away from his secret? That came out of nowhere for me, and I'm pretty content to gloss over the romantic aspects of the show...but WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT!
- Luh-uved the last scene! SW's not hot to me, but his abs certainly are!
- Lois was obnoxious in the DP scene - "dial down the ego" Lois.
Sue Denim
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:04 pm
As far as secret keeping and who is qualified, I think both Chloe and Lois have their points, but I'm going to say that I respect Clark's decision in sharing his secret with Chloe in Arrival and not sharing his secret with Lois in Bloodline.
I thought for sure Lois was going to be told about the secret. I thought that Clark would be forced to tell her. So, if he wasn't forced to tell her, he kept dodging Lois's rightful conclusions, then he certainly wasn't forced to tell Chloe in Arrival.
And overall, I'm pleased with how Kara's character was handled. She was protecting Earth by staying in the PZ. Kara is all sorts of awesome. I hope she finds Kandor and is able to continue the Kryptonian bloodline.
The Collie scene was pretty intense, and Clark's reply, "I can't control her life" seemed lack luster, but I believe Clark was thinking about Chloe's whole life, and being defeated with the horror that is Chimmy. He's agreed to support the Chimmy wedding, but, we know he's not thrilled about it, and what it means to Chlark. That's why I think Clark's reply to Ollie meant more than the Brainiac infection. And, did you notice? Clark did not tell Ollie that Chloe had a meteor infection, although, this may be implied after "Odyssey". Ollie's little tirade to Clark about Chloe seems to make more sense, with both conditions on his mind. Chloe's meteor-infected and Chloe's infected by Brainiac.
Ollie loses points for being a wuss about Clark's Kryptonian heritage, but regains slightly for at least admitting it to Clark (at some level).
"Lois" is the mother of evil, or was I the only one that noticed?
PolarB
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:07 pm
Did Faora call Davis by a Kryptonian name in the initial hospital scene? I thought she did, but I couldn't quite make out what it was.
wingster55
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
I must have missed something but since when did Ollie know about Krypton and that aspect of Clark's life?
DigiKing
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
Once again, the Side!Character!Squad shows up, with its two new members, former main Kara and Faora, to inform us that Clois is MENT2BE. I actually turned to the lady tonight and said "It's like she's Lana or something." The raise, the "strong and tough" nonsense, it's all so bad. The worst part is that they used Kara to pimp Clois.
That's right, to people who haven't watched it,
they used Supergirl to pimp Clois. If there was any doubt that CloneRider = Lana 2.0, this dashes it away. Face it, Nois,
you're perfect.
Other than the specter she cast on the episode, I found it enjoyable. I was terrified that they were going to kill Kara in the PZ, and I didn't even really care for her back in the day. One thing I found something of a head-smacker: Why have Kara go to MM while Clark tried to head off Faora? Wouldn't it make more sense to send Kara after Faora, rather than the man she reviled (who happens to have no powers to protect himself) while Clark goes after the girl he can't exactly defend himself against? Oh, right, but then the S!C!S representative couldn't have pulled her weight.
Davis and Oliver did well tonight, and CF's Mercy has shades of Lex in her. I liked that a lot, as well as her claiming to be on the same side as Clark. I thought she got given the run-around a little too easily though.
And I didn't expect them to out Davis this early, but I guess they need to work up to Bride's cliffhanger or whatever.
Wingster, Oliver at least knew about Clark circa
Odyssey, and it's implied earlier by their dialogue that he knew about the "Control the Traveler" plot, so...yeah.
lovesflicks
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:22 pm
I don't know which is worse for Chloe-infected by Brainiac or being with Jimmy. Either way she loses.
So is Davis not really human? Is he from another planet like Clark? I'm confused since when TakenOverByZod'sWifeLois looked at Davis' picture on the floor she seemed to recognize him. Am I being stupid here or anything?
I'm actually impressed with how ED handled playing that transformation tonight. She wasn't all hyper and dissing Clark. Liked it a lot. She could have stayed that way and I would have considered her a favorite. And I loved when she pushed Clark out the window and onto the truck.
When she said "Tess gave me a raise" with no recollection of the events preceding I laughed. Tess'll be watching her every move and be wary of her for a while. Too bad Lois is back to, well, being Nois because I was thinking a spinoff with her and Tess would be terrific.
This would have been a campy, fun episode if it weren't for the Clois anvils falling like crazy.
Oh, and in addition to seeing SW's glorious pecs we got to see Green Arrow in his TIGHT outfit too. Awesome.
Bkwurm
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:28 pm
I'm still certain that Brainiac reprogrammed the crystal and sent it to Clark, but I wonder if the purpose was to get Chloe to really dig into her power and let Brainiac into her head in a more extreme manner. Clark gets zapped by the crystal and of course Chloe is going to do everything she can to bring him back. In the process, her eyes go white and Brainiac's strength shows up.
Brainiac is a very elegant manipulator. Somehow I think he wants the Doomsday smackdown to happen and so I don't think he ever intended for Clark to stay stuck in the Phantom Zone. Maybe he was also trying to give Faora a chance to escape. He knows he stuck Kara in there, and since Faora hadn't come home in a Supergirl body, he had to assume that Kara was dead or being stubborn about using the escape hatch. (Oh and how nice that Jor-el and Zor-el made exits for their families, but poor Raya was stuck there for what could have been forever. Such egos. Can't let the common folk have a way out)
So Brainiac's plan might have been the assured result of Chloe giving up more control, a slight chance for Kal-el to die in the Zone, and another chance for Faora to cross over. Win, win for the Interactive Brain Construct.
Why have Kara go to MM while Clark tried to head off Faora? Wouldn't it make more sense to send Kara after Faora, rather than the man she reviled (who happens to have no powers to protect himself) while Clark goes after the girl he can't exactly defend himself against?
I wonder if there was deleted scene. Kara and MM had seriously bad blood between them. I can imagine in the course of getting the crystal, the MM getting in a few potshots to remind Kara that she shouldn't be there.
the "strong and tough" nonsense, it's all so bad. The worst part is that they used Kara to pimp Clois.
Kara wasn't so sure that Lois was strong or tough when they were in the PZ. Maybe Lois not wanting to leave before Clark was with them endeared her to Kara a little bit, but that wasn't much of a redemption after all the freaking out and babbling.
One thing I got confused over. I thought that they were just going to send Lois back. Then suddenly it seems like Clark intended to go back all along and Kara no longer cared if Zoners got through the portal too as long as she was able to protect Clark (that part was really sweet).
ratman
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:29 pm
Only one thing to say about this:
GO DOOMS!
Soleil
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:31 pm
So Chloe is Willow. From a naturally smart, normal human to a mystically overloaded sidekick with a curiously chemistry-free ship. Just great.
I thought Possessed!ED was pretty bad. She got slightly better in her scenes with Davis (SW can elevate anyone, I guess), but for the rest of it I felt like she couldn't commit to a voice and characterization. At least they didn't slut her up the way they always did to KK whenever Lana got possessed. Actually, it's kind of funny that they made her look older and... well, MILF-y. Not so iconic, IMO.
Still, counteracting all of that were the usual anvils that follow EDLois around. I just don't understand what the POINT of it is. Even if it is misdirection, it's not enjoyable misdirection. Real misdirection would be having EDLois earn her moments... I can tell you that if I saw an actually qualified EDLois developing, I'd be biting my nails a lot more (instead of bashing my head against the wall).
The Clark/Oliver scene was nice because it was all about Chloe, and hurrah for Oliver for seeming more actively concerned about Chloe's welfare than her supposed BFF. But I'm troubled that all of this is a setup to phase Chloe out of Clark's life. But if so, why draw so much attention to it? If Lois is being lightswitched into ILLness, why not just lightswitch Chloe out of ILL contention? I know that in a way, all of this is a lightswitch, but it's so elaborate and there's so much buildup. This is what confuses me about where the show is heading with these two.
Finally, hurrah for Kara being a real hero. I do wish she could have ripped Clark a new one for not doing a damn thing to look for her. She was trapped in the Phantom Zone and Chloe was infected by Brainiac all because of Clark's damn obsession with Lana.
Bkwurm
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:32 pm
I'm confused since when TakenOverByZod'sWifeLois looked at Davis' picture on the floor she seemed to recognize him. Am I being stupid here or anything?
Faora told Davis that he looks like his father. I think Zod contributed some genetic material.
She also seemed to know about Jor-el and Aunt Louise. I would have thought she'd approve. Louise did get killed at least.
Actually, it's kind of funny that they made her look older [Lois]and... well, MILF-y. Not so iconic, IMO.
I totally agree. I meant to comment on that.
On a less kind note, ED looked pretty haggard in the PZ.
Adela1985
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:35 pm
It's interesting how Faora line about "Like father, like son" made me think of a death anvil for Lois.
We know that Aunt Louisa was killed and one could say because "she wasn't the one" for Jor-El. Could they be saying the same thing for Lois?
Bkwurm
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:36 pm
We know that Aunt Louisa was killed and one could say because "she wasn't the one" for Jor-El. Could they be saying the same thing for Lois?
Jor-el did end up going for the blond.
butifulyletdown
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:37 pm
Points I found interesting about the episode:
1- Chloiac rocks! Chloe is all about getting the job done. She couldn't get in touch with Oliver via phone to help with the problem, so she took the problem to him.
2- Love when Chloe and Tess go head to head. Tess line about blind loyalty stuck out nicely to me. I think they both may have this problems. Also noted, was Chloe's interest in Clark and why she continually protects him.
3- Several reference to Chloe the reporter. Loved it!
4- Nois (though possessed) killed two people. (DP reporter and Davis)
5- Loved, loved loved that Nois (though possessed) is responsible for activating the destroyer. Before he was blacking out, killing people here and there every now and then. Now she's awakened Doomsday, the ultimate unstoppable killing machine. Loved the symbolism of Nois being the death of Clark. hee
6- Loved that Clark is reminded the lengths Chloe will go to and has gone through to save and protect him.
7- Absolutely loved that Tess was impressed with Lois as Faora and gave her a raise. Tess ihas been misinformed and is now convinced that Nois is worthy. Nois is now on Tess' radar. And Nois has an ego the size of the USA. This will get Nois killed when she proves she can't measure up to Tess' expectations. Clark has right to be worried. Nois just got a big bullseye on her back.
Without the anvils still see bro and sis. And without having to stomach the anvils, that interaction is... erm, tolerable at best.
But everything I liked was bludgeoned to death by the consistent anvilicous hits. Sheesh! For the last 4 years it used to be very seldom the would drop and anvil, now it's down pouring in every freakin Nois episode. I think the writers must have some kind of contest many anvils they can drop in one episode. It's intolerable and oh so very blatant. I can't take them seriously.
I stand by mental conditioning. They are trying to mentally condition the non-Clois believers. Brainwashing!
sita102
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:37 pm
Well, not quite. I loved Lois being taken over by Zod's wife. That put her in the same boat as Chloe with having no control over their bodies. I found Lois more tolerable that way and was disappointed when she was back to her old bitchy self.
It amuses me so much that Nois is Davis' Mum. Clark's big sister. *lol* Too funny. It helps soothe the incessant cries I've been reading of how Nois was possessed and Chloe isn't (because Brainiac really doesn't count for some reason) so Nois isn't responsible for anything ever.
And Chloe is the one that Davis is falling for, so as his mirror, Clark shouldn't be far behind :)
Davis can heal from having a pole shoved thru him? Interesting. As usual, SW rocked. He's getting more screentime too.
Yes please. More Davis, less Nois.
I have never been more grateful to Lois's propensity to get unearned handouts than I am in this episode when via Tess's out of the blue raise Lois is able to get the heck off the farm and thus halt the Lois and Clark live together on the farm storyline. I don't think I could have taken that, but at least I now understand why the promo's said Lois and Clark get closer. They meant proximity.
IA. Nois has no idea why she's got the raise, but presumably, being that she's Nois, she's awesome and deserves it. Seriously, I'm supposed to want this boob to be ILL when she all she thinks about is getting more money? Her ego it is massive and undeserved.
lovesflicks
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:41 pm
She was trapped in the Phantom Zone and Chloe was infected by Brainiac all because of Clark's damn obsession with Lana.
Yeah, forgot all about that Soliel . Thanks for the reminder. Back when Clark was saying "Lana is the most important......" every 2 seconds major events happened right under his nose. Shit, damn Clana. Damn Clois too.
Anyway, I was a little, no a LOT pissed at Clark because in all the time Kara was in that hellhole there was no mention of her by him. No signs of him worrying about her life or safety. Then she's there and he's all "I will save you" and "I won't leave you" Well, fine but where was that concern BEFORE dammit. I really think that the writers bungled that storyline so badly. To see Clark being terrified for Kara for maybe 1 episode would have gone a long way to making him look better. It's like Kara was a forgotten character. LV deserves better treatment.
sita102
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:53 pm
"Lois" is the mother of evil, or was I the only one that noticed?
No, I got that too and the wife of an evil General. heh.
Once again, the Side!Character!Squad shows up, with its two new members, former main Kara and Faora, to inform us that Clois is MENT2BE.
So, another psycho thinks CNois is MNT2B?
Yeah, right.
I keep focusing on the Big Bad Doomsday thinking Chlark were meant to be.
When she said "Tess gave me a raise" with no recollection of the events preceding I laughed. Tess'll be watching her every move and be wary of her for a while.
Well, she's got herself in the sights of the resident Luthor, so bring on the dark alley and gun shot sounding in the night. *shrugs*
That "because I'm me" line. UGH.
We know that Aunt Louisa was killed and one could say because "she wasn't the one" for Jor-El. Could they be saying the same thing for Lois?
Huh. That is a very cool catch.
Also, another mention of Chloe and her journalism.
4- Nois (though possessed) killed two people. (DP reporter and Davis)
Ah, who's got her Get out of Jail Free card so she's not repsonsible for anything and so Chloe can be further burned at the stake?
5- Loved, loved loved that Nois (though possessed) is responsible for activating the destroyer. Before he was blacking out, killing people here and there every now and then. Now she's awakened Doomsday, the ultimate unstoppable killing machine. Loved the symbolism of Nois being the death of Clark. hee
That,
beautifulyletdown is a great catch. I didn't think of it like that at all until now.
lovesflicks
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:55 pm
Is it just me or does Clark have more chemistry with both Tess and Chloe than with Lois. If I weren't such a diehard Chlarker I would be shipping the BDA with Mercy after this ep. And I wouldn't need the anvils to spell it out for me either.
CF is just sensational as Tess. She's as good as Rosey was as Lex.
quietone
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:56 pm
Very good episode.
Favorite parts-
Kara: I'm so glad they didn't kill her off and I liked the end scene between Kara and Clark. Nice shot of her flying away.
Doomsday: He gets scarier by the episode. That final scene with the knife was creepy. Could we have more shirtless SW please?
Faora: I thought ED did a good job and she looked great. Nice twist with she and Zod being Doomsday's parents.
Chloe: For the first time this season I was ok with her. She protected Clark's secret from Tess and risked her life to save Clark and Kara.
Ollie: Eh, I admit it. I just like having JH around.
As for Clark not doing anything about Chloe's powers, I really don't know what he's supposed to do about that since Chloe gave him the 'I'm grown' speech and told him to back off. IMO he's trying to respect Chloe's wishes and look out for her the best he can. Even if Clark discovers a way to reverse Chloe's powers I doubt he would force or manipulate Chloe into doing something against her will. I can't see that happening unless something drastic occurs. This is another no-win situation Clark's been put into because when this all shakes out somehow he'll end up blaming himself for the outcome. YMMV
cmirk01
Nov 6, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
Loved anything with Davis/Dooms, more Tess please. Loved the nod to Reporter REALChloe's articles. That's two back to back episodes with Jimmy researching her articles, and tonight's with evil Nois's mention at Isis. Nice.
The bad, using both Kara and Zod's wife to pimp the shit out of Nois. Jesus Christ. Like enough already. This much pimping over something that should come naturally because their "iconic" shouldn't be reiterated like were daft. The real dynamic of "Lois" and Clark doesn't need pimping. Its either there or in this case....needs a reminder. The raise and blatant acknowledgment from Clark that Nois once again can add another freebie card to add to her iconic=moronic collection. Because the idiot said it best, "Because I'm me, HELLO!"
Ugh. Like just shut the fuck up you moron and go act like a damn reporter your trying to emulate in Chloe and be inquisitive and question the out of the blue pay raise.
And I would of preferred more interaction with Kara and Clark without wasting it on filler repetitive dialogue.
The Oliver/Chloe interaction and the shotout to her alias from Justice was awesome! And I totally bought the dynamic between those two. More please?!
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