TWoP Pembleton
Nov 2, 2008 @ 9:48 pm
The seventh week of performances. In addition to performing individually, contestants will take part in team dances.
loveisthedrug
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:33 pm
Wow, they totally stacked the teams in favor of Team Paso. This season is just as predictable as last season. Lame.
tip and fall
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:34 pm
I HATE PROPS. A park bench? WTF? I think that's the most egregious use of dumb props in this show's existence.
Ugh, Derek. I do not need to see you practically stripping on national TV. Take it down by a notch or two or a hundred.
ETA: I couldn't help but smile tonight when I first saw Edyta. I just like her a lot -- I know I say this in pretty much every post about her, but she's such a sweetheart. :) And her choreography didn't annoy me as much tonight as it usually does. When she danced with Jason, sometimes it seemed like her routines moved as slowly as molasses. I caught one or two traditional Edyta-type poses (of course), but it went a lot faster.
Oh, and I did laugh when Cody inadvertently almost caused a wardrobe malfunction.
whiterose23
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:35 pm
Holy crap, Brooke and Derek's foxtrot was absolutely divine. It was beautiful, flawless. In a word, it was perfect. She really looked like a pro during that dance and my excitement kept on building as the dance progressed. I think that might have to be my favorite dance on DWTS ever. It's definitely right up there with the majority of Apolianne's dances and Cheryl and Drew's freestyle. That 30 was very well-deserved.
I thought Cody and Edyta were a bit underscored. I quite liked their waltz and there was some chemistry there. I would have loved it if Julianne was there but Edyta did a very good job with the choreography. Kudos to her for coming in and putting on a great show. It must be tough for Cody to have to adjust to a new partner. I just hope he survives another week so that Julianne can come back. I can't believe they're in the bottom, gah. Time to go vote my ass off.
The team dances were good. I want them to be a permanent part of the show but only during this stage of the competition with six couples left. Team Paso was smoking hot. On paper, they were the superior team and it showed tonight. Tight dancing and great solos. Too bad about Team Cha Cha. Susan was the weak link there.
Tom was on fire tonight. Love him!
Lastly, this show really
loves John Mayer, doesn't it? How many of his songs been performed on this show now?
The producers deliberately stacked one team ...
I thought the voiceover guy said that Susan and Warren were picked as team captains and it was up to them to choose which couple they wanted in their teams?
Tasya
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:36 pm
My favorite dance of the night was the Rhumba with Lacey and Lance, I don't care what Len had to say, I thought that the shoeless state fit the dance and the music. They also preformed it beautifully. My least favorite dance was Warren and Kym's Foxtrot, atrocious. He looked like a stumbling, bumbling mess.
The team dances went exactly the way I knew they would. The producers deliberately stacked one team and the only redeeming thing about team Cha-Cha was Lance and Lacey and Tony.
I'd rather see Lance and Lacey in the finale than any Paso team other than Brooke/Derek. Even though I find Brooke a dead bore, she's a beautiful dancer.
Rock2483
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:37 pm
I thought Cody and Edyta were a bit underscored. I quite liked their waltz and there was some chemistry there.
This wasn't my favorite dance of theirs; however, it definately deserved to be scored higher than Susan.
spanana
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:37 pm
The group dances were an interesting idea, but I thought it would be easier to compare if they were doing the same dance. Yes, the paso was far better than the cha cha, but I would have been more interested if it was paso vs. paso. Len did have a point about it being harder to cha cha in unison than do a paso type march.
Not surprised the Paso group kicked ass though. No Susan. Both Warren and Brooke have already done Paso and done well with it. I thought it was a smart idea to sandwich Maurice in the middle. Maurice wasn't very good in his solo part IMO, but he had the energy so it wasn't as noticeable as Susan pulling down the other group. Plus the Paso group just had the better choreographers and celebs who seemed more interested in working as a team.
We might as well say goodbye to Susan now. Even Cody might be in some danger considering the differential between the group dance scores. I can't imagine Maurice is going anywhere.
I liked Lance/Lacey in the cha cha, but thought the barefoot rhumba was just a stupid idea on Lacey's part. She had to know Len would hate it ahead of time. It doesn't do you a whole lot of good to get high scores from two judges being counteracted by a third. I wouldn't mind if I thought the barefoot-ness had a point other than to piss Len off.
tjames
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:37 pm
Wow, they totally stacked the teams in favor of Team Paso
ITA. Susan ought to be sent home this week just for allowing Warren to grab the three best choreographers left on the show.
jonaswan2
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:39 pm
Wow, they totally stacked the teams in favor of Team Paso. This season is just as predictable as last season. Lame.
Susan and Warren picked the people in their teams, so we can't say that.
But Team Paso did have the easier dance to do as a group and the better music. :) It's okay because Lance and Lacey's pure sexiness made up for that whole Cha Cha incident. ;)
Tasya
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:41 pm
I don't buy that Susan and Warren picked those teams with no producer influence.
buckeyegirl1978
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:41 pm
If the voting is fair, then Susan Lucci should go home. Its extremely painful to watch her dance especially in the team dance. I really wonder in which order Susan&Warren picked their teammates but I guess it does not matter when Lucci being team 1 captain was the weakest link. Brooke&Derek are clearly the frontrunners in the competition. Lacey&Lance are a distant second.
Chocolyric
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:41 pm
I threw most of my votes to Cody. I want to see him dance with Julianne one more time, and plus I thought the judges were too hard on them. They did a fine job for their first dance. I love Maurice as a person, but at least Cody is trying his best with the technique while Maurice's posture still isn't very good.
Brooke/Derek had the best dance of the night, and the best dance of the season.
spanana
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:41 pm
I missed the part about the celebs picking the teams. Either way it was going to be unfair in that they wanted one woman celeb on each team, so someone was going to get Brooke and the other was going to get Susan. Not exactly an even trade.
J T
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:42 pm
Warren is entertaining and should be around for longer, but he has his limitations. The best thing about him is how much he enjoys himself with every aspect of DWTS. Such a happy guy, it’s hard to resist.
Susan just ALWAYS seems to be tentative when she dances, tonight was painful to watch. And I like Susan Lucci, but it may be time for her to go.
Maurice is having lots of fun too, and this was a much better dance for him. Anything fast moving is better for him. He’s still in for now.
Cody is doing well and tonight was good, but his ability is limited. He may do better when he matures a bit. Right now, he mostly dances like a kid. A talented kid, but still.
Lance is doing very well; he’s got lots of natural ability. And I liked tonight's dance, so good choreography by Lacey. BUT, it’s too bad Lacey is so immature and over confident. It’s distracting. Poor Lance. I hope he does not pay for having her as his partner.
Brooke is still the lock to win. Unless her injury gets worse, she should and will be in the final. That was a very lovely dance for her tonight.
Team Cha Cha was OK, not too horrible. Carri Anne is right that the unison was way off. Lance and Cody both did well compared with Tony, but poor Susan was SO much of a mess compared to Lacey and Edyta. She was lost all the time. The scores were pretty much representative of what we saw.
Team Paso just blew their doors off. Loved the costumes, loved the way they danced together. Only a few seconds of weakness from Maurice, otherwise quite good. I just wished that the solo part for Brooke and Derek was longer.
Sadly, I hope Susan is the one to go this week.
And because it can't be said enough, Tom is the BEST part of this show.
sab85
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:42 pm
I still feel like Susan is dancing, maybe not tentatively, but certainly not forcefully. It could just be that she's so small that she can't get up the force the others can but she really seems to be lacking for this point in the competition. And she seemed very lost in the cha cha without Tony right beside her, they cut to her once as they were getting into one of their formations and she was looking off to the side seemingly unsure of what to do. I don't know if it's lack of rehearsal time or what but she often doesn't seem to have the moves down.
Lance and Lacey, I'm with Len I didn't get it either, and I don't mean the lack of shoes (though that did bug me). It just didn't feel like a rumba to me. I don't mean the steps, they seemed fairly traditional, I mean the overall feeling and mood of the dance. I did like what they did, it just felt like the connection was missing somehow, something they normally don't have a problem with. I think the main thing is they did a lot of dancing apart, lots of side-by-side or spaced apart dancing, and rumbas generally seem more close and connected to me. And WTF was with the park bench?
Brooke and Derek finally got their 30 and I thought they deserved it. Lovely, lovely dance.
Tom was on fire tonight, think he thinks up zingers all week for Len?
Thought the group paso was much better, but then just looking at the teams I expected it to be. I honestly thought both dances were fun. I was happy the Cha chas did the partner switching so that Susan danced with both Cody and Lance, something the Pasos were missing.
Oh, and I noticed that they managed to keep Cloris away.
ETA: I didn't realize that Cody was scored lower than Susan. WTF? I thought there dance was good and their connection very good for only having been together a week. It's got to be difficult to come in and work with someone you're unaccustomed to, not knowing their strengths, weaknesses, attitude, etc. and try and pull off a Week 7 dance. Even in the first week couples have generally been practicing together upwards of a month.
harvestbasket
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:44 pm
Maurice did well today and I was disappointed by Warren for the first time today. Lacey/Lance's rumba and the bench? That prop was as useless as Mark/Kristi's umbrella in the v. waltz. No, more useless. I thought it was unnecessary and not sure why Lacey went with the barefoot rumba. Lacey was channeling her inner-Mia. If anything, it seemed as thought the shoes would have been better for Lance. Also, no more John Mayer. John and Rihanna must have okayed their entire catalog. I loved Brooke's foxtrot and finally see more improvement on her performance side.
The group dances were an interesting idea, but I thought it would be easier to compare if they were doing the same dance.
ITA. I loved the idea of the group dance and watching the paso, I thought it was a good idea since it was done well. But they really stacked team paso. Not only do the three celebs get along so well, but the pros worked well together. Derek working with Maurice and Warren as well and both Kym and Cheryl working with Brooke. The group seemed tighter (not just in terms of dancing).
Dave Scott in results show!
Did Susan really pick that team? Or was she in NYC when they chose the teams and Warren took Maurice and Brooke first.
buckeyegirl1978
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
I don't buy that Susan and Warren picked those teams with no producer influence.
I do not know Warren's team seemed super tight during rehearsal and after the dance. They really seemed like one big group of friends especially in contrast to Team Lucci so maybe friendships influenced the decisions.
sussudio
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
I wasn't so fond of the team dance until I saw Team Paso. They totally gel as a team and did a great job. But Len has a great point about paso being a better team dance than the cha-cha.
I thought Derek and Brooke's foxtrot was great but there's something missing for me. Brooke was gorgeous but I don't know what it is..there's something that's missing. I actually love Kristi and Mark's first foxtrot more than Brooke and Derek's.
I felt bad for Cody and Edyta. I also thought they were a little underscored. I have to give props for Cody dancing with Edyta. I thought they had some chemistry. Actually my husband thinks that Cody has a huge crush on Edyta. He said that throughout the entire dance. I thought that was interesting.
I really hope that Susan goes home. At first I thought Toni was being a little too mean during the rehearsal package, but then he's right. She didn't come out of her shell at all. Susan really got defensive when he said that. Susan, you are still reserved to me and therefore you should go home.
Husband and I were shocked to see Lance's six-pack during the Team Cha-cha dance. Wow.
Also, does Lacey have a crush on Lance? I don't know why she was being emotional. I didn't really see Lance as being negative. For the most part, he's always been supportive of Lacey and has defended her. Maybe there's more to the package than I saw.
MeeMaw
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:46 pm
I understand the thinking behind the group dance, but in practice I don't think it works. It just seems wrong to me that Cody and Lance should be punished for being on the same team as Susan and having her poor dancing penalize them in the overall scoring. By the same token, Maurice really benefited from getting the big score produced by Warren and Brooke. Both end results just seem wrong to me.
I've been in Brooke's corner all season, but she really blew me away tonight. What a completely gorgeous fox trot.
ToothbrushFence
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:49 pm
I am so sick of Lacey. Her whining about not making Lance happy all the time - what the hell was that? And the park bench and shoelessness were silly affectations, IMO (especially the park bench). I thought that rumba had no passion, and I don't see why most of the judges loved it so much.
I really loved Brooke's dance. Hopefully doing two dances this week won't aggravate her foot too much. The foxtrot was absolutely beautiful.
Things don't look good for Cody and Susan - I have to think Cody is in the most jeopardy, because he has the lower score and (I am assuming) doesn't have Susan's fanbase. But maybe he will get some sympathy votes? It was nice to see Edyta - she is so sweet, and she looked so happy and proud of Cody.
montferrat
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:49 pm
I agree that Susan single handedly ruined that group cha-cha-cha. I guess we've learned that she can't dance in groups.
Len can fuck right off about Lance and Lacey's rhumba. That is the first time I've ever actually enjoyed a rhumba on this show.
{tinfoil hat} Also...we were treated to close-ups # 9,778 and 9,779 of Mr. Brooke Burke tonight. We've had no close-ups of any of the other celebs' significant others the whole season. Just mid distance group shots. I wonder what that means? Is a cameraman in lust with him or is this (un)subtle pimping? {/tinfoil hat}
I think Brooke winning has been a foregone conclusion since week 1. At least she can dance her ass off, but it sure makes for a predictable season.
Husband and I were shocked to see Lance's six-pack during the Team Cha-cha dance. Wow.
Right? I was like..."I'll be damned! He's got a great body!" For some reason I always thought he'd be doughy.
bluvelvet
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:49 pm
Loved the Paso doble, actually thought Maurice was the weak link there. I also think that he and Cheryl messed up on a step in their solo, but I would have to rewatch to confirm.
I also really enjoyed the cha-cha even with the sync problems and the very obvious fact that Susan was lost. I give her credit as she was with two female celebs.
I think at this point Brooke should win, even though I am not really feeling her. Lance is improving as the weeks go on and Lacey is looking softer and not so harsh. The park bench made me laugh as it reminded me of the one from the sister show SYTYCD, same with the music to Cody's VW.
At this point, I think it's Susan's time to go.
I guess we've learned that she can't dance in groups.
Yep, rememeber the group hip hop. I will cut her some slack though, she probably doesn't have as much rehearsal time as the others given her regular daytime job.
Tasya
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:52 pm
I think that Lance is extremely needy. It has been noted that he seems to need a lot of reinforcement and positivity. She specifically said that she's tired of having to be happy and pull him up 24/7. That fits exactly with what i've observed about Lance, he just seems to NEED a lot.
O2Sean
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:53 pm
I HATE HATE HATE Len on Strictly Come Dancing this season, but I don't mind him on DWTS this season (after hating him last year, with all the Mario bashing). I agreed with him about the Lancey barefoot bench dance. It was a lot of pointless artifice. Was she trying to rip off the Travis/Heidi bench routine on SYTYCD?
Susan still moved very slowly, but she seemed to be acting the part more than she has in previous weeks. Tony managed to do most of the dancing and choreographed a fiery paso, probably one of the better pasos this season. I know Susan's probably going, and she looks so painfully thin she may be better off going, but this was a good dance to leave on. She should be proud. I was very put off by Carrie Ann making her stand in front of the judges and say she was good enough. Stop the self-help stuff. Stuart Smalley is running for the Senate in Minnesota, he's not a DWTS judge.
I wasn't as into the cha cha from Maurice and Cheryl, because he seemed to be in pain. They did a good job though. The oddest part for me was that Len described them as "cheap jewelry" yet gave them a nine.
Fox trot, like rumba, was not a dance suitable for Warren. He seemed to falter early on. Still, not bad, and the weird attempt at a seal booing sound, plus Bruno having his own little coming out/La Cage joke, made up for it. And seeing Nick Kossovich again. Yay Nick!
Speaking of coming out, was Cody trying to tell us something in his Pink Ladies jacket and then the bright yellow flannel shirt? Edyta did seem to bring out a calmer side to him which he desperately needed. I agreed with the judges about his VW, but that's how he's always been, why are they suddenly put off now? I wish they'd given Edyta more praise, because aside from his inappropriate grinning, this was one of his better dances.
spanana
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:53 pm
I understand the thinking behind the group dance, but in practice I don't think it works. It just seems wrong to me that Cody and Lance should be punished for being on the same team as Susan and having her poor dancing penalize them in the overall scoring. By the same token, Maurice really benefited from getting the big score produced by Warren and Brooke. Both end results just seem wrong to me.
I know what you mean, but I didn't think Cody was that hot in the cha cha either. Though he wasn't bad. I do think in part choreography is what did them in, whereas even though Maurice was the weakest part of Team Paso the dance itself seemed like more of a group effort. The choreography was better and as Cheryl was probably a part of that, I think it's fair. In a way it goes back to whether it's fair or not that some pros are just better choreographers than others, or at least better choreographers in terms of this show.
mtlchickie
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:54 pm
I am so sick of Lacey. Her whining about not making Lance happy all the time - what the hell was that? And the park bench and shoelessness were silly affectations, IMO (especially the park bench).
The bench reminded me way too much of one of the most beautiful dancers ever on
SYTYCD. However, the crying jag followed by the next day makeup just reeked of "Look at me! ACTING!" (tm Jon Lovitz.) At least I learned that Lance? Finally got a body underneath. Who knew?
Susan is pretty much hosed (the cha cha did her no favors) but who cares about that. Dancecenter returns in 2 days!
rulesoftravel
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
I don't see why Lacey should have known Len would hate a barefoot rhumba-I think that's a dance that should be done barefoot. He wanted entertainment-that was entertaining. I loved it. I liked the park bench-I liked the effortlessness flow of the dance. I am so on team L&L!
That's my favorite rhumba for the last two seasons. The only one I liked more was Sabrina and Mark's.
Tasya
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
I thought the choreography for the cha cha was fine, it was just preformed badly by Susan and also Cody. Susan was leagues behind Lacey and Edyta and Cody was behind Tony and Lance. I thought the vision for the dance was there it just didn't turn out well. Put Brooke in Susan's spot and how different does the dance look, a ton.
loseresque
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:57 pm
I felt really bad for Lance and Lacey to be stuck in that cha-cha team when they danced it so well so I voted for them. I didn't think it was right that they had weaker "partners" and a harder-to-synchronize dance style. I really like the two of them and hope they make final 3.
Brooke and Derek are amazing and will probably win. They were especially exciting to watch in the paso.
harvestbasket
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:57 pm
Susan really needs to leave on Wednesday. Her absence probably impacted the group effort as well. Just comparing rehearsal footage with the edit that the producers give, I felt no what team paso danced, it would be better. They just gelled and it showed in the overall performance. I was surprised Tony was not leading the rehearsals, but then I remembered he was in NYC with Susan. I also hated Carrie Ann and all that self-help stuff with Susan. While not loving Lacey on DWTS, Lance seems like one needy partner.
I agree, Tasya that the choreography for the cha cha was fine. Put anyone but Susan in that cha cha and it vastly improves.
Loved seeing Nick again!
While Lance does seem to be improving, I did not think the rumba was that inventive or interesting. I thought Apolo/Julianne's rumba with the chair was better. YMMV as I thought Mel/Maks, Apolianne and Jennie/Derek's rumba as well as Stacy/Tony's rumba were better than Lance/Lacey's tonight. Julianne at moments bugs, but she is still a favorite for me and I really missed her tonight. Though we did get a little glimpse of her. I think Cody will benefit a lot from sympathy votes.
That team paso brought the entertainment I missed all season. Between that and Brooke's foxtrot, dance wise it was finally better tonight. I admit bias because team paso had my three favorite pros and my top 3 favorite celebs, but I just loved seeing three celebs who are not entertainers or dancers perform and entertain.
Warren is limited (I fear his jive), but I think he gets what DWTS is about and is a lock for the finals. I love watching him dance.
Aside from David Charvet, great seeing Jeffrey Ross, Kathy G. and Topanga! Best part? No Clorky!
montferrat
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:58 pm
I agreed with him about the Lancey barefoot bench dance. It was a lot of pointless artifice.
Eh... for me personally, the 4 seconds on the park bench were outweighed by the other 1 minute and 30 seconds of a really great and, yes, sexy, rhumba.
Fable
Nov 3, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
I liked tonight's show better than anything so far this season, but I wasn't expecting to. I thought both team dances were good, but I wish they would just go back to old-style DWTS. Everything this season has just been weird. Hip-hop, new dance styles, team dances, not to mention the other things the producers couldn't control, like the injuries and illnesses that took players out of the game. Please DWTS, go back to the show you were - this season is just not that great!
On a side note, I didn't want to like Lance and Lacey tonight, but I did! Loved Brooke and thought Maurice was great. The others not so much.
I think Susan's personality just bores me because I really didn't see anything terrible about her dancing. Cody looks wooden to me and Warren, although I love the personality he brings to his routines, sadly can't seem to dance.
spanana
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:00 pm
I didn't get the Lacey/Lance theatrics either. I realize we get a snippet and that might have been acted on the part of a certain pro, but they haven't shown Lance being all that negative. He talked about not being able to dance barefoot and considering he had a bum toe, I think he had a valid point. I understand Lacey telling him to shut up if it was a dance that required one to be barefoot and he was trying to get out of doing part of what the dance actually requires, but that wasn't the case. Plus yes, the bench was pointless.
I did think Cody seemed way more focused in his rehearsal package with Edyta, but maybe he was just by virtue of knowing he had a new partner and etc. Or maybe Edyta just brings that at being slightly older and more of a serene presence than Julianne.
O2Sean
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:00 pm
I thought Derek and Brooke's foxtrot was great but there's something missing for me. Brooke was gorgeous but I don't know what it is..there's something that's missing.
That's how it is every week with me. They're just...there.
I wonder if they threw the book at Cody this week because they can't when he's with Julianne, since she's one of their stars. They don't seem to have a lot of respect for Edyta.
I was glad Alec and Jeffrey Ross (her celebrity this season) were there to support her.
Eh... for me personally, the 4 seconds on the park bench were outweighed by the other 1 minute and 30 seconds of a really great and, yes, sexy, rhumba.
All I managed to notice was the bench, and his ugly hairstyle. I never get any sexual chemistry between them, or much chemistry of any kind. I think she wanted to hide that with all the props and gimmicks, and she did succeed to some degree. To me it just seemed out of place.
jennifer6973
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:01 pm
Also, does Lacey have a crush on Lance? I don't know why she was being emotional. I didn't really see Lance as being negative. For the most part, he's always been supportive of Lacey and has defended her. Maybe there's more to the package than I saw.
I believe she said that in the first show that Lance was her favorite of the *NSYNC boys.
Also, does Lacey have a crush on Lance? I don't know why she was being emotional. I didn't really see Lance as being negative. For the most part, he's always been supportive of Lacey and has defended her. Maybe there's more to the package than I saw.
I saw that too, plus I think they messed up on their slide, it looked all kinds of awkward
Tasya
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:01 pm
Based on the season so far, potential and what I saw tonight, the final two should most definitely be Brooke/Derek and Lance/Lacey. The third spot is a toss up because imo no one else is all that great. I get that Warren is a favorite but he is not a good dancer in my opinion. He always looks like exactly what he is, a big heavy guy just learning ballroom. I also thought that we saw a hint of his butthole personality come out when he was criticized on his foxtrot. His "my shoes" bit was so blah.
AwNutz
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:02 pm
they cut to her once as they were getting into one of their formations and she was looking off to the side seemingly unsure of what to do. I don't know if it's lack of rehearsal time or what but she often doesn't seem to have the moves down
Honestly, that was her in the "hip hop" routine last week, too. If you watch her, she's frequently doing it even in her regular dances. I think she's got a problem with memorizing the steps, period. It just doesn't come naturally to her. They talked about Rocco's lack of musicality, well, I don't think Susan's really all that musical, either. I would think that being a performer she'd know how to just put on a character and fake it, as we've seen many of the actors and actresses do, but she just can't do it. It's like playing Erica Kane is the only role she knows outside of herself. I knew that team was screwed with her on it.
That said, Len was right about the paso being easier to do in synch over a cha-cha. Syncopation is a bitch. I used to hate it when I played piano. You get the least little bit off, and everything is just crap. And you just knew Susan was going to lose the timing. Oddly, though, I don't know they'd have done much better if it had been the paso. I felt like Susan's paso was done by someone who wants to be a ballerina trying to do paso interpreted through ballet. It lacked any passion or aggression from her.
The team paso was awesome. What they really had over team cha-cha was the feel and aggression of the dance. What they did they executed beautifully. Well, God help me, except for Maurice, who just kind of clomped flat-footed around the floor during his solo. Cheryl was VERY smart in having them be the second solo, as it gave the judges a good paso and a great paso solo on each side to kind of help them forget his clompiness.
Elsa
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:04 pm
This show always feels contrived but it seemed worse than usual tonight, for me. I'm a bit worried about Brooke's vote count, what with the 30 and with the huge disparity between the groups. See, I would have expected closer scores, regardless of the quality of the team-dances, just out of courtesy and not making it look like a celeb let a team down. And I thought Cody and Edyta's cha cha was pretty darned good and Lancey's was great! So they could have said that, complained a little, and given them a point or two less than the other team -- but they went into overkill. And it seemed rude -- like singling Susan out for "ruining" the team dance -- plus they had her commenting on being in New York and having to catch up in rehearsal and then she mentioned it again after the dance. Oh well, I'm such a grassy knoller, but so much seemed fake tonight in the judges' comments. This is the part of the season where I think they really rev up the micromanaging and they're really squeezing the life out of the show, imo.
Oh well, I thought Cody deserved much better marks -- and I felt Brooke was tentative in her "perfect" 30. I thought Susan was better than usual though tentative isn't a strong enough word for her, well, feebleness I guess. Still, I didn't find her effort tonight any worse than her Paso (or Tango?) - well whatever she did last week. She is the worst of the lot, though, and should go -- however, then it's 4 men and 1 woman, and I'm still fuming about Toni being booted :( Especially since the judges never gave her any propping while they go overboard with others. Just damn. It was nice to see Alec in the audience though. And did I see Roseanne Barr there? Wonder if she's on the short-list for next time. Her and Al Sharpton! Those two I'd look forward to seeing, for sure :)
Oh now I remember. The bare feet. All that seemed ridiculously contrived, too. And who gives a fig? I thought his bare feet drew attention to his pigeon-toed-ness, myself, and I'm with Len, just silly and pointless. Though I feel like the judges' were scripted in their comments -- maybe to get us to finally remember Lance is a frontrunner? Oh I don't know and I'm too cynical for this mess, so never mind me. I'll try to whisper this.... i miss cloris.
ordinaryangel
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:04 pm
rulesoftravel, IA with your whole post. I'm really getting sick of Len finding something always wrong with L&L. And seriously, my jaw dropped when I saw Lance shirtless. Seriously didn't think he was hiding that body under his clothes. Wow. Just. Yeah.
Poor Cody. A different partner and he winds up in last place.
Susan needs to go. NOW.
Also,
I thought Derek and Brooke's foxtrot was great but there's something missing for me. Brooke was gorgeous but I don't know what it is..there's something that's missing.
That's how it is every week with me. They're just...there.
Me three. She's a beautiful dancer, but there's no personality from her. Even during the Team Paso, she had this creepy blank look on her face. Like, "feel" something, Brooke! Anger, passion--anything, but not a poker face!
spanana
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:06 pm
I don't see why Lacey should have known Len would hate a barefoot rhumba-I think that's a dance that should be done barefoot.
Maybe the more knowledgeable ballroom folks can comment, but I don't think it's a dance that is danced barefoot in the competitive world and in seven seasons of DWTS this is the first time a couple has chosen to dance barefoot. So at the very least Lacey knew it wasn't the norm and would be open to criticism. If Len is more of a ballroom traditionalist, I don't think it was much of a stretch to guess he wouldn't like it. I was pretty sure what Len would say from the second the rehearsal package started.
I'm really getting sick of Len finding something always wrong with L&L.
Len had nothing but positive comments for Lacey and Lance's cha cha.
weezer95
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
I thought Derek and Brooke's foxtrot was great but there's something missing for me.
ITA...Actually, I wouldn't even call it great. I'm just not seeing where everyone is so in love with Brooke and thinks she's soooo fabulous. She pretty much bores me to tears and this week was no exception.
But nothing comes close to the horror that was Lucci tonight. I didn't think she could get much worse than doing last week's hip hop, but alas I was wrong and she was all sorts of a mess yet again. I feel so bad for her fellow cha cha cha'ers as they didn't have a snowball's chance in anything with her falling all over the place.
And on a totally random note, can someone please please please buy a mirror for that singer who insists on wearing the ugly little head pieces every week. Does she not have any friends or family to tell her how truely ridiculous she looks?! UGH!!!
lovemaks
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:10 pm
Len was right, rumba is done in heels for reason. This is not SYTYCD. The dances are ballroom. This is the second time they danced without ballroom shoes. Not fair for everyone else to have to wobble on them and break/sprain their ankles. lol
I hate the direction the show is taking with contemporary.
L/L were the best in Team Cha Cha. I just can't get over hating Lacey and her mugging look at me attitude. Sorry.
Cody did OK
Team Paso was spectacular. Derek and Brooke good. From day one she looked like she knew how to dance, must be a natural.
yosemite209
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:10 pm
If TPTB didn't have a hand in stacking the dance teams in favor of the paso team, then Warren deserves his Super Bowl ring for being able to choose that team. While I agree w/ Len that it's easier for the marching vs. the latin blah blah, team paso blew away the other team. Not even close.
I'm no Lacey fan, but I thought the bare feet went wonderfully w/ the dance- they were playing young & in love, foot loose & fancy free, so-to-speak. Len needs an enema.
La Lucci must go tonite. While I'd rate her even w/ Cody overall, I'm giving him the edge because he did have a new partner (welcome back Edyta!) Susan just doesn't dance into the floor at all, & it really annoys me.
Brooke & Derek- absolute perfection; possibly my all-time fave dance EVER on the show. In fact, I'll go as far to say that IMO, Brooke is the most talented 'star' they've ever had on the show. I love watching her dance. 30 wasn't a high enough score tonite.
Tom was brilliant tonite; IMO the best host on reality TV. Just a joy.
And Dance Center is coming! The highlight of the entire season for me is coming on Wednesday! Yipee!!!
harvestbasket
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:10 pm
I agree Tasya about the final 2 and I think the third will be Warren.
That's how it is every week with me. They're just...there.
Not me. Not perfect every week, but I think she is improving on the performance side. She is not an actress or performer. I think she is finally breaking through there. During the team paso, I saw a lot of smiles from her between the "serious face". Mileage varies of course because I never thought Stacy was as big of a cold fish as Len called her or that Kristi was robotic last season. I actually forgot her foot was injured tonight compared to last week where it seemed evident her movement was a bit clipped.
The producers had a lot of dumb ideas this season, but that team dance was a good idea. I just wished it was not so lopsided. Next time maybe have them dance the same dance. I think the show wants Susan out by putting her in the middle. Whether the producers want her out or not, she should be the next one out. Great job Tony with Susan. She seems to be a bit difficult and I think he is doing his best to bring her out of her shell.
Tasya
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:12 pm
I don't really have a problem with Len's comments to L/L about the Rhumba, even though I thought the dance was fab without shoes and I didn't agree with him. I have to believe that they knew Len wouldn't like it, but CA and Bruno made up for his score anyway. He also praised them highly in the cha cha, which I was glad to see. Also Lacey has taken some flak for being the worse of the female pros and I thought that she definitely showed tonight that she can dance just as well as most of them (sans Karina of course).
SereneBeing
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:16 pm
I figure Warren got first choice and picked Brooke. Susan would have then picked Lance and Lacey, leaving Warren to choose between Maurice and Cheryl and Cody without Julianne. (No contest there to my mind.)
It all came down to Susan. She really is completely atrocious anytime it comes to Latin, but what gets me is how she seems incapable of using her acting skills to...IDK...help herself. I mean, so what if she's an itty bitty thing who can't stomp her foot with force? Surely she should be able to ACT like she stomped her foot. But...no. Poor thing, it's bad enough she couldn't dance on a beat to save her life, but beyond that she just looks so fragile all the time.
OTOH, if this was any other (non-Cloris) season, she would have been recognized as the "old" lady in the pack from the git go.
rulesoftravel
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:17 pm
She's a beautiful dancer, but there's no personality from her. Even during the Team Paso, she had this creepy blank look on her face. Like, "feel" something, Brooke! Anger, passion--anything, but not a poker face!
I saw something completely different than a blank expression. Both she and Derek were smiling w/ pure joy-maybe not suitable to the drama of the dance , but very contagious. I loved her in that dance.
GoSoccerMandy
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:20 pm
Perhaps I blinked, but when did they show Alec on screen? I saw Jeff Ross a few times...might have to catch the replay again during the west coast feed.
O2Sean
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:31 pm
They showed Jeff, Corky, and Alec sitting together early in the show. Kathy Griffin was on Jeff's other side.
I didn't think the group cha cha was as bad as the judges claimed. Oddly enough I actually liked Edyta/Cody the most (not a big Cody fan). They had some sex appeal, which surprised me, and seemed to have the most musicality. Susan was very timid, and Lance kept making goofy faces while being out of sync. He also looked like the spray tan wasn't properly applied to his chest. I thought the judges went overboard in trying to prop up Lance and Lacey.
troubleinmind
Nov 3, 2008 @ 10:35 pm
Brooke and Derek really were fantastic tonight in both dances. I also liked Lance and Lacey. I thought Warren messed up the foxtrot, even though I love him usually, but, his attitude and commitment to the group Paso were great.
I think Susan sucks. I'm sorry to say it, but, I still think she looks wooden and off-step with no musicality and she single-handedly did mess up that entire chacha. There is always a shot of her looking like a deer caught in the headlights.
Cody and Edyta weren't that bad in it and I thought they weren't bad in the waltz though she did most of the heavy lifting. I definitely wouldn't have scored Susan higher than them.
Maurice and Cheryl? They're trying. I thought he was better tonight than usual.
What I enjoyed most was the Paso group and the fun they had. I loved that group dance! Everyone really did seem to be in unison, not "on Unisom".