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A psychotic jeweler abducts Chloe and Jimmy and subjects them to a kryptonite-enhanced polygraph; while searching for them, Clark and Lois pose as a couple.


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Brawi
It was as if a million Chlark fans cried out at once ... and were suddenly silenced.
mjgchick
I have no words. Just the worst and useless episode ever.
scout1279
"Statistically it's the safest way to travel"? They no that's the exact thing people hated about Superman Returns, right? Well, that and Lois...


Oh, and I love Tess.
Powrhug
Oh.my.freakin.lord!

So the whole point of the lie-detector-man-episode was so that the writers could say "No really. See? Chloe even said it while attached to a lie detector. She really does love Jimmy and only Jimmy. Really."

Just like how last week it boiled down to hot-alien-comes-to-planet just so she could reveal Lois and Clark are destined to be together.

We've now gone to entire episodes where the only point is to make sure we all know Chloe doesn't love Clark but Lois does.

Fun times.

I know, why don't we do it again next week?
Firebunny
I miss my show.

This isn't Smallville anymore. I wish they wouldn't insist on calling this new show by the same name.

At least somethings haven't changed. Lois is still an alcoholic.

And Tom Welling has got some guns on him. Flex it baby. Flex it.
Bkwurm
This episode should be the final reason for me never to watch again, can’t say for certain it will be as I am a pretty optimistic person and Jimmy’s line “I’m not who you think I am” seems pretty suspicious and a call back to the Fever letter which of course instantly reminds me of Chlois, but this isn’t being kicked after being down, it is getting shot in the head. It’s Smallville’s one two punch. I had this feeling it would happen this way, but being right isn’t what I wanted.

I also hate how the Lois/Ollie thing is just being ignored. Lois regrets letting him go and he is jumping Tess. So that whole speech about never having regret about leaving someone behind before was just a line? Everyone’s history is being rewritten this year. Like Chloe suddenly being hung up on secrets. The girl thrived on secrets and being on the know. Chloe is not Lana.

I knew this was going to go badly the moment Lois woke up in Clark’s jersey. Nothing can be Chloe’s alone. Chloe, once under the influence dressed up in Clark’s Jersey, so Lois has to do the same thing.

It's like this episode was only written to drive Chlark fans away. There were a couple subtle things like a spotlight shining on the bowl of orbs in Isis and like I said earlier, Jimmy using Chloe's Fever letter line, but I don't know if I can stomach this again.
jediknight
"Statistically this is the safer form of travel." You had to do it didn't you Smallville? You couldn't leave that line alone.

Oliver's reaction to the Clark Lois engagement was priceless. I admit when we saw him in the jewelry store, I started laughing. The only thing wrong with Oliver's appearance this episode was that he wasn't at the engagement party. You would think that Chloe would invite him. I know that Lois and him broke up, but he is still friends with Chloe.

The Clois anvils are hitting hard, I don't think Doomsday would stand a chance.
Adele613
I didn't think it could get much worse than last week, but Smallville loves to prove me wrong.
ChlarkMe
This is so wierd, it's like SV is an alternate universe. Did Clark really come back to the same universe? Is any of it real or will it be a repeat of Dallas and Clarks wakes up from on awful dream?
Old Juan
These writers are creatively bankrupt. That's all there is too it. Lois is so SWFing Chloe it's not even funny.
PepSinger
Oliver's reaction to the Clark Lois engagement was priceless.
That and Clark's reaction to the fuzzy handcuffs were the highlights of this episode, IMO.
And Tom Welling has got some guns on him. Flex it baby. Flex it.
Damn straight. When he was in that chair pulling against those chains? Yum.

Also, Lois in Clark's football jersey was just painful to see. Chloe's already done it, and she looked much better in it.
Wry Bread
"What kind of creep would prey on someone during the happiest time of their life?"

Clark, that's straight out of Sailor Moon.

And, uh, I'm falling for Lois and Clark. I can't help myself! They're so cute.
Also, Lois in Clark's football jersey was just painful to see. Chloe's already done it, and she looked much better in it.

OMG, that reminds me: When Lois first walked into Chloe's apartment, I thought her blouse was undone and she wasn't wearing a bra.
chunkeymonkey81
I didn't even watch, but reading reviews from my lj friends made me glad I watched Ugly Betty instead. This show has gone from bad to WTF territory. It seems like a completely different show and everything we have been shown the past few years means nothing.

Soooo glad I gave up this show for real. For real real. It's like a drug addict finally getting into rehab.

It's over!
Chlarkolate
The Chicago channel didn't work till half way through the episode. So I only saw from where the weirdo started questioning Chloe.

So I'm done. I've never felt more disappointed in a show.


I'm free. Unless of course it's revealed that Brainiac controlled the polygraph. But no! Must not find hope in this worthless steaming shit. Must. Leave. Abusive. Relationship.

I hate you PS3.
EllyF
Wow, the writers couldn't tell Chlarkers to go f*ck themselves any more clearly, could they? What'd we ever do to you guys, PS3? Are you offended by the fact that we've been loyal fans for seven years, or what?

It is slightly gratifying to know that they still can't figure out any real reason WHY Clark and EDLois should be a couple, so they have to resort to these silly hackneyed plots to TELL us she loves him. But it's only slightly gratifying, because we are having Cnois crammed down our throats, no matter how little even the writers are able to believe it.

And now, I must go watch a REAL show, Supernatural. I won't even bother hunting down bits of this one on YouTube.
Bkwurm
This is so wierd, it's like SV is an alternate universe. Is any of it real or will it be a repeat of Dallas and Clarks wakes up from on awful dream.


Please let it be revealed that Clark is still trapped beneath the fortress and the Diso ball is controlling him by making him think he is awake and living his life, but instead he is still in some bizarre dream. It's about the only thing that makes this make sense.

I can't even get upset anymore. (Give me time, I usually work up to these things) I'm just so baffled as to how the show runners think they are doing justice to the previous seven years of work.
ChlarkMe
Must. Leave. Abusive. Relationship.


Is there a therapy thread? I could really use the support group.
Bkwurm
I refuse to go back and rewatch it, but he jewler said something about the ring being a perfect symbol of the marriage bond, no beginning and no end. No beginning. That's what happened with Clois. It just came to be with no start.
EllyF
Please let it be revealed that Clark is still trapped beneath the fortress and the Diso ball is controlling him by making him think he is awake and living his life, but instead he is still in some bizarre dream. It's about the only thing that makes this make sense.


I agree. Ordinarily I hate that sort of copout, but in this case... It's not even a shipper thing; it's just that the whole show makes no freaking sense as is. Chloe doesn't have any feelings for Clark? EDLois LOVES Clark? What??? I feel like I'm reading about some AU fanfic, not the actual show.
Durq
This is the kind of stupidly contrived episode that makes me very glad Lex left when he did. I don't 'ship Chlark, Clois or Chlimmy & I don't care who dates/marries who….but using a lie detector to establish what the scripts apparently can't, is a huge admission of laziness on the part of the writers.

I don't get why Lois admitting she loves Clark is such a huge deal, or why she was so reluctant about it. They're friends. Of course, she loves him. Would a lie detector distinguish between friendship, familial or romantic love anyway?

Nice bit of comedy from Tom. "You undressed in the living room. For, like, an hour." And I loved drunk!Lois as the sole voice of reason at the engagement party. Sucky episode for everyone else.

The subplot of Jimmy lying about his parents is inane. He's never mentioned them before, has he? So why would we, or Chloe, care that he lied about it?
Chlarkolate
Is the engagement party worth watching? Cause I can always record a time shifted airing.
hodl2003
Oklahoma City?! Really?! Thanks a lot, PS3. We aren't all part-time laborers and drunks here. More on the epi later.
lovesflicks
Is the engagement party worth watching? Cause I can always record a time shifted airing


Sadly it's not worth shit, Chlarkolate. Just thank God you didn't watch this episode.
acampbell
Given that my expectations aren't particularly lofty for this season, I enjoyed it much more than last week's, even if it did seem like a watered-down "Mercy." But then, I like Lois & Clark together. God help me, I even didn't mind Oliver in this one! I find I enjoy Tess and him together. What would that pairing be: Mollie?

Clark's lookin' HOT. And I'm enjoying the absence of Lana more than I can say, even if she WAS mentioned twice tonight. I'm NOT looking forward to her return.

I miss Lex, even though it's a relief not to see him getting kicked around any more. I hope Tess stays loyal to him. And I miss Lionel, the way he used to be, before mid-S4.
CityLife
Just thank God you didn't watch this episode.


Why did I? I hate myself for watching it. It was the worst, I can truthfully say that I had tears rolling down my face because of how miserable it was. I'm DONE. I just can't take the reboot anymore.
Hannibal King
I don't normally ship, but I dig Clark/Lois. Erica Durance is seriously the funniest person EVAR. My God, she had me cracking up... and then making my eyes water when she started crying. Multi-faceted actress!

Why is Chloe deriding Jimmy for keeping a secret about his parents? She keeps secrets from him all the time (understandably), so I would expect her to be okay with something as little as "my father's a drunk, not a businessman".
PepSinger
This is the kind of stupidly contrived episode that makes me very glad Lex left when he did. I don't 'ship Chlark, Clois or Chlimmy & I don't care who dates/marries who….but using a lie detector to establish what the scripts apparently can't, is a huge admission of laziness on the part of the writers.
Word. I am beyond sick of the contrived plots these writers have to create because they refuse to let the characters react and progress organically.
Nice bit of comedy from Tom. "You undressed in the living room. For, like, an hour."
Heh. Perfect delivery on that line.

Also, I really love Tess.
nwp01
Sounds like another F*CK YOU episode that I can most certainly do without. Hence my other options:

1) Endless.....
wirebiter
Jimmy cut cakeChloe's head off and apologized. That can't be good imo. The music was really bad, really really bad. I still hate Lois, apparently so do many of the people that meet her.
Last Time Lord
I really liked this episode. Yeah, it was a bit like Mercy, but different enough that it wasn't a distraction.

I like the Lois and Clark team.
Dragon Knight
I thought this was a good not great episode. I think Chloe and Jimmy make a great couple, but I think they're rushing Clark and Lois a little bit.
mybabyaidan
Am I alone in disliking Tess?

And not in a love to hate way. I just don't find her appealing at all. Maybe she will grow on me.

Not the best episode, but I enjoyed a lot of it.
Chiriru
The replay of the jersey only reminded me of Devoted, and how much chemistry Chloe and Clark had in that scene. SWFLois needs to be thrown in a hearse more often though.
savingpeople
I am SO glad I had to work late tonight! I was worried that I might have forgotten to set my DVR to record Smallville, but now? Not so much.

Nois is in the football jersey like Chloe from "Devoted"? Screw you, Smallville. Screw you a lot for that. Can't Chloe have ONE thing that is HERS? Seriously, if you want me to quit watching, please just say it right now. I have more interesting and entertaining shows to watch on Thursday nights (30 Rock comes back next week, people). I don't have to waste my time with this waste of space "TV Show" anymore.

I just cannot fathom how the people associated with this show think this mess is good Television.

Chloe says she doesn't love anyone other than Jimmy? Screw you, Smallville...and Brainiac. I'd believe that if I hadn't seen "Traveler" and oh yeah, and SEVEN OTHERS SEASONS OF THIS SHOW.

Please, TPTB, PS3, whoever...stop treating your audience like we're all retarded.

Only good thing that has come out of everything I've been reading is that Nois gets thrown into a hearse. Seriously, Show. You can't come back from that. Someone gets thrown into a car that transports dead bodies HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING...or, on good TV shows with actual good writing that actually knew what they were doing, anyway.

I'm so freaking frustrated with this show. I have heard from 3 of my friends who watch the show this week who are long-time viewers, who don't post on / read message boards and who don't want to know spoilers and they have all said that the show is being ruined because it's not staying true to the story anymore.

I wish someone would have told me that by the end of Smallville's run, the first seven seasons wouldn't mean anything. I would have saved a ton of money on DVDs.

"Committed"? Doesn't describe this viewer anymore.
lovesflicks
Jesus fucking Christ, I am in shock AND awe at the fucking audacity of PS3's hate for the fans. I felt like throwing up from the beginning to the closing credits. I'm sickened over how low SV has gone and there is NO coming back now.

I can't believe the psycho jeweller strapping Clark and Lois and forcing them to admit their feelings, hence the big reveal of Lois' "true wuv" for Clarkie. How goddamn STUPID was that? Since there is no organic start to Clois it has to be presented like a mixture of Saw and Truth or Dare. And either Braniac is making Chloe be able to lie or she really is over Clark, yet ANOTHER fuck you to those of us who wanted her with him. Hey, us fans don't matter right?

Ollie is kinda pissing me off since he's got it bad for Tess again. But I did love her cold response to him saying "I grew up and you left" I am really liking her so much and she made the episode bearable. He's getting played by a master.

So being from Oklahoma City means you're a redneck? That is insulting. And that big surprise from Jimmy was bullshit. We know he's done worse-screwing over Chloe by going to Lex-and that's the best he can come up with? HATE HIM. HATE CLIMMY.

The worst was the rancid dialogue. I swear the word "soulmate" was used at least hundred times. The anvils were fast and furious in this ep.

I will watch next week to see Witwer and then I am done I think.
Denebola
Is the engagement party worth watching?

Only if you completely disregard the other 40 minutes after that that discredit all of the very valid points that Lois brings up during that scene.

I would like to think that when it comes down to it, I travel down Durq's highroad and can get past the shipping to appreciate the show underneath. But I just can't. There's too many plot points that exist solely to shake off Chlarkers and Chloisers for me to stomache them. I'm a Chlarker (never was a Chloiser), and I could literally feel my interest in the show burn out when "Chloe" said that she didn't love Clark. For seven years, Chloe had one of the sweetest, most fascinating and compelling underlying story arcs of the entire show - her unrequited love for Clark. And that's what it was, a story arc. But now that's over. Without anything close to a satisfying resolution. They just...

I'm not watching Smallville anymore. And by that, I mean that this incarnation of the show is not the one I've watched since high school. Smallville is dead. It took balls for PS3 to pull this. And they can play with them all the way to Cancellationville. Have fun, guys. Maybe you can work on "The Grayson's" next season, in case they aren't meeting their hack writer quota.
Sue Denim
I went into this episode expecting it to be anti-Chimmy and found myself enjoying it more than I thought. That said, it's about a 3/10 for me.

There are no Chlark scenes. :(

Unless you understand that Lois Lane was dressed to look and remind you and make you pine for Real!Chloe. They did that pretty well when she woke up at the farm in Clark's jersey. I don't think it's the same jersey from season 4 though.

The Ollie, Lois, and Clark scene at the jeweler was good. Clark's derogatory use of the word "muffin" for endearment for Nois made me ache for Lex's speedy return. Oliver's not buying Cnois's reason for being at the jewelers. Nois explains how they been friends for a long time, how Cnois had one night together, and now they couldn't hide their feelings. It doesn't make sense for Cnois at all, and Ollie expresses that wonderfully. No one's suppose to buy that. But--it does describe Chlark. If Chloe and Clark were at the jeweler store to feign engagement, I do believe that everyone would buy it.

The Tollie was a nice surprise.

And Clark's face at the pink handcuffs, oh my!

And--Brainiac's symbol was still present at Isis.
nwp01
This is all so very disheartening. I used to get excited for Thursday nights. Now, all I expect from SV is a world of disappointments and insults. I just don't get why PS3 had to spit in my face just to promote Clois.
RedKRules
It is incredible how they´re using Chlark greatest moments to set up Nois, how lazy and uncreative they are, well first the Clois shot at the Daily, Chlark did it first and Better!! Then trashing the Fever letter to pimp up more Nois, and now Lois with Clark´s footbal shirt ..... sorry but Chloe looked so much better on it than Lois ....

Just another filler, lame, lazy, uncreative, lightswitch episode!, I really want to see this reflecting on their RATINGS please??!!
Adele613
If it wasn't already evident that they're trying to make Lois more Chloe-like, we got Lois in the jersey (Devoted, anyone?) and Lois repeating the exact. same. line that Chloe said to Jimmy (I guess the Olsen's not quite so wholesome).

And not a one Chlark scene. Is there a Smallville patch or chewing gun I could buy, I seriously need to kick this bad habit.

This season needs WAY more Chlark, less instaClois, and a storyline and dialogue that doesn't make me cringe.
hodl2003
So being from Oklahoma City means you're a redneck?

To here PS3 tell it, those of us from OKC are alcoholic grease monkeys who ruin our children's lives so much that they want to become someone else entirely.
lovesflicks
Did that piss you off Hodl2003? I was angry and I'm not even FROM there.
Dragon Knight
The replay of the jersey only reminded me of Devoted, and how much chemistry Chloe and Clark had in that scene.


Good catch. I'd completely forgotten that Chloe had on Clark's football jersey in Devoted. It's a shame they never really explored a romantic relationship between Chloe and Clark.
thethinman
So the 'Man of Steel' is reduced to fighting a deranged heartsick jeweler? Oh, who just happens to have a kryptonite watch because they are all the fashion rage. Man what do the producers of this crap have on the network honchos that allow them to keep running this shit.
hodl2003
Did that piss you off Hodl2003? I was angry and I'm not even FROM there.

a little...yeah (not your post, but them using OKC just because it's close to Kansas)..cuz where I live in OKC is far from being redneck.
wwg23
Why in heck am I still watching this? I don't recognize any of the characters. This isn't Smallville anymore.

Ollie's given up being GA and is with a Lex surrogate
Chloe has no reaction to anything. She's become doormat!Chloe
Nois is insufferable (okay that hasn't changed) and is happily SWF'd Chloe
Jimmy is a whiny ass (okay that hasn't changed either)

What are you doing to SV, PSSS?!
lovesflicks
Does anyone else feel that they've wasted 7 years of their lives on this fucking shitheap of a show? And that the writers have raped the essence of Superman and Clark Kent? I do and I'm at a loss for the words to describe the pain and horror of what has happened to SV. I mean, PS3 HATES us, for Christ's sake.
Sue Denim
Nois is insufferable (okay that hasn't changed) and is happily SWF'd Chloe

Nois get's pushed into a hearse though. Her end can't be that good. What happened with SWF's end?
DigiKing
At the height of this crap-fest, I turned to the DigiQueen and said, "These people went on strike for months and came back to write this. They are getting new houses, new cars, private school for the kids, going on vacations. If I sent them a manuscript they'd delete it without even looking at it."

That was insulting. Fracture and Project Intercept have been knocked from their pedestal, the moment of Contrivance was tonight, with Psycho Jeweler saying "Deep down beneath it all, do you love this man?" to BossBanger. PJ doesn't know these kids from Adam or Eve.

He hasn't seen BossBanger heap insults on top of abuse on Clark and deride every achievement he's ever gotten, except for the ones she steals for herself. He hasn't seen BB freeload off of Clark and his family, and Clark continue to be patient with that ungrateful wastrel. He didn't even see the hangover scene when BB was too much of an ingrate to thank Clark for salvaging the final few shreds of her dignity, not even offering thanks until she learned he was the only reason why she didn't wrap her car around a tree. For him to say "Deep down beneath it all" he would have had to be here for those moments, and thus this nonsense was a pile of crap.

So for this to happen, and then for BB to start shaking like a leaf in the face of the question before tearfully answering "Yes" and them cutting to the stationary detector was an insult to anyone with half a brain. I guess BB was conflicted between the Green Arrow and the guy she's been slapping around for all these years, two weeks ago. I won't even talk about the contrivance of the freaking bracelet. Just...you set up these metaphors, with things like "You can't reheat this stuff, it's never as good the second time around" but then use all the Chlark moments in history with BB in Chloe's place...lasers. There are now lasers coming from my eyes.

Sorry for the incoherent post, but I'm kinda off right now.
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