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The fourth week of performances.
Tasya
That was surprising. I liked all of the Tango couples better than the Samba couples. I usually don't even like Tango so that's saying a lot. I thought that the Samba couples all strayed away from the actual dancing and tried to add too much of their own thing. Brooke was once again boring to me, I just can't get behind her.

I thought that most of the scores were right where they should be, except I didn't think Cody/Julianne should have been quite so high and Cloris should have gotten all 7s not that 8 from Carrie Ann which was totally a guilt score after her previous comments.
whiterose23
Best part of tonight's show? Julianne's bewildered reaction to Cody's "MJ" after they got their 23. As a huge Michael Jordan fan, I, of course, got what Cody was saying right away and seeing Julianne all confused was icing on the cake. Too cute. That was their best dance to date, here's hoping they go up from here.

I love Alec! I'm so happy that it seems like he's going to be in it for the long haul with Toni because he is a breath of fresh air. Plus, you know, he's hot.

Best dance of the night has to be Brooke. Again. Derek did seem over the top with his shaking when they were getting their scores. It was bordering on annoying but I still laughed the entire time. What was it that Julianne threw at his direction after they got their scores?

I can't help but smile whenever Warren is onscreen! He really is just a joy to watch.
spanana
I didn't really enjoy much of anything tonight, but Carrie Anne is on crack. She breaks out an 8 for Cloris? I think Cloris was much better, but she gave her a better score than most everyone else? Okay then.

It's either Rocco or a surprise leaving tomorrow night. Maurice good be in trouble based on not so great scores tonight and going first.

I give Lance credit for being better and to Lacey for actually working on his frame, but I was too distracted watching her to watch him. I really don't like her dancing.

It's not surprising to me that the tango couples would be better. IMO, the samba seems to be the hardest dance on DWTS for a lot of the celebs to master. Even a lot of the good celebs usually struggle when it comes to samba.
milner
Wow, I can't speak. Cloris got a 22!! Yes she tried and yes it was way better but come on--Rocco 18, Warren 22?
tip and fall
I disagreed with the judges about Cody. He still doesn't seem very polished. There were times when it looked like he was barely managing to hold on to Julianne. At least he didn't do the whole "young gun" thing, or anything gimmicky like the air guitar. And Carrie Ann telling Cody that she liked he was doing the actual dance? What a laugh. This was coming from the woman who got pissy that Cloris wasn't being wacky for the paso doble.

I find it interesting that the actors of the bunch -- Cody, Susan, Cloris -- all got the actor's dance. Whereas Brooke, whose main criticism seems to be that she is a bit cold/emotionless (which wouldn't be good for the tango) but is still the best dancer overall, got the samba (more difficult technique-wise but less dependent on acting). I'm sure that it was probably just a coincidence/dependent on whatever dance the stars had had the last week, but it was still funny. I'm glad Susan got the tango, because I don't think she could have pulled off the samba nearly as well.

Brooke...Derek is always goofy. Where have you been, girl? On a shallower note, I liked Derek's hair. I don't care if it's too long for a dance. It was nice and floppy. :P But once again, boy apparently forgot to take his medication.
Nannav
Cloris was tolerable tonight. They danced, but it certainly was not worth an 8 IMO. What was Carrie Ann thinking?

I think Susan Lucci really stepped it up. She and Tony did a great, smoldering tango. Also, I loved the clip of Tony's AMC appearance.
loveisthedrug
The Hustle, Jitterbug, Salsa, and West Coast Swing next week? I don't have a good feeling about this. And I'll bet that Lance and Lacey get WCS, meaning they'll probably stick around another week. Fan-fucking-tastic.

Do ballroom and Latin dancers get any sort of training in these styles of dance or are we just going to get a bunch of technically soft routines next week?

I'm thankful that Cloris actually danced tonight, but Carrie Ann is on crack. That was ridiculous.

I continue to be bored by this show.
thethinman
Well if Derek doesn't have a brain fart when it comes to choreography; he and Brooke should walk away with this season. She is just stunning on the floor. It is hard to take one's eyes off of her.
mtlchickie
Rocco preparing to kiss Cloris' cleavage going into the first break had me shuddering (though that being said, she certainly didn't look 82 tonight!) And then...Cloris pulls off an ok tango? Sorry Rocco, you're so hosed.

Meanwhille, even though I liked Brooke and Derek's samba, upon hearing the song, it instantly reminded me of THIS. Then I imagined Lacey possibly having a conniption about this and I started to smile.

Finally, I'm getting Carrie Ann a dictionary for Xmas...because once someone throws the Paula Abdul label on you, there is a problem. When the person throwing that insult is BRUNO, then there is a BIGGER problem. Hee!
sussudio
What the heck is up with the rehearsal packages? From Rocco's mom to Maurice's daughter to Cody's principal? WTH??? I'm getting tired of the fake rehearsal packages. It doesn't seem genuine anymore.

I've always that Brooke was okay, but today she looked amazing. That was a great samba by her and Derek. Unfortunately, Derek is getting way annoying. I'm getting so sick of him and his post-score interview. I just rather hear Brooke instead of Derek being so goofy.

I also thought that the tangos today were better than the sambas. I couldn't watch Cloris anymore so I was shocked when I switched back to the show to hear her high scores! They will never get rid of her, will they?
GoldenWoman
I'm sorry but tonights scoring was horrible. There's no way that Cloris should have scored that high and Toni scored that low. They really put the screws to Toni and Alec and it's really annoying. Rocco was horrible tonight but he's all set for next week. Susan's dance was perfect for her but she still bores me to tears. Lance and Lacey should have gotten 7's for their dance. Her footwork was terrible and he wasn't much better either. I don't get what the hell Cheryl did tonight. Has she run out of choreo or what? That dance was all gimmick and very very little samba. Brooke was awesome tonight and totally deserved straight 9's. Warren too was fun and deserved better than he got. Cody and Julianne continue to be boring and I just don't care anymore. This season is just horrible in so many ways. Brooke, Warren and Toni should be the final 3 but I think Toni is done. Carrie Anne pissed me off tonight and I really wanted to smack her. Here's hoping next season is MUCH better.
harvestbasket
What was it that Julianne threw at his direction after they got their scores?
Waterbottle? Either way, Julianne was entertaining me tonight along with her lost expression after the MJ reference. Cute moment between the siblings and reminds us they are just like the rest of us. Derek needs to drop the red bull, but I was laughing at him versus being annoyed.
I'm getting so sick of him and his post-score interview. I just rather hear Brooke instead of Derek being so goofy.
Which is why I was more annoyed Samantha brought it up again when clearly the moment had passed. Talk to Brooke, Samantha! Brooke had the same song as Dancey's samba. I was thinking the same thng, mtlchikie. Figured the song would end up on DWTS since they used it on the tour as well.

The theme tonight was also family night as it seems as though by the end of the season, every celeb's family will visit them at rehearsal.

I thought Cody was overscored IMO and no surprise the tangos were better. Samba is tough and throughout DWTS, I only think three celebs (Emmitt, Stacy, Apolo) really did it well. Well, now I also want to add Brooke's samba because she brought some personality, finally, to the dance floor and loved her samba walk. I agreed with CA's comment about her. She has no performance background either so it is easy for me to get behind her. Brooke and Warren remain my favorites after this week.

I am guessing Lacey and Lance are getting the WCS next week. My goodness, Lance still bores me. Warren entertains me, but I agreed his technique was not there tonight. I had a feeling that would be the case.

Not sure how I feel about the hustle. Ugh, disco stinks on SYTYCD and not looking forward to it.

Rocco was not that great and as much as I want Cloris gone, I am fine if Rocco leaves tomorrow as well. I appreciated the tango and nice that Corky gave her decent choreography.
Elsa
I hated hated hated the "song" Brooke and Derek danced to, if you could even call it a song. Wasn't it some guy talking for 45 seconds - then finally a little music? Despite that, I thought her dancing was amazing! She was my favorite tonight - with Toni second - and what a damned shame about her slip-up because her hip-wiggling was fantastic and otherwise it was great. And Alec was begging for the West Coast Swing? Wonder if they'll give it to him - you know Lacey will get it. And what the hell is the "Hustle"? I vaguely remember hearing the word but can't place it. Sounds night-clubby or something.

Cheryl looked so gorgeous in that outfit but Maurice, Rocco, and Cody are the least musical celebs I think I've ever seen on this show. Cloris looked great and I was amazed at her extension - and since I liked her dance as well as Cody's, I'm ok with her scores. It might be a nice note to go out on :)

Susan was better but I found her a bit dull and I wasn't really feeling Warren - I guess he can't really move his hips and maybe that's why they've already pegged Lance for the final, considering the trainwrecks the other guys are, musically. Oh well, at least he can dance to a beat. I do hope he doesn't win though - I'd like to see Brooke or Toni take it, since they're head and shoulders above Lance, imo - I still didn't think he got the frame quite right and I'm not sure I think Lacey can dance, either, outside of her specialties.
whiterose23
But once again, boy apparently forgot to take his medication.


Or maybe he took too much? He seemed WAY too hyperactive compared to his other antics. Still like Derek though. I could not stop looking at his bare chest, heh.

I agree that the scoring was pretty suspect tonight and especially with Carrie Ann. The 8 for Cloris...what was Carrie Ann smoking? I didn't think Lance and Lacey deserved those high scores as well. I agree with the poster who said they can't stand her dancing. I'm sick of their "we want to be different" shtick as well. Just get on with the damn dance!

Cody and Julianne might be boring but I still gave them all my votes. I want to see Julianne on my TV for a few more weeks, at least.
Rattle and Hum
Check this out, Elsa, for a better idea of what a kickass song that can be for dancing. Of course, a lot of it has to do with the band kinda murdering it and the tempo being slowed way down.
Elsa
Thanks, Rattle-and-Hum, now at least it makes a little bit of SENSE, them choosing that lecture to music, but I still didn't like it! I think I would have liked those dancers to a real song (and I usually do not like pro Latin numbers - they're too over the top for me - too angular - too much let's move as fast as we possible can and then suddenly HALT - now we'll do it again...) Oh I don't know -- I know absolutely nothing about dance and don't even generally like to watch it -- I just like seeing celebrities make fools of themselves or otherwise I'd never tune into DwtS, lol. But at least the "song" choice makes a little more sense now!
AwNutz
I rewound and watched the one pass of Julianne and Cody, and he's clearly out of position, as she steps on his foot and nearly bites it not once but twice. It had nothing to do with her outfit (that was so NOT a dress). He was going in the wrong direction with his steps. He does step on her pantleg at one point (just after the afformentioned bobble) and slips a little, though. I was stunned to see they made no mention of the former.

As for Cloris, I was actually rather impressed with what she did tonight, and it makes me think that Corky's got a preconceived notion of what she can and cannot do, and is not pushing her to do everything possible. I don't want her to get hurt, but she's obviously got the stamina, flexibility and willingness to do more than he wants to give her. That really kind of pisses me off.
harvestbasket
didn't think Lance and Lacey deserved those high scores as well. I agree with the poster who said they can't stand her dancing. I'm sick of their "we want to be different" shtick as well. Just get on with the damn dance!
ITA and thought Toni was underscored especially compared to Lance. Ideally for me, the final 3 should be Toni, Warren and Brooke. Aside from odd judging tonight and adding four new dances, an UO, but I am enjoying the overall dancing this season compared to last.

I found it amusing when Len said Brooke's samba was too erotica and Derek began buttoning up his shirt again.

Definite grassy knolly moments with Lance's scoring. It was not awful, but footwork stunt and his frame was not that great. CA put it best when she said he did not live up to expectations and IMO, still not living up to them.

it makes me think that Corky's got a preconceived notion of what she can and cannot do, and is not pushing her to do everything possible. I don't want her to get hurt, but she's obviously got the stamina, flexibility and willingness to do more than he wants to give her. That really kind of pisses me off.
Same here. That jive was horrendous because that awful choreography. Again, if Cloris sticks around, hope Corky gives her more to do. And yes, Corky's default face in the red room freaks me out. He needs to lift up his head.
Tasya
I agree about Cody, I thought that he and Julianne should have gotten 7s, imo they were the only Tango couple scored too high, along with Cloris' 8.

I was just extremely unimpressed with the Sambas, even that of the anointed Brooke. There was one portion that was really good but the rest seemed low energy and half hearted. The one portion where they were facing forward and doing the little hip shakes with the forward arm motions was completely blah. Also after having seen Danny and Lacey dance to that song and do it so much better, I was already inclined to disfavor them.

I thought that Lance finally got close to getting it right. I've thought all along that despite the playing and joking that Lacey was attempting to really teach him and he just wasn't getting it. I see he had the full on brace on this week which seemed to help. I love Lacey's dancing and since there are so many dull pairs, I really hope that she and Lance stick around.
O2Sean
DWTS isn't about the dancing anymore, although I was still annoyed by the scoring.

I think tonight was about trying to get back some integrity, if DWTS had any. Cloris has been a laughingstock and I'm sure quite a few viewers were uncomfortable about the floor-humping. Cody has never lived up to the story of the young kid who becomes a man, or a good dancer. They have to justify pushing him as much as they have. People are bored to tears with the Lancey v Len fight and so far they've been a bust, so now they get hype and a good score to justify their presence. Susan also needs some justification, because she hasn't quite been what was expected.

The dancers who are not in story arcs or who were not cast to be characters, like Warren, Toni, Maurice, they were all thrown to the side, regardless of what they did on the floor.

The exceptions were Rocco (they probably want him gone) and Brooke (she probably isn't getting enough viewer votes to justify anything but good comments and a good score).
Tasya
I don't know about the scoring not mattering but I disagree that Warren, Toni and Maurice were judged based on things not relating to their dancing. Warren's routine most definitely lacked technique, Toni's was a little to raunchy to the point where I was thinking "hmm isn't this family tv hour" and Maurice just always seems a little off to me. I think that the three of them got the scores they deserved this week.
harvestbasket
Brace or not, Lance's footwork and his frame was not that much better. I also do not care for Lacey's dancing on this show. Alec/Toni, Warren/Kym, Maurice/Cheryl, Brooke/Derek are far more entertaining. I would have never thought Lacey/Lance would be the boring couple but they are that for me this season. I did love Lacey/Danny's samba too, but I thought Brooke's was fine for a novice. But of course it pales in comparison.

DWTS has never really been about the dancing, IMO. Dance wise, Cloris was better than most of Marissa's dancing last season for me. But last week, Cloris was awful. I do not feel producer manipulation like I felt in the past SYTYCD season, but I felt a bit propping up of Lance and pushing Maurice down a bit this week.
O2Sean
I don't know about the scoring not mattering but I disagree that Warren, Toni and Maurice were judged based on things not relating to their dancing. Warren's routine most definitely lacked technique, Toni's was a little to raunchy to the point where I was thinking "hmm isn't this family tv hour" and Maurice just always seems a little off to me. I think that the three of them got the scores they deserved this week.


I can't judge them by the standard of their dancing because I don't think Cloris, Cody, or Lance were judged based on their dancing (Susan I'm about 50/50). If those three could do such a mediocre or poor job and get the scores they got, then I think that's unfair to Warren, Toni, and Maurice.
DWTS has never really been about the dancing, IMO.


That's true, but the past few years have felt more blatant in this area. They are just desperate for their story arcs, and the actual dancing is irrelevant. That's one of the reasons I was so happy Kristi won, because she wasn't there for drama, she was there to dance.
neptune42
I wasn't impressed with the scoring either. Sure Cloris finally dialled down the shtick, but that was not worthy of an 8. I dialled in a few votes for Rocco as a backlash.
sussudio
I rewound and watched the one pass of Julianne and Cody, and he's clearly out of position, as she steps on his foot and nearly bites it not once but twice. It had nothing to do with her outfit (that was so NOT a dress). He was going in the wrong direction with his steps. He does step on her pantleg at one point (just after the afformentioned bobble) and slips a little, though. I was stunned to see they made no mention of the former.


I noticed that as well and was surprised at the high scores they got. However, I thought it was their best dance yet. I also love Julianne's outfit. It's similar to the first foxtrot dance she did with Helio.
dcaimb
Odd night tonight.

I actually liked Lance tonight. It really looked like he worked on the frame. Lacey was a bit distracting but I thought they were much improved. I was entertained by the whole routine. Also, I found them to be easier to take during the video footage which was bonus.

Not a Brooke fan, but girlfriend can shake it. She is a bit of a bore on the dance floor and I can't stand Derek, but I was impressed by her rehearsal footage.

Cloris scored higher than Rocco? Lame. He is toast tomorrow. I will miss Karina.

Ok, I think Toni may be my favorite. If I actually cared enough to vote I would probably vote for her. However, I feel like she has the potential to be so good and I found her to be a bit of a mess tonight. I don't know if it is her partner or what, but I feel like she should be a threat to Brooke at this point and she just isn't there. She is better than most, but not where I think she could be. I don't have a ton of faith in Alec and I hope he has it in him to pull her together.

I really appreciate Tony this year. He seems to be enjoying himself and Susan is actually improving which is kind of awesome when I compare her to everyone else. I give him a lot of credit. Plus, he choreographs to show her off which is kind of nice. She is not very exciting, but she is classy out there.
spanana
I did love Lacey/Danny's samba too, but I thought Brooke's was fine for a novice. But of course it pales in comparison.

I agree. I liked Lacey/Danny's SYTYCD samba too, but I don't think it's quite fair to expect Brooke to be on par with them. Lacey is a professional ballroom dancer and Danny may not be a ballroom dancer, but he's still a dancer by trade. And an amazing one at that.

Brooke did something tonight few women on DWTS have managed to do. Pull off a samba. Stacey Kiebler was better, but in terms of the female celebs I might put Brooke at #2. Though I'm sure I'm blanking out on a few female celebs here and there.

Most of the guys this season really don't have musicality. I like Maurice, but as much as he likes to dance he really doesn't feel the music. I don't think Cody does either and I agree there were passes in his dance where he clearly messed up and almost took Julianne down with him.
TheAnglican
I think that the only celebs who were not overscored were Rocco, Maurice, and Brooke. Brooke's was worthy of 9s across the board. Rocco still isn't getting it, but I still see more potential in him than Maurice. Maurice is still stuck in "happy goofy" gear and I don't think he'll ever get out of it. If he'd had tango this week, I think he would have been at the bottom of the leader board.

I sent most of my votes to Rocco and Toni. Dammit, I don't care if Cloris turned in a serviceable performance this week - Rocco still deserves the chance to keep working and improving more than she does. And can you imagine next week if Cloris makes it through? I call the hustle all the way for her, and the band will still have to slow down the tempo for her. At least this week she made it through the judges' comments without needing a chair. Toni was dreadfully underscored. Alec is still smoking hot.

I actually threw a vote Lance and Lacey's way. I still don't like her, but there was a spark of something there with Lance that I haven't seen before. But Jennie and Derek performed the techno-tango much better in Season 5, and with sparkling footwork and beautiful frames to boot.
harvestbasket
That's one of the reasons I was so happy Kristi won, because she wasn't there for drama, she was there to dance.
I think most if not all were there to dance. Marissa and Kim as obvious exceptions since they said they wanted the sparkles. If I think about guys like Apolo, Emmitt or even a headcase like Ian, they wanted to do their best and dance. Stacy was all about dancing. I think the show would have worked the drama Kristi if she gave them anything. There were moments when Mark was clearly frustrated and on edge last season with Kristi, but she defused it well. Had she gone off on the judges, I am sure they would have shown it. Besides, come on, it is Kristi, America's sweetheart. It is annoying the show looks to manufacture or create drama. That is how I see Lancey. I am annoyed the show is pushing this Lance/Lacey story line. But even Kristi, who I adored, struggled with the samba. I agree that Brooke was the second female celeb to actually pull off the samba tonight.

Though I think Toni got screwed in terms of scores, I think Toni will benefit from it. I think she'll get tons of votes because of it. I hope Warren and Brooke are still safe though as I want them with her in the final 3.

ITA that the male celebs lack musicality this season. Though I would much rather watch Warren and Maurice dance over last season's bromance. Cody also does seem to be this younger version of Ian for me. While Cody was overscored IMO and looked like a bell boy, I loved Julianne's costume tonight. It was a cross between her foxtrot with Helio and her tango with Apolo.

Loved Tom's snarkiness tonight and his eyeroll at Len.
mlewis
I don't know about the scoring not mattering but I disagree that Warren, Toni and Maurice were judged based on things not relating to their dancing. Warren's routine most definitely lacked technique, Toni's was a little to raunchy to the point where I was thinking "hmm isn't this family tv hour" and Maurice just always seems a little off to me. I think that the three of them got the scores they deserved this week.

Toni and Alec were clearly underscored. Their dancing was beautiful and very smooth and Toni’s hips were wonderful. They were as the judges noted a very sexy couple. Their moves were sensual but never raunchy. These two have a smoldering chemistry that heated up the dance floor and it was a joy to see. As far as raunchy goes, the dance by Derek and Brooke was raunchy and erotic, which was noted by the judges. I get the feeling that Derek is pushing real hard to try and make up for what he did last year. Look at all the mugging he did in the post dance interview, it’s really getting tiresome. It’s like he’s trying to say I’m a nice guy not an ass but it’s a little too late for that one. Their dance was good but not great and the scores were a little high.

Julianne's costume was ridiculous. Wearing a thong on national TV that was barely covered by a flimsy see through fabric was quite disgusting and sad. You could clearly see her butt and this was no wardrobe malfunction. She sure seems desperate. Don’t they know that children are watching this show. Isn’t Julianne suppose to be some kind of role model.

Warren was great and once again very light on his feet. Maybe not quite as good as last week but he didn't deserve the dressing down the judges gave him. Maurice was treated the worse. Both he and Cheryl put together a routine that had the audience jumping out of their seats. It was fun and extremely entertaining and it was sad to see the judges were so hard on them. The beautiful thing about Maurice is he takes the judges criticism with a smile and a laugh. The scores were just as bad as the criticism.

Lance should be better. Years of dance training and choreography and he still looks lost. Maybe that has something to do with Lacey who seems to be a bit weird. Cloris improved but she didn’t deserve eights. Perhaps all that complaining is wearing down the judges. It was an inconsistent night for the judges who overpraised and overscored some and overcriticized and underscored others. I can only hope that they overcome this case of brain freeze and start scoring equitably.
harvestbasket
I actually thought Toni/Alec's rumba was more raunchy than Brooke's. I still liked it. Toni and Brooke had the best two dances, IMO. Her stumbles at the start took her out for a bit, but she was still better than the guys, IMO. I thought Julianne's costume was great. I missed the thong. Maybe I was distracted by Cody 's stumbles.

I love Warren, but he was not great tonight. No hip action, his lines were weak and while he was light on his feet, Kym did a lot of dancing around him. But compared to the other NFL players on DWTS, only Emmitt did a better job than him. Yeah, I just did not care for Jason's latin dances last season.

While I like the addition of salsa, lindy hip and WCS, I dread the addition of the hustle. Now, if they added these dances, are they going to change the freestyle rules and let them perform a real show dance in the finals. I hope so.
itsjfitz
While I like the addition of salsa, lindy hip and WCS, I dread the addition of the hustle.


Right there with ya, harvestbasket! I had a WTF moment when they announced that the hustle would be one of the new dances.

I was so distracted every time they went to Samantha, because I swear it looked like she was wearing Kenley's Project Runway mermaid gown.

Toni and Alec are becoming my favorite couple. They got most of my votes tonight, and I also tossed a few Rocco's way, because I think it would be nice for Cloris to go out on a good dance, and tonight was a good dance. See, Corky, give her some basic, traditional moves and she can do them!
Abra
It’s only week four and it feels like it’s been forever.

There is no way in hell Brooke has never had any dance training in her background. I still don’t care enough about her to try to research what it was, though. This was her best dance so far for me because she actually had a little smidge of personality in the dance, instead of just pretty lines and movements with her mind somewhere else entirely. But, unless she can completely bust out of that sometime soon and wow the hell out of me with an actual performance, I’m just not going to care too much about her. I will however care very much about Derek, because there was something about him tonight that was just downright hot, with his hair all mussed and his shirt open..........okay, I’m back. He’s never had that effect on me before. I feel kind of cougar-y.

Cody had moments where he totally connected with the tango tonight, so I will now proceed to feel bad about nearly wanting him to knock the both of them over when he stumbled. Also, Julianne’s embarrassed ‘duh’ reaction to Cody’s explanation about the MJ comment was too funny.

That hairstyle combined with the shape of Lacey’s face was horrendous. Aside from the freaky neck-breaking move at the end, I enjoyed Lance and Lacey’s tango a lot and also felt it was their best dance. Carrie Ann actually said exactly what I’ve been thinking, that I’ve been expecting to be wowed by Lance and haven’t been. While this wasn’t a wow dance, I do feel he has much more potential than I thought. I hope he keeps improving.

It felt like the judges are trying to weed people out of the competition and have stopped giving certain people any chances. By certain people I mean Maurice and Rocco. Yes, Rocco doesn’t seem to really be improving but he didn’t deserve the tone of the comments. Same goes for Maurice – neither the tone nor the scoring were appropriate (even though I do agree he could have been much better). Love Maurice and Cheryl together.

Cloris can actually dance. Who the hell knew? I agree with whoever has been thinking that Corky hasn’t been giving her enough credit. I don’t think we have either. That being said, she still needs to go home. And stop wandering into other peoples’ interviews. I’m disturbed by the fact that during her performances she has these moments where she completely stops what she’s doing, and I can’t help but think that she’s having some kind of brief spell of dementia and it weirds me out. Maybe it’s supposed to be a dramatic (or comedic?) pause, but it’s creepy.

I again get the sense that there is something going on between Warren and Kym. I feel the same about their dances as I always have – his technique has never impressed me, so I just watch and enjoy what he gives of his personality. And the judges need to give actual constructive criticism to him instead of just saying it lacked content, especially when they’ve done nothing but compliment them to this point. Tell them what they need to work on, and it’s not just him doing a more difficult routine.

Not sure how to feel about the four new dances next week. I just have “Do the Hustle!” stuck in my head.
harvestbasket
I was so distracted every time they went to Samantha, because I swear it looked like she was wearing Kenley's Project Runway mermaid gown.
Get out of my head, itsjfitz! I thought the same thing. My goodness, no one is more annoying than Kenley but if Lance and Lacey do not stop with their edgy talk, they are joining Kenley. Okay, maybe not. No one is as annoying as Kenley.

I feel bad for whichever pair gets the hustle because I think they will be screwed next week.

I thought going into tonight that Warren would walk away with this, but I am thinking it might be Toni now. She has a nice improvement arc going for her. But I feeling one of the three I like will be thrown aside to make room for Lance in the finals. Heading over to the grassy knoll now.

BTW, waltzinspringtm mentioned maybe something going with Warren/Kym and I watched them more closely tonight. I am joining that camp too now.
crowceilidh
Well, this is the first night I liked Lance and Lacey and I would say that the editors tried to pull out of the annoying story arc for once. They talked about being "themselves" a couple of times, but none of the "rebel" lines. Maybe the show gets that we're not buying that crap. I was mesmerized by their dance and no one else's.

Brooke and Derek were sexy - it's funny I find Derek entirely irritating unless he's dancing and I mostly think he looks like a bobble head kinda freak - but boy can he be sexy when he's dancing.

Warren looked like he was concentrating so hard that his head might explode, except for that final megawatt smile.

I smelled a lot of rats with the placement of various couples and the dubious scoring. I think Cloris danced in the middle of th pack to encourage voter forgetfulness and scored so high in order to lull her fans into a false sense of security.

Cody and Toni both seemed awkward - like they were having trouble staying on the beat - although I'd still rather watch Toni and Alec than Julianne and Cody. (As a high school teacher, I'm afraid that I find Cody's inability to pay attention intensely irritating -- too much like day-to-day life for me.) Toni would get into beat for about 4 or 5 bars and then stumble, get into beat, then stumble.

Susan was dull. I don't know who this Erica Kane character is as I've never been a daytime soap watcher, but if she's supposed to be fierce, it did not show in that tango. Susan always looks fragile and hesitant.

Kinda boring overall, eh?
superpole2000
What the heck is up with the rehearsal packages? From Rocco's mom to Maurice's daughter to Cody's principal? WTH??? I'm getting tired of the fake rehearsal packages. It doesn't seem genuine anymore.


The packages are awful. Cody's principal and Maurice's daughter were complete wastes of time. I know it's a cheesy show, but it has to be a little better than that to keep me watching.

I continue to be bored by this show.


Me too. I stopped watching on several occasions, and I am ready to just abandon the season.
WaltzinSpringTm
My only problem with Brooke is except for the quickstep she still dances in segments. She was very confident tonight and had great hip action but instead of dancing as a whole, it was this section, then the next, etc. I think she mentally dances that way and it translates. But her transitions feel "out of the dance" in some way. I'd have to rewatch to really nail it.

I don't think Brooke had dance training, I just think she's a natural mover. Natural meaning she moves properly. She's centered, she's lined up. You don't need dance training to get that - it's good fortune. I look at Susan in clips doing pilates and I can see how tight she is in her hips and shoulders, she's not free-moving even though she credits pilates with getting her ready for DWTs. Lisa Rinna was a similar pilates-phile - there are people who are very advanced in their yoga or pilates and still they aren't good movers. I saw Brooke a few years ago doing a work out on an exercise ball. I can't recall much about the segment except it registered with me that she was extremely fit and she looked very good while she was being taught the workout. By "looked good" I don't mean how she used her body while doing the exercises. She was very balanced. She's a fluid mover. The big drawback with her is her performance chops aren't apace with her ability to move.
JudeMorrigan
The Hustle, Jitterbug, Salsa, and West Coast Swing next week? I don't have a good feeling about this. And I'll bet that Lance and Lacey get WCS, meaning they'll probably stick around another week. Fan-fucking-tastic.

Do ballroom and Latin dancers get any sort of training in these styles of dance or are we just going to get a bunch of technically soft routines next week?


Well, in my own very limited ballroom experience (less than a year total), I've had hustle, salsa and WCS classes in addition to ones for the "major" dances. Personally, I'm not too worried about the pros being able to handle them, although I've certainly been known to be wrong about things in the past.

The interesting thing with this, imo, is going to be seeing the stars try to make the transition back and forth between salsa and mambo. Once you get used to one, it can be tough to hold the timing with the other.

On an unrelated note, Cloris' routine was her best of the competition, but that was comically overscored. I don't know that it'll help, but Rocco is getting my votes tonight.

Also, Cheryl looked *fantastic* tonight.
realityremote
Yes, Rocco doesn’t seem to really be improving but he didn’t deserve the tone of the comments.


I completely agree. Rocco is a chef, he's not an entertainer or an athlete who's used to using their body (that sounds dirty), and they won't cut him a break. He was exuberant and a heck of lot more fun to watch than Brooke.

There's no one clearly breaking from the pack, IMHO.
oakgal
Carrie-Ann can rewrite history as much as she wants, but Cody DID stumble during that dance. He looked so unsteady and off kilter. It wasn't Julianne's wide leg pants that were causing the problems, it was Cody's terrible feet!

I liked Toni's Samba a lot. She had a fumble, but her samba rolls were impressive and she had a lot of the movement down. I thought she could have given herself into the dance a bit more but overall, very good. I love them as a pairing. The suxy was making an appearance up on the stage. Woo!

I didn't find Brooke's Samba raunchy at all. She's just built that way, she does the moves and it looks sexy. I enjoyed it but I could have done without seeing Derek's poor excuse for a chest. Was that supposed to be sexy? It wasn't.

I thought Cloris was good and I thought her dress was great. She looked really good but Carrie-Ann is on crack (once again) if she thinks that deserved an 8! Sure, 7s but no more.

I like Susan Lucci but I'm bored now. I think that's as good as it's gonna get. Didn't like Warren or Maurice much either. Lance and Lacey still annoy me to death. Totally overscored.

I just feel bad for Rocco at this point. He's trying so hard and it just isn't happening. I shall bestow upon him the Mr. Congeniality Award. I'm afraid he's toast.
mezz98
There's no way that Cloris should have scored that high and Toni scored that low.


Word. I thought Toni and Alec danced beautifully tonight. Cloris was improved, but not deserving of an 8.

I can't help it, I still loved Warren tonight even though he got no love from the judges.
TryingHarder
I can't help it, I still loved Warren tonight even though he got no love from the judges.
He's just a big barrel of fun. I love to watch him.

For some odd reason I really want to see Alec do the West Coast Swing. I have no clue why.

Yay, Lance, you go boy !
itsjfitz
Forgot to mention, that was an interesting bit of ABC show synergy when Kym took Warren to a Capeoieria (I know I spelled that wrong!) studio, because there was a scene about Capeoieria (probably still spelled wrong) on Desperate Housewives last night. There was probably more exposure to Capeoieria (yup, still spelled wrong) in the last 24 hours than the average American tv watcher will get in a lifetime.

I shall bestow upon him the Mr. Congeniality Award. I'm afraid he's toast.


Didn't they officially change the name of that award last season to "The Gute Award"? Aw, I hope he doesn't go this week. I don't watch food reality shows, with the exception of a few episodes of Top Chef on an airplane this summer, so I don't know anything about his divo reputation except what I've read here. He sure hasn't come off as a divo on this show, at least from what we've seen (who knows what goes on backstage), with the exception of the cell phone bit. And that could have been staged for the segment. He seems very charming, and when he's on the dance floor he's having a good time. Loved the look on his face when he was playing the drums on Karina's belly tonight (who can blame him?). She seems to be really enjoying their partnership, maybe because she knows they don't have a chance of winning so she is just relaxing and enjoying herself.
spicegurrl
The judges were on crack tonight. Twink Cody was awful. He tripped, stumbled, and bungled his way through that dance. I'm surprised he didn't fall on his ass too. His footwork was a mess. It was uncomfortable to watch.

Brooke bores me. She just doesn't have "It". Derek's mugging is annoying. His face looks ghoulish. He comes off like such a douche during those non-dance segments.

Lance needs to lay off the eye liner. It's distracting, and not in a good way.

Rocco is the gayest man on this show, which is saying a lot since Cody and Lance are still there. That hot pink frou frou frock he was wearing was even more queeny than his cream puff blouse from last week. Who is dressing him? RuPaul and Miss Jay?
spanana
I didn't find Brooke's Samba raunchy at all. She's just built that way, she does the moves and it looks sexy.

I agree. I was actually a bit surprised when that was Len's critique. On Brooke's body (and little clothing), the samba is going to look sexy. She's got curves. Give someone like Stacey Kiebler the same samba moves and samba outfit and while it's still sexy, her body type is completely different and it doesn't come off so over the top.
PBGamer89
Well I had heard rumors of Rocco being gay in the past few years. He's been "seen" canoodling and hanging around gay guys and it doesn't take a scientist to realize he has effeminate mannerisms.

As far as Cody being gay, I did get a little inkling but if he is gay, as long as he's on HM and affiliated with Disney, he's straight.
O2Sean
The Hustle, Jitterbug, Salsa, and West Coast Swing next week? I don't have a good feeling about this


Lacey had a very good Hustle during her time on SYTYCD. Brilliant partner work. I don't care very much about seeing these dances move into what was a ballroom show, or seeing this mediocre group given these difficult dances (I don't want to see Cody trip and screw up and then get rave reviews yet again), but I do want to see some of the pro demos.

I hope they don't add lindy hop. That dance is almost impossible unless someone is highly trained.
I completely agree. Rocco is a chef, he's not an entertainer or an athlete who's used to using their body (that sounds dirty), and they won't cut him a break.


Didn't Rocco get great reviews for his mambo and for his awful V. waltz? I think they've been more than fair to someone who has not improved a lick in a month of dancing.
harvestbasket
but I do want to see some of the pro demos.
I miss the days when the show actually had demos for upcoming dances. I would love to see it for this upcoming week. Also the judges' comments on what they are looking for in the dances.

As for the hustle, I cannot see how it can be done well without lifts. Of course, if there are examples that show otherwise, I stand corrected.
AuroraAustralis
... if she's supposed to be fierce, it did not show in that tango. Susan always looks fragile and hesitant.
My thoughts exactly.

I like to watch Brook best because with Toni and Susan and all the gals I just see them thinking and concentrating and I'm nervous for them.

So this is the time of the season when the scores cease having anything to do with the dance we see. Maybe it's how they did in rehearsal? Nah, it's all manipulation of votes and standings.

Anyone have any insights what was up with Kym's costume there at the end? Warren looked like his eyes were about to pop out. The judges all looked sympathetic and understanding. Kym was pulling up at her waistband (if you can call it that when it's so low on the hips) and then holding her hands in front of her bottoms. Then when it was time to go backstage Warren snapped her around so fast. I re-watched it but everything looked fine to me. ???

I loved Carrie Ann's dress.

Sam's hair had a freaky Princess Leia quality when she was interviewing.
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