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TWoP Tennison
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Oliver collapses and reveals he only has 24 hours to live; in his delirium, Oliver flashes back to when he first learned to use a bow and arrow, and the first time he met Tess; Chloe shocks Clark when she decides to use her powers to save Oliver.
Adela1985
Another Tess being a bad ass bitch. I love it.

Lois saying she can't handle a guy with a hero complex. Lord woman, than Superman ain't for you.

Chlark was fabulous as always especially Clark being all freaked out about Brainiac infecting Chloe.

Chloom always made of win.

Lois clearly still has feeling for Ollie.

Overall, I was a bit bored because Ollie doesn't really interest me.

I hope we get to see more of how Tess became who she is and how she got with lex.
Sue Denim
I asked this question a few days ago in the Spoilers section:

I'm not sure why I should be excited for Toxic right now. Is it because Clark wears a tie at the function with Chloe. Please remind me.



Here's a reply

Oh there's several reasons!
1. Chlark investigate together. Reporters, yay! In evening wear! Yum!
2. Clark learns about her super-processing. Cue concerned, guilty farmboy and him all hurt that she didn't tell him *this* either, and him saying, "Chloe..." in that pitiful/adorable way he has.
3. LOLLIE.
4. Sick, shirtless Oliver Queen. YAY for hot boytorture!
5. No Jimmy Fucking Olsen


1. This was not old school Chlark investigating, Why the FUCK are you yelling at Chloe, Clark!

2. This was underplayed. I suspect it will come back soon.

3. Lollie--better than expected, but not very sexy.

4. LEECHES!!!

5. I never thought I'd miss the fuck!wit.

That was a huge piece of shit.

At least I have Lois volunteering herself to third wheel with her coffee drinking.
kenm
Tess is my new favourite character. I hope she spends the season murdering everybody else, one at a time, and bathing in their blood.

Writers, please, please don't screw her up.
CtLady
Lois: "Spare me a ride on the Clark & Lana rollercoaster"

Me: YES!


Where can I get a 'NoMercy' license plate??

Pretty good episode. Nice backstory on Ollie and Tess. And, was anyone else sensing the 'Yay' when Clark and Davis were fretting over Ollie in the beginning?
DigiKing
Do I love Tess? Seriously, am I calling her Tess in earnest rather than Gi-No? Holy mackerel, that was amazing. And then when she tells the cabbie to take the guy to the hospital...wow.

And wasn't it said that Clark would never be taken to task for his "friendship" with Lionel? I guess this puts "St. Lionel" to rest. I think PS3 reads the forums.
Firebunny
I'm had a really hard time paying attention to this episode. Seduko was more interesting.

The only scene that really kept my attention was the one where Chloe was looking at the computer screens and Clark was questioning her, figuring out that Brainiac infected her. The music, the way it was acted, kind of creepy. I wish they had gotten back to that later in the episode.
Bkwurm
There are aspects of Toxic that I loved...and none of them involved Lois.

I'm giddy over Tess telling Oliver about what Lionel did and am over the moon with what Ollie said to Clark and (Also laughing over how scary he tried to make the misquitoes sound.) Clark is afraid of everything and even Chloe is getting sick of him.

Funny that Chloe even tried to pretend her super computer wasn't something to freak about. Like he wasn't going to notice. I don't mind Chloe yelling at Clark, but it is annoying that it doesn't get addressed or that they even talk to each other for the rest of the episode (I mean Onscreen, not offscreen conversations) I like that Clark and Davis are the only ones that know her secret, of course she is not telling Jimmy, why would she? It's not like she has reason to trust him.

That reminds me. Trust sure did get brought up alot by everyone tonight.
chlarkspuffy
Chloe hasn't learned anything about keeping secrets yet? Why would she keep it from Jimmy unless of course Brainiac is to blame.

This was such a boring episode. I wish they'd stop with the anvils.

One thing that did stick out at me is that Chloe was still the one investigating and saving the day with Clark. :)

The "NoMercy" scene at the end was very cool and Luthorish.
Adela1985
Why the FUCK are you yelling at Chloe, Clark!


Because he was concerned and Chloe was just brushing it off like it was nothing. If I was Clark, I too would be in the same prediciment.
jediknight
It's official Tess is indeed Mercy. Which is awesome. I liked that she killed the guy that attempted to kill her and Ollie. Much, much better character than Lana. And Davis is a much better character than Lana. I honestly thought both additions wouldn't be that good, but they've been awesome.

I also enjoyed that Clark is worried about Chloe. Good job Smallville not brushing that under the rug. I also like that Davis seemed a little taken aback by all of that. Speaking of Chloe, she looked excellent in that dress.

One other thing, can anyone explain why CW would go with a show about Dick Grayson before he became Robin, instead of a Green Arrow show. This episode just solidifies that Green Arrow should get his own show. There's enough story there, and it can easily take the place of Smallville.
Bkwurm
can anyone explain why CW would go with a show about Dick Grayson before he became Robin, instead of a Green Arrow show.


My theory is he is too old for them already. Idiots. Which reminds me...

Man, the bitch was back tonight! I can’t believe how Lois spoke to Chloe when she thought Oliver was drunk. “Ticktock!” Wow, I used to at least like the cousin vibe, but she was awful to Chloe, exactly like I would expect her to be to Clark. Absolutely no respect. Treating her like a brain dead servant. Just waaaay over the top.
Durq
Oliver's final speech is the single oddest collection of non-sequiturs I've ever heard on this show: from (justified) anger that Clark didn't tell him Lionel caused his parents' death, right into a bizarre diatribe about mosquitoes and Clark's need to find his inner island. HUH? TW looked properly bemused throughout.

I always like over-acting guest villains and Marcus gobbled the scenery to perfection. But can we have one main villain that's not a conflicted woobie? It diminishes Tess if she turned Evil because Ollie broke her poor little heart.

Kudoes to the main performers in this episode: Justin Hartley's nipples, calves, pecs, arms, buttocks and bangs.

Clark: "Lex never gives up on a project!" And you’d know, baby!
Jinnie
And, was anyone else sensing the 'Yay' when Clark and Davis were fretting over Ollie in the beginning?


My CW affiliate lost sound during that (seriously, titles-first commercial break? no sound!). Share?
chlarkspuffy
Oliver's final speech is the single oddest collection of non-sequiturs I've ever heard on this show: from (justified) anger that Clark didn't tell him Lionel caused his parents' death, right into a bizarre diatribe about mosquitoes and Clark's need to find his inner island. HUH? TW looked properly bemused throughout.


Good to know I wasn't the only one lost there.

Also, perhaps the island reference is foreshadowing the Chloiac stuff to come?
Captain Pants
Man, the bitch was back tonight! I can’t believe how Lois spoke to Chloe when she thought Oliver was drunk. “Ticktock!” Wow, I used to at least like the cousin vibe, but she was awful to Chloe, exactly like I would expect her to be to Clark. Absolutely no respect. Treating her like a brain dead servant. Just waaaay over the top.

I'd say it was payback for all of the times that Chloe was a massively annoying bitch to Lois.
Coconut
Lex who? Tess is awesome, finally a villian that actually kills people. NoMercy indeed.

Ollie and Tess had more chemistry then Lois and Oliver ever had.

Where did Chloe go half the time? One scene she was in the back on the computer and next scene she was no where to be found with no explaintion of where she went.

I also wish we could've gotten more scenes with Clark and Chloe about her new power.

Chloe if you are you trying to keep a secret you should've just told Davis you were a genius, he believed it. Or he's just hot and she couldn't help it.

Tess/Ollie and Chloe/Davis, what kind of person does it make me if I want the good guys to hook up with the villians?
acampbell
I should probably just keep my yap shut, but I thought this ep was AWFUL Not being an Ollie fan (an understatement) I wasn't expecting to like this ep, but yesterday and today I kept telling myself: "It won't be as bad as you're expecting." I vowed to give it, and Ollie, one more shot.

I vote "Toxic" aptly titled and worse than "Sleeper." Worse than "Static." Darn near as bad as "Promise," though in a drastically different way.

I dislike Oliver Queen for the same reason I grew to loathe Lana: everyone acts like he's this big hero, when it's not what I've seen. I'm also tired of his talking smack to Clark on Clark's show. I hated the way he treated Lex back in S6 and I hate the way he still treats Clark.

Suit!Clark looked good; if they'd give him a pair of glasses, he'd look just like Iconic!Clark Kent.

Lois was funny until she started going all emo over her relationship with Oliver. I love that she and Tess dislike each other and they're going to be fun together! Hopefully.

I find suddenly-genuis Chloiac immensely boring and ridiculous. She left me COLD in this ep, but then, I'm not a huge Chloe fan.

Chloom: no spark at all this week. However did they manage that?

Crap:

Oliver being in Lex's house and referring to Lex as "his greatest enemy."

And referring to Clark as: "The son Lionel never had." What the hell does that mean? Lionel had a son, named Lex. I know he was Evil Incarnate, but still--Plus: isn't Lucas Luthor still out there somewhere?

"There were MOSQUITOES. That ate me ALIVE." *snort*

I HATE that Oliver's STILL castigating Clark for not being a hero. I can't buy into their friendship, but apparently Ollie is a lot better friend than Lex was? Just because they tell us so?

Do we really need to see another woman after Clark next week? I mean, we all know he looks good in a suit...

What's made this season work for me so far is the Clois. I enjoy the show when Clark and Lois are on my screen. I haven't seen anything else to engage me yet. I liked Chloom last week but it wasn't there tonight. And certainly not Oliver Queen. I usually try not to diss him too much because I know a lot of my fandom friends like him, but I just thought this ep really sucked, and I still can't stand him.

I'm very disappointed with what they gave us tonight, because I really enjoyed "Plastique," except for Bette.
kitmerlot
AM did look lovely--I liked her dress and her hair was just adorable. I also liked that she was linked to journalism twice this episode, and that she was the one who discovered the cure for Ollie's poisoning.

EDLois, on the other hand, spent the episode, trying to order people around, trying to look tought, and crying over Ollie. And as attractive as ED looks in her professional outfits and darker hair, I will never forget that she had sex with her editor and suffered no consequences for it, and that she is not a "seasoned, worked from the bottom up" reporter that this show is trying to portray this season.

I did like that Chloe mentioned her new super-intelligence as the only good benefit she's ever received from being infected. She's trying not to be overly freaked out, and it looks like Davis is the only person she is letting see her real fear. Interesting.

The Tess?/Oliver backstory was cool, and Tess is a complete badass--Awesome!

All in all, an okay episode.
Bkwurm
Also, perhaps the island reference is foreshadowing the Chloiac stuff to come?


My thought for certain.

So Lois is allergic to puppies and kittens. I guess that rules out kind to furry animals on her list of good attributes.

So a little more of the good...I think the flashbacks were done very well. I liked the transitions and Tess really got to me. Cassidy really brought the emotion while on the island which made her current scenes kind of stiff by comparison. Is it wrong that I was cheering when she brought down her kidnapper? He did murder her best friend in front of her, not to mention everyone else that had been on that boat. Still, I have a feeling that Tess knew exactly how Oliver would react to finding out about his parents and plotted accordingly.

Oh, why did Clark need an antidote when leeches would have worked just as well? Find the nearest bait and tackle shop and you are all hooked up. Where did Chloe disappear to while Oliver was dying and then getting the antidote? She figures it out, but doesn't get to react to the save even though she is supposed to be right there in the next room? Huh? I don't get the logic.
Mr Enigma
Good episode for what it was. I always think it's good to do background episodes on new characters and this one was for Tess. The promo for next week though was my favorite part, hopefully the sort of play Maxima up like they did on the animated series(one of my fav episodes)
chlarkspuffy
Truth be told I was cringing a lot throughout the episode. Ok, so that's been the case for a while now, but this was a good example of how weak this show is when it comes to putting forward a coherent story with good dialogue and no character assassinations. They aren't even trying anymore.
craptonite
I'll skip my rants for this episode since they'll apply to every episode this season.

Some good stuff

Papa Luthor shout out!

Tess being a cold hearted vengeful bitch. And I guess she really is Mercy

Ignoring how poorly she got into the DP, Lois is looking very Iconicy this season.


Since I skipped the previous episode this is my first time seeing Doomsday and he and Chloe have great chemisty

Some nice Clois stuff.
Bkwurm
Is it just me or did TW acting seem really forced and stiff in that ending convo with Lois? He has some nuance in the beginning, like the expression on his face when she snatched he coffee away, but when he was trying to give her advice, I just started cringing. I was having a hard time even understanding what he was saying.
Adela1985
Is it just me or did TW acting seem really forced and stiff in that ending convo with Lois?


When the Isis scene where Clark placed his hand on Lois, Tom did this sort of face that looked like he didn't know how to react to it. Throughtout the whole episode if felt like he was trying to force some emotion into the scenes with Lois.
marikology
Here's a reply


Oh there's several reasons!
1. Chlark investigate together. Reporters, yay! In evening wear! Yum!
2. Clark learns about her super-processing. Cue concerned, guilty farmboy and him all hurt that she didn't tell him *this* either, and him saying, "Chloe..." in that pitiful/adorable way he has.
3. LOLLIE.
4. Sick, shirtless Oliver Queen. YAY for hot boytorture!
5. No Jimmy Fucking Olsen


1. This was not old school Chlark investigating, Why the FUCK are you yelling at Chloe, Clark!

2. This was underplayed. I suspect it will come back soon.

3. Lollie--better than expected, but not very sexy.

4. LEECHES!!!

5. I never thought I'd miss the fuck!wit.

That was a huge piece of shit.

At least I have Lois volunteering herself to third wheel with her coffee drinking.


I'm sorry, SueDenim! I suck at spec, I thought it would be okay!

It was fucking boring, full of awkward Cloisy anvils, a mention of Lana's damn videotape and Chlark fighting. :-( Sick, shirtless Ollie didn't even save it.

However, I did like Ollie yelling at Clark about how he hasn't "been on his island" yet. I hope Clark's island involves a certain tiny blonde!

And I said it last week: Tess is bad as the po-lice.
Adela1985
a mention of Lana's damn videotape


That really made Clark look like a huge ... well you know. I imagined him with a carton of cookie dough ice cream and a box of tissues.

As for the Chlark, I throughly enjoyed Clark just freaking out about Chloe's new power and wanting to get rid of it right away.

Plus you can't beat Lois again showing us why she will never be able to handle being Superman's right hand woman.
Chlarkolate
It seemed like Chloe was trying to point out that Clark and Lois have a thing because they spend so much time together. Jimmy is rubbing off on her. God this show sucks sometimes.

On the plus side, she did seem slightly jealous about it.

Still like Dooms.

So Chloe's comment about how she would do exactly like Clark asked if it was him lying dying on the sofa instead of Oliver? Foreshadowing much?
Bkwurm
Plot holes are starting to leap out at me. Clark and Chloe attend a ritzy fundraiser in evening wear, it was night out and Oliver tells them that he has 12 hours to live. So let's be really generous and say the event started a 5pm. Oliver's heart stopped, he was dead, so I assume this means 12 hours ticked by. During that time, Tess is at her office all night wating to look into Clark's green eyes (one point for the show on that one...they soo have been reading these forums) Fast forward to the next morning and Lois having "worked all night". Huh? Oliver flatlines around 5 am going by how long he had to live, Lois goes right to the office and everyone says she was out all night? Alternatively, Oliver dies much earlier and then we have to know why he didn't last the 12 hours.

Another wonky timeline brought to you by Smallville.

It seemed like Chloe was trying to point out that Clark and Lois have a thing because they spend so much time together. Jimmy is rubbing off on her. God this show sucks sometimes.

On the plus side, she did seem slightly jealous about it.


How can I give up on wanting Chlark and that partnership when Chloe looks so heartsick over not being where Lois is? Oh and as much as I enjoy not having to sit through the monotony that would be Lois listing off more rules she has broken while she insults Clark and steals his stories, why, once again, does TPTB choose to tell me about how much time they are spending together rather than actually showing any of it? Did the fast forward just happen and I missed it?
Denebola
Oliver's final speech is the single oddest collection of non-sequiturs I've ever heard on this show

Ha! To be fair though, Ollie was drunk. The writer, on the other hand, has no excuse.

You know, there's nothing quite like a sudden headshot on network television that puts me in a good mood. Yeah, I felt bad after, but damn, do I love when Smallville gets violent. We need more of that stuff - it raises the stakes. Tess is awesome, loved her fighting back and then coming back to kill Marcos(?). The Ollie stuff bored me though. And that scene with Chloe and those monitors creeped me the hell out. Very off-putting. That ain't Chloe.

Overall, it felt like filler. But it had a few bright spots. And Lois was mostly ignorable, so yay.
Adela1985
does TPTB choose to tell me about how much time they are spending together rather than actually showing any of it?


Well they know where the real relationship is and why all the true focus on Chlark.
Chlarkolate
I liked that Tess has a bracelet to remind her of her friend. I wonder if any other bracelets we've seen before we'll make an appearance this season.

Thank you, PTB, for including a wet JH in tonight's episode. We're 2 for 3 with the weekly wet quota. Plastique didn't have it but I suppose we can replace wet with sooty once in a while.

Loved Tess' line about Lex's projects being named after constellations.

Loved that Tess played Lois in her office. Has LL never heard of reverse psychology? Probably not, since apparently she hasn't heard that it's bad judgement (not to mention bad manners) to barge into your boss' office and interrupt a meeting, especially when she already doesn't like you.
wirebiter
Everything between Nois and Clark felt fake. I personally think Clark looks better in flannel. He looks like he's had the life sucked out of him. If the makeup department has been responsible for that fresh look all these seasons they need to get those people back to work on Clark. Tess is awesome. So all the cartoons about Green Arrow the CW had on the website a few years ago are bullshit? Would have been nice to know before I bothered watching them. Can Nois's clothes get any tighter? I don't get where Clark thinks he has enough life experience to be giving advice, esp about relationships.
TWoP Tennison
However, I did like Ollie yelling at Clark about how he hasn't "been on his island" yet.

I was waiting to see if Clark was going to yell back, "I've been on an island! In space!"

I thought I saw the episode from the beginning, but did I miss something? When was Oliver poisoned? On the island and in the baddie's cab, the effects of the poison seemed immediate, but Oliver looked fine walking into the party. Was it in his drink? How would he automatically know exactly what poison it was?
wwg23
I loved Chloe in this eppy. She's freaked out about this new "power" but she's able to put aside her issues and figure out what's wrong with Ollie.

Chloe saying that Cnois spend a lot of time together and hinting something else is ridiculous considering how much time she and Clark have spent together over the years. Yeah, yeah - ICONIC!

Clark looked good in a suit. Like someone else mentioned, I thought the Clark/Nois stuff was forced too.

I love Tess. The actress looked goreous on the island and then looked really tough and bitchy at the mansion.

Ollie has grown on me - except for his berating Clark at every turn.

Nois was a bully. First to Clark (ICONIC!) but also to Chloe and Davis. "Tick tock"? Calling Davis dimples and ordering him to save Ollie? Like he wouldn't do it being a paramedic and all. She was superfluous as usual. ED's trying way too hard.

I still don't get why she and Ollie can't be together (other than it's not ICONIC!).

ETA:
she hasn't heard that it's bad judgement (not to mention bad manners) to barge into your boss' office and interrupt a meeting, especially when she already doesn't like you.

She's just used to the special treatment after being with Grant.
Chlarkolate
Good thing Clark is somewhat naive and not the kind to sue: Tess is just asking for a sexual harassment charge.
Artie M
How did Ollie know he was poisoned and had 12 hours to live?

I thought the Chlark argument at Isis was poorly acted by both TW & AM. Unusual.

Lois is a big lead anchor dragging down every scene she’s in. I don’t blame ED this time. No one could have pulled off the lame dialog she had in this ep. And I liked her back in S4/5.

The flashback was good. They should have devoted more time to it.

I like the new additions. I miss MR, but if we take the average contribution of Lex & Lana and compare that with the average of Tess & Davis, we may be a little bit ahead.
Paul Servo
They got Green Arrow's origin mostly right (the Tess factor was just a cool addition). Well done PS3. Well done indeed!

Good thing Clark is somewhat naive and not the kind to sue: Tess is just asking for a sexual harassment charge.

I'd agree with you, but Tess can sexually harass me anytime so I really can't. *L*

Tess's friend getting shot: That was brutal for the 8pm hour. Not that I am complaing though (I just bought RAMBO4, so that should say something), just shocked that it happened.
Gen7
How did Hartley not laugh his ass off with the MOSQUITOS EATING ME ALIVE! line he had to deliver. Come on SV writers.

Come to think of it, a lot of the dialog in this episode felt clunky and forced.

I enjoyed the flashbacks. Lois was unecessary again. Tess is cool. AM And TW seemed off tonight in the argument scene as well.
AceReporter
Also, perhaps the island reference is foreshadowing the Chloiac stuff to come?


I was thinking the exact same thing, chlarkspuffy! I actually think that that scene was the best one in the episode; besides the Chlark ones. As soon as Oliver said that it made me think of something that is going to bring Clark to the brink, ie Chloiac. It's definitely foreshadowing.

I thought it was cool that Chloe always thought that she was going to be the one who was going to correct Clark's typos:( Someone (re: TPTB) need to get Chloe back in the DP,asap! That line was soo sad.

Overall, good episode. But why is it that the CW always need to pimp the Cnois in the promos?
Nat0117
I see I'm in the minority, but I actually liked it. I do admit though that my enjoyment lately has been hanging on the number of anvils I find myself dodging in an episode, and this one didn't seem too bad.

I LOVED that Chloe is starting to shoe clear signs of a Brainiac infection beyond the intelligence. The way she called Clark out for his self-deprecation and penchant for the mopey guilt was awesome. That was NOT Chloe but it was subtle.

Nois has feelings for Oliver that are unresolved. Considering his chemistry with Tess, I'm feeling like that's a triangle we'll see more of. Anything to reduce the Clois anvils is welcome.

It's been mentioned, but Chloe pretty much told Clark that she'll shave her head and let him call her Lex. Yowza. More of that, please.

A competent villain? Jarring displays of violence that a show about good and evil should probably give us once in a while? Continuity? When some of the best performances (and characters) are given by actors who've been brought on in the 11th hour of the series, it's a sad reminder of what the show could've been. I don't know if the blame lay at the feet of Goughlar for sacrificing the quality of the show at Lana's altar or if PS3 struck gold with CF, SW, and even JH, but this should be a lot shittier than it is. Man, who knew JH could really act? However, how on earth did the mosquito line slip past final editing? That line went over like a fart in church. Ouch.

I also cringed at Clark's yelling "You're getting smarter!" at Chloe. I know he was talking about the Brainiac infection, but considering that it came from the BDA just made it sound awful, considering that horrid disgust with which he said it. Stupid knowledge! Also, I call bullshit that Clark made the leap so quickly. And what a hypocrite he is re: keeping the secret about Oliver's parents, because MAN did Clark used to bitch Lex out for giving anything but the full disclosure on all things.

Chloe did seem jealous about Clois, thankfully. At least she's in there somewhere. I liked how when Clark has is ginormous hand on Nois' shoulder, Chloe was shown standing between them in the background. Nice touch there.
Firebunny
Is it just me or did TW acting seem really forced and stiff in that ending convo with Lois?
I hate to say this, because I adore Tom Welling, but that last scene was awful, I mean cringe worthy bad acting.

Last week I felt like ED was pushing it too hard, trying to create chemisty that isn't there, and it came off as creepy, like an older sister checking out her brother. This week it was TW's turn to try to force it. It was awkward. Just... bad. (I'm making a stinky face thinking about it.)


why is it that the CW always need to pimp the Cnois in the promos?
They pimped Clois? All I remember is Clark nipple.
Coconut
What is Lois' part on this show again? Other then having an iconic name. She doesn't do anything to move the plot along. I could care less who she's falling in love with every episode.

I loved her "I know Oliver better then anyone if he said no hospitals then there is a reason" speech when Chloe just said the same thing to Clark. With that, she's not even the slightest bit curious as to why Chloe and Oliver are so close. What kind of reporter is she?

Lois sit on her ass giving uncreative nicknames to people. while Chloe looks for what's wrong with Oliver and then Clark saves the day. Why is she here? Even Davis does more and he's only been in two episodes.

I suppose Chloe's lucky her cousin likes sitting on her ass and not wandering into the next room where Chloe's doing her superpowered research and disapearing act.
wwg23
How did Hartley not laugh his ass off with the MOSQUITOS EATING ME ALIVE! line he had to deliver.

He did deliver it rather oddly. It took me out of the show for a bit.
Adela1985
I suppose Chloe's lucky her cousin likes sitting on her ass and not wandering into the next room where Chloe's doing her superpowered research and disapearing act.


I have to say that's my WTF moment. I mean how did Lois not manage to hear Chlark arguing about Brainiac and infection and not coming baring in demanding to know what what going on? I doubt Isis is so big that the computer station and where Ollie was laying was too far apart for Lois to hear anything.
Lantern7
Is it a bad thing when the bottom three people shown in the credits outperform everybody else?

I liked the episode, since it kept the spirit of Green Arrow's canon. I'm also happy there's not a GA series, only because Ollie's Bale-As-Batman hero voice grates. And I'm now getting the Tess Mercer --> Mercy connection, and I feel stupid for not getting it earlier. And not to my surprise, but Lois still grates.

Next week looks very awesome . . . MAXIMA! Of course, it'll probably suck a watermelon through a straw, but I can dream, right?
MsSullivan
You know, its not as bad if you fast forward through the episode.

I liked the chlark fights, I know I'm in the minority there. I just like it because its real, these kinds of arguments happen and it just makes them more real. I like that she tried to hide her concern about chloiac to Clark but we heard about them when she was with Davis. She just wants to spare Clark from further guilt/angst about what is happening to her.

AM looked beautiful through the whole episode. Clark continues to look handsome in his suits. And Davis? I think I love him.

Chloom! That last scene was cute.

Chlark? we better get some good chlark next week because this had nothing compared to Odyssey and Plastique.

Nois. STFU. Already.
jimmy4
Piercing green eyes? Ok, now I am more than convinced that this is a reboot. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for them realizing that TW's eyes are green and all, but after seven years of saying onscreen that he has baby-blue eyes? Why not just put TW in blue contact lenses? It wouldn't require a reboot, plus it would solve that little discrepancy.

oh, also I hate Clark and Nois. They deserve one another.

I'm probably in the minority but I love Ollie! I especially loved him in this episode. Chloe-- well, I love the girl, but she really did not have that much screentime today. Sadly, Nois as annoying as she is, is apparently the ILL of this series. Tonight's episode convinced me of that. And I just realized that Chloe will be Clark's island, that is she will die and this will make Clark become his Iconic self. Tess and Davis continue to be my two new loves this season. I want Chloom and Tess/Ollie (Olless? Tolliver? Tellie?).

Summary: Boring episode saved by JH's chest and well great body, and Tess/Davis' scenes. I did not even like the Chlark scenes all that much. TW is looking way much older lately.
Darth Pipes
I thought Ollie's backstory was way too rushed and poorly edited. We see him shooting arrows with not much discernable change in his appearance, then the drug dealers come and all of a sudden we learn Ollie's been on the island for two years? WTF? They can do a lot better with that.

But this episode was really a strong one for Tess. She's has a strong scene with Clark and a stronger one with Ollie, setting up an interesting dynamic between the two. Then she dips into the badass pool by killing that guy at the end. Awesome.

Speaking of badass, what about that guy putting a bullet in her friend's head? Even without the blood, that was a pretty intense kill for Smallville.

I also really enjoyed Ollie learning the truth about his parents death and taking it out (rightly) on Clark for never telling him and really, when you think about it, protecting Lionel. Though his usual rants about Clark not caring don't hold up as well considering Clark has been much more pro-active this season. Also liked the further use of Chloe's powers and Davis Bloom.

One more thing I'd like to add. I agree with the poster who said they don't understand why the CW doesn't go with a Green Arrow spinoff instead of this idiotic Graysons one. Let's look at the facts. Ollie has been well-established by many appearances on Smallville over the past two years. I believe his one appearance on Smallville last year scored very well in the ratings. You have a bunch of characters from Smallville, starring and guest-starring a like, that could appear on the show. The CW likes Justin Hartley and has been trying to get him a show of his own for a while. So I ask again...why haven't they spun off The Green Arrow?

Maybe they want to creat another emo-brat and call him Dick Grayson. Television today loves emo-brats...just look at John Connor.
Bitterswete
This show has become one big freaking love-octagon. I mean Tess, who seems to have some sort of thing for Clark, had a thing with Ollie, who had a thing with Lois, who still has feelings for Ollie but also seems to be developing a thing for Clark, who has an unresolved thing with Chloe, who is engaged to Jimmy, who is jealous of Clark, and will no doubt be jealous of Davis, who has a definite thing for Chloe...

It's just ridiculous. Apparantly, a group of grown adults can't interact without all sorts of triangles, squares and hexagons popping up.

Also, the Clois is really starting to feel like it's being crammed down my throat. I was willing to go along with it or, at the very least, ignore it. Or even enjoy it if it was handled well. But count me in as one who thinks it feels really forced now and, as a result, awkward as heck.
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