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The second week of performances
harvestbasket
The show must never repeat this format again. That lost day of rehearsal showed in the dances today. In doing so, it showed the contenders and pretenders. The contenders are Brooke, Toni, Misty and Warren, IMO. I also like Maurice as well. Brooke and Toni are the head of the class and even they looked like they could have benefitted from another day of rehearsals. The two best performances came early (Toni and Brooke) and so I had plenty of time to vote for them particularly for Brooke since she has the more questionable fan base. Lovely rumba but I went "eek" when I saw the lifts as I knew CA would point them out. I loved the balance not overdoing the drama and aggression in Brooke's paso and Derek needs to dance the paso more often. I know not everyone loves the Houghs, but I adore Julianne and Derek's support for each other. I hope both of them survive tomorrow without hitting the bottom 2 because I really want those two in the finals. I do not care who wins between those two in the end.

No need to say more about Kim than what has been said by the judges. I was bothered more by Samantha saying the judges were harsh when I thought they were not tough at all. They were constructive and nothing like the comments they said to Billy Ray or Marissa. If Kim's dancing did not make it appear as though she does not want to be there, her body language in showed it. Kim was busy looking at her bracelet during that backstage interview and I noticed when Warren came backstage, she looked bored until she spotted the camera of course.

Brooke and Maurice was the new BFF of the season. They are cute backstage and she looked sad for him when he got his scores.

I just cannot care for Lancey because I just do not think Lance is that great of a dancer. I could care less of Lacey's "edgy" approach. Lance just is not that great.

As much as I want an all-female final 3 of Misty, Brooke and Toni, I have a feeling Warren will make it and fulfilll the designated NFL player spot in the finals.
tolliveramc
Some not-so-great dances tonight and some pretty good ones, but no outright disasters. Still, I wouldn't be sad to see Kim or Cloris leave, even if I think poor Rocco will precede them.

Curious song choices, though. "Waiting on the World to Change" and "Mercy, Mercy Me" for the rhumba? Ugh. I found it interesting that Lance said they tried to make the song they received ("I Kissed a Girl") work. I thought they had done a very amusing, ironic take on it, but I find it beyond annoying that they were assigned that song. What's next, "Endless Love"?
spanana
I do not like Lance and I hope Kim is the one to go tomorrow night. I'll be sad if anyone else goes in her place, except maybe Cloris.

I also still don't get Misty's dancing. She has the attack, yes. While Maks gave her a tough routine, I thought she spent most of the routine looking awkward, off balance and like a deer in headlights. Yet she gets almost all praise. I like her, but not a fan of her dancing as yet.

I didn't think Maurice was as bad as they claimed either. The hip action wasn't there, but very few of the male celebs ever get the hip action and he was at least better than I expected.
tip and fall
Wow, Brooke actually got appropriate paso doble music! Song choices really do help a lot (to state the obvious) -- actually, I don't know if it was "appropriate" for a paso or not, but I loved it regardless, especially the string crescendo. I didn't notice the timing problems that Carrie Ann pointed out, but that's not really my forte anyway.

When Lacey said, "Len will want to see something really traditional," you know she was mentally adding, "...that old fart." And while I do think Len is a grouch sometimes, those two spent way too much of rehearsal obsessing over his critique. Of course, that could have been the result of the editors. Still, it was annoying to hear the constant asides and PA remarks.

Kim was still way too stiff. I can dance more naturally than that, and I suck as a dancer. At this point, I want her to be kicked off because I'm worried that if they stay on much longer, Mark will inevitably be driven to a meltdown the way Derek was with Shannon. He was cool as a cucumber tonight, but I envision him snapping after week four or five.

Carrie Ann. Do not poke the crazy and encourage Cloris to bring her insanity on to the dance floor! That said, I felt sorry for her (Cloris) this week. Seemed like she was trying hard, and she was almost pleading with the judges to go easy on her.
MeeMaw
I think the contenders are beginning to pull away from the pack. IMO, Brooke, Toni, Misti and Warren should be the final 4, but I worry about Toni's questionable fan base. I never vote this early in a season, but I gave Brooke and Toni all my votes tonight.
Tasya
I'm confused as to why the producers would assign Lance/Lacey "I kissed a Girl" for a Paso Doble. It seems like they deliberately give them wild songs and then Len doesn't like the non-traditional delivery. I don't know how anyone could do a Paso Doble to that song. That said I enjoyed it for being exciting but imo Lance is not that strong of a dancer. When I compare Lacey to the other Pros I don't see glaring differences, but Lance is not as strong as I initially thought he was going to be. His form is not sharp and he doesn't hold positions. I don't know technical aspects of dance but maybe someone else can explain it better than I.

I disliked Kim K.s dance immensely and I think it's crap that Len gave them a 7 while still giving L/L a 6. Kim K may as well have stood still for all the effort she put into that dance. I also didn't really care for M/M, I thought Misty was sloppy.

I think that Brooke is overrated, I find her boring. I really liked Kym and Warren they were my favorite tonight.

Funny moments: Julianne and Kym laughing/making a face during Brooke's talking, she seems pompous to me so maybe they were just having a moment but it seemed to me as if they were definitely making some silent communication there. Then Julianne and Lacey's quick glances at each other with small smiles as Kim K. was err talking. She makes no sense and is really vapid. Good God I can't wait for her to go.

Cloris continues to be a joke, she should go home already.
WaltzinSpringTm
I completely agree with you on just about every point, harvestbasket. Tonight really showed what a load of b.s. last week was, and all to get another evening of ad revenue off the cash cow. Because of last week, we get a two weak weeks of dancing, instead of just one.

Of the high-ish scorers I think Lance and Cody are both dubious talents. Lance and Lacey are going to have trouble getting some traction under their "We're rebels!" schtick if his actual dance ability is no great shakes. Show you can really do it before you throw it away buddy.

ITA on the contenders. I think Susan and her fan base are a real wild card. I want to see some bottom twos soon so I know what we've got.
PeithosMuse
yeah. they needed the extra day. I think I was watching something other than what the judges were watching. I actually thought Cloris looked better doing her dance than Kim, lord help me.

I also thought Misty looked stiff and her facial expressions came off more as constipated than fierce

And did I seriously just sit through Lance and Lacey dancing to Katie Perry's 'I kissed a girl . . . " just, no

Brooke looked better than the rest, but I still thought it had lots of breaks between movements - not fluid enough

I liked Warren's, but the timing at the end seemed off somehow

I thought Cody and Julianne looked pretty good, but his immaturity is starting to get on my nerves more than it endears him to me - love some of Julianne's reaction shots in the clip package, though

No Rocco - say it aint so! I really wanted him to move forward, not be stuck in a sucky rut

seriously, that's all I remember - I think I might be DWTSed-out
bluvelvet
I guess we still have some cannon fodder to go (looking at you Kim K).. I really liked Brooke and Derek’s paso. I realized that in general I really enjoy his Paso choreography. The tempo, the constumes, the music the lines were all very good. Loved it.

I also liked Toni’ rhumba, but wasn’t fully feeling the chemistry between her and Alec until probably the end of the dance. I thought they had more chemistry last week. However of all the female celebs this week she is more at the top of the pack but Brooke is ahead of her. Misty's Paso had the strength but was missing something and I can't really put my finger on it..I also agreed with Len about her face.

I wanted a more classic paso from Lacey and Lance. If Lacey isn't careful she will get herself voted off, I really liked the parts when they were doing the traditional Paso moves. I am sure when Lacey competes she sticks to the rules. I also am not a fan of the costuming or makeup on this girl, I prefer how she looks in the rehearsal vids. I really liked Cloris and Corky's Paso, or should I say I liked the choreography and the music. However, when Corky and Cloris were getting their scores all I could think was DAMN Mark looks like his daddy!! I wonder what his mother looks like.

The less said about Kim K the better but..did she move her hips at all? When Len said "You have all the gear in the rear" but she sure isn't using it, WORD!

We had the Superman Paso, Star Wars Tango and now we have the Matrix Paso which I loved. Warren is fast becoming my favorite as he looks like he is having a bunch of fun. Seems like someone I would like to hang out with. As for Julian and Cody, he did a good job with his rhumba, I was impressed and thought he moved his hips better than Maurice. I do agree that he needs more control. Also, why do I have an image of a bunch of teeny boppers running out to get twinkies and chicken.
LadyEight
Did anyone else catch Tom B muttering "I liked it better when Mel B did it" as Misty and Mack walked off the dance floor?

And truth be told, so did I. They should retire that costume and dance because no one else does it any better.

And I'd like to say these are my least favorite dances.
applecruncher
Carrie Ann. Do not poke the crazy and encourage Cloris to bring her insanity on to the dance floor! That said, I felt sorry for her (Cloris) this week. Seemed like she was trying hard, and she was almost pleading with the judges to go easy on her.
Yes re: what you said about Carrie Ann.

Cloris seemed to get pissed @ Bruno ("Well, what do you want for nothing> Well, you sould have told me (whatever) ).

Cloris, you're getting the same $$ that the other celebs are (in the range of $150k). I don't call that nothing and it's not like you're destitute.
Sumi
Brooke, Toni, Misti and Warren should be the final 4, but I worry about Toni's questionable fan base.


Toni's fanbase? I'm more worried about Brooke, honestly. I think that she and Toni are kind of in a different league from the others, but I can't imagine that Brooke has any fanbase to speak of. I'm imagining her as a Sabrina-type shock boot, with Misty and Warren becoming the Mel B and Helio of this season, respectively.
Fable
I pretty much thought all of the dances except for Rocco's and Cloris' were at least decent. Brooke and Toni were really good, and Warren and Kim won my appreciation if for nothing else but the costumes (I actually enjoyed the dancing too). I thought Lance and Lacey were pretty good too. Even Susan did pretty well.

I have forgiven Cloris for her behavior. I still don't think she dances well, but at least she tried, and she kept herself in check, so God bless her.

Can't wait to see what is in store for next week.
whiterose23
I also still don't get Misty's dancing. She has the attack, yes. While Maks gave her a tough routine, I thought she spent most of the routine looking awkward, off balance and like a deer in headlights. Yet she gets almost all praise. I like her, but not a fan of her dancing as yet.


That's exactly how I feel. I love Misty but she's making it really hard for me to root for her. I didn't get the praise for the routine, I thought she looked awkward and a bit stiff at certain moments. Her shoulders are still a problem and I hope Maks can do something about them and also make her move more gently on the floor.

I thought Cody and Julianne's rumba was hot (or maybe it was just Julianne's hotness overcompensating for the both of them). I loved that they put Leona's song (the singer didn't butcher it to death, thankfully) to good use. I have a feeling Julianne's just a tad annoyed at Cody's childish behavior though. He's 18 years old; he has to start acting like one.

Warren continues to surprise me and with that dance, he proved that he is one of the contenders. I love watching him dance.

Did anyone else catch Tom B muttering "I liked it better when Mel B did it" as Misty and Mack walked off the dance floor?


I think that was in reference to Mel B. pinching Tom's butt every time they're finished with the judges' comments and they go backstage. Maks might have bumped into Tom on purpose tonight (not sure if he bumped into him or did something else) as an homage to Mel's butt pinching.
Abra
What a rough night. I am actually voting for no one, and I usually vote for at least one person per show.

I am so very disappointed in Brooke and Derek's Paso Doble, mostly because I felt it truly lacked the 'contained aggression' from Brooke that it needed, and I have no idea what the judges were seeing when they said they saw it. Also, I think Brooke is a lovely dancer (and holy hell did the two of them look fantastic tonight) but she seems to always be looking down as if she's thinking in her head of what the next move is going to be, and that ruined it for me. Also didn't get the judges wowing over Warren's performance, it just seemed...wobbly and off too me.

I never thought I'd say this, but at that point in the show Cloris's Paso was a relief to me as I didn't have to cringe or watch it through my fingers. It obviously wasn't terrific dancing, but after most of what I'd seen to that point I was happy to have it. And while Corky has kind of annoyed me to this point, I was totally wowed by all of the cape twirling action he had going on in the middle of the piece.

Poor Misty. I really felt for her frustration and while I guess I can see the judges admiring her intensity, it did not have the performance/entertainment aspect from her previous dances. Len's comment on her expression was right on. Her upper body movement bugs, but I loved the speed and power of her kicks. I want her to cheer up though, she'll get better!

And poor Rocco. That was painful to watch, but at least he tried. And Karina looked lovely.
lovemaks
Did anyone else catch Tom B muttering "I liked it better when Mel B did it" as Misty and Mack walked off the dance floor?

And truth be told, so did I. They should retire that costume and dance because no one else does it any better.

And I'd like to say these are my least favorite dances.





Tom was referring to Maks pinching his butt, (like Mel used to do ) not the dance.
tolliveramc
I forgot ... did Len actually call out Cody at the end as having an erection after the dance? That's certainly what it sounded like ... and not at all appropriate, especially for a "Hannah Montana" star.

ETA: Len's remark was what I found inappropriate, not Cody's physical reaction, if indeed that was the case. It was the rhumba, after all, and that was Julianne who was his partner...
spanana
Most of the supposed frontrunners here have questionable fanbases this time around and this season has less sure things than in seasons past. I would imagine Misty is close to a sure thing for making it towards the end, but beyond that I don't know. Warren I suppose.

I could see a shock boot being Toni or Brooke for that matter and I do agree that Susan Lucci's fanbase could be a real wild card.
Mbeaker
Did anyone else catch Tom B muttering "I liked it better when Mel B did it" as Misty and Mack walked off the dance floor?


LadyEight, I don't think Tom was so insensitive as to refer to the actual dance here---pretty sure he was talking about Maks grabbing his butt after he and Misty were leaving the stage (Mel used to goose Tom all the time).
Tasya
If Lacey isn't careful she will get herself voted off


But how traditional/good of a Paso Doble can you do to that song? I'm still trying to figure out why that would be assigned for that dance. All of the rest of the songs seemed to at least get CLOSE to the feel of the dance except that one. Admittedly I did shower for about 20mins of the show so maybe I missed another song that was that far off base.

I also agree that during rehearsal Lacey looks so pretty, I wish that she would tone down the makeup for the stage. One thing though, I don't think that Lacey has to worry about being the heaviest pro, she can't hold a candle to Cheryl who's busting out all over the place.
Stella MD
I think that Brooke is overrated, I find her boring.

Thank you! Her arms intermittently looked like total awkward crap, too.
rabbitearstv
Tonight was ridiculous. The lack of rehearsal time did no one any favors, including those of us watching. I think next week after a more normal amount of rehearsal time we'll more clearly see who's progressing and who has nowhere to go. Although I think we seen enough to make that judgement about Cloris and Kim.
tip and fall
I forgot ... did Len actually call out Cody at the end as having an erection after the dance? That's certainly what it sounded like ... and not at all appropriate, especially for a "Hannah Montana" star.

I don't think that's what it was. When the camera flipped to Cody, you could see him still sort of grooving back and forth. I think that Len was talking about Cody moving his hips while listening to the judges.
I think that Brooke is overrated, I find her boring.

I don't think she's boring, but I agree she's overrated. I don't think she's as much of an awesome dancer as other stars were in previous seasons, but compared to the stars this season...the designated so-called ringers aren't exactly panning out for some reason (in Lance's case, it could be Lacey's fault), so Brooke has taken up the cause. It's all relative, I guess.
Mbeaker
I have a feeling Julianne's just a tad annoyed at Cody's childish behavior though. He's 18 years old; he has to start acting like one.


whiterose, thank you. I was wondering if anyone else perceived that too--- Julianne seems a bit annoyed at times, and not hiding it too well. Cody does come across as a very young 18.
WaltzinSpringTm
Warren's going to be here a looooong time. He's got the rhythm and he's into it. A lot of them are into the competition, really have their heads in the game, but it's more than that with him - he's enjoying it. It's not just his competitive mode, he really likes getting these dances down. He gets charged up, not worn down.
harvestbasket
Carrie Ann. Do not poke the crazy and encourage Cloris to bring her insanity on to the dance floor!
It bears repeating. No, Carrie Ann.

I disagree about Brooke being pompous and being overrated. I thought she struggled a bit with coming out of her shell, but mileage varies of course. I think since Brooke has no performance background or dance background, it is great to see her dance. For me, if she got 9s today then yeah, I would have said overrated. But for that paso, her score seemed appropriate. Is she as good as Kristi or Drew? No, but they are not comparing her to them either. Though I will say I liked her quickstep more than Kristi's quickstep. For this season, she is a pleasant surprise. I think they are scoring her appropriately.

If it shapes out correctly, Toni, Brooke, Warren and Misty should be the final 4. Based on the audience response, they seemed to respond to those four performances the most as well. I checked Kym and Julianne in the background when Brooke spoke and did not see anything. Maybe I missed it because I just saw Kim and a bored Lacey pretty much. Again YMMV.

I could see a shock boot being Toni or Brooke for that matter and I do agree that Susan Lucci's fanbase could be a real wild card.
This would stink because these two are the only ones bringing the dancing. Compared to female celebs from other seasons, they could compete with them, IMO. I think Misty and Warren probably will make it to the finals. One of these two better as well.
Rocco really regresseed and I felt like four measures passed before he actually danced. While I enjoyed Warren's dance, please nix the pleather paso costumes.

I hope the right folks leave tomorrow which means Kim or Cloris. Hopefully we'll get some better dancing next week. I also think Cody and Lance are receiving dubious scores. It is hard not to look at Julianne, but rewatching just Cody, I thought Maurice was better. Lance is just not impressive as a dancer right now, but it is being hidden under this "Len hates us". Ugh, just work on Lance's technique and form Lacey!
sussudio
Did anyone else catch Tom B muttering "I liked it better when Mel B did it" as Misty and Mack walked off the dance floor?


I totally caught that and I was wondering what Tom was saying. Did Tom really respond to Misty/Maks' dance? Or was it because of Maks' affection towards Tom? I don't remember if Maks pretended to be affectionate towards Tom or not but Mel always pinched his butt or something afterwards.

Could you guys explain why they missed a day of rehearsals? They keep talking about only rehearsing for 3 days instead of 4. Why is that? Did they do this in the previous seasons?

In most of the rhumbas, I was surprised with the lack of hip movement that the stars had. As much as I love Toni/Alec, Toni didn't have a lot of hip movement. However, I did see chemistry between them.

I was disappointed with Misty/Maks. To me, Maks was being way too harsh on her and it showed. I didn't think there were chemistry between them. And I love Misty. She was still rough and I'm wondering if Maks is actually a good partner for her. I don't know if he is.

With Brooke and Derek, I didn't see any passion in Brooke. Sure both of them danced very well and she is naturally a great dancer, but there was no passion or emotion with her. I thought she was just going through the dance and not feeling it.

I loved Warren and Kym's Matrix Dance. I thought it was great and Kym is an excellent choreographer and a dance partner.

With Lacey/Lance - they try too hard to be edgy and rebellious - which hurts them more. I think you can have an edge within the rules of the dance. Kym did it with her Matrix paso-doble. Not Lacey.
spanana
Lacey and Lance were up against a bad song assignment, that is true. But I also think their pre dance package didn't help their cause dance wise. Most of it was about how Len was against them and etc. so I could see how Len went into the dance already predisposed not to like it all that much. I also did think as a couple L/L did have an air about them that they would throw in a few traditional steps so that they would be free of the fuddy duddy's wrath, but then the rest was a free for all. I was pleasantly surprised that Carrie Anne and Bruno called them on it a bit as well. More than likely they would get away with it if Lance was a better dancer, but since he's not I'm not sure the risk is much worth it.
Binky29
When Tom said "I liked it better when Mel B did it", I thought he was referring to the fact that Maks had just smacked him on the butt. (Although, it was ironic, given the fact that when they started out with *those* moves, in *those* costumes, I thought..."OH COOL! I loved this dance when Mel and Maks did it two seasons ago!!")

Wow Lacey, you're sooooo edgy and awesome. And I'm not sure who to be angry at with that song choice. I mean, how lame was that attempt at humor? "get it? it's edgy because she's a girl and maybe it's saying that SHE kissed a girl, but it's also hee-larious because he's gay and maybe HE kissed a girl and isn't that just sooooo out there?"

And OH MY GOD, I'm going to defend Cloris a little bit. First, as a die-hard figure skating fan, I have a soft spot in my heart for that music (Bolero). Secondly, I thought that Paso was the best thing she's done, and excuse me Carrie Ann, but the "mood" of the Paso is serious, intense. It's no place for her wacky senile salty grandma routine. Now having said that much, dear GOD please send her home this week! My eyes will burst into flame if I should have to see her do the rhumba (or other sexy dance) at some point.

Everybody pretty much sucked this week, and total word to the poster that said the missing practice day really told on everyone! I do love me some Warren & Kym, though! The theme was cool, I loved how it was all dark and serious, and I'm more and more impressed by Warren's ability to not just keep up with Kym, but to actually look like a decent dancer out there.

Kim K. needs to go next after Cloris. Oh my God she was awful tonight. I couldn't have agreed more with Bruno...she looked cold & dead out there. I said (during their dance) "Mark's into it, but she looks like she'd rather be getting a manicure".
Tasya
I checked Kym and Julianne in the background when Brooke spoke and did not see anything. Maybe I missed it because I just saw Kim and a bored Lacey pretty much. Again YMMV.


At one point while Brooke is talking, Kym and Julianne look at each other and sort of smirk/laugh and then Julianne actually drops her head down into her lap. Again maybe i'm projecting but having sat through many a boring/pompous person talk and having had the exact same reactions with friends, that's what it seemed like to me but it could have been just me.
dees diner
I don't get the Warren love train. I didn't think the Paso was good at all (but love Kym). I like him, he's lovable, but not his dancing. And that boy Cody just gives me the willies.
tyladurden
Did anyone else catch Tom B muttering "I liked it better when Mel B did it" as Misty and Mack walked off the dance floor?


I did! In retrospect I'm sure he was referring to the butt pinch, but I gotta say my mind went to Mel and Maks' paso because hello, deja vu. Twice. Both Misty/Maks and Kym/Warren seemed to be ripping off the Free Your Mind choreo/concept/costumes. And coming up way short by comparison.

And then when Len said something to the effect of "I know your game" to Lance, I thought he said "I know you're gay." I guess I was still kinda in shock that they went there with Lance and "I Kissed a Girl." Lance is a good sport, and I need to get my hearing checked.

No stand out performances tonight. Yawn.
camcat
Think this the worst group of dancers the show has had. And the "blah-est" personalities. Giving Warren all my votes--he's having fun and can actually do some difficult steps.
sugahgirl
Tonight just bugged.

Misty scares me. Her eyes are completely dead and she looks totally awkward whether in hold or not.

Lance and Lacey annoy the ever living hell out of me. I thought the dance itself was fine, but the package screwed them. I kept thinking about the weeks when Mario and Joey Lawrence did multiple lifts even after being warned. Mario straight up said "I know what the judges want, but screw it, I'm trying to do what the people like." As I recall, he got gobsmacked in the scores for it, and I think that's what Len did with Lacey and Lance. Having said that I think it was particularly unfair because there's no way that whoever was next (was it Kim?) was as good, yet Len also gave out a 6.

I loved Warren and Kym's paso. He really is light on his feet and the choreo looked pretty darn tough. I am glad Kym has a decent partner this year.

Kim needs to go. Just needs to go. Now. She's not cute, she's not funny and she looks like she'd rather be going for a colonoscopy than dancing.
applecruncher
Check out the look on Warren's face as he stands and waits for judge feedback - anxious, hopeful. It's sweet. He's so genuinely happy when they compliment him.

Also Susan, but in a different way. I don't think it's ego - she seems really thrilled to be there and she's working very hard. Still, she needs to give it more gusto.
bluvelvet
Both Misty/Maks and Kym/Warren seemed to be ripping off the Free Your Mind choreo/concept/costumes. And coming up way short by comparison.


I got the Free Your Mind deja vu with Misty/Maks with Warren/Kym the first thing I thought of was The Matrix, didn't make a connetction to Free Your Mind at all.

Actually with the exception of "I kissed a girl" I think most of the paso music was appropriate. I also realize that I much prefer the instrumentals for Paso's.
WaltzinSpringTm
Lance and Lacey are just pushing this "Len hates us" thing too hard, it sounds planned out before the season even begin. Please wait until the season is more than a week old for this nonsense. They have cast themselves in the underdog rebel role and refuse to even wait for it to play out before claiming that turf. Lance is going to be better off working on his actual dancing.
GoldenWoman
Tonight was a major step back. I was really bored by the time we got to Kim and Susan. Warren helped me get back into the show though. My favorites tonight were Warren, Toni and Brooke. They look to be really grasping the idea and technique of dance. Maurice, Misty and Cody were middle of the pack for me tonight. I want Kim gone NOW. She is so cold and I am so sick and tired of her poor me routine. I thought Cloris was better than she was. Carrie Ann is really bugging me this season. Cloris channeled the correct feeling for her dance and then Carrie ann scolds her for it? Bruno looks to be the competent judge for the season. Maks needs to bring the choreography down a notch. He really could end up hurting her chances to do well. Rocco pretty much stayed the same which isn't good. The guys(minus Warren) are going to drop like flys this season. They need to never have 13 celebrities again. It takes up too much time and you end up forgetting dances or contestants even if they are good. Alec and Toni doing karaoke was priceless and I really liked the practice vids tonight. Here's hoping Kim goes bye bye tomorrow.
O2Sean
The show must never repeat this format again. That lost day of rehearsal showed in the dances today. In doing so, it showed the contenders and pretenders. The contenders are Brooke, Toni, Misty and Warren, IMO.


I think they made a big mistake having the paso doble in a week where the dancers were exhausted. The rumba and the paso both rely on heavy partner connection and chemistry, which is hard to create this early on, even when they weren't exhausted.

Misty seemed to go through the motions, and Brooke seemed to be at a low ebb. I like Brooke, but there's a strange atmosphere around the way the judges comment on her (any criticism is very reluctantly made) and Derek seemed to be miffed by what mild criticism there was.

Toni was also very reserved, but I thought her rumba was the most sensual and adult of any of the rumbas tonight, and was one of the most maturely sexy rumbas I can recall from any season. Alec is the epitome of quiet sex appeal and I can't imagine a better partner for her. They went first and Carrie Ann focused more on lifts than praise, so I'm concerned for them. Speaking of that, can Carrie Ann ever learn to speak properly? She almost seemed to be saying she was going to enjoy docking them for lifts.

I liked Warren and Kym and after her excellent paso with Joey Fatone I'm glad she *finally* had another chance to show what she can do. Warren didn't quite have the force for a paso but he did have the presence, which Kym enhanced with costumes and lighting. Can we please stop having the judges tell him that he's not a bad mover for a fat guy?

Of the high-ish scorers I think Lance and Cody are both dubious talents.


I spent a lot of time waiting for Cody to do some type of dancing, instead of standing around in some cross between an Elvis jumpsuit and a billowy poet's beach gear.

Lance has more dance ability but he's smarmy and plays too much for the camera. This "rivalry" they have with Len is a desperate bid for attention and I think that's one of the reasons why Carrie Ann and Bruno sided with Len tonight, whereas in the past they have sometimes sided more with the celebrity and pro he hates.

They must be beyond sick of Kim, because I was surprised that Bruno of all people went after her. She was still overscored.

I just didn't get any real dancing from most of them tonight, aside from Toni and Warren.

I know Kim's probably gone, but I won't shed any tears if Rocco goes instead.
WholahayBrown
I just tuned in for the first time this season, and I'm not sure I will again. None of the dancers are very good and, with the exception of Warren, I don't care if any of them get better.
I can maybe find some redeeming qualities in Toni, Susan, Brooke and Maurice, but again, aside from Warren, I don't really like anyone. Cloris annoys me, Kim pisses me off, and Misty freaks me the hell out. Not a great cast.
harvestbasket
there's a strange atmosphere around the way the judges comment on her (any criticism is very reluctantly made) and Derek seemed to be miffed by what mild criticism there was.
YMMV because Derek did not look miffed at all and I do not think they are reluctant at all. I thought that whole exchange was odd because I saw nothing there and Len's shown he likes the Houghs. That said, I will say not just Brooke with all the celebs this season, there is a strange atmosphere around the judging. I feel like the comments either go on too long or something this season.

If anything, you can sense the judges' frustration with Kim. I also still think she was overscored and I felt they set aside a lot of time for Cloris. I felt her Samantha interview backstage dragged.

I do think the overall cast has good dancers. I would say the female celebs (aside from Cloris and Kim) are better than last season. But I feel like the first two week format has sucked it out a bit so I am hoping for improvement next week.
drmka9
I'm hoping this season picks up at some point because it's been pretty bad so far. The couples did really need that extra day to work. As much as I dislike Carrie Ann, she had the line of the night when she told Kim K. to "watch herself on tape". Carrie Ann, she already got that down a few years ago.
Axium
To whomever asked about the days of rehearsal: Usually the results day is on a Tuesday but last week it was on Wednesday. Therefore, the dancers had one less day in which to learn the new dances.

ETA: It was really a stupid decision to have the dancers dance the paso and the rumba tonight. Both of those dances need more time to practice and more time to develop trust and chemistry with a partner.
ams70
Am I the only one who thinks this season and cast suck BIG TIME? In every other season there were always at least 2 "stars" that I cared about and gave all my votes to.
We have been spoiled the last few seasons as there have been stars who had actual dancing talent and did well right out of the gate. This time they are all just truly bad.
This season the show is just so....damn....boring. A major snooze fest. I just don't feel invested in anyone. I know it is only the 2nd week but at this point I am usually rooting for people- not so much now. I will keep watching out of habit. Here's hoping that come March a better group of stars are chosen especially some that have always been rumored to be on - Cybill Shepherd, Dean Cain, et al)
Ok.. I'm done ranting
Thadeeeyus
Misty was reminding me of Monica Seles tonight. She looked so very awkward. But she's always looked awkward to me and I haven't seen a reflection of that in her scores. Is her (or Maks') fanbase so large that they'll stay in no matter what, so the scores are being inflated? I don't get it. I thought Julianne was beautiful in her dance but Cody didn't do much but stand around. I don't remember - did they comment on the lack of hip action in the rumbas? Because I didn't see much of it, and it was such a big deal last season. I don't think L/L are being rebellious on their own. I think there's been some encouragement. Whatever the reason, It's rude to deliberately disregard the traditional dance and I agree with Len. But Jeez, I thouight he was going to have a stroke.
sussudio
To whomever asked about the days of rehearsal: Usually the results day is on a Tuesday but last week it was on Wednesday. Therefore, the dancers had one less day in which to learn the new dances.
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Ah, thanks for clarifying. I forgot about the Wednesday results show. I still like season 4's beginning in which the couple dance a ballroom for one week and a latin for the other week. Then the results show came after the 2nd week.

This is too overwhelming for the stars and it's just the beginning! I just hope no one gets burned out afterwards. I'm not a big fan of Susan Lucci, but I have to give her lots of credit for flying coast-to-coast to do this show. And for Misty who just won her competition. That's a lot of work for these stars.
ShadowDenizen
Think this the worst group of dancers the show has had. And the "blah-est" personalities.


Sadly, I think I agree.

Carrie Ann. Do not poke the crazy and encourage Cloris to bring her insanity on to the dance floor! That said, I felt sorry for her (Cloris) this week. Seemed like she was trying hard, and she was almost pleading with the judges to go easy on her.


Word. I love Cloris, but watching her is almost painful to me, and I hope America lets her go quickly with her head held high. (Though I hope I'm in as good-shape when I'm her age!!)

I guess I was still kinda in shock that they went there with Lance and "I Kissed a Girl." Lance is a good sport, and I need to get my hearing checked.


Yeah, I think that was a poor choice from TPTB, and I'm glad Lance and Lacey put their own spin on it.

This "rivalry" they have with Len is a desperate bid for attention


I like Lance, and give him Kudos for coming out on the public forum; and besides that, he's totally on my "to do" list. Unfortunately, he's been somewhat underwhelming in his dancing this season, and the "rivalry" is a bit silly, especially this early in the season.

I spent a lot of time waiting for Cody to do some type of dancing, instead of standing around in some cross between an Elvis jumpsuit and a billowy poet's beach gear.


I actually thought he was better than some of the other, older stars, actually. (I'm looking at you, Kim K.!) And more than that, he's really won me over with his self-deprecating humor and sense of enjoyment. TPTB must like him,too, giving him the coveted final spot.
sussudio
I thought Julianne was beautiful in her dance but Cody didn't do much but stand around. I don't remember - did they comment on the lack of hip action in the rumbas? Because I didn't see much of it, and it was such a big deal last season.


I noticed that Julianne once again danced around Cody. She was gorgeous tonight and she knows how to make people look at her dancing instead of her partner. I've noticed Julianne's similar rhumba choreography from her dance(s) with Apolo, but Cody is no Apolo.

I completely noticed the lack of hip movement from all the rhumbas tonight. It was a big deal last season so I was surprised that the judges didn't look at that at all.
Fabrisse
Next week may be my last week. This was dull.
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