DonVito
Sep 27, 2008 @ 8:44 pm
Has anyone watched the new show with Martha Stewart's daughter and her friend. Basically they sit around and watch old Martha Stewart episodes and just rip on them. It is the funniest thing I have ever seen, they do not hold back at all.
clubsauce
Sep 27, 2008 @ 9:03 pm
I've seen it! I love how they showed Martha preparing an elaborate Barbie birthday party and Alexis said that on her birthday, Martha wouldn't remember until the last minute and give her a cupcake with a pillar candle!
addicted_aardvark
Sep 28, 2008 @ 11:14 am
I saw the first 3 shows that aired, but haven't been back since.
I did find the ragging on Martha segments funny, but not quite so MST3K as I anticipated from early press. And the closing segment, where they get to air risque comments and act like high school girls a bit tiring. Maybe if they stuck in another clip snark session instead it would be funnier.
Some of the clips are really hysterical even without commentary just because they're so dated. And Martha is so over-the-top OCD about details!
It was interesting on Martha's own show last week when someone asked her what she thought of "Whatever Martha!". She reiterated how it was her own idea, but did admit that she thought the edited version was funny but the pre-edit version was a bit too much (I was guessing hurtful rather than funny).
oregano
Sep 28, 2008 @ 1:04 pm
I agree, the Martha segments themselves are pretty hilarious. I'm not wild about the Alexis/friend dynamic - they are very screechy together.
bj1968
Sep 28, 2008 @ 5:09 pm
I was just coming to see if this topic existed!
I think that the show is funny, although I felt a little bad because they ragged on Martha so hard...that is until I read the end credits and saw that Martha produced the show. I wonder how this show affects the Martha/Alexis relationship because even though the show is Martha's idea some of the comments have to hurt, I don't care how icy Martha appears.
maryhartman
Sep 28, 2008 @ 9:50 pm
There's a profile of Alexis Stewart in New York Magazine.
http://nymag.com/news/media/50517/
addicted_aardvark
Sep 29, 2008 @ 10:32 am
I wonder how this show affects the Martha/Alexis relationship because even though the show is Martha's idea some of the comments have to hurt, I don't care how icy Martha appears.
I can't remember which episode of her own show it was last week, but ...
It was interesting on Martha's own show last week when someone asked her what she thought of "Whatever Martha!". She reiterated how it was her own idea, but did admit that she thought the edited version was funny but the pre-edit version was a bit too much (I was guessing hurtful rather than funny).
And I did get the impression from her answer that the un-edited comments were more unpleasant than she expected when she had the idea originally. Wouldn't be surprised if the Martha-Alexis relationship has gotten more brittle.
bj1968
Sep 29, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
I have read that Alexis was not fond of Martha's mother either and I know Martha adored her. That family has a strange dynamic going. Martha and Alexis seemed so close, which is one of Martha's redeeming qualities in my eyes. Is Alexis that secure in being the only child that she feels that it is okay to totally devour the hand that feeds her?
bergh
Sep 29, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
Apparently this show was
Martha Stewart's idea and Fine Living picked her daughter to co-host.
More is at stake with “Whatever, Martha!” than a bruised ego. Martha Stewart, above all a shrewd judge of her audience, hopes that allowing herself to be roasted will woo a new generation of younger fans: people interested in household advice but who might find her meticulousness comical.
I actually watched the whittling twig segment mentioned in the article on youtube (hosted by Martha Stewart's channel) and it's hilarious.
gingerblue
Oct 9, 2008 @ 5:55 pm
Anyone still watching?
And does anyone remember when Alexis was on Oprah talking about her attempts to get pregnant? Has she given that up or is she still spending all that money trying to conceive?
I don't mind her, or Jennifer. I do think Alexis can be a *tad* cruel, though. But God knows what she went through when she was a kid. I remember seeing shots of her apartment in a issue of MSL years and years ago, and being shocked at how absolutely sterile it was. I wondered back then if she was rebelling in her own quiet way...
Phenobarbara
Oct 9, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
I'm still watching. I love this show. The interactions between Alexis and Jennifer are as entertaining as their comments about Martha.
Aisley
Oct 9, 2008 @ 10:22 pm
I haven't seen this show yet, but I have seen the two of them on Martha's show. Knowing that Martha thought this was a great idea and is supporting them speaks highly of her. Anyone that can poke fun at themselves is ok in my book. Honestly I didn't think Martha would do this, because by gosh she wants everyone to think she's perfect, so I can't imagine her supporting this, but obviously she is.
I really like Jennifer, she's very warm and funny. Alexis comes off as a bit of a snob, just like dear old Mom. Obviously it's in the genes.
gingerblue
Oct 9, 2008 @ 11:36 pm
I wonder if Martha is supporting this to either ease some tension with Alexis (the two have had a rocky past) or to start "pushing" Alexis on a wider audience, knowing that she will eventually take over the empire? If you read that article linked a few posts up, it indicates that Alexis is very willing to step into Martha's shoes when the time comes.
I'd love to listen in on some of Martha and Alexis' conversations. Do you think they ever break their formality with one another?
Actinolite
Oct 10, 2008 @ 12:00 pm
The segment on folding ribbons into roses may have been one of the funniest (and most relatable) things I've seen on tv in a long time! Poor Jennifer. That's exactly how I feel trying to do that stuff.
splish splash
Oct 10, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
I think this show is hysterical. I am in awe of Alexis' balls, though. I grew up with a battle axe of a mother but there is no way on earth I'd have the nerve to rip on her in any recorded format.
bj1968
Oct 10, 2008 @ 9:12 pm
I think that the reason that Alexis has the security to rip on Martha so viciously(sp?) is because she has the safety net of being Martha's only child. I bet she wouldn't be so cruel if she had other siblings that would inherit Martha's money. I wonder if Alexis has made up with her father because she never talks about him and she knows how hard it is to live with Martha so she should cut him a little slack if she isn't talking to him.
Mlle Poilane
Oct 10, 2008 @ 10:45 pm
After two episodes, I had to hang this show out to dry. I liked some of the old clips of Martha and thought they were funny, but I can't laugh at Alexis. To me, she is the personification of the vengeful daughter. She is still stomping her foot and showing the world she can be any way she wants to be, which might have been endearing as a child, but she's a middle-aged woman now. She needs to get her act together. Living off of Martha seems to be the only way she can earn a paycheck. She has had such a long string of failures in the business world (financed by Martha) that I wonder whether Martha was willing to be laughed at, just so Alexis could succeed at something. For someone who has worked as hard as Martha has, it must be tough to watch your daughter screw up again and again -- and then blame the rest of the world for her failures.
addicted_aardvark
Oct 11, 2008 @ 9:42 am
After watching the first 3 episodes (perhaps my problem was overdose), I realized that while I have enjoyed the Jennifer/Alexis dynamic when they've been on Martha, a whole half hour of them is too much for me. Plus, I didn't really like the Alexis person that comes out, particularly in their last little risque topic segment.
I did really enjoy, though, seeing the old clips of Martha being Martha. And, as Actinolite commented, the way they both pointed out how impossible most things were for "real life" people.
bj1968
Oct 11, 2008 @ 2:19 pm
I didn't really like the Alexis person that comes out, particularly in their last little risque topic segment.
You mean the part that Alexis basically admitted to be a whore, lol!?!
TheLady2
Oct 12, 2008 @ 5:54 pm
I wonder if Alexis has made up with her father because she never talks about him
According to her father, she hasn't spoken to him in 20 years.
Aisley
Oct 13, 2008 @ 10:16 am
Her father probably doesn't have any money to give her.... so I'm sure she thinks it would be a waste of time to speak to him.
bj1968
Oct 13, 2008 @ 9:25 pm
I know that Alexis blames him for the divorce since he did leave Martha for HER assistant, but enough yime has passed that Alexis should be having some sort of relationship with her father. I have read that Andrew(Andy) Sttewart is a decent guy despite the way he left, but I can't imagine that being Mr. Martha Stewart was easy. I'm not excusing him, but enough time has passed so that Alexis should have forgiven him a little, unless there is more to the story than we are privy to, and I'm talking out of my ass.
Mookster
Oct 17, 2008 @ 11:10 am
Hmm, I was curious how this show would go over. I read a recent story on her and the show (
NYmag story) and wondered why anyone would watch. She seems like a hateful, bitter, vengeful pill. But then I have personal knowledge that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Martha and her daughter deserve each other.
Lulus Pie Shop
Oct 17, 2008 @ 11:32 am
It does seem like something that would do better in small chunks, doesn't it? I'm surprised they made a full show out of it...it seems better for a few web-exclusives.
bj1968
Oct 17, 2008 @ 2:18 pm
When I first saw the show a few weeks ago, I thoughh that it was freaking hilarious, but when I watch it now I get a little uncomfortable because Alexis is so mean to her mother. I know that Martha is not a shrinking violet, but still...You are her daughter, have a little mercy.
Aisley
Oct 17, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
We all know that Alexis would be nowhere without her mother. She's one of those children that were born with a silver spoon in their mouth and never really had to do anything. I'm not saying that she hasn't done anything, I'm just saying that she never had to. But then again, Martha was probably a rather harsh mother, and she may have put restrictions on the money she'd give Alexis. So...now I wonder has Martha given Alexis money freely since the day she was born, or did she push Alexis to make her own way. Regardless though, I do know that having Martha has a mother helped Alexis financially.
biakbiak
Oct 17, 2008 @ 4:19 pm
I think the main reason I don't like Alexis is she is so disdainful of everything. I mean Martha is a snob and such but it seems to come from a place of loving those things and finding them to be better for a variety of reasons, not just disdain.
Lulus Pie Shop
Oct 17, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
Alexis told a story on the Martha Apprentice a couple of years ago about how, as a child, she wanted to surprise her mother with a cake, and when she showed her mother, Martha got mad at her for messing up the kitchen. Something tells me that Alexis is full of stories about not being good enough.
So maybe the sarcasm with a touch of viciousness is payback.
bj1968
Oct 17, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
I can't imagine it being easy being Martha's daughter, but Alexis has reaped the benefits of having a wealthy parent. When Alexis was trying to get pregnant via in vitro, I remember that she did an interview with People magazine and she said that Martha had made it possible financially for her to take the treatments and to raise a child without having to worry about about money. And now Martha is paying Alexis to diss her. Alexis' tone is just so harsh that it is a turnoff.
Alexis has had her share of giving Martha payback like having an un-Martha wedding. You know that it just killed Martha not to be able to plan an host an extravaganza when her only daughter got married. I heard that Alexis and Martha even dated the same man but I am not sure that it is true. Maybe someone else can clarify?
King Cat Sam
Oct 17, 2008 @ 5:05 pm
Martha does like or prefer younger men. I have heard her mention that several times.
bj1968
Oct 17, 2008 @ 5:13 pm
Martha is the ultimate cougar, HA! She would fit into a lot of guys 'harsh mommy' fantasy.
Aisley
Oct 17, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
When you watch Martha's show, you can definitely tell she likes when men flirt with her, especially handsome men. She also loves men that are funny, but in a cute way, not a horribly crude way. Men like Joe Black really have a way about them that makes Martha lighten up. I think Martha could be a lot of fun when she wants to be. I think she's just such a perfectionist that she puts so much pressure on herself that she can't even relax. I don't think it's something she can turn off either, it's just who she is. It's served her well though. I just wish she wasn't such a snob. I LOVE her ideas and her decorating style. She has a very traditional style that is just timeless.
phoebepoodle
Oct 17, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
I was just coming to see if this topic existed!
I think this is one of the funniest shows I've seen in a long time. Yes, Alexis comes off as a spoiled, snobbish ingrate. And her friend Jennifer is a loveable mensch. And Alexis seems to relish getting in her digs at Mommy - what with the therapy and sex jokes. But this show is snarky fun - and you can't have enough of that! The segment where they diss the organized linen closet was priceless. Sh*t. I'm lucky if I can get the door shut on mine. Even dear Mr. Poodle loves it, and he
hates home-organization-improvement shows. If anything - I'd like to see them get even snarkier! You go, girls!
Mlle Poilane
Oct 20, 2008 @ 2:43 am
I think it's both odd and interesting how people can watch the same show and have entirely different opinions of it. With zll due respect to those who live this show, I think "Whatever" is just about the dumbest show on the air. I find nothing funny in Zlexis, zbsolutely nothing. I only saw this show twice, but that's all I could tolerate. Some of the Martha clips are rszther funny, but Alexis isn't. Besides, and this has nothing to do with the show's content, that Alexis is still trying to make a buck off her mother is disgusting to me. She's 42 years old! It could be, though, that some people's personal lives do effect their on screen personas. Sorry, but this show is the biggest waste of time on air these days.
Mean Mommy
Oct 21, 2008 @ 9:48 pm
I started subscribing to MSLiving when I was in college and spent my oldest daughter's first Christmas making ornaments out of circles cut from Christmas cards that were then folded so there were triangles in the centers so you could glue the edges together and make these cool wavy orbs. Anyway....I literally stayed up all night and made about a dozen of them. I still have a few left, and they always find a place somewhere in my Christmas decor. So, yeah, I love me some Martha. I even watched that god-awful Bethenny bitch on MSApprentice to get my Martha fix. That being said, I ADORE this show! I don't care that there isn't enough therapy in the world to fix Alexis. I like her broken and twisted. I honestly thought that Jennifer and she must be friends from way back--they seem to have such an easy and accepting relationship with one another. YMMV--and apparently, many do, but I've found my favorite new show.
Actinolite
Oct 23, 2008 @ 8:47 am
I finally saw the s'mores episode. Wow. Carefully hand-crafting sticks to roast marshmallows? It was like a parody of something Martha Stewart would do, but...she actually did it. It's almost too easy to mock!
mushypeas
Oct 25, 2008 @ 7:16 am
Wow. Carefully hand-crafting sticks to roast marshmallows? It was like a parody of something Martha Stewart would do, but...she actually did it.
I loved it! Only Martha Stewart could complicate the making of S'mores. Well, I suppose Alton Brown would, too, but he wouldn't wrap it all up in tastefully cute grosgrain ribbon.
Put me on the Martha Stewart love train. She's inspired many, while at the same time provided those of us with a sense of humor (long before her daughter could) lots of grins and eyerolls over her uptight, obsessive attention to detail. And clearly she knows this based on this show and has no trouble with us laughing at her. But I do question her judgment in doing this, because it seems like it could easily go "too far".
I think the main reason I don't like Alexis is she is so disdainful of everything. I mean Martha is a snob and such but it seems to come from a place of loving those things and finding them to be better for a variety of reasons, not just disdain.
I totally agree. I have mixed emotions about the show. I think Martha lends herself perfectly to parody and snarky critique, but it kind of reeks coming from Alexis. Especially when you think about the kind of admiration and respect Martha always paid (at least publicly) to her own mom. Alexis comes off as being so bitter and bored with everything that she makes it hard for me to laugh. I'm sure she does have good stories, but I think if they were tinged with a bit more respect and
love that she could tell them in a way that had at least
some charm. As it is, she comes off as being pretty low class and in need of (more) good therapy.
And Alexis is trying way too hard to be Sandra Bernhard...
bj1968
Oct 25, 2008 @ 10:51 am
I have always been fascinated with Martha but I was never part of her cult. I watched Martha Stewart Living religiously, but I could filter out when Martha had lost her mind and when she had a truly great idea. I admired her and still do. Even when she went to jail, I still didn't get out the knives for her. That being said, I'm glad that I wasn't her daughter because she would have driven me batshit crazy! I think that I have even more respect for her because she went to jail, did her time, and never has whined about it. Unlike Paris Hilton who cried all the way to jail for her mommy and daddy, Martha took her medicine and got on with her life. I figure that Martha is a bitch on wheels but I don't have to live with or work for her.
At first, I thought that the show was clever, but I think that Alexis is too mean. If she were a more likable person perhaps the show would be more entertaining for me. I still like the premise of the show but I think that Alexis should be replaced with someone else.
bgtymr
Oct 26, 2008 @ 1:23 pm
I 1st saw Alexis on Oprah and she was so nonchalant about spending $28k/month on fertility drugs, that it was a little off putting, yet I drawn in. Then, I heard the radio show "Whatever w/ Alexis and Jennifer" and I was hooked. Yeah she is vile and above everything, but I find her hilarious. She seems like one of those people who won't tell you what you want to hear, and is just straight up about everything, no matter how cold she may appear.
I like the "whatever Martha episodes" totally bring out the Mommie Dearest past: "Martha made me put cloves in oranges until my fingers bled" (Ha ha)
VanillaBear85
Oct 27, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
I have only seen clips on The Dish, but I love it! I have never been a Martha Stewart fan and the clips tickled me. I do not know if I get the channel that this show is on though.
colt13
Oct 28, 2008 @ 9:13 am
I love this show. Don't have a creative bone in my body but have always liked Martha. So having 2 people snark and fail at tasks Martha can do with one hand tied behind her back is a good thing.
Ovaltine
Oct 31, 2008 @ 11:06 pm
My people!
I've been watching this show like crazy and after it's over my friend and I always call each other and laugh about it. Martha really is a genius for coming up with this idea and wanting her daughter to cohost the show. The woman's not stupid -she knows that there are just as many people who make fun of her as there are people who practically worship her. From what I've been able to tell from Alexis' anecdotes, like the one about Martha always pushing people in pools, Martha's sense of humor is quite different from what is shown on tv. If she didn't like the show it wouldn't exist. I love Alexis. Sure, she's a bit snobby, but I think it shows that she's probably more similar to her mother than she probably realizes. I adore her haircut like nobody's business, too.
Oh my gosh, how hilarious was Peanut Butter the face painter? I'm with Jennifer -I wouldn't let that guy paint my kids' faces. Who's going to trust a guy with horns coming out of his ears?
shadowsmom
Nov 24, 2008 @ 2:45 pm
At first, I thought that the show was clever, but I think that Alexis is too mean. If she were a more likable person perhaps the show would be more entertaining for me. I still like the premise of the show but I think that Alexis should be replaced with someone else.
I love Alexis, but then again, I have a
perfect mother, too! I understand Alexis. It's all the baggage she's carrying around that make her bitchy!
goddessofcrap
Nov 25, 2008 @ 1:02 pm
Ovaltine, , you took the words out of my mouth. Whenever I see this show I miss my BFF from college, who lives in a different state. We could spend all our time together watching TV and making snarky comments and feel more bonded than ever.
I found these comments from upthread a little harsh:
Her father probably doesn't have any money to give her.... so I'm sure she thinks it would be a waste of time to speak to him.
I know that Alexis blames him for the divorce since he did leave Martha for HER assistant, but enough yime has passed that Alexis should be having some sort of relationship with her father. I have read that Andrew(Andy) Sttewart is a decent guy despite the way he left, but I can't imagine that being Mr. Martha Stewart was easy. I'm not excusing him, but enough time has passed so that Alexis should have forgiven him a little, unless there is more to the story than we are privy to, and I'm talking out of my ass.
I agree with that last sentence though. We don't know what happened there, and there is no knowing how hurt someone can be by someone else's actions, or how prone to grudges they are (Although I will admit, sometimes I feel ready to cut someone out of my life for making a suggestion about my parenting skills...so maybe I'm not the best person to talk). :)
bj1968
Nov 25, 2008 @ 11:24 pm
I agree with that last sentence though. We don't know what happened there, and there is no knowing how hurt someone can be by someone else's actions, or how prone to grudges they are (Although I will admit, sometimes I feel ready to cut someone out of my life for making a suggestion about my parenting skills...so maybe I'm not the best person to talk). :)
Unless Andrew is a child molester/rapist, Alexis should give her father a chance to make amends. Alexis
knowswhat its like to live with Martha, so maybe she should cut her father some slack because if something happens to him before she can at least be civil to him, she may live to regret not having a relationship with him. And I am the
queen of grudges, but sometimes I do manage to get over them:)
RoRo
Nov 28, 2008 @ 8:06 pm
Did anyone see the episode where Martha made the rice krispies treats (or whatever cereal she used)? Martha was packing and packing the cereal into the pan...and Alexis was all, WTF! That's not how you make rice krispies treats! I thought it was so funny. I guess Martha never made them for Alexis as a kid.
jo_tornblade
Nov 29, 2008 @ 1:03 am
Those rice Krispie treats had the density of bricks by the time she was done with them!
I just watched almost all of the available episodes (thanks to a free preview of the fine living network by Dish) and I found them to be very funny! I don't think Alexis was all that harsh, considering her "job" here is to make fun of the clips. (She's been harsher on her radio show. They have one of those relationships where Alexis will criticize Martha, but if anyone else does - watch out!)
I enjoy the dynamic that Alexis and Jennifer have. I was cracking up when Jennifer was playing with the ribbons, but related more to Alexis' reaction.
All in all, I think this is a very good show.
(As to Alexis' relationship with her father, if she still won't talk to him, she probably has a very good reason for it, so I'm not going to judge. We can't choose our families, and sometimes it's healthier to cut someone off.)
weizard
Dec 3, 2008 @ 11:47 am
The show is very good, I love the concept. But I hate the endings where these two decide to bless us with their wonderful opinions on the topic du jour. First of all, they are just flat out wrong half the time. Second, I wouldn't take advice from these two uptight prissy's anyway.
Is it just me, or does Alexsis look like she's on the edge of buying a glock and going to visit everyone she ever met during her childhood?
And Jennifer, great, you have a husband, no need to keep reminding us every.single.episode. You managed to fool some idiot into marrying you, it doesn't mean that anyone will ever be jealous of you.
shadowsmom
Dec 3, 2008 @ 12:38 pm
Weizard, are you referring to the discussion they had about sleeping with someone on the first date? I find their comments amusing but hardly anything I'd follow. But then again, I don't travel in their circle...
beezer
Dec 4, 2008 @ 3:07 pm
I don't know how, but I missed the rice crispy treat episode. Though, I remember on Martha's old show, she once made what she said was Alexis' recipe for treats, which involved a whole slew of other cereals and was quite cute and colourful. Was Alexis busting on her own recipe or was Martha messing it up? Or was it a different recipe entirely? And what episode was that in? I thought I'd seen them all.