Wyldemusick
Aug 22, 2008 @ 5:11 am
Stargate: Universe gets the go-ahead.Basically: someone figures out what the ninth chevron is all about, and the usual motley assortment end up on an Ancient/Alteran starship. According to information posted in various places,
Destiny is a follow-up craft sent out by the Ancients, who had previously launched a ship to seed stargates. Exactly what the premise is now, beyond the ship, is unknown, given that details often change wildly before production actually begins.
The current plan is for a two-hour pilot movie sometime in the spring (presumably after the
Atlantis movie), with a series starting in the summer.
buttersister
Aug 22, 2008 @ 9:01 am
So they're cut off from Earth (sound familiar?) but appearances by former cast members from SG-1 and Atlantis are very possible. Bite me, Skiffy.
HauntedBathroom
Aug 22, 2008 @ 9:37 am
Oh hooray. After SG1 limped on for three years too long, and Atlantis never really got started, Sci Fi are foisting another spin off on the world. I'd hope this one will benefit from having the producers absolute attention, but this:
So they're cut off from Earth (sound familiar?) but appearances by former cast members from SG-1 and Atlantis are very possible.
does not bode well. After they've finished biting
buttersister, it's my turn.
Bruinsfan
Aug 22, 2008 @ 10:00 am
So the cast members from Stargate SG-1 and SGA will be able to get back to Earth or Atlantis after their guest starring episodes—repeatedly—but each time there will be a new contrived reason for the new show's cast to be left behind? Is this thing going to star Robert Beltran and Jeri Ryan?
cutecouple
Aug 22, 2008 @ 10:05 am
Great, a traveling Gilligan's Island.
Cynthia187
Aug 22, 2008 @ 10:11 am
I think I'm gonna pass on this one.
pennyq
Aug 22, 2008 @ 10:13 am
I'm guessing they mean that former cast members will show up in the initial pilot before they're not able to return to Earth or Atlantis. Yes, kind of like the beginning of Voyager when they were at Deep Space Nine. Or maybe they can't get back but can still communicate?
While the striking similarities don't bode well, Voyager's premise wasn't really the problem. It was the execution that had issues.
cutecouple
Aug 22, 2008 @ 10:16 am
Or lack thereof.
ShirleyFeeney
Aug 22, 2008 @ 10:21 am
My brother says that the speculation is that Hailey is going to be in charge of the motley assortment.
But he is my brother and it is his duty to make my life as unpleasant as possible so there is a good chance he is making that up.
cutecouple
Aug 22, 2008 @ 10:29 am
Who's Hailey?
pennyq
Aug 22, 2008 @ 10:35 am
Hailey was that annoying cadet from
Prodigy and
Proving Ground that Sam brought into the Stargate program because she was really really smart.
More information about the showThe series was pitched to SCI FI Channel last fall, just before the writer's strike -- which put a hold on the project. "The pitch was received very well," Wright said. "[But] we pitched an expensive series -- the idea we have is not cheap. I think we've proven ourselves, so ... 'Can we please have enough money to do it right this time?' And, if not, then honestly I don't want to do it. Why do it wrong?"
When the show does begin, Wright believes that it has to both move the franchise forward to attract new viewers, and remain true to the established formula. "It has to feel like Stargate, and it has to feel new. That's the tight rope, that's the balance you have to maintain, and that's the challenge.
"To put it in its simplest terms, if we had ever just done SG-2as a series it would never have worked. It's not the C.S.I. model."
I'm kind of an optimist, but it really does sound like they want to do this right and aren't just putting out a new series for the hell of it.
Aurelian
Aug 22, 2008 @ 10:50 am
I said it in the Stargate Atlantis thread, but I think if they're going to have a "legacy" character the same way SGA had Weir and McKay, I think Lorne would be the perfect choice. Kavan Smith seems to enjoy working on the shows and Lorne has been a great character that fans like that definitely has room to be fleshed out more.
Jenazz
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:05 am
Add me to the Bite Me line.
I have a little more faith in BW than some of the other PTB, but combine that with a complete & utter lack of faith in Skiffy. Who's running them these days, Fox?
Will wait & see...
Senator X
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:06 am
So far it sounds like a traveling Atlantis. I'd love a truly lost from Earth premise because it can explore how our Heroes lose their humanity as they fend from themselves. Of course, judging from Atlantis, they'll figure out the 9th Chevron by the end of season 1 and we'll be seeing Walter and Dr. Lee guest appearances by mid S2.
Zengar
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:08 am
Aurelian that's exactly what I came here to say. I would be very happy if they bring Lorne over.
For me it looks like the writers know that SGA has stagnated, ie not bringing new viewers, but they still believe in the SG brand so they make a new sequel but bring in whoever they think will attract viewers.
I think fleshing out new series of the same franchise every few years might just be the solution Sci-Fi needs. Show like SG1 that lasts 10 years is thing in the past. Are they going to hire the same writers from SGA?
beckyg
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:09 am
So they're cut off from Earth (sound familiar?) but appearances by former cast members from SG-1 and Atlantis are very possible.
Which means we'll get one Very Special Episode with guest star Dr. Rodney McKay, an alternate universe/timeline episode with Dr. Rodney McKay, and in Episode 11, someone will mention Jack O'Neill and "the time a very similar thing happened to SG-1."
*sigh*
I want to be optimistic, but I just ain't feeling it.
Aurelian
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:16 am
One problem with the whole being cut off thing is that if it's simply a starship flying around is that at this point Earth has its battlecruisers which have the ability to travel to other galaxies fairly quickly, so they'll need to deal with how they simply don't fly the Daedalus over and beam people in and out.
Or will that be how they bring in the crossovers?
Senator X
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:20 am
More from
GateworldThe producers are reportedly looking to cast a known actor for one of the leading roles, and fresh faces to round out the cast. This would follow the pattern of SG-1, which earned a lot of marketability from leading man Richard Dean Anderson when it premiered in 1997, rather than the largely unknown cast of Atlantis.
The new series will also be aimed at a slightly younger audience, SCI FI president Dave Howe said.
"This is an opportunity to reinvent this franchise and make it relevant to a new generation," he said. "We really don't want to be more of the same. It's going to build clearly off the existing franchise but with a cast that gives it a younger vibe."
"In Universe, we plan to keep those elements that have made the franchise a success, such as adventure and humor, while breaking new ground in the relationships between mostly young and desperate explorers, thrust together and far from home,"
Younger eh? My first thoughts went to the young version of SG-1 in "200."
TEAL'C: Yo Wonderbread, you dial that gate yet?!
Let the casting speculation begin. For a known actor I was going to say Michael Beach's Col. Ellis would be a choice. But if they're going younger. I'd like to see a minority in the lead, like a Poor Man's Will Smith or Tyrese.
Good news is the article said it'll be more space-based action. Yay! Space ships. Let's face it, the production team excels better at CGI space effects and spaceship set design than they do at dressing up the BC woods and building Shakespeare in the park villages.
comfortablynumb
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:22 am
Now, now, now. Let's not jump to any erroneous conclusions without thinking about this through especially if this becomes true...
the speculation is that Hailey is going to be in charge of the motley assortment.
because Hailey on a ship that never returns to Earth or possibly this galaxy and may never be seen again has potential. Now if we could put Felger on the same ship we could have what could potentially be the highest rated episode of Stargate. You know, when the ship is finally destroyed at the end of the movie in a blaze of glory by the aliens they have ultimately offended. The series would be short but satisfying.
Or I could just be projecting my wishes onto the to writing staff.
Yeah, unless that's the scenario, I don't know if I'll be watching this. It doesn't fill me with enthusiasm right now.
ChelseaMcQ
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:27 am
Wish List:
New writers
Good casting
No special appearances after the Pilot.
Don't be Voyager
Cynthia187
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:29 am
but with a cast that gives it a younger vibe."
Why do I keep thinking of '90210/Gossip Girl' in space?
cutecouple
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:41 am
If the writers/showrunners are the same as SG-1/SG-A, the show's doomed.
Aurelian
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:48 am
Wait....younger? Familiar face?
I'm calling it now: Jewel Staite's Dr. Keller is the lead.
Which....now, I'm not as negative about the character as most people here are, but I definitely agree that Keller isn't quite so much a character right now as simply a chance for the writers to play around and exalt in the fact that they were able to cast JS.
ShirleyFeeney
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:48 am
but with a cast that gives it a younger vibe."
Why do I keep thinking of '90210/Gossip Girl' in space?
Awesome. I would
totally watch that.because Hailey on a ship that never returns to Earth or possibly this galaxy and may never be seen again has potential. Now if we could put Felger on the same ship we could have what could potentially be the highest rated episode of Stargate. You know, when the ship is finally destroyed at the end of the movie in a blaze of glory by the aliens they have ultimately offended. The series would be short but satisfying.
And Pete was a stowaway. Jonas was Chief Engineer. Gary Jones was the galley technician. And Freya was on board just because I want her blown to bits. Excellent. I like the show already.
Senator X
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:51 am
Gateworld has yet another article from Scifi.com
Universe will attempt to appeal to a broader audience, drawing new viewers into the Stargate world. The show will be "a little more character-based, a little less rooted in a sci-fi mythology," co-creator Brad Wright told GateWorld. "It really does come down to characters and stories that are engaging, and that people want to see -- that they feel like they haven't seen before."
Am I reading this right? Less technobabble more character-based. This isn't Star Trek: Voyager, it's Enterprise. That was Bermaga's promise back in 2001.
Wright & Cooper will be the showrunners, not Mallozzi and Mullie.
beckyg
Aug 22, 2008 @ 11:52 am
And Pete was a stowaway. Jonas was Chief Engineer. Gary Jones was the galley technician. And Freya was on board just because I want her blown to bits. Excellent. I like the show already.
SF, that would be the best show ever! I'd even record it, just so I could watch it over and over again.
kzoogal
Aug 22, 2008 @ 12:05 pm
The new series will also be aimed at a slightly younger audience, SCI FI president Dave Howe said.
Younger eh?
Bite me, Skiffy.
What they said. I never thought I'd become a gray panther quite so early in life, but Skiffy is just being so obnoxious in their drive to, um, drive away anyone in their loyal fanbase over the age of 15.
Jenazz
Aug 22, 2008 @ 12:28 pm
TEAL'C: Yo Wonderbread, you dial that gate yet?!
Why do I keep thinking of '90210/Gossip Girl' in space?
And add in
One Tree Hill. Yeah, I'm pretty sure our minds all went to the same place. And I'm pretty sure I'm not their target audience (don't care what my friends insist, 40 is not young!).
"a little more character-based, a little less rooted in a sci-fi mythology,"
More and more like
200 all the time! Er, what exactly makes this sci-fi? Oh that's right, they'll be talking about their feelings on a
spaceship!
All right, I shouldn't be so negative so early. Just would have been nice to have something to look forward to. OTOH, that's more money I can spend on TSCC dvds! Hey, there's a bright side already!
Ranee
Aug 22, 2008 @ 12:40 pm
I'm calling it now: Jewel Staite's Dr. Keller is the lead.
Wouldn't surprise me & I'd welcome it - particularly since it will give me the perfect excuse not to watch the show (can't stand Keller) & possibly also put a canon end to the whole McKeller nonsense.
stillshimpy
Aug 22, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
When I first read this --
According to information posted in various places, Destiny is a follow-up craft sent out by the Ancients, who had previously launched a ship to seed stargates.
I thought it meant that it would be a ship with Alterans on it, so ages ago. Considering that Alterans/Ancients were arrogant jackasses when full grown, I was ready to recoil in horror from the thought of the younger versions that hadn't had a chance to mellow with age. I take that isn't going to be the case, thank goodness.
I'll check it out when it airs, I have a hard time imagining Cooper and Wright creating a younger, hipper set of characters. It is interesting that they want to create a show for people completely unlike themselves.
Jenazz
Aug 22, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
Aurelian, much as we (well, some of us) love her, I don't think Jewel counts as a known/name/bring in an audience actor.
I'll check it out when it airs, I have a hard time imagining Cooper and Wright creating a younger, hipper set of characters. It is interesting that they want to create a show for people completely unlike themselves.
Shimpy, I wondered the same thing.
Senator X
Aug 22, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
Earlier this month I officially hit my mid-30s but I did, do and will watch:
Gossip Girl
The O.C.
Skins
90210
Freaks and Geeks
Veronica Mars
Buffy
That said, I don't need or want all my shows to be skewed young. I never felt the Gates were too old because the mid to late 30s cast members were all fit and action packed. The big problems with the other shows are writers who are a bit too old and create stories rehashed from 90s sci-fi.
When I was a teenager I watched TNG religiously and worshipped at the altar of Picard despite the fact that he was a stoggy British guy in his late 40s with balding gray hair. It's all about characters and I think anyone, no matter their age, will watch an interesting actor flesh out a complex character over someone who's there just to be youthy eye-candy.
totalTVaddict
Aug 22, 2008 @ 1:40 pm
This is what gets me (from
Hollywood Reporter"We've had great success with 'Enterprise' repeats on Monday night, and there's an appetite for space opera as 'Battlestar' goes away," Sci Fi president Dave Howe said. "There's an opportunity to keep the space opera as part of our programming strategy."
Seriously, they're WANTING a new Enterprise?
I was a loyal Trek watcher (hey, I'm one of the few that liked Voyager!) and a big Bakula fan, and even I couldn't handle watching Enterprise for the last season and a half. And as much as I love my Stargate, it's never been BSG, and it shouldn't be.
I'm all for more character driven stories, but...sigh. I can't quite figure out the premise. The whole mystery of the ninth chevron is to...get to one spaceship? That seems like a pretty redundant feature.
I'll just repeat to myself "Don't say ka until I've tried it. Don't say ka until I've tried it." So I can wait for the pilot to say "ka".
katygrl
Aug 22, 2008 @ 2:41 pm
I have to say, I'm on the fence about this one. I am so very disappointed in what I've seen the last couple of seasons on SGA, I was pissed at the lack of character development in SG1.. As for the promises.. Well, let's remember that SGA had the almost same premise when IT premiered and we've been treated to episodes that drove me to wordless horror.
Still, if Kavan came over to star in this show? I'd call my cable company and get back my subscription. I love me some Lorne. I really, truly do.
Cynthia187
Aug 22, 2008 @ 2:43 pm
Dammit! They CANNOT add Lorne. I will be forced to watch some 18 year old something making eyes at Lorne.
Jenazz
Aug 22, 2008 @ 2:49 pm
When I was a teenager I watched TNG religiously and worshipped at the altar of Picard
W'ord to that. And add, I wanted to be Dr Crusher when I grew up.
Senatar X, if
Universe even approaches
VM or
BTVS, I'm in. But the others? My high school life was hard enough, and bitchy teens w/ entitlement complexes or super-angst make my toes itch to kick in real life; I have no desire to allocate tv time to these people.
ETA: Agreed, Lorne deserves a real grown-up woman. Ahem. Just sayin'...
belsum
Aug 22, 2008 @ 3:25 pm
I'm calling it now: Jewel Staite's Dr. Keller is the lead.
She’s the first one I thought of, too. Not as the lead though. She’s not a big enough name. She’d be more like O’Brien moving from TNG to DS9.
venturestar
Aug 22, 2008 @ 3:27 pm
Earth has its battlecruisers which have the ability to travel to other galaxies fairly quickly, so they'll need to deal with how they simply don't fly the Daedalus over and beam people in and out.
Maybe the 9th chevron points to your reality? Since they just sent up the idea of a drive that could jump to alternate realities in Daedalus Variations, maybe that's how they get stranded.
Or the ninth chevron could be a coordinate of time. They could get stranded in the past when Earth wouldn't have ships or know about the Stargate program. Then they could go home but not go home.
Sara Wolfe
Aug 22, 2008 @ 3:36 pm
ETA: Agreed, Lorne deserves a real grown-up woman. Ahem. Just sayin'...
But, he already has Parrish.
Cynthia187
Aug 22, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
They could get stranded in the past when Earth wouldn't have ships or know about the Stargate program.
That works. It would be a rip-off of a Star Trek episode, but it could work.
Jenazz
Aug 22, 2008 @ 3:45 pm
But, he already has Parrish.
I watch on dvd and I'm only through ep #6 of season 4, so my Lorne is free! :-)
I should mention, I'm not hoping they fall flat. I'm just bummed that the show I enjoy (even with its many & sundry flaws) is ending, and that the replacement doesn't sound like something I'll watch. But good luck to everyone involved.
ToasterOnFire
Aug 22, 2008 @ 6:48 pm
Sounds like ass.
I'm convinced that this series will have the same problems that plagued SGA. Poor character development, crappy stories, a rotating door of enemies and cast members, and an embarrassing lack of direction. I guess that's what happens when your faith in TPTB is in the toilet.
chancellorjake
Aug 23, 2008 @ 3:28 am
I'll probably watch the pilot, but I'm not really sure this is going to be worth watching beyond that. I'm, still, kind of annoyed that Atlantis just got the ax (when it was getting good). Now, here comes Skiffy pimping a new Gate-verse show. I guess I'll need more details. Are the show-runners going to be the immature fanboys from SG-1, or the childish idiots from SG-A?
Now, if they bring Major Lorne over I may be forced to watch the show, but only because Kavan Smith is a damn good actor.
zombygirl
Aug 23, 2008 @ 4:03 am
I gotta say I'll probably watch it from first ep to last. I'm a masocist like that.
The number of years it took me to break free of Passions.....
Anyway, I hope Lorne is on it. I like the idea of them being stuck in an alternate reality or out of their own time. That actually makes it sound interesting.
Don't tease us.
BristolBoy
Aug 23, 2008 @ 5:55 am
Very worried about this.
But then I watched all of Enterprise, so I'll not doubt watch all of this (Even if I do end up moaning/complaining all the way through!)
We need to start a petition to get Lorne on board though...
HauntedBathroom
Aug 23, 2008 @ 9:24 am
The producers are reportedly looking to cast a known actor for one of the leading roles, and fresh faces to round out the cast... The new series will also be aimed at a slightly younger audience, SCI FI president Dave Howe said.
"This is an opportunity to reinvent this franchise and make it relevant to a new generation," he said. "We really don't want to be more of the same. It's going to build clearly off the existing franchise but with a cast that gives it a younger vibe."
"In Universe, we plan to keep those elements that have made the franchise a success, such as adventure and humor, while breaking new ground in the relationships between mostly young and desperate explorers, thrust together and far from home,"
So...they want someone who's already a name, but young enough to carry all this "Psst! Ensign Yummybutt wants to know if you'll go for a milkshake with her after school, err bridge shift" guff? Someone who is So! Damn! Photogenic! that when they cry on camera over the dead body of their fit girl/boyfriend they still look radiant, and don't have any snot or red eye. Plus, it would help if it were someone based in Canada, and used to greenscreen special effects demands.
Oh fuck!!!! Kristin Kreuk's leaving Smallville this year, isn't she? Fucking Pink Squirrels in Space!!!! Even Halley would be better then this. Hell, Vanessa Angel would be better then this.
buttersister
Aug 23, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
I can't decide which I like more, a series like that scene from 200 or every character I ever hated blown up good. Sad to know this sack will be neither.
Brad Wright and Jonathan Glassner took a good idea from a movie, struck gold with their casting and made several great seasons, a bunch of really good ones and a couple of whatevers (I'm looking at you, Stargate Command). Brad Wright and Robert C. (Uber-Geek) Cooper took that franchise and came up with a semi-clone that had the promise of being stranded in another universe. They turned it over to M&M who turned it to shit (but at least the actors found ways to entertain).
So this? Combined with the new & stoopider-than-ever PTB at Skiffy? *sigh* Reminds me of the Asgard cloning dilemma. After awhile, it just doesn't work anymore. (Boys, you are cordially invited to prove me wrong. And always, you know, the other thing.)
cutecouple
Aug 23, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
From the
gateworld article:
Wright and Atlantis and Universe co-creator Robert C. Cooper will serve as show-runners, and are currently writing the premiere episode.
I find this vaguely reassuring, except that I still hate them.
BigBeagle
Aug 23, 2008 @ 1:34 pm
So, is this going to be Stargate: Voyager, Stargate: Galactica, Stargate: 90210 or some combination of the three? Because everything I've seen so far does not fill me with anticipation.
Although the idea of seeing Felger, Walter, Jonas and Pete blown to smithereens sounds like a dream pilot episode. Sneak the entire IOC in and off them as well, and I promise to buy the DVDs.
CoderLady
Aug 23, 2008 @ 2:53 pm
When I was a teenager I watched TNG religiously and worshipped at the altar of Picard despite the fact that he was a stoggy British guy in his late 40s with balding gray hair. It's all about characters and I think anyone, no matter their age, will watch an interesting actor flesh out a complex character over someone who's there just to be youthy eye-candy. Senator X
My high school life was hard enough, and bitchy teens w/ entitlement complexes or super-angst make my toes itch to kick in real life; I have no desire to allocate tv time to these people. Jenazz
So...they want someone who's already a name, but young enough to carry all this "Psst! Ensign Yummybutt wants to know if you'll go for a milkshake with her after school, err bridge shift" guff? Someone who is So! Damn! Photogenic! that when they cry on camera over the dead body of their fit girl/boyfriend they still look radiant, and don't have any snot or red eye. Plus, it would help if it were someone based in Canada, and used to greenscreen special effects demands. Oh fuck!!!! Kristin Kreuk's leaving Smallville this year, isn't she? Fucking Pink Squirrels in Space!!!! Even Halley would be better then this. Hell, Vanessa Angel would be better then this. HauntedBathroom
I'd love to see another good
Stargate on Friday nights. I miss SciFi Friday. But the youth-obsession does not bode well. Sure, young actors are great on teen-oriented shows; all long hair, taut skin, big eyes and shiny teeth, and they look great in tight uniforms running down corridors and firing energy weapons around corners at bug-eyed monsters, but actual acting? Not so much. And the token older characters don't come off well in young-skewing shows. The older people are usually moustache-twirling villians, ineffectual superior officers to be gotten around, or the occasional estranged parent. Or a combination of any of those.
I'll give it a chance but if I find myself muttering dialog along with the actors because plot complexity has to be dialed down to the cast level and is just so predictable, I'm out. Damn.
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