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hoodooznoodoooz
She's not THAT old. How did she get those deep lines around her mouth?
PhineasPoe
Too much tanning and drugs.
trice77
I saw the preview special. The assistants seem like they'll be the stars of the show.
TinkyWinkyBinky
How gay is her husband?
OilyHumanoid
Man, they'll give any loser a reality show, won't they?
stuckingeorgia2
I was wondering if anybody had watched this monstrosity yesterday and am glad I found a post for it.

I don't find Rachel Zoe relevant anymore but, that word doesn't seem to apply to anyone who has a show on Bravo so, enough said.

She use to be a big-time stylist for Lindsay, Nicole Richie, etc. and developed that whole "bohemian chic" look but, she is just unwatchable.

Does she have THAT much money to be able to live so exclusively? And boy, did I EVER get the gay vibes from her hubby...not that there is anything wrong with that!!!
Ceruleana
I saw a picture of her in YM Magazine (back in the day when she was going by Rachel Rosenzweig), and I thought, "Wow, she's gorgeous! She should be a celeb, not styling them."

Oh, how things change. When does this come on again?
radicalmoderate
Who's the crackhead that gave this irrelevant anorexic whore a show? I want to know what went through that mind.
PittsburghDiva
She use to be a big-time stylist for Lindsay, Nicole Richie, etc. and developed that whole "bohemian chic" look


I was suprised that she got a show, as her popularity has peaked. She was responsible for the whole "starve yourself into a size zero" also and, allegedly, was the stylist handing out horse tranquilizers to celebs to help get them to that size. I think the only celeb I have heard her currently styling is Jennifer Garner.

Anyway, haven't watched it yet but will check the trainwreck.
JimLahey
I don't find Rachel Zoe relevant.


Fixed.

By way of cross-promotion, she's scheduled to be a judge on Project Runway later this season. She'll probably be the one who gives Blayne a win, seeing so much of herself in him. Not a good thing, btw.
hoodoo
TinkyWinkyBinky: How gay is her husband?
stuckingeorgia2: And boy, did I EVER get the gay vibes from her hubby...not that there is anything wrong with that!!!
Thank god, I thought it was me. Although he did have that almost butch moment, complaining about how much she was running up her credit card.

I just don't understand an adult woman needing to hire someone to help her get dressed. Very sad & pathetic, IMO. I even hate it when sales associates try to present clothing choices to me in a store.

I'm intrigued by the hardworking vs. slacker/kiss-ass assistant plot. I'm in that same situation right now. My coworker brought in flowers for our boss, & then called in sick the next day (she calls in sick & comes in 45 minutes late OFTEN). Our boss, apparently, is fine with it.

I would love to know what the slacker chose to do instead of moving the gowns to a dry area.
sleekandchic
Well at least one of my burning questions has been answered! WTH is Rachel Zoe? I've bought shoes and boots off piperlime and they have a special section devoted to "Rachel Zoe's Picks." Very mysterious to me since they never explain who she is and why I should care about her picks. ha! Rachel Says
JasmineFlower
I think I'll watch this one. I like the male assistant, think the female assistant has a really funky attitude. She probably has some valid complaints about him, but others are clearly her just not liking him (or maybe anyone).

The husband is ultra metrosexual. Major gay vibe. But being in LA and being married for 15 years, I'm gonna just hope he's really straight, cause there's little point in faking it at this point in that area.

I hope they distinguish who Rachel has actually dressed and the dresses she's chosen. Not just showing a pic of Jennifer Garner or Debra Messing, cause no telling who the stylist was at at that point. Though I did see that she chose the Oscar dress for Jennifer this year and it was amazingly beautiful.

Oh, and the female assistant hates Oscar season? Me thinks she's definitely in the wrong business. She just generally seems like a unhappy, prickly woman. If Rachel can get the guy trained, I wouldn't be surprised if the woman got fired.
simon920
I just don't understand an adult woman needing to hire someone to help her get dressed. Very sad & pathetic, IMO. I even hate it when sales associates try to present clothing choices to me in a store.


I totally agree with you in theory but the simple fact is that someone on a TV show (or working on a film) is often putting in 12 to 15 hour days. Really. If you're on a film you may be God knows where for a few months filming and so if you have some big event--an Oscars show or some such--you truly may not have the time to traipse from store to store to designer salon to salon to shoe store to a jewelry store and so on.

Plus the business is rift with insecurities, especially when Joan Rivers and every tabloid on the planet is waiting to pick your outfit apart and there's a huge amount of publicity hanging on what stupid dress you hang on your back. That's a lot of pressure--stupid pressure, I'll grant, but pressure, never the less.

That's why someone like Rachel Zoe exists. Awful as she is, she (and others) saw an opening and created a profession out of it.
JasmineFlower
I just don't understand an adult woman needing to hire someone to help her get dressed. Very sad & pathetic, IMO. I even hate it when sales associates try to present clothing choices to me in a store.


Not everyone has an eye for clothes. Great if you do, but it is a talent. Here's a more practical, real life reason to have a stylist. A colleague of my mom's has a stylist. She is a doctor, sort of homely, dowdy looking, but brilliant. She is very thin, pale, hair isn't something you really want and her clothes were just all over the place but all of it wrong. No one took her seriously. Her opinion was ignored in meetings, patients were speaking to other doctors. They just weren't taking her seriously, not because what she was saying was wrong, but because her look didn't remotely say, "I am a doctor, you need to understand the medical advice I'm giving you." She got a stylist and it was a complete 180. Her clothes still reflect her quirkier personality, but now in a more stylish and classy way. And it completely helped her career.

So, while I understand that not everyone needs a stylist, this woman did and she was better off for getting one, and I don't think its pathetic or sad that she asked for help. In Hollywood, where appearance means everything, it also makes sense.
fattymatty
I want her bitchy assistant to take out the idiot assistant so bad. That's the only reason I'll continue to watch. Is he for real? I hate him a lot, for some reason. At first I thought I would despise the assistant with the nasty attitude, but I love her. I love that she stomped in there and berated both of them during Rachel's pep talk. It was out of line, but the show is boring without her. Loved, loved that she told him to stop crying. Of course, he only started bawling more. I would love to make him cry on a daily! :)
monica53
In Hollywood stylists are like brokers. They are able to put designers together with celeberties. The stylist gets paid a fee and the celeberty gets to wear fabulous clothes for nothing, the designer gets great PR>

If you look at what people used to wear to the Oscar's you will see why people need stylists.
JimLahey
Aw, c'mon. Cher/Mackie ROCKED the red carpet!!!!!11

I doubt Rachel Zoe, Rachael Ray or God could have talked Cher out of wearing a Mackie.
Toleda
A glimpse of Zoe at last August's Paris show week

From the NYT, Sept. 2007:
“I love Paris,” Zoe said as she studied the menu. “If I spoke the language, I’d live here.” She looked up at the waitress, who had appeared at the table. “Can you do crudité?” Zoe said. The waitress looked confused. “You did it yesterday. With cucumber. If not, I guess a salad, no dressing.” The waitress still looked confused. “You see,” Zoe said to me, “there’s just too much of a communication barrier.” Zoe took a sip of her English Breakfast tea. “I wish caffeine had vitamins in it,” she said.


I sorta hope Mlle. Zoe has been reading a lot of early Waugh lately--this sounds like it was pulled straight out of Vile Bodies. (Vile Body would work well as a nickname, I think.)

The multipage article is full of these little sparklers. It's also really badly written--on page 1, note the two paragraph digression defending Lindsay Lohan's acting chops. But writing aside, it's clear that the author is just apalled by Zoe.

“I had someone say to me the other day, You are my muse,” Zoe said as we passed a Starbucks. “And I said, Don’t put that pressure on me.” She stared out the window. “We have to stop at Starbucks. Even when I’m in Paris, I only drink Starbucks coffee. Otherwise, I feel like I’m cheating on this country.” After ordering an iced tea and placing the cup inside another cup (“I hate condensation,” she explained), Zoe returned to the car.


Seriously, read this article! Zoe's agent and show co-creator describes what they hope the show will achieve:
“We want to do something educational,” he told me, “that you can still make money off of.”


To use one of Zoe's expressions, "it's bananies".

Edited because I couldn't resist adding another quote.
hoodoo
Sorry, JasmineFlower. I didn't mean to offend you.

So I went to the vintage store at 117 West 25th. They really do have a beautiful selection. The staff was really friendly & very excited to learn that the episode had aired. I asked if the camera crew, etc., was disruptive or whatever, & they said that, no, they (including Rachel) couldn't have been nicer.
Pepperminty4132
The NYT article says she's only 36. So, what's up with her skin?
DonVito
I really wanted to watch this show because I love clothes and fashion but..... I like really couldn't like get past like how she talks like a valleygirl like totally. She didn't use all of the "valleygirl" phrases but it was the way she emphasizes certain words that drove me like oh my god bananas.
xingcat
I really wanted to watch this show because I love clothes and fashion but..... I like really couldn't like get past like how she talks like a valleygirl like totally. She didn't use all of the "valleygirl" phrases but it was the way she emphasizes certain words that drove me like oh my god bananas.


Seriously, and she and her two assistants talk entirely through their noses. It sounds like a convention of mentally challenged sinus patients.
lissy
You read my mind about the valley girl talk! I was so annoyed with it and I'm originally from the Valley! I wonder if she does it to make herself seem cooler or she thinks that by speaking that way people will think she's younger. She's such a drama queen!
foodie100
Crikey.

That skin. I'm speechless.

No, I'm not. It's like looking at a waxed-up, makeup-ed corpse. Complete with the constant open mouth and dead eyes, I'm officially extremely creeped out.
PorkFat
Her skin reminds me of those old school brown Louis Vuitton bags.
Tre Coltivatori
Taylor is an enormous bitch. My gawd. Seriously, I've never seen anything quite like it. She acts like two years of employment is a lifetime and the industry/world owes her something.

I started watching this show thinking I would hate Rachel Zoe and while I think she's definitely from another planet, the one I hate is Taylor.

Brad needs to start being a more attentive employee, but Taylor needs to understand that she is way out of line yelling the way she does. I'd fire her ass in a second.


Pokey nipples. *snicker*
sleekandchic
BRAVO was promoting The Rachel Zoe Project tonight during the breaks from Project Runway. The dress that Rachel is wearing and posing in for one of the previews was superduper ghastly ugly.

I know it's generally accepted now that all celebs must have stylists to dress them for red carpets and such, but sometimes, to me, it looks like either the stylist has no taste or actually hates her/his client. Rachel's own dress in that preview didn't impress me as tasteful or pretty in the least.
LeDucDiableBleu
I first saw the title of this show on my guide when I trying to find something to watch. I was actually excited because I thought it was going to be a show about fashion. I remember seeing Rachel Zoe a few years ago in the heyday of Lindsay Lohan and I would be interested to see how she does her job and her views on fashion.

I SHOCKED to see what she looks like!! WTH happened to her? She must have been doing some hard drugs over the last few years because she looks horrible. And geez she's definitely got an eating disorder. She acts like her head is in the clouds and she can't think straight. I was disappointed. I kept thinking this show is going to cost her clients.

The two assistants seem like Bravo-plants to me. They're way too over the top and crazy to hold down any real job in that industry. Taylor thinks the Oscars suck? I'm sure that was for shock value because no one who loves fashion would say that.
CelticGoddess
Didin't 3 of her biggest clients (Nicole Ritchie, Mischa Barton and Lindsey Lohan) all get busted for some drug related issues? I think she encourages them to use all means necessary to look like walking hangers. The message she sends is odious and destructive.
Dartower
I don't know this woman but I was backtracking the DVR, and I wondered why this woman kept kissing the gay guy? Rewound a little further to see that she introduces him as her husband. Okay, so then I have to ask why did she marry that gay guy?
tanyat
The NYT article says she's only 36. So, what's up with her skin?


There is NO way this woman is in her thirties. I'm in my late thirties and I look at least 10 years younger than her. And I don't have the money for or access to the types of beauty products that she does. Oh, and I smoke.

Methinks she lies about her age as younger is definitely better in that industry. What 20 something starlet is going to get fashion advice from a woman in her mid-forties (which is what I think is her more accurate age)?
littlechloe
I tried to watch this show but it was so boring and had all the reality cliches. Watch Rachel go to a fashion show. Watch Rachel go shopping. Watch Rachel's gay husband complain about Rachel's shopping. Watch Rachel act like her made-up job is really important.

I'd rather watch paint dry. It's about as relevent.
headhurt
I tried to watch this show but it was so boring and had all the reality cliches. Watch Rachel go to a fashion show. Watch Rachel go shopping. Watch Rachel's gay husband complain about Rachel's shopping. Watch Rachel act like her made-up job is really important.

I'd rather watch paint dry. It's about as relevent.


Word. I will not be tuning back in. If I want to watch a show about self-important bimbos, I will check out the Real Housewives of Bimboland (take your pick).
Miss Modular
There is NO way this woman is in her thirties. I'm in my late thirties and I look at least 10 years younger than her.


Restricting your diet to three pieces of asparagus a day (to paraphrase Nicole Richie) can do a number on your looks.
vtg10005
I SHOCKED to see what she looks like!! WTH happened to her? She must have been doing some hard drugs over the last few years because she looks horrible. And geez she's definitely got an eating disorder. She acts like her head is in the clouds and she can't think straight. I was disappointed. I kept thinking this show is going to cost her clients.

Does she have THAT much money to be able to live so exclusively?

Didin't 3 of her biggest clients (Nicole Ritchie, Mischa Barton and Lindsey Lohan) all get busted for some drug related issues? I think she encourages them to use all means necessary to look like walking hangers. The message she sends is odious and destructive.

RZ starves herself and uses to maintain that fashionable too-thin figure. That would explain her aged look. (As well as shaving some years off her bio.)

Most of her clients do drugs because, if my sources are correct, she is also a dealer. THAT is how she makes most of her money and is able to live so lavishly. This is also why many of her clients suddenly got thinner. She had easy access for them to use whatever drug necessary to fit the dress--- horse pills, coke, heroin. And anyone who hires her knows very well who she is and what she is about, as well as her "background", so that celebrity becomes open game for drug rumors.
Also, despite being openly loathed/rejected by many celebrities, her dealer status still keeps her "popular" in some circles.

I love fashion but won't watch her because I find her, aside from being a criminal, very overrated, fugly inside and out, gross, annoying, a social climber, a backstabber, etc. Not the worst qualities for a "reality" star, but she's trying to use this vehicle to be taken more seriously as well as reclaim her "it" status. Please. Go spread some coke on a table, share a straw with Denise Richards, and begone from television.
ags
I don't believe she fudges her age, if she does it is no more than a couple of years. There is an expression that after age 40 a woman has to choose between her face and her ass.

Rachel Zoe and Victoria Beckham are two women who had to make the choice well before they reached 40.
LahLah
Now I have a high tolerance for pain, but Zoe's face is darn painful to look at.
Monique
BRAVO was promoting The Rachel Zoe Project tonight during the breaks from Project Runway. The dress that Rachel is wearing and posing in for one of the previews was superduper ghastly ugly.

I love how FAAAAR away the camera is during all of the promos for this show. Heidi and the other Bravo hosts usually jump between close-ups and full-body shots within a promo, but all I ever see for this show is that shot of her in the long, flowy dress from about half a mile away.

Because who'd really aspire to look like Gollum in a dress, I guess?
LithoGirl
I was shocked(!) by how old RZ looks.She really needs to gain some weight-it might help her face.
lvmom
I have her book, Style A to Zoe. It's actually an okay book, although a lot of the book is tooting her own horn and going on about celebs and herself. In it one of her big tips is to be tan, and she hates fake baking. She says most people should fake tan, but she herself believes in baking in the sun. Lots. That's how she relaxes. Between that and the dieting, there's your answer to the wrinkles.
HogansMom77
The NYT article says she's only 36. So, what's up with her skin?

Whoa, if that's true, she needs to stay out of the sun. She looks haggard.
LaCoquina
Based on her looks and her voice, I bet she also smokes pretty heavily, or used to.
Toleda
Rachel Zoe Launches a Clothing Line and We're Worried

A must read, plus a series of truly mortifying pics of Zoestyle. Shudder.

BTW, the September issue ofBazaar has an article extolling Zoe's virtues, and this weird deal where they pad her up to a size 8 The full article is at http://www.harpersbazaar.com/magazine/feat...-interview-0908.

Why am I obsessed with this haggard wee sprite?
Phlox
unwatchable dreck.
tortfeasor521
Her husband looks like Todd Oldham to me.

I can't believe she's in her 30's. I've got to go out and buy a whole skincare regimen now after seeing that.
vtg10005
I can't believe she's in her 30's. I've got to go out and buy a whole skincare regimen now after seeing that.

Avoid drugs and tannings, and eat some food, and you should be just fine. :)
EmbiggenedSoul
BTW, the September issue ofBazaar has an article extolling Zoe's virtues, and this weird deal where they pad her up to a size 8 The full article is at http://www.harpersbazaar.com/magazine/feat...-interview-0908.


Size 8!?!?!? Maybe in the children's section. What a puff piece that was.

I watched the show once, and while the drama between the assistants was mildly interesting, and there was some good clothes eye candy, I hate what she represents too much to watch this ever again.
BitchySmurf
I just caught this during its rerun. Wow. I agree with everyone who said Rachel looks really old. Her skin is that of a 70 year old or something. And she wears terrible outfits. I would never let a stylist who looks like her near me.

I kind of hate both the assistants. Brad seems fun ("Let's spoon!") but he clearly wants Rachel's job. And, let's be honest, he could probably do it better than her. However, he does do what he was hired to do which was help Taylor. Taylor, on the other hand, seems like a beast most of the time but she has a point when she complains about him. She really shouldn't have to yell like that. Rachel should run a tighter ship; she's letting Brad goof off when she knows he's supposed to be doing other shit.

Also, something really bugged about the editing of this show. It was like a clip show the whole time. They never really followed through on any of the plot points. Fashion week is amazing! Cut to shopping at a vintage store! Cut to assistant problems! Cut to shots of people on the red carpet! Cut to water damage! Cut to more assistant problems! Now the show is over. Yet, somehow, nothing has happened and a half hour of my life is gone.
SassandtheCity
I think the first episode was a preview of the whole series, not an actual episode per se, BitchySmurf.
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