I hadn't noticed before what an incredibly weak chin Donald Jr. has.

Is it just me, or would you have to be a gullible idiot to pay for a Vera Wang mattress?

Is she going to launch a brake pad line next?

Why is Omarosa wearing those horrible Cruella de Ville outfits (the black satin number she had on during one interview shot & that white monstrosity she wore in the first episode)?

FINALLY. It's about time that hack got the boot.

Hey "Celebrities": Charity called. Even a contribution's not worth this drama.

I'm glad that Nelly is finally fired. George nailed her problem exactly; her strength is supposed to be in creativity but she always fails to be creative in creative tasks. Although I have a problem with Steven taking off to talk at a church, he had as much as a right to do that as Tito did for missing last week's task.

I still maintain Trace is the only person I like on this show. I hope he wins.

Yeah, so glad Nelly was finally fired. She was grating my last nerve. I just wish there had been a surprise double firing and Omarosa was fired as well.

What a great night. First Survivor, then this.

OK I'm easily entertained. And reality tv is all about the hate, if you're me. Again- what a great night.

I'm not sure why I'm always so happy when Hydra wins. I kind of like Marilu, fond memories of Taxi days, but she bugs on the show. I don't care for any of the other women.

The men also bug greatly- but they are so entertaining when they do it. I just get a happy little shot of joy when they once again kick the women's asses. I guess it's all because of Omarosa.

Steven is such a tool. The only good thing ever about him was watching him fight with Piers, and they did work together well. So he threw that away and now he has ruined what little goodwill I had for him.

I'm rooting for Piers to send O out, humiliate her so badly she can never show her face again, and win. Then I want Trace to come hang out with me and my friends and say smart things and give "that look" when we say something stupid. The rest of them can go to hell.

Neleh's charity really needs to be helping people have those things like she has on her face removed. It looks like she had her freaking intestines implanted there. That is sooo gross. I will never understand this fashion. It looks like something you should pay to have corrected, not something that you should emulate. A few years ago if you had put her and Angelina Jolie on a telethon people would be dialing in to help them correct their hideous deformities. It looks like she could suffocate herself if she whistles.

I'm doing the happy dance now that Nely is finally gone. She really shot herself in the foot tonight and Trump really let her have it. *LOL*

OK, so exactly what is so "special" about a Vera Wang mattress that I presume makes it sell at a premium price? I don't get what they mean when they said she "designed" it. I would think that Serta still makes all the inner springs and coils and chambers and whatnot, so what exactly is Vera doing? Designing the pattern on top? Big deal, it's going to be covered up by sheets.

I thought that Omarosa was a good project manager. She was a good leader and she was decisive and strong. Lennox sucked. He's just awful, and he was laughing about it, so I think he knows that he sucks.

I liked the women's window better. It just looked so much more professional and nice. The men's window looked sparse and confusing. So they have Antony and Cleopatra sitting on a mattress, but they're surrounded by all these high-tech items while a woman in modern dress feeds them grapes? Makes zero sense to me.

Omarosa was smart to bring Nely in to the boardroom, because she knew that Trump had wanted to fire her earlier.

George!!!

Oh and the men did a nice job. Trace is really rocking the whole creative-idea/big-picture front.

Awesome. My only regret is that Piers didn't throw champagne back at that overdramatic, backstabbing bitchsnake Omarosa. Love it. I had such low expectations for this show, that it would just be B-list celebrities preening for the camera, not really trying, just a big PR stunt. It has SOOOOOOOO exceeded those, this may be my favorite season EVAH. Quality.

Am I the only person who was completely flabbergasted by Piers' comment to Omarosa about how if she was at the White House, it was in the role of a cleaning person?

Ah George, the voice of reason. I've missed him. It was nice to see him being a viceroy, instead of being paraded out to mutter meaningless nonsense during a finale.
I know! I've missed reality double feature night. It's been long overdue.

Can someone explain Nely's charity to me? She's helping people become entrepreneurs? Did I hear that right?

Assorama can thank Trump for strongly hinting about Nely's past performances; otherwise, her fat ass might have been taking the limo of shame.

Did the women even ask the Serta guy one question? It seemed like they fell in such rapture of meeting Vera Wang that they forgot that the real client was Serta, not Vera.

All I know is I don't want a mattress that says "Wang" on it. Ewww.

I love Pierz rubbing Assogrossa's face in her own failure.

Piers is obnoxious. Clever, but obnoxious.

The women deserved to lose for the lack of creativity, but theirs really did look better than the men's. (And I agree with blackwing that the men's concept didn't really cohere, with the randomly thrown in technological gadgets. I wish someone had acknowleged that.)

Omarosa is SOOO good in the boardroom. She really is. She knows exactly what to say, where to look, etc. At the same time, she lucked out with her telepathic connection with George re: Nelly's suckitude. She's long overdue for a project win, IMO, because when she loses she still does a pretty good job leading her team.

I haven't laughed so much watching a TV show for a long, long time.

Stephen was such a putz. Oooh, oooh, Piers was mean. Boo-hoo, I wanna go home. Too funny when the women told Trump they didn't want him.

The guys were hysterical.

Assarosa's thing was pretty, but if I were walking down the street, I would walk on by. SOS in umpteen other windows. With the guys' window, I might go, huh?, and check it out. Still wouldn't buy the dumb overpriced mattress, though.

Okay, all the Lipstick Jungle hype during this ep was really tiresome. Seriously, is anyone that anxious for the premiere of Lipstick Jungle that they need a countdown on screen during CA?

George! He can replace Ivanka anytime he wants, as far as I'm concerned.

Lennox Lewis continues to go down in my estimation, week to week. Trace Adkins continues to go up.

I did not care for Hydra's window, though. Empresario's wasn't the most creative, no, but it had real movement in it that would be more likely to catch my attention as I walked down the street, than the small, stagnant movements in Hydra's. Also, I think Empresario's did a far better job branding Vera Wang's name on the product than Hydra's. Hydra's relied too much on signs with her name on them, than on the live action aspect to their window. I would not get Vera Wang just from that latter.

Also? Cleopatra and Marc Antony? With modern gadgets? Just... odd. The male model looked more like an Egyptian servant, anyway, than a Roman general, so I'm not sure I'd even realize it was supposed to be them if we hadn't been told. And if Hydra wanted a timeless romance, why not pick one that didn't end in blood, guts and poisonous snakes? It messes up the mattress, you know.

Agreed, Omarosa was very smart to bring Nely into the boardroom this week. She's known for a couple weeks DT wanted to fire Nely.

I can't remember the name of Nelly's specific charity to be sure but it might be one of the ones that help people in third world countries start businesses to support themselves. There are couple of neat ones out there, a much better explanation. Anyway I have already erased it but I think that is what she is talking about.



I turned to my mom and said, " Ha, Ha, the women are going to win, those losers don't even put sheets on the bed" and she pointed out, that is generally the case in a matress store. So once again I think the women just missed the damn point, but in their defense apparently so did I.

I don't like Nelly and she is not very competent, but Omarosa came up with the concept and the concept was what lost the task. In any ordinary show, she'd have been fired. Notice how she wouldn't cop to it at first and George had to remind her that she'd bragged about it to him? She's awful; how is it professional or ladylike or classy to dump a glass of wine on someone's head?

I agree with those who have said it's clear that it's fixed for her to remain to the end, no matter what.

Loved seeing good ole George back. We need more tough, gritty guys like him in the business world today.

Don Jr. is just so awkward, especially when he speaks. I am sure he is well-educated and all, but...

How old is Vera Wang? She looks rougher than what I may have expected.

Glad Marilu is still around.

Trace delivers the creative ideas once again.

ETA: I looked up Vera's age and I had no idea she's 58. I'll cut her some slack in the looks department For some reason, I thought she was around 40.

Where is Donnie Deutsch and his Nipples of Mass Destruction when you need him? Of course that need would pretty much have him as the judge on almost all of these tasks. But tonight especially, both teams tanked on this task. Nothing new for this pathetic season, but still. How bad did the Empressario window really look that the Dump allowed Assarosa to even be at risk by giving the win to Hydra? Of course the total lack of any real branding in the Bride's About to be Boinked window might have been more than enough to have the Mattress Man veto it entirely.

Though maybe Wang and the Mattress Man thought a frolicking wedding party dancing through the honeymoon suite as prelude to a Wedding Night Deflowering was a bit much as live window experience. It was a bit odd juxtaposition really. And having the second least popular Baldwin sit and smirk with his reality show overacted squiting leer as the curtain went down was probably not exactly the best move on their part. Cut to Wang trying to pretend her face still moves as she burbled in glee was just as disturbing.

And I loved Little Dump almost peeing himself (you could practically see the thought bubble pop over his head "don't make daddy angry...don't make him angry!!") when Nely went off on the Dump? Because as much as Nely sucks, and she does. We're talking sending her to the Alaskan National Parks and set those inflated of lips of hers down on the tundra to safely extract those oil reserves, she sucks so much. But Assarosa should have gone. Instead she smartly hears and follows the Dump pointing and basically telling Assarosa to bring Nely in once and for all. Nely of course only made her firing even more of a fact by pissing on the Dump. And it is hard to summon any sympathy for Nely because all she did was come off as someone who clearly rested her laurels on the sweat, creativity and hard work of her staff. Somewhere out there are a couple of former assistants that not only had to do their jobs but hers as well. Because for all her years of "experience" (i.e. holding a position), Nely knows little to nothing about production or promotion or, well, anything but what a plastic surgeon and a middling budget can do for you.

And another pathetic twenty thousand check. Hell they could have gotten a Vera Wang gown and auctioned it off and probably gotten more.

George just looked cranky. Of course cranky irritable George still comes off as the only one worth listening to on this mess. Well Trace. What the hell did that man ever do to deserve this? Oh yeah. He sings Coutnry and Western (sorry I couldn't resist).

No, they did not. I don't think they even noticed him. They were totally taken by being allowed to sit in one room with Vera and talk about her wedding dresses and lingerie. It looked like this Serta matrass was there to help "promote" Vera's dresses... not the other way around.



I thought she was a terrible manager. It was her idea. She should've been fired. But DT, obviously, has other plans for her.
And that champaigne she poured over the nasty brit? Yeh, very "dramatic"...



Tripple word to that. This was once a good show. But now? What a joke!

Ah, but that was their fatal flaw IMO. Vera Wang wasn't the client, Serta was. Vera is the client's designer. The women seemed to completely forget he was there during their Q&A. If you walk by that window and think "Vera Wang makes great wedding dresses", then they have completely and utterly failed in their mission. Serta didn't pay all that money to Vera to help her sell wedding dresses. The men's design might not make complete sense altogether, but it most certainly was Serta-focused. This was an easy one to call.

And on a separate and much more shallow note, Carol Alt in a sleeveless wedding gown? Pleasing.

Clearly.

Trump brings up how important the past is to him, harping on how he missed firing Nely when Simmons took the bullet. Why didn't Nely then state that Omarossa has now lost twice as team leader in this season, and that he already had to fire her once before just a few short years back?

Each contestant here has a number floating above their heads, and give or take a few episodes they will be fired in order.

I'm really beginning to think that Trace is kind of a genius.

True, but unless Vera Wang wasn't meant to be part of the brand image for this mattress, why bring her into it at all? Why not just use Serta's regular designers? I think the branding was meant to be both Vera Wang and Serta, and I got both from the women's window, i.e. the wedding dress, the sheep with the 58. Unfortunately, I didn't get either from the men's window. Without reading the sign.

Is this the night that all Baldwins are scheduled to quit their reality shows? First Steven tries on the Apprentice and then Daniel leaves Celebrity Rehab.

Let's hope William and Alec don't quit Dirty Sexy Money and 30 Rock, respectively.

I agree that Omarosa IS the queen of the boardrooms and that of all 3 times she was PM for the Apprentice, she actually did a good job in the lead(I've noticed that there's always at least one teammate that agrees in the BR). I thought George was going to go for her in the BR, but he was right in calling out Nely for her lack of creativity.

It was smart of Omarosa to want to keep everyone in the BR to "share the fate," but too bad George shot it down--I thought Trump was actually going to go for that strategy. However, Omarosa wisely followed Trump's advice, knowing that if you don't you're a goner, but I think she regrets losing Nely because that was really her only ally.

Pierce deserved to be doused with champagne after his White House comment and I for one am rooting for Omarosa to rip him a new one. It looks like they'll be on the same team next week, but I also sense that their team is going to win.

Every time I see him, I'm reminded of Eddie Munster. And he always looks like his suits are too large for him, like a kid dressed up as a man. His father has an unattractive face, IMO, and I particularly don't like those pouty lips, which ALL of Trump's children seem to have inherited, but on Junior, Trump's genes have expressed themselves in a particularly unfortunate way.

Trump to Nellie right after he fired her: "Get the hell out of here." Wow, classy.

Loved Piers's comment about Empresario, something like "These gorgeous women - and Omarosa." Hee!



I was thinking exactly the same thing!

When I saw Empresario going for the bridal theme, I thought two things: (a) wonder what the Sealy guy thinks about THAT? and (b) it's a MATTRESS, not a WEDDING GOWN. I mean, they're supposed to be branding, but I would think, branding Sealy more than Vera Wang. I don't know for sure, but I would guess Sealy is paying a crapload of money to have Vera Wang represent them, she WORKS for them, and it's THEIR brand that should be pushed. And also, are they specifically targeting women as their customers? Because Vera Wang is not going to be selling too many mattresses to MEN, not with her image as a bridal designer. To me, the Sealy/Wang marriage (heh) is a bit of a strange combination. But maybe Sealy knows that mattress purchase decisions are made by women - in which case, I guess it would make sense to them to hire her.

Nely said that her charity was Count Me In, which is a non-profit that focuses on helping women entrepreneurs by providing resources and guidance. It was started by Nell Merlino, who also founded Take Our Daughters to Work Day.

This is Nelly's bio on the Count Me In website:


Someone with that bio should definitely have been more creative in the Vera Wang and Dog Food commercial tasks.

Every time I see Don Jr. I want to tell him to grow a beard. And then I try to picture him with a beard. It never ends well. Ivanka is so the favorite.

The men's produced effort wasn't that great but their slogan had so many possibilities. In advertising you can always save a good slogan. Good execution won't make a bad pitch better.

That said the girls could have improved their message by making the Vera Wang mattress more of a Vera Wang luxury piece for life.

Sure you have the Vera Wang wedding dress and lingeree piece but you continue on to future years with kids jumping on the bed and curling up with the dog. With Vera Wang by Serta it doesn't stop at the wedding night.

Yea! Nely is gone! It was about time. Thank you Donald Trump.



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Is it okay to say that woman is full of shit on this forum? Okay, she's "creative".

I don't remember the actual numbers, but yeah, at the top of the show, they did say most mattress purchases are made by women.

It seemed to be more of a tease for her backtalk than an offense to me, actually. Of course, Trump isn't exactly a gentleman, so I could be wrong.

Another subjective task - Quite frankly, Hydra sucked and they only gave them the victory so we could watch Omarosa in the boardroom. I'm pretty sure the show is at least partly scripted - but it's still entertaining.

I don't think we've seen Trace in a leadership role, but when it comes to contributing the "big idea" and focusing the team--he is absolute gold.

I think he may be the only contestant this season who really could win a non-celebrity edition of this show (going back to season 1 when it really was about skill and not drama).

Good job of class there with the wine-pouring, Omarosa.

Once again they show us Piers making sure they ask the executives what they want. Has he watched all other seasons?

Trace knows how to come up with ideas.

As someone who's not into Bridal stuff, Vera Wang or not, I'd've walked right past Empresario's window. But I'd've peeked into Hydra's if for no other reason than to confirm that there is, in fact, an Egyptian looking woman and a partly clad man lounging on a bed drinking champagne.

I thought the same thing the first time I saw the ad for the Vera Wang mattress. The only design element she could've contributed was the covering - which gets covered by bedding, so big deal.



To me, the Anthony & Cleo scenario looked like they'd come home from a costume party and couldn't be bothered to change. The concept would've been better if it hadn't included the modern gadgets, but to have set the scene in ancient times with the only modern aspect being the mattress. Although I don't know what Anthony and Cleo have to do with Vera Wang - which is why I thought the women's concept was more appropriate. Maybe it was predictable to use a wedding theme, but that's iconic Vera - and she uses that concept in their actual ads. When the women presented the idea to Vera, she didn't say anything negative about the bridal concept and she certainly seemed to like the vignette - so to claim later that it wasn't 'original' enough (when she uses the concept herself) was lame.



That's what I thought too. I saw Egyptian slave/concubine - not Marc Anthony.



That concept would work great in a commercial - like the ones for Kay Jewelers and Match.com where they show the progression of the relationship through the years. But it probably wouldn't have worked for this task because Carol and Stephen couldn't have gotten changed into casual clothing that quickly. They might've been able to change while a couple of kids and a dog were brought onto the set - but within what appeared to be the time constraints, I'm not sure if it was feasible. In actual living tableau windows the 'show' can go on for several minutes - but I got the impression that the CAs were supposed to present something relatively quickly.

On the website, it seems it's new foam technology but the outside is based on her bridal gowns, so I sort of understand why the women went that route, however, it didn't translate well to the audience.
(The TV ad doesn't really tell you much either.)




I think that's been a major problem for the women: they can make things look pretty, but they not promoting what they are supposed to promote: the Kodak tasks falls into this category. I was focusing more on the gowns that the mattress. Meanwhile, the men don't have a creative bone among them, but they pay attention to what they need push. That said, here's hoping that Trace finally gets a PM slot. He's been the quiet force behind the men's team, but I would like to see him in that leadership role.

I keep getting surprised each week when Trace comes up with these marketing pearls of his. The croc slogan first and then last nights. His ideas are what's keeping the men alive. Certainly not obnoxious Piers.

Add me to the list of people who don't understand the appeal of a Vera Wang mattress. Come on, are we that label conscious we'll spend big money to have a "designer" mattress that we end up covering with sheets anyhow? (OK, I know the answer to that but I still had to ask.)

I thought the women's window looked visually stunning, but when asked which of the three items was most important, Vera said "creativity". While beautiful, there was no creativity. Vera said she wanted them to think outside the box. That was so not thinking outside the box.

It seems that I'm the only person who actually liked the modern gadgets the men used. I thought it a nice juxtaposition to the historical figures and underscored the notion of it being "timeless". It also seemed visually interesting and more creative than the traditional wedding night display the women came up with. While the men's idea wasn't nearly as polished, the concept was much better in my opinion.

It also bugged me that any blame was placed on Marilu. Sure, she didn't seem clear and was maybe a bit manic, but the end result was a really beautiful set display which was her area. The end results of her area of responsibility were outstanding. It was the idea that killed them.

I get so happy when the guys win. Don't love them, but I can't stand the women's team. I actually like Piers. :)

Why do the men have to stop using Lennox as a model, but Carol can be used each and every time? Double standard..... Maybe because the men are winning so much.

If the teams were still as they originally were without team swapping, the women would be so outnumbered, that I wish it were. That would be funny to see.

Nelly annoyed me, so I'm glad she's gone. Her face.... yuck! She reminds me of that lady they profile on ET or something who's setting a record for most plastic surgery. She just looks fake or something.

The fact that the women covered up the mattress with sheets jumped right out at me - they're selling a mattress and they covered it up. WTF? That alone would be enough to cost them the task for me. Plus, the whole bridal theme was creepy, and not just because Stephen Baldwin was involved. It was hard to tell if they were selling mattresses or bridal stuff. I didn't think the men executed well on the Antony and Cleopatra theme (the modern gadgets seemed out of place) but the Great Romances/Great Mattress slogan was excellent - Trace is a huge part of the men's success (and I had no idea who he was before this show).

Nely has come up short virtually every week, this seemed more of a "lifetime achievement" firing than anything else. I guess the fact that there are only what, three Spanish-language channels on most cable systems is what keeps her employed - against any more competition she'd be buried as she does a horrible job of listening to the client and has zero creativity.

I'll join the ranks of those who have no idea why you'd want a "designer" mattress that you're going to cover with sheets.

I couldn't pinpoint who he looked like, but that's a definite bullseye. Eddie Munster wearing a suit. Junior is rather boring and I was thrilled to see good ole George back in his viceroy position. Nobody does it better!

When Nely dissed the Donald, I smirked when I saw Omarosa's eye flutter. Thou shalt not insult The Donald (look at the Rosie fiasco). Good riddance to blubber lips. If her lips went any higher they would be in her nostrils.

My respect of Trace goes higher and higher every week. Can't say the same for any of the rest of them.

It's just the second time they've used Carol isn't it?

So, Omarosa sold her best friend down the river. Although Nely was so totally meh it was high time to go anyway.

And what a sucker that Celebrity Apprentice is anyway. They pick out and bring back the worst contestant in The Apprentice history and she beats up all the "celebrity businesspeople" hands down.

After last week's show, I looked up some of Carol Alt's pictures, and she's actually better looking now than when she was younger. The youthful pics show a pretty girl, but bland (to me). She looked gorgeous last night, kicking her legs delightedly while Stephen spun her. Trying to make her nauseous to take her mind off their wedding night, no doubt.

I think Marilu was having a nervous attack last night, I was screaming at the TV, "She's not a window dresser!!" Her forte is construction? I DO know that someone needs to take some of that junk out of Nely's face, and inject it into Marilu's.

I liked the electronics in the men's set. It would have made me double-take. It also gave Marc and Cleo more to do in their window, instead of just laying there, wondering about Caesar.

'Looking forward to seeing Trace as PM.

Trace's slogan was genius and the image was smart. I would have executed it a bit differently, but I think he was spot on. If it hadn't been for him, his team would have won. He'll have to be the leader next week since he's the only one that hasn't led yet.

I don't get why Nely was fired. If the concept was the only thing wrong and Omarosa came up with the concept, how can it be anyone's fault but hers? It didnt' matter how it was executed, it was off track. I also noticed that not one of the women's team asked the Serta guy a single question.

A Vera Wang mattress? Really?

I love how Omarosa sneers at Piers for having no class. Witch, please....you're the one dumping drinks on people's heads. And she might want to watch her nasty alcoholic comments. Two members of the men's team have gone into rehab and rightfully might be offended by her bitchy remarks.