TWoP Pembleton
Jan 7, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
Each team is given a TV production crew and a cast of actors and dogs to create an ad promoting Pedigree's Pet Adoption program. One team struggles with their actors and crew, while the other team alienates the Pedigree executive by not meeting with him in person. One celebrity insults Ivanka, and in the boardroom she attacks his disrespect for women. In the end, the Pedigree executive chooses the best ad, and a celeb from the losing team is fired. Trump’s Eyes and Ears: Terry Lundgren (CEO, Macys’ Federated Dept. Stores) and Ivanka Trump.
MarigoldSkye
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:03 pm
Can I just say right now that the men's team makes me want to puke? They are such douchebags, I'm surprised any of them can manage to get their heads through the door. The only one I like on that team is the one that was grinning cheesily in the ad, the boxing guy. Piers and Gene can get lost now, thanks, and never come back, and take Squinty Stephen with them. Ugh. They make Omarosa almost look classy.
I thought Empressario's commercial was better, but maybe it's my dislike of the windbags that makes me feel that way. And hey, Trumpie? Marilu's done plenty of VO work before, and guess what? People likely recognized her voice.
See ya, Nadia. You were too classy for this crap anyway.
VAHokies
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:03 pm
It's pretty clear that Trump is going to get rid of the boring contestants first. Jennie Finch better start showing some personality, or she'll be next on the hit list.
Trace Adkin's voice saved the guy's team.
beejereeno
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:04 pm
My observations of tonight's ep...
I noticed right away that DT (I like to call him Dump) was able to not only recite the client's name but also point out what the guy does and give him a bit of a kudos. IIRC, last season Dump could not remember anyone's name in order to properly introduce the client to the teams. I wonder if DT had seen or heard the complaints us TWOP'ers had about that from last year!
I love how Pierce and Omorassa (the two most likely to be C or D-listers at best, out of the whole cast) cannot seem to fit both their overinflated egos in the same room. Her calling him an "alcoholic" totally like, threw me back to her and Janice WithADick-inson's banters on The Surreal Life a couple years ago!
I also thought it was hilarious how Omorassa just sat there when the project manager (Nely, who TF is this woman??) was asking the team to stand up and do her "white light" exercise, then Omorassa's talking head about how "It's fine if the project manager wants to yawn and stretch and sing Kumbaya, but I don't get into that existential BS" (or something to that end, I'm paraphrasing here).
I think the ladies' team had the right idea to sit down with the client and ask questions about his goal for the ad.
Gene Simmons really disappointed me this time around. I know he is a smart businessman, but he really ought to think before he speaks. I was a bit miffed about how he treated Ivanka and knew right away that it was a bad move. I had to chuckle a bit about how so many of the guys started interrupting each other about what they "pictured" or "here's my vision". Dudes! You're not the PM! Settle down!
Finally saw Nadia on the show for a brief moment in the beginning. Everyone was talking at TWOP in the last ep thread about her, and I did not even see her until tonight.
I think it was very smart of the ladies' team to hire actors and a production crew. The men's team's sloppy, incoherent and disconnected work on their project really gave me the hunch that they were going to be a slam dunk decline from the client.
I thought it was a bad idea that they decided to do the edit work without the rest of the team, and I agreed with Tito on his talking head about the fact that since the team cannot view what was done, they cannot justifiably defend themselves in the boardroom. Having said that, I had a hunch that it was going to be Baldwin and Simmons in the boardroom tonight.
What the fuck was all this crap Gene was spewing about forgoing the War room and some bs in Mandarin?!!! Gah. Then Pierce and Dump start going back and forth and whatnot, it just made me squirm. I felt like I was a spectator at the preliminaries in the "Gee, let's see who's dick is bigger" Olympics!
Good on Ivanka to spill her guts on Gene in the boardroom and then Dump asking Omorassa what she thought. And sorry, Gene, your "sincere" apology was not heartfelt! And did you see Baldwin and Simmons giving each other "skin" in the boardroom during the ladies' commercial? What a prick and a half!
I liked the ladies' team's commercial better although I thought Lennox did have a great smile in the mens commercial and it melted my heart when he smiled while holding the dog.
I gasped aloud when I heard the decision. I agree that the mens' team's ad was a bit better, but the way the team did the job was deplorable, and so was the PM. Had Dump been in charge of this project's outcome, he would have chosen otherwise becuase let's face it, Dump *does* tend to take things personally when you don't act appropriately, etc. etc., and I seriously think that given the way Gene treated Ivanka--ALONE--Dump would have given Hydra the axe if he was the one who had to choose.
I can't believe they tried to throw Nadia under the bus and I called BS when Dump said he thought Nely went "overboard" and got "carried away" during the presentation. It deserved an explanation, IMHO.
I really do love the show when Ivanka is on. I can't stand Dump, Jr. because he just clings to daddio. Why was the CEO from Macy's on here? Did I miss something?
Nadia is looking GOOD! I ended up understanding Nadia's trouble that she cannot defend herself properly. Too bad she had to go. I would have liked to have seen her fantastically fail at leading a project.
PS - I'm gonna NEED to see that re-cap on Saturday so I can catch that deleted scene between Gene and Ivanka!
Stacey Lou
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:05 pm
I'm glad Nadia is gone, I was worried about her. She can return home, and continue good works and being a local hero. But she shouldn't have screwed up lunch. As we say in the provinces, you can call me anything you want, but don't call me late for dinner. And Hydra taught me a new definition of teamwork: When I tell you to leave the room, follow my directive, and get the eff out.
Stinger97
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
I wasn't surprised at the men winning the task, as I really did think their ad was much more endearing and slick, but I thought it would have been a much harder decision than what actually took place. Once I saw both ads side by side, it became obvious whose should win. I'm surprised that Trump didn't take Gene's treatment of both the guy from Pedigree and Ivanka into account, though I guess it wasn't his decision on which team won.
I didn't see Nely choosing Carol for the boardroom coming, but it was a stupid move. Marilu had a hand in quite a bit of what was criticized about the ad, so you don't bring her into the boardroom? What could the thinking behind that have been? Although I'm positive that with or without Marilu, the outcome would have been the same, with Nadia getting fired. She looked like she could barely stay awake, let alone lead the team. She had to go.
Omarosa saying that Lennox was hot was surprisingly human for her. Really caught me off-guard.
vampdeath
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:10 pm
People assured of making it to final 8: Stephen Baldwin, Omagrosa, Gene Simmons, and Big Pussy.
beejereeno
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:15 pm
(MarigoldSkye)
Can I just say right now that the men's team makes me want to puke? They are such douchebags, I'm surprised any of them can manage to get their heads through the door.
Ohmygosh, yes! I wondered the same thing. Seems each of them wanted to puke their "visions" and whatnot so much!
CRFTony
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:15 pm
Another week and another firing that had nothing whatsoever to do with the loss of the task. Oh well, at least I'm used to it.
I thought the men's commercial was much more slick and much more professional. Add in the great VO and it was the clear winner. The women would have done better if they hadn't tried to stuff 3 "stories" into 30 seconds. It was just too crammed full and looked and sounded amateurish. I guess the whole reason they lost though was because they didn't have lunch.
Orihara Kaoru
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:18 pm
Uh....why was the Macy's guy on this show? He had no connection to Pedigree, right? He was just a George?
Tonight's show left a bad taste in my mouth. It seemed like the women's team prepared the best and were working well as a team (I don't buy that BS about Nadia and the food). And then there was the men's team that wasn't cohesive at all, were bickering, and had bad planning. But they won. And I think I liked their commercial better. Bah. Why am I even watching this show? Oh yeah, so I can appreciate the recaps. :D
SideShow Steve
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:19 pm
I didn't see Nely choosing Carol for the boardroom coming, but it was a stupid move. Marilu had a hand in quite a bit of what was criticized about the ad, so you don't bring her into the boardroom? What could the thinking behind that have been?
I think it was because Marilu is such an asset, Nely was looking towards the future. Carol was 100% safe, so her bringing Nadia in was almost a sure bet for Nadia to be fired. If Trump had asked Nely the right questions about why they lost, then she could have been sent home. Trump went with the easy choice since Nadia barely breathed, much less defended herself.
heebiejeebie
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:19 pm
This show is so boring. When Nadia first appeared in her confessional/interview I thought she was with Pedigree and couldn't understand at first what and why she was saying what she was (no doubt I was looking when she first appeared on screen with a caption explaining who she was).
The women's ad was a joke. I kept waiting for the narrative to go "Rot-ro, Elmo". And the men's wasn't much better. The actual footage looked like something from America's Funniest Home Videos. The voiceover was what made the ad. So whoever wrote it and Trace with the image of Lewis sold it. What they should have done was include several of the guys and not just one. Just show a bunch of dogs in their cage, then show them gamboling and then end with Lennox, Tito, Gene and Peirs with a dog in their arms. All four guys are known as tough nuts and it would have hammered home the star power.
The women's ad was a joke. Did I mention that? I did? I guess that is it then.
borderottie
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:20 pm
How incredibly obnoxious.
First of all, I liked the women's commercial much better. They guy's was good but the ladies really pegged it (IMHO). Trump needs to get his head out of his backside... Marilu has a very recognizable voice, especially on THAT team. I also hated the way he has to throw everyone and everything under the bus for the most nothing reasons.
So far after two weeks, it's apparent that they just fire folks cuz someone has to go. All the folks are professionals and not the traditional slackers from seasons past. Trump's reasons are ridiculous and incredibly irrelevant. He literally pulls stuff out of the air to fire these people for! No doubt they are all getting some size of check just for their charity just for being there.
I got the impression when the three ladies were sitting alone waiting to go back in that none of them are seriously too concerned about getting "fired". These people have big lives back home... as opposed to other seasons where someone would go back to being a waitress or something.
I agree that Nadia is FAR too classy to be on this show. I was in awe of her just seeing her on this silly ass show. She is nothing short of a true LEGEND and doesn't for a nano-second need anything Trump has to offer.
I do agree that it was Trace's voice that really won it for the guys.
I love that the women wore the Pedigree colors. Nice touch.
The women's ad also didn't need a celebrity presence, it would have looked too out of place and forced. Trump is so fascinated with the whole celebrity thing and who knows who and all that shizz. YAWN!!
Macy's guy: Guess that explains why Macy's is always so unstable. WTF?
Gene's behavior shouldn't have surprised Ivanka. No one's ever accused Gene of not being a pig when it comes to speaking his mind, especially when it comes to women! With that, I say they ditch Trump and give the show to Gene. (you read that here first....)
I'm bored with Trump... and his croanies.
abd zelda
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:24 pm
I would like to introduce Omarosa to two words (no, not "existential bullshit").
Those two words are age appropriate.
As in, the brown micro-mini Omarosa wore to the Pedigree executive meeting was not age appropriate. Here's a clue: if you are too old to wear tights with ruffles on the bum, you are too old to be wearing a skirt you need to tug down to ensure that your ass is covered.
filmcamerachick
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:27 pm
Good Lord, how I laughed when Stephen douched: "I've been acting in films for twenty years" and someone else (not sure who) responded "Have you?" It just was such an ego-deflating moment - not that Stephen actually noticed.
Really didn't like his whole director power trip ("Everyone has to listen to me, as the DIRECTOR.") and his state of absolute shock and affront that the other guys would dare to come into "his" (and Gene's) editing room. He would be just that type of guy, as one of them said, to throw them under the bus for "leaving" when he kicked them out. Get off your high horse, Stephen, you're no auteur.
I would definitely call Marilu's voice recognizable - in fact, hasn't she done some other VOs for commercials?
The only saving grace for me this week was the lack of Don Jr. That guy seriously bugs me.
blackwing
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:31 pm
I liked the women's commercial better too, but I think that's because I really don't see anything likeable about any of the guys. The Ugly Baldwin can be entertaining, but only in small doses. Piers continues to be an ass and all of the rest of them are like blanks. None of them seem all that bright.
Buh bye Nadia. She was all wrong for the show. Did she even know what she was getting into? She's way too meek and reserved.
Gunslinger15853
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:35 pm
Who the hell was the blonde woman sitting with the girls during the boardroom?
Kudos to Gene for telling off Ivanka. Seriously. They're trying to do crap, they don't need you puttering around all "Hey guys, whatcha doin?" Go away.
Kudos to the promo monkeys for trying to blow the "fight" between Simmons and The Boss's Daughter way out of proportion. Also, from Trump's "You're a champion" talk in the new promo, I'm assuming Tito (who?) or Lennox gets the boot. But that's just me.
Holy crap, Trace (whose music I have never, ever listened to) has a captivating voice.
The Hydra ad made me squee.
I agree with Trump; I wouldn't know Marilu's voice. I don't even know who she is. Also, in some scenes she really reminds me of Katey Segal during 8 Simple Rules.
beejereeno
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:37 pm
Did anyone else notice that Dump pulled his old "since you're an Olympic medalist, which I really respect--I think that blah blah--with ALL DUE RESPECT and blah blah" tricks out tonight on Nadia again, just like he did last season with the hockey player woman? Since we all know Dump has a hardon for the athletic chicks, this was not a surprise for me to see tonight.
Just wanted to see if anyone else really caught that and wondered about it like I did.
hurtinfrog
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:39 pm
Any Dogs/puppies at risk are heart tugging! I am so impressed with G. Simmons instant recognition of "what is good/commercial"
Dump is right on!
beejereeno
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:44 pm
Kudos to Gene for telling off Ivanka. Seriously. They're trying to do crap, they don't need you puttering around all "Hey guys, whatcha doin?" Go away.
OK, I can respect your opinion on that, but if I recall at the outset of the project, Dump said that Ivanka and the dude from Macy's would be his "eyes and ears" during the whole deal, which based on past Apprentices usually means they will come a-snooping and usually puttering around ensues as well :)
I guess Gene either forgot that or really felt some male need to get on the attack on Ivanka.
I lurve Ivanka BTW. She has cajones that many men lack in business, IMHO.
heebiejeebie
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:46 pm
Did anyone else notice that Dump pulled his old "since you're an Olympic medalist, which I really respect--I think that blah blah--with ALL DUE RESPECT and blah blah" tricks out tonight on Nadia again, just like he did last season with the hockey player woman? Since we all know Dump has a hardon for the athletic chicks, this was not a surprise for me to see tonight.
Just wanted to see if anyone else really caught that and wondered about it like I did.
Once the Dump uttered the "most people are losers" comment my eyes were rolling so hard the clatter pretty much drown out everything else.
beejereeno
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:53 pm
filmcamerachick - I LOVE how you turned the word "douche" into a verb when describing Baldwin's nonsense. Hee!
Also just wanted to add that I now know that awful British ahole's name is spelled Piers. I had been saying it wrong. And spelling it wrong. Whoops.
After rewatching part of the show I saw his name on the screen and did not see the 's' at the end at first, so I thought his name was Piere (like Pierre) and guessed that everyone was saying his name wrong on the show. But now I know it's Piers.
So he's not only awful, he's PLURALLY awful!
Once the Dump uttered the "most people are losers" comment my eyes were rolling so hard the clatter pretty much drown out everything else.
That is just awesome! I mean, not that you can clatter your eyeballs, but that you didn't have to endure all the crap Dump spewed!
vampdeath
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:54 pm
Racist Moment of the Night: Trump asking Lewis if he likes pit bulls.
cynicalbastard
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:56 pm
Simmons is a cretin when it comes to women, and as much as I hate to agree with Omarosa, she's right about Piers being a drunken lout but I have to admit taht the men's commercial was far and away superior to the women's. It looked anmd sounded better and was more memorable. The women's was flat and forgettable
JessKess
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
Once the Dump uttered the "most people are losers" comment my eyes were rolling so hard the clatter pretty much drown out everything else.
Seriously. But then again, I do feel like a loser for watching this dumb show.
I thought both ads were pretty cheesy, with the mens being cheesier. They needed some filters on the cameras or something.
And the women again with not using their celebrity. Maybe third time's the charm? The Pedigree guy told them they weren't looking for celebrities - but I figured they'd still get in trouble for that.
isiscloud
Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:59 pm
I lurve Ivanka BTW. She has cajones that many men lack in business, IMHO.
True, but she's never going to be fired working for her dad so she can say anything. I'm not saying she isn't smart, she is, just that she doesn't have to worry much about making the wrong move. It's easy when you don't have anything to lose. Don, Jr. doesn't seem all that bright, though. He may be, but just doesn't have the personality Ivanka does.
I like the women's ad better, too. The men's is just done to death. LL reminds me of Theodore Huxtable...Malcolm Jamal Warner.
Squee! Westminster Dog Show!!!!
AVorlon
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:00 pm
Also, from Trump's "You're a champion" talk in the new promo, I'm assuming Tito (who?) or Lennox gets the boot. But that's just me.
Not just you, and I really didn't like being spoiled by the promo monkeys. That means one of
those guys are leaving and the men lost the task. More information than I wanted to know, so
I'll just skip that part of show from now on.
Stinger97
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:08 pm
Racist Moment of the Night: Trump asking Lewis if he likes pit bulls.
I took that more as, "you're a man so you'll be partial to a more 'masculine' dog," and less as, "you're black, so I know what type of dog you'd prefer."
SideShow Steve
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:11 pm
Not just you, and I really didn't like being spoiled by the promo monkeys. That means one of
those guys are leaving and the men lost the task. More information than I wanted to know, so
I'll just skip that part of show from now on.
Yeah, I'm worried about this too. He had to be talking to LL or Steroid Guy. Hopefully its the the promo monkeys screwing with us and Trump is saying something like " I could just say: "You're a champion , but you're fired, get out! But I won't say that." But that would still mean the guy's team loses and I don't like knowing that in advance.
Racist Moment of the Night: Trump asking Lewis if he likes pit bulls.
Didn't Trump say that to both Tito and Lewis? I think he meant they're both fighters and would want tough, fighting dogs.
beejereeno
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:11 pm
Racist Moment of the Night: Trump asking Lewis if he likes pit bulls.
vampdeath - Wow, I did not see that remark. Am rewatching the show so I will have to look for that and then try to catch Lewis' response if any...
mumbles
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:13 pm
Good Lord, how I laughed when Stephen douched: "I've been acting in films for twenty years" and someone else (not sure who) responded "Have you?" It just was such an ego-deflating moment - not that Stephen actually noticed.
LOL. That was Piers. Who then got served by the Pedigree guy when he asserted that everyone knows Lenox Lewis.
Another great moment: DumpTruck saying "Most people are losers." Really? Thinking of anyone in particular?
I liked both ads. The dogs were cute. And I actually liked Assaroma when she couldn't help herself from laughing at the guys' ad.
When Gene gave a teammate a High-Five while the women's ad ran (I believe there were up to the part where the sheepdog announced his disappointment when his family abandoned him) it was a moment for me that went from horribly obnoxious to evilly funny in about a split second.
Wolvesfan
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:17 pm
I thought the guys' commercial was miles better than the women's. Theirs was too sappy and they used too many dogs. I had the exact reaction to Lennox with the dog as Omarosa did, and I think that's what really sold the Pedigree guy. I loved how the Macy's dude said they should have had a caption with Lennox Lewis' name on the bottom, and Piers said everywhere the two of them have gone, people know who he is. A caption would have taken away from his relationship with the dog, and it was perfect. Trace's voice was amazing, as well.
I also loved the way Gene talked to Ivanka. He dissed her and I was cheering because I thought she came in at an inopportune time.
vampdeath
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:29 pm
The womens ad was just depressing as hell. I don't want to hear about people abandoning their dogs while I'm watching TV.
rphnick
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:35 pm
I was happy tonight because the tasks didn't involve turning out your "contact's" pockets to see who could produce the most money. At least this task required the contestants to rely on themselves. I thought the men's commercial was the better of the two when they were both played in the boardroom, but I thought for a brief moment that the men's (especially Gene's) asshat behavior would cost them the win. I'm almost glad that Nadia was sent home since she didn't seem to be enjoying herself, but she didn't deserve to be thrown under the bus. And even though I'm not an Omarosa fan, I did thoroughly enjoy her snark about breathing white light in and out and refusing to stand up to participate in the little ritual. I would have called it existential bullshit too.
Paul Servo
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:37 pm
Marilu might have done a lot of voice over work, but I personally wouldn't be able to recognize her voice unless I saw her on the screen at the same time (or if I was a friend or relative of her I guess). On the same token, I don't know Trace Atkin's voice (I don't listen to the country music). But the dude has an attention grabbing speaking voice. While I wouldn't go the "voice of God" route that Gene went, it is powerful. Combine that with the image of Lenix Lewis with the dog and you have a great PSA.
Nely really should have gone. While Nadia really didn't seem to do what she was designated to do (from what we were shown) and folded like a house of cards at the Brady house, she was not the reason the women lost. That responsibilty goes to either Nely or Marilu. I say Marilu because of the poor job the voice actors did. But given that she wasn't there, Nely should have gone. Not only did she have final say on what was done, she did the hectic presentation and brought in Carol who Nely admitted had no factor in the loss.
I have to admit, I love Gene in the most hetero way possible. The ego thing is an act I believe. That's just from what I've seen on FAMILY JEWLS. His family mocks him mercerously on that show. Wether you believe it's scripted like HOGAN KNOWS BEST was or if it's really what the family thinks, those confessionals just make him look like he's nothing.
Ok another theory is that the ego is real and it's his famil that keeps him in check. Without them, he's Trump with slightly better hair. As much as I adore Ivanka, I chuckled during that scene and Gene's "appology"
Does anyone know if Gene has written a guide to business like Trump is shilling right now? I much rather read the Demon's guide to success than the Donald's.
Hamhock96
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:39 pm
Not just you, and I really didn't like being spoiled by the promo monkeys. That means one of
those guys are leaving and the men lost the task. More information than I wanted to know, so
I'll just skip that part of show from now on.
Yeah, I'm worried about this too. He had to be talking to LL or Steroid Guy. Hopefully its the the promo monkeys screwing with us and Trump is saying something like " I could just say: "You're a champion , but you're fired, get out! But I won't say that." But that would still mean the guy's team loses and I don't like knowing that in advance.
Isn't there still a softball champ on the women's team? Could be her.
Racist Moment of the Night: Trump asking Lewis if he likes pit bulls.
vampdeath - Wow, I did not see that remark. Am rewatching the show so I will have to look for that and then try to catch Lewis' response if any...
Lewis replied that he likes cats.
superpole2000
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:41 pm
The men's commercial was much better than the women's...and this second episode was much better than the first one this season. I am so relieved they quickly dropped the celebrity fundraising requirement...at least for now. This was good stuff.
The men's team is actually quite a good team. They have a good variety of talents and personalities and play to their strengths. I really enjoyed watching them win.
The women's team is rather embarrassing. Perhaps they are successful people, but good teammates they are not.
I am going to watch the rest of the season now, if only so I can hopefully hear Nely say, "It's gettin' hot in herrre!" during a boardroom.
protanto
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:43 pm
I thought the episode was pretty boring - that's to say the least. The "drama" they tried to create was like low sodium, non-fat, and meatless hot dogs. Just a big BLAH. Why the hell did they fire Nadia? Yes, she was a bit lost in that room, but she was not the reason they lost. IMO, that was one of Trump's most rediculous decisions. I'd fire the PM - not only for loosing the task, but also for bringing in to the BR two people that had nothing to do with the loss - in my book, that's bad leadership.
Also, I did like the men's ad more than the women's.
Asafum Godeht
Jan 10, 2008 @ 11:53 pm
I think the pit bull comment was referring to the Michael Vick controversy. The show was taped while Vick was in court.
I noticed that Nadia was wearing stockings and dress shoes when she walked out of the boardroom, but she had big ugly boots on when she walked to the limo.
I bet they filmed everyone walking out at the end of the taping, and didn't pay attention to what they were wearing. This would prevent a spoiler from watching Trump Tower every day to see in what order the contestants were fired.
baby pickles
Jan 11, 2008 @ 12:02 am
It was nice to see Tito try to take a stand during the task, wanting to fight for his charity (whatever it is). I did enjoy the guys' commercial better, but thought Gene and Stephen were pretty prickly in how they treated the rest of the team. I enjoyed this task much better than last week, but wish Trump would get off their backs about pushing their "celebrity" because, lets face it, none of them really are.
coaster
Jan 11, 2008 @ 12:12 am
why was the Macy's guy on this show? He had no connection to Pedigree, right? He was just a George?
Worse, he was a Don Jr. replacement. That has to be a low point in anyone's life.
The womens ad was just depressing as hell. I don't want to hear about people abandoning their dogs while I'm watching TV.
I completely agree. Hydra's process was bad, but the ad was a much better ad. It looked ready to run as is, while the women's ad was so unpolished and yeah, just depressing.
One problem they had, I think, was that Nely started out with the premise that people think of dogs in shelters as undesirable animals. Is it really the general public's perception that shelter animals have something wrong with them? Maybe the people I know are the exceptions, but almost all my friends who have pets got them from shelters. But that's what she thought, so the ad set out to say "here's why these three dogs ended up in a shelter, see, they're not so bad."
It seemed to me like a very BADLY executed attempt to remake Pedigree's ad campaign from last year or the year before, where they had a dog in a shelter, with a voiceover that was supposedly the dog's voice, saying "I don't know why I'm here, I'm a good dog, I just want to go home." That's exactly what I'd imagine a dog would be thinking, and I nearly cried every time I saw that thing. But the women's ad gave those dogs some strange personalities. The poodle's "story" in particular - supposedly that dog was left at a shelter for GETTING FAT? I had to back up and listen to the ad again, because I could not believe my ears that they tried to make me think that a dog was wondering, "If I was thin, would someone love me?"
Eeesh. And Nadia getting fired? It was just her turn in the pre-scripted order of dismissals, in my opinion.
AngleMan
Jan 11, 2008 @ 12:16 am
Is Stephen a douche? Yes. How much did I love Alec Baldwin saying Stephen was full of crap? A lot.
I'm almost positive that I've seen a variation of the women's commercial before, and I've never been able to watch it properly because I just end feeling too guilty.
I also think the voice over for the girls commercial was basically crap, and I think that's why Stephen and Gene gave each other 5 they realised there's looked more professional.
Marilu didn't want to hear acting? Fine but how about hearing something other than flat line readings. And WTH was up with the female dog wondering if she was too fat to be loved. If the guys team had done that there would be people spitting nails.
ETA Coaster thank you. I thought that commercial plot seemed familiar.
Fellaway
Jan 11, 2008 @ 12:18 am
So The Donald thinks "most people are losers," eh? Way to win over an audience there, Trumpie. Wonder what he's using for the definition of "loser" and how much it involves the quantity of money a person has or doesn't have... Or Olympic medals.
I was really hoping Hydra would lose because, with the exception of Lewis (thus far), that is one obnoxious group of douchebags in serious need of ego deflation. And to think I used to like Stephen Baldwin well enough, back in the days of The Young Riders. Ye gads, I hope the persona he's showing on The Apprentice is an act.
And, yes, Piers, the Macy's guy is right: Not everyone in America knows who Lennox Lewis is, either by sight or name. I certainly didn't before Celebrity Apprentice. Of course, I don't know who you are either, Piers.
Agree with whoever said upstream that they seem to be firing the "boring" ones first, those who aren't making "good TV," with little regard to actual contribution to team loss at this point. Nadia may not have performed well, but what she did or didn't do had no bearing on the loss. Agree with whoever said the softball player better watch out next time the women lose.
To my thinking, Nely should've gone. Her leadership failed in concept and implementation. She performed poorly in both the presentation to the Pedigree exec and in the boardroom. She brought the wrong people into the boardroom. I wondered if she brought in Nadia and, especially, Carol merely because the softball player had thrown their names out, and not because she, herself, had analyzed performances beforehand with an eye to who to bring to the boardroom if they lost. Not bringing in Marilu was really remiss, and it was like she hadn't even had the thought that Marilu's performance merited a trip to the boardroom.
In the previews for next week's ep, did it look like one of the men was getting traded to the women's team?
baby pickles
Jan 11, 2008 @ 12:22 am
It seemed to me like a very BADLY executed attempt to remake Pedigree's ad campaign from last year or the year before, where they had a dog in a shelter, with a voiceover that was supposedly the dog's voice, saying "I don't know why I'm here, I'm a good dog, I just want to go home." That's exactly what I'd imagine a dog would be thinking, and I nearly cried every time I saw that thing.
This one? Yeah, it's a great ad and very effective. The women tried to do too much in their ad, and it just didn't flow well. Too frantic and jumpy and not enough heart.
Side note: I want an appointment with Ivanka's makeup artist. She looked stunning.
heebiejeebie
Jan 11, 2008 @ 12:29 am
The poodle's "story" in particular - supposedly that dog was left at a shelter for GETTING FAT? I had to back up and listen to the ad again, because I could not believe my ears that they tried to make me think that a dog was wondering, "If I was thin, would someone love me?"
You know, I did hear that. I actually parsed it. But not until I read it typed out like this, did I find it so freaking hysterical! Maybe they could have done some kind of tiny purse dog who says "I belonged to Britney Spears" or "I used to match Paris Hilton's purse but she is lucky if she keeps on for a week".
Still fat?! Didn't Marilu do the script? Does she actually think people toss aside dogs because they gain weight or does she know some horrific truth I'm innocently unaware of? I mean I do think that there are likely people who do that. I mean if a man who actually stands a chance of being the next President of the US is still unapologetic basically about strapping his family dog in its crate to the top of his station wagon for a nine hour trip that included freeways, I'm not shocked if someone told me some shallow idiot would get rid of a dog due to its weight, but for it to be one of the reasons in the ad seems a bit much.
For that matter I'm not sure raising the fact that dogs carry allergins for many people is wise thing to do either.
troubleinmind
Jan 11, 2008 @ 1:32 am
Funny because I usually hate testosterone driven males, but I did not mind it at all in this episode. First of all, their commercial was far and away better than the women's and just as the team who makes the most money wins in certain tasks, this task was that the team whose commercial was chosen by Pedigree would win.
I don't care that Gene didn't meet the guy so he could drone on about talking points they knew though it would have been "polite". I don't care that Ivanka got dissed because I don't like her and I much preferred both George and Carolyn. That may be an UO, but, I think she's monotone and ordinary and as someone said knows she will never get "fired".
Now, back to the commercials, the women's reminded me of when I'm up late at night and some promo comes on for "feed the children". This was exactly like that for me. I would most likely continue doing what I was doing. However, if the men's commercial came on I would watch it. All their elements were right. Their "actor" was perfect, their voice-over was awesome and their dog, yes, even that dog arched his eyebrow at just the right moment. He (?), too, was a star.
I think the women's team is weak. Marilu screwed up since acting is her specialty and the acting bit. Also, she should have kept her tone even with the other spots so they didn't have to edit her scene out. Nely did not call her in because she wanted Nadia fired and knew Nadia was meek and wouldn't defend herself.
Btw, what did that blonde girl do. What did Omarosa do? Not much. Nadia was fired under the Tiffany clause. She doesn't make great tv, she's expendable. It had nothing to do with the task. No worries, Nadia. You don't need this crap.
Ultimately, Nely was the pm and didn't do a good job imho, neither did MariLu. So, Nadia gets fired. Yep, makes perfect sense.
Lennox really has a beautiful smile and Trace Adkins has a great voice. Their entire commercial was charismatic and while the women said they were going for the emotional angle because women do that best, their commercial seemed dull, while the men's commercial was the one I felt emotion with. I was ready to go out and adopt a dog that minute.
In any case, the show is kind of a joke and I don't mind Simmons having an ego because it means hopefully that he won't take crap from Trump either and that's refreshing to me.
Also, while I respect the guys not wanting to be fired for a task they didn't have enough involvement with, it's really distracting when you are editing and have 40 minutes to get it just right and you have a group of big dudes who just wanna talk. I think everything was well-covered at that point.
I wish I liked someone on the women's team but they make it hard. The men's group may be a group of lugs but at least they entertain me. And yay, no one called in favors or donations though I thought $20,000 was cheap to give to the charity.
thuganomics85
Jan 11, 2008 @ 1:36 am
After seeing seven seasons of this show, I have to say the best (by best I mean funniest) opening credit shot of any contestants, offically goes to Gene, with the shot of him raising his hands, while fire shoots behind him. Hilarious! I wonder how they pulled that off? Did the credit director tell Gene "Okay, pretend you are the devil and raise you hands, like you summoning the fires from Hell to do your bidding!"?
Hydra: With the exception of Lennox Lewis and maybe Trace Atkins, they are a bunch of tools tooling around, but I sadly have to admit that they are entertaining. Stephen boasting about his twenty years of acting? Hee! Piers continuing to put his foot in his mouth? Hee, again. And Tito's rambling didn't make any sense to me. Had they lost, Gene and Stephen clearly would have been the targets for firing. Speaking of Gene, he's such a jerk, but I still find it hilarious how he doesn't give a shit at all. Oh, and I loved how he took his sunglasses off to "apologise" to Ivanka. He took his glasses off! It's from the heart, Ivanka!! Nice try, buddy.
Women's team (can't remember their name; don't really care): they seem more functional, but I thought they deserved the lost. Their commerical wasn't as good as the men's, IMO. As for the firing of the mysterious Nadia: once again, another nice but boring contestant bites the dust. Not too surprising. But Neily got lucking. Trump usually hates it, when you bring someone in the boardroom that doesn't deserve it. She survived, but she better be careful.
Next week: so Gene will join the women's team, Stephen manages to tip a table over, and what makes me the most exited? That Alec Baldwin will be showing up. Jack Donaghey is in the building! Yeah!
jhlipton
Jan 11, 2008 @ 1:39 am
My first reaction was to prefer the women's if only because they did the 2 things the Pedigree guy told them: it's all about the dogs, and it's not about celebrity. So when the douche from Macy's was saying "too many dogs" and "why not use your celebrity", they should smiled brightly and said, "the CLIENT asked us not to."
I think the women's big mistake was having the stories end in the shelter, rather than start there. If you look at Pedigree's Adoption spot for 2007, it's very simular to the women's ad -- lot's of dogs and no celebrities, but it's about the "good dogs" finding a new home. In that sense, the Douchebags' had the better ad -- a shelter dog finding a good and loving home. Having it be Some Random Guy works better than Lennox Lewis -- LL would seem like it was work for pay, and that he could afford any number of dogs. SRG is going to get a shelter dog because he likes dogs.
Now that I've calmed down from what seemed like another rigged win for the men (the first task certainly was), I have to say that the Douchebag's ad would make someone adopt, and the women's wouldn't, and Trace and LL deserved the win.
Imbaack
Jan 11, 2008 @ 2:46 am
Don't start and argument with Omarosa! She's tough! The exchange between her and Piers:
Piers: "sure you and carol have a pact"
O: ".... and tuck your shirt in"
P: "don't get personal"
O: "you made it personal"
P: blah blah blah
O: "Finish your drink:
Piers: blah blah blah
O: "I don't argue with alcoholics.
Viewer: OUCH!
Yowser! Omarosa doesn't back down. And she argues with that calm, haughty voice.
Nadia was fired because she blends in with the background...pure and simple. She hasn't stirred up any &#$% yet.
I love that Lennox said that he likes cats. Let's jump to the end and crown Lennox "the Apprentice".
sirkaliber
Jan 11, 2008 @ 2:52 am
Word is, folks:
"It's rumored that Omarosa was paid a staggering $100,000 dollars to appear on "The Apprentice," this season. A soap opera casting agent needs to hire her as a villaness because she's the woman America loves to hate." Taken from a gossip blog.
O was low key in this episode, but you can tell the way Trump keeps deferring to her, especially with Gene in this boardroom, and her new stylish intro celeb shot in the credits, she'll stick around very long and the rumor that she was contracted to stay on for a set number of episodes is likely true if the former rumor is true as well.
And regarding Nely, she seemed so blaze that she probably didn't care if she was fired. And poor Nadia just couldn't defend herself at all and couldn't help BUT get fired. I actually felt a bit bad for her.