Since there were lots of posts about season 8 — the possibility of it happening, who would be back if it happened, etc. — in the Spoiler thread recently, I figured it deserves its own thread.

Spoilers ARE allowed here, if they pertain to season 8, as in who will be back, etc., based on what we know.

To answer the query: no, no, a thousand times no. If the strike leads to a reduced season, I would accept a season 8 but even in that case I would honestly prefer a smaller season, maybe even a half season just for proper closure. I just really can't imagine dealing with another 24 episodes of wheel turning.

If Season 7 ends the way I hear the pre-strike-written episodes end, I definitely want a Season 8, because there's still a bit of story left to tell.

Even so, 6 or 7 episodes to wrap it up might not be enough.

But 9 or more? No way.

I know there's the concern about MR/KK/AM/etc. leaving; I think we should just wait and see before worrying too much there. If they know it's a solid endpoint, maybe they'd be more willing....

I for one would like a Season 8, even if just to see this mysterious 10 episode arc they've got planned. Goughlar seems to think that it's brilliant. And we HAVE to trust the execs. don't we? They've served us well!

Oh. Wait. Scratch that. No season 8.

Just a flat out no from me. Ending it with season 7, strike or not, would force the writers to progress Clark and Lex beyond the incessant Lana-merry-go-round, and not focus on their Guest-Star Spinoff. In fact, I'd rather a spin-off be approved, Kara leave, so that the focus can be retained on the actual main characters of the show. If that means season 8 is the equivalent of the season 7 episodes that don't air, so be it.

I'm torn, honestly. If S7 ends prematurely due to the strike, then I think I want a wrap up since from all appearances, the shortened S7 ending they already have planned doesn't do that. But I'm not sure another full season is required.

I'd go with the suggestion a few of us have had in the past of getting a half season to wrap up SV, and then have them try out a spin-off as a mid-season to see how it does. Or just another mid-season replacement.

I hate myself for saying it, but bring on season eight. Al and Miles have shown that when they have limited network interference and a clear endpoint (first half of season five), they can deliver. It is when unexpected things come up (season four and six) that everything goes to hell. This is with the caveat, of course, than any season eight does not turn into SpinOffVille, with Kara and GA saving the world while Clark spends his days milking the cows and sharing barn scenes with Lana. Fierce and Lara gave me more than enough of the LV show guest starring the regular cast, thank you.

The other issue is the strike. Craig has said the writers may have gotten through episode 16 - which means we will not get the 10 episode arc Al always talks about. There will be a lot issues left hanging, and we already know two episodes (Siren, Hero) will be focused of guest characters. Considering how poorly Smallville wraps things up with 22 episodes (many issues ignored until the finale or the first 1-2 episodes of the following season) and the inability of the writers to make script changes, a lot of stuff would just get dropped or ignored.

If the writers have a clear objective, and clear benchmarks to hit, then I think they can produce something good. Craig has hinted that the romance / angst stuff is getting reduced after Blue in favor of Clark / mythology-centric episodes, always a plus. Set up the endgame, sign MR / KK / AM to more director gigs or reduced episodes, and go for it.

HELL NO!

If they got shorted they should wrap it up on a two hour TV movie or something like it...I'm sick of this show but I'm to curious to quit.

Barry Levine had a great quote about the writer's strike that sums up the idea of SV's Season 8:

"Do we really have to drag a dead horse over the finish line just so we can shoot it?" Amen, brother. I'm firmly in the "Hell No!" camp. I've seen the same old story of everyone-loves-Lana for far too many years already.

Give them another season and they'll just do more absurd triangles, more of discovering new magically-acquired talents for Lana, more of Clark dithering about whether to stay on the farm or get off his steel ass and go help some goddamn people, and more of Lex getting thrown through something from the Plate Glass Furniture Store. Enough, already.

Take your tired shtick somewhere else, Goughlar. You bored me at Lana's hello.

I'd vote for No. However, I think a strike shortened season pretty much guarantees that they are going to need some continuation to bring the show to any sort of satisfying conclusion.

But if they do go for a S8, I really do believe that they need to lose a few cast members (KK, I'm looking at you), and narrow the focus on the show to primarily Clark and Lex. I think a S8 filled with Clana is just absolutely, utterly pointless and destructive. And I think a S8 of gueststarVille is just goughlar desperation.

No. I think it'd only be quasi-justified if S7 is shortened. And S8 should have

1) no fracking Clana, Clexana, Lexana, no fracking stalkers after the Holy Grail that Goughlar thinks Lana's body is
2) no larding with guest stars to the point that the guest star has more time than the supposed hero of this story

I don't think that 10 episode arc exists. I think they'll just do a crash landing that they always do and I think the quicker the unsatisfying conclusion comes, the better.

We don't know a whole lot about this "ten episode arc", or at least I don't. Does it start off slow as C/B plots and gradually come into focus or is it all A plots the whole way through? The way they do arcs I tend to think it would start off as B/C plot stuff and build. They know if the back of their minds season seven could be it so if they're smart the 16 they already have in the can lays the ground work for the final arc should they have to wrap things up this season. If the strike is short I'd like to think they still have time to tweak the last couple of episodes they've already written and finish everything off this year.

If the strike forces them to end the season short without finishing the story then, yeah, I want season eight. Zod help me, I must be a masochist.

I'm torn. On one hand, the show I once loved ended for me a long time ago--maybe with the decline of S4. There was a resurgence of quality in S5, but for me, the show has failed to deliver for a long time now. The letdown of the S3 Luthor arc never being totally fleshed out, S4 Witchy!Lana and the GSoK, S6 Lexana, Clark's constant vacillation, the Clana hamster wheel 7 years in, etc. At this point, I'm more or less tuning in just for the hell of it. The talent of actors like JG, MR, and AM should and could be much better utilized elsewhere, and for them, I hope it ends.

Then there's that stubborn part of me that refuses to believe I'll never see even a sliver of a Chlark relationship. I've been waiting for 7 seasons, and still nothing. If S8 brings just a little, I'm for it. I love Clark with Chloe, I love Chloe with Clark, and I'd LOVE to see how the Luthors would affect that relationship. No more Kara, minimal Jimmy and Lois, lose Lana, incorporat the JLA. I just want to see that magic return, and as, for me, Chlark is the heart of the show, the potential is there is the story is handled well.

I was barely out of college when this show started, and, lame as it sounds, it's sort of like an old friend that's been with me through many seasons of my own life. For that reason, I'll see this through to the bloody, bitter end, whenever that comes.

To expand on this topic a bit, should the show get its 8th season (and assuming this season ends on the 16th episode), what do you need/want to see happen for the show to reach a reasonably satisfying conclusion for you?

No one does. AlMiles just said they have this ten episode arc that will wrap everything up. A lot of people don't even believe it exists and that it's just another example of them talking out of their ass. I personally believe that they could probably wrap everything up in 2 or 3 episodes.

I would want a short season and one where's intricately planned out. Whereas usually every episode is loosely connected and sometimes contradictory, I want to get a sense that these people can plan something ahead. I want it to be almost like a miniseries where everything comes to a head.

Everything else I want is what I've wanted for years. A more pro-active Clark, a Lex treated more than generic evil guy, characters to grow personalities or spines. The sense that they care about Clark and Smallville and are not just twiddling their thumbs waiting to hear about another season.

But I just want to reiterate, I only would accept a season 8 if the strike causes season 7 (and the series) to end at episode 16. If there was another way for the show to end, like they did with Birds of Prey, with a 2 hour episode I'd gladly accept that.

1. Lana is a meteor freak.
2. Chlois

Bonus points for:
No Training at the Fortress of Solitude
Perry

- First and foremost, like probably the majority around here, Clark moved - not moving, moved - on from Lana, whether she's still a character on the show or not. A firm acceptance of his heritage/destiny. Flying would be nice, too.

- Clark and Lex firmly set up as adversaries/enemies. They were getting there in S6, but so far in S7 they seem to back on fairly civil terms. A clear division needs to be made.

- If they're going to Chlois, they need to make it obvious before the series ender. A surprise in the finale isn't what I want to see.

- If they're not, then I need a more competant and genuinely successful Lois career wise (Clois can wait) and a firm future for Chloe, be that as a new part of the future mythos as a reporter still at the DP, or established in another role, and preferably not dead.

- Lana also given a firm future role, be that off with Pete, re-opening Nell's flower shop and settling down in Smallville on her own, travelling the world, locked up in Belle Reve - whatever.

As for the rest, Lionel, Kara, Jimmy etc, I really don't have any specific issues I think I need to see with them. The main four - or five, if you want to count EDLois, as she's going to factor into the future one way or another - are the ones I care about having a firm path into their future roles.


I'd take this, too, if we get a shortened S7 and they don't get a full or even partial S8 to wrap it all up. Possibly even a two-parter type mini-series like Farscape did with The Peacekeeper Wars, though I don't know how feesible that would be.

I actually think a season 8 is a lock, at least in some form, especially if there is a strike. The show makes to much money for the CW for them to let it go unfinished. So I would expect at least an 11 episode season, ala Seventh Heaven. I think this shortened season would be enough to convince MR and AM to stay.

As to what I want to see?

Clark accepting his destiny, Chlois, Lana to die a fiery death(for realz this time), Lex become the bad-ass Motherfucker he is destined to be, Lionel to die, and Clark in the suit for the final episode.

I think I can pretty much ditto your whole list there Polar. :)

You might get some of the things you want even if it does end this year.

If they end at #15 though, and there is a Season 8, there's no way we'd at least not get a premiere with MR, KK, and AM... they'd be important for the storyline, and probably worth any money it would take to get them back to at least wrap themselves up.

Big tease ;) ;)




Yeah, I can definitely see that, especially if none of their storylines is wrapped up by 15. But I do firmly believe that any of those characters could probably have their stories wrapped up in far less then a full S8. In fact, I think wrapping up Lana is incredibly easy. She and Clark end, Lana leaves town. Story wrapped up.

Pretty close to mine. Chlois, definitely. And Clark making the decision to be a hero - really need that. It's the most important to me. And not out of guilt or obligation, but as a calling, and something that he loves.

At this point, I don't care what they do with Lana. She's all over the map with her actions, motivations, etc. and there's just no consistent character there. I guess I'd like her to get psychological help
(and be committed) somewhere other than Belle Reve with the implication she'll get help and be released later. I don't want her dead - don't want her a martyr, and I don't want her unselfishly letting Clark go so he can embrace his destiny. For a happier ending for Lana fans - she gets sane and unevil and acknowledges her wrong-doings and leaves town without the money to start over somewhere else, not Metropolis.

Definitely want Clark realizing he and Lana aren't meant to be, even if she's not evil or mentally unbalanced.

Lex to kill Lionel, and firmly usurp his throne. Lionel cannot be a good guy here.

Your bonus on no training is on my more important list. I want an explanation for the evil/inconsistent activities of AI-Jor-El and for Clark definitely not to take instruction or training from it in its current state.

Bonus Points:
Perry, as you said
See Martha at least once more, well-used
Clark lets go of the idea that he's responsible for anything Lex has done (or Lana has done)
Clark decides on journalism
The suit - Clark in it or holding it or a Daily Planet frontpage with a picture of Superman - I'd love any of those

I would add a third.

3. Lex knowing Clark's secret.

I don't think they should do an 8th season. The odd # seasons are so much better than the even # ones. I just can't see them breaking this trend that has been true their whole run.

This is hard, because I feel like they've been on the path to wrapping up almost everything I've been waiting to see this season. They are tying all the storylines together and moving the core four into their final places so if they got another 22 episodes to do that, I think they'd just dilute the characters, undo the progress they've made and basically force the audience to sit thru filler to get to about 7 episodes worth of development.



1. Chlois (I want to see Allison smiling working behind that name plate under the Tiffany lamps and know it worked out right.)
2. Clark flying, Clark working at the DP in glasses
3. Chloe and Lana Delete Rematch that lasts a good long time. I'm thinking a Bourne level fight.
4. Lex and Chloe to have a big showdown....or sex. Or both.
5. Nois to die permanently.
6. An explanation for how no one recognizes Clark even though they knew him without glasses.
7. Clark to state that helping people and the world makes him happy. That he finds his life satisfying and he isn't doing it because it is a chore that only he can do. I don't want Superman to only help because he feels guilty. I'd like to think he finds it rewarding.
8. Clex to close out the series on a note that captures the complicated nature of their relationship.

This can't be said enough. Lex needs to kill Lionel, and it can't be presented as the tragic death of the good Lionel Luthor. Lionel is just as evil as ever and the only way Lex can have the confidence to become the superpower he becomes is for Lionel to be out of the way, permanently.

I also agree with Lex knowing Clark's secret. And that Clark must grow up, not be forced to grow up.

7H didn't get an 11 episode season. The final season was a full 22. A full, horrible, painful 22.

Lex: Lex needs to have someone killed for no other reason than profit. He might have done it in the past, but we have no way of knowing for sure.

Chloe: I want Chloe to decide that journalism isn't good enough for her and to become a full-time superhero, blowing the lid off stories that no normal journalist could ever find out about.

Lois: She needs to crack a story that a normal reporter couldn't crack with 12 pack and a stack of Playboy magazines. As it is now, she's completely useless without her army connections, and only marginally useful with them.

Lana: I just want someone, anyone, to hold Lana accountable for her actions. Although I suppose Lionel beat everybody else to it.

Lionel: I'm sorry to say this, but I think Lionel needs to die at the hands of one of Lex's hitmen. I can't think of any other viable outcome for his character.

Clark: Clark needs to
1) realize that he can help random strangers. He's done it in the past, he can do it on a daily basis.
2) become a bastion of absolute moral good, truth and justice.
3) take his place as leader of the Justice League.
4) defeat a supervillain in a truly epic fight. The only fights I can think of that qualifies is his fight with Titan and his fight with Brainiac in the Fortress of Solitude. The Zod and Bizarro fights were both cop outs.

If there is an 8th season, it needs to be about Clark becoming Superman, nothing else. They can (and should) show Lois and the Justice League moving forward, but all their plotlines should revolve around Clark becoming Superman.

1) Focus on Clark and Lex. Screw Guest Star-ville
2) Chlois. Develop and work it out.
3) Kill Lana. Return focus to the characters of Clark and Lex and *not* how much they want to possess Lana's uterus.
4) Get rid of the superfluous characters (Kara, EDLois), and *focus* on your main ones.

It could help put my kid through college, so sure, why not?

I agree that typically, even seasons are crap on this show. They just tend to be; now if it was a mini-season (11ish) with the main four and moving more for the sum up? That could work. I could even take sort of a mini time jump if Almiles are hung up on Clark training; I personally am not a fan and would rather see Clark spend bits and pieces of being drawn into help the outside world.

1. Clark get a job in the mail room to start working his way up ASAP. As much as he needs hero training, and as much as I love him investigating, it would be nice for Clark to start exploring things he wants to do. But in this slow growing up and starting off point - he's got to leave where he's at now, in a way, behind.
2. Chlois, with a good smart plot to wrap it up. This includes her breaking the LuthorCorp/Level 3/33.1 story she's been working on for 7 years.
3. Lex knowing about Clark and thus turning the power status on it's ear; additionally it wouldn't hurt to see his philanthropy pay off thus paving the way for Prez Luthor & Co. This includes him murdering his father and getting away with it.
4. Lana taking her place as the dark lady; either as Lex's First Lady or like the comics, running LuthorCorp or something to that effect.

Really focus on the main four characters, and how they shape one another, and where that leads them to. I mean that's the core of the show, and I think those are the people that most viewers watch for, and I think the show excels when it keeps it about taking those big steps towards how it's a cause and effect story, really molding it into how the story we didn't know changes everything about the story we "do."

Bonus Points
- Perry, cleaning out the vestiges of Grant and setting the DP right again
- Clark and Jimmy, BFF.
- Suit
- Early Glasses Adoption (like a good year before going publically Superman)
- More wrapping up of the loose end characters (Bring back Martha and others for example)

I'd like to offer a quick explaination as to why Lana is a meteor freak is number one on my list. It's because overcoming a supernatural force that could show how strong Clark really is in the end. If he's mind controlled, along with so many other men, yet still as genuinely drawn to a life of service as we see him be with Chloe, then the story makes sense. If he's just been mopey and depressed all this time because he's an idiot, then he's not Supes, he's Spiderman or Batman or something.

So as to season 8? If it takes that long to tell the ending right, OK. I do suspect filler though.

Are you sure? I could have sworn that when they got that last second renewal after they did their first series finale, that it was only for 11 episodes.

According to our records, final episode was 11-22.

I think Chiri and Massena have pretty well summed it up, so I'd just simply agree with their points. I would add Chlark to that list because I think it fits nicely and is consistant with the series logic that has already developed their partnership in all the right ways. Clark's legendary love relationship with ILL is a part of the legend, so it would be nice to actually see Clark happy, in love and stable with the show's one woman who is actually able and willing to push him to be the hero the world despertaly needs. Clark certainly needs to see the need to get proactive as a hero, and he needs to see that from a place within himself, but Chloe does see his natural heroism and the larger calling on his life. The show has been so unhappy and dark for a long time now. It would be nice just to see Chlark happy and in love. Clark & chloe deserve to be happy, and it would be nice for them to walk towards the future together. So, I'd add these final details to Chiri's and Massena's lists.

1. Chlois
2. Chlark
3. Lex knowing Clark's secret. It just would be very refreshing to have Lex know and have him keep it a secret from everyone so he and only he has the power to destroy Clark's life if he ever chooses to.
4. Lana dead or Lex's lady again.

Bonus Points
1. If Lois dies trying to save Chloe.
2. Clark gets a job at the DP.

*chuckle* I would relish a Clex-centric ep in which the guys discovered that Lana's meteor power was to make everyone fall in love with her. The blinders would fall off, they'd be all: OMG, NOW it all makes sense! and they'd both immediately get over her. Even if they stayed enemies, it would be so great to see that happen. And we could all quit arguing about why the hell everyone thinks Lana's so great, because we'd finally KNOW, too!


Do I want an 8th season?

Yes.

Am I gravely disappointed with how the show has conducted itself over the past few seasons?

Yes.

But SV is my only fandom, and once it goes off the air, it's gone for good, with no hope of anything new, canonically. While it's on, there's still the chance of a good ep now and then, of current Clark and Lex, some good screen caps, and some good discussion, even if it's us just complaining and WTF-ing and trying to make it all make sense.

Granted, my expectations of, and pleasure in, this series have been greatly reduced. At this point, I'm taking whatever I can get. I'm in till the bitter end, and no matter how bad it gets, I just can't say I'd ever be against us getting new material, even if it's substandard. As someone said upthread, it's been with me for six years, now, and through some dark times. I know it has to end someday, but I want to hold onto it for as long as we can, because once it's gone, it's gone.

Lex kills Lionel with a meteor rock dagger, telling him I've known about you and Clark/Kal-el since season 3. A quick cut to Clark zipping in and out of the mansion. Although this should happen this year, so Lex can be uber-badass for more than a handful of episodes.

Lana and her video feed capturing Lex killing Lionel and blackmailing her way into a secured position at Lexcorp. This would be the point where Clark drops her azz. And she can be bad.

Lois dies trying to get the story on Lionels death. Chloe takes on Lois' name as a tribute.

Clark wakes the hell up and gets with Chloe, dons the tights and fade to its all good.

Ah...yes. Clark should be working at the DP in some capacity, minimum. Ideally, he should be partnered with Chloe, who mentors him in reporting as she once did at the Torch. And really, if he has any chance at ever fooling anyone, those glasses need to be front and center. Yes, yes, I know they are loath to cover up TW's face and I understand that but it's part of the story and wearing glasses when he's at the DP is just part of it. Let Clark take them off when he's not around other people, maybe gripe about it and have to hurredly get them on when someone approaches. It's time.

Clark must firmly wise up, see Lana as the psychotic, self-centered, manipulative bitch she's always been and kick her to the curb. He should allow her the chance to admit her many wrongs then work to see her pay for them when she refuses. (of course she'd refuse! Lana feels she's better than everyone else or she would never have asked the Luthors to cover up her killing Jason's mother or she would never have done the other nasty things she's gotten away with.) Clark must show he actually has and is using his superior Kryptonian brain. And, I think after all this time it's only fair we see Clark in the suit. We might see him flying overhead or perhaps running down an alley or rushing into the supply room and ripping open his dress suit to reveal the S. That has to be the final ep; we deserve it.

Lana at Lex Luthor's side would make sense but no more of this stupid Clark and Lex fighting over a girl. That's just dumb and cheapens both Clark and Lex, making them both look like fools. So smart Clark with his eyes wide open and Lex, squaring off with him and manipulating Lana instead of behaving like a silly schoolboy who praises her for all her nastiness.

It's obvious that Lex is practically holding Clark and Kara's secret in his hands. He's going to know who Clark really is unless there is another concussive or chemical even that snatches it away. Personally, I'd like it if Lex knew or was always just a step away from indisputable proof.

Yes, Chiri, it woudl be so cool to see both Martha and Perry again. Remind us Martha still exists and Perry cleaning up after the mess GG left would be perfect.

Frankly, Kara is ok but I still abhor the idea that she appears, flying and all before Clark. She can disappear and I wouldn't miss her; she's an excuse not to focus on Clark, the real central character of this show. I want to see Clark growing and most of all overcoming his fear of heights and flying and letting us see his get through it. That shoudl have happened starting two years ago.

Chloe has always been what Lois Lane should be. She's earned her way into the DP on more than one occasion, she's done the work of ILL for seven years and I want to see that initiative and spark rewarded by a Chlois reveal and not, as another poster mentioned, at the very end. We need build-up and enough eps that we can enjoy it. Smallville has a bad habit of springing things on viewers and I, for one, don't like it most of the time. I want to see Chloe rewarded for her hard work and dedication by that move upstairs under the Tiffany lights and the name tag Lois Lane on her desk. Of course, it looked like it was already on her desk recently anyway.

As for Nois, she can go be a combat florist for the marines, move to Des Moines, become Cat Grant since that is the only job she could do with her lack of education and experience, go back to school or get a job at a paper she actually earns if she wants to become a real reporter or she can die. I don't really care much since she is now no longer the loyal sister figure she was previously and that is the only way she ever worked on this show. She really has point and the less we see of her the better at this point.

They should begin setting this up NOW and end the stupid angst. I want to see Smallville bring itself and Clark to a decent conclusion and the work toward that end needs to start right now to be believable.

The show will NEVER give me this but if you want me to believe clark is about Justice with a capital J then I want him to treat both Lex and Lana equally. I don't want him to blame himself 100% for Lana's downfall and turn around and totally think he and his jolly friends were totally kosher and pristine with Lex (sorry but hugging and sharing turkey with Lionel, being pals with Ollie, both of whom have tortured Lex, does not make me a happy camper). He either says I played a part in BOTH their falls or he says they're both screwed up and neither of their craziness is due to me but none of this barfy Lex is naturally evol and Lana caught his taint because of MEMEMEME.

Also, I want torture denounced on this show no matter who does it. None of this if good guys do it, it's OK nonsense.

Ollie did not torture Lex. Yes, his goons did, but he'd had orders against it. He is a kidnapper, but not a torturer. Totally agree about Lionel, and agreeing about Lana depends on whether or not she's supposed to be mentally stable. If so, then I agree, if not, then he needs to have her institutionalized (in a good hospital) so she can get some help. Oh, and you can include Jor-El in there with Lionel for my money on people who've done horrific things and shouldn't be trusted.

Ollie is a murderer actually. He committed felony murder when his goons killed Lex's PI.

The problem is that trying to say Lana is crazy due to her trauma and therefore not responsible for her actions is just another act of favoritism that lets her off the hook because frankly Lex has gone through similiar stuff for much longer with a lot less support from family/friends and actual direct neurological trauma (Asylum/Memoria). So I still stand by this: They're either BOTH crazy or they're BOTH evil but trying to parse one as a pitiful victim while the other has not even though they share much of the same behavior/experiences does not fly at all.

Failure to do that = F- for the series no matter how well Clark flies/writes/whatever.

Also permanent fix AND acknowledgement that the AI is fracked up.

Is this a trick question? Probably.
Do I want another season of Smallville? No, unless the whole cast minus KK returns.
Will there be an eighth season? Yes. Life hates me.

To me, the show is basically toward the end. All developments that were needed happened a long time ago. The love triangles and superhero guest stars are just more desperate stalling. Once the final season is announced, there is nothing but forward motion. That doesn't even need a whole ten or eight episodes. Another season would be another season of stalling.

What do I want if getting another season?

My ten:
- Chlois, duh. OR EDLois to quit her current position, actually finish high school, college, work her way up to being an ethical hard working ace reporter and get into the Daily Planet through proper means while Chloe becomes Watchtower and remains reporter for DP.
- Lana to die horribly in a way that doesn't make her a martyr, but the manipulative bitch she is.
- Clark to realize helping others/world makes him happy, not out of guilt.
- The long running hints of Chloe being the one to help Clark unlock his power of flight to be fulfilled.
- Lex to kill Lionel, embrace the darkness fully, and be evil schemer on screen.
- More super villains, damn it! And fight scenes that make scene and last five minutes.
- Some explanations into AI Jor El's motives.
- The whole truth about Krypton.
- Clark to get into the Daily Planet and wear glasses.
- No more mind whammies and characters to be held accountable for THEIR OWN actions and face the repercussions.

We'll have to disagree on that. It's pretty clear Block was working for himself then and not Ollie (note that he call Ollie "your boss" and talks about entrepreneurship and selling info on the open market). Don't see how Ollie can be guilty of a murder Block committed when Block was working for himself. Now, if Wagner had done it, I might agree (probably not, though, as it was specifically against what they were told to do). However, I did not find the episode memorable, so I guess I could have the details wrong.

You can argue that you don't think he should be culpable for murder, but the rules of felony murder are clear. When you hire a bunch of shady goons to kidnap someone, it is forseeable that someone might get killed as a result of the crime. This is what happened, and thus Ollie is guilty of felony murder. Doesn't matter that Ollie told them not to kill anyone. He ordered them to commit a violent crime and death is a forseeable result.

Tzigone, that would be my list, too.

1) Clark making the decision to be a hero because he *wants* to be one, not because of the end of Clana
2) Chlois, definitely, absolutely.
3) Lex usurping Lionel's throne because he *wants* to be evil, and not because of the end of Lexana. (I could buy it being partially about Clex, though)
4) Lana getting sane and acknowledging her wrong-doings then leaving town.
5) No Fortress training. bonus points for Clark realizing the AI in the Fortress is malfunctioning and needs a tune-up to stop being bipolar.
6) Clark deciding on journalism, bonus points for a Perry appearance.

Superbonus points for the return of Pete and Martha, even for one episode.

Count me as one that would like to see a Season 8. Mainly because I would miss my SV (mmm,TW) fix.

My list is about the same as the others.
1) Clark choose to be a hero because that's what he wants to do.
2) A wonderful season with No Lana. (I wish she would've stayed in Paris.)
My meaning is that the stories would focus on Clark and Lex more.
3) I want MR and AM to come back.
4) Lex to be more like early Lionel from S1 through S4
5) Chloe to be happy and not have the Tears of Suck
6) Clark becoming a journalist
7) A hint of Lois and Clark together
8) Jimmy being Clark's pal
9) No Kara, no Ollie
10) More diverse villans

You know I could be down with Lana having the power of persuasion (she did have kryptonite around her neck for how many years)? The more I think about it, the more I could be down with it - especially if it is used by Lex for his own means.

blankslate - that could be a fun watch.



See, I always thought Lion-El was meta on how bad our Jor-El was, not how good Lionel suddenly was.



I would also give bonus points if we find out it's Zor-El or something like that, and it's replaced with a more stable AI like Lara or the memories of Kandor or something.



I'm probably in minority, but if they show how Plexana end up the Prez, VP, and First Lady, I would be really, really impressed. The missed opportunities to set up Lex and Pete during Bo's senate race still make me sad.

I also think S8 is a lock, with or without ending S7 early.

I want S8. I still enjoy SV, it's still must-see-TV for me. I suspect from this year's ratings I will not be alone.

I'm anticipating more of the same (the entire cast returning because they see the light at the end of the tunnel) right up until the 10 episode arc.

What I hope we see:
- some flash forward as the last shot that shows CK at the DP with the suit underneath and him starting to reveal it as he runs off screen
- flight
- unambiguous multi-episode story wrap up with each of the characters in the credits
- no Soprano blasé ending.

that's it.

What would ruin the series for me:
- if they completely derailed his Superman future or left Clana still together

I think these are unlikely.

My needs are simple.

I think season 7 should wrap up the story we didn't know angle and then the half season (# 8) should jump to the future post training where we see how it all connected.

season 8:
1. Clark accepting his destiny because he realizes that it is not only his responsibility but what he wants to do in the future. Off to training.
2. Chlois absolutely; Where Nois dies permanently and Chloe's big break comes with the 33.1 article and Lex expose. Well developed.
3. Lex finding out the secret in a big way. Clex as mortal enemies set up because of good vs. evil NOT Lana. Lex kills his father and is not caught.
4. Lana further descends into darkness. Chlana confrontation that makes them enemies as well. Clark's recognition and denouncing of Lana's evil deeds.
5. Clark in journalism. Mailroom? + Glasses!
6. Lexana is back. Lex at the throne of his company, Lana by his side running it for him.

Bonus points:
-Perry
-Chlarkimmy team
-Suit
-FLIGHT! or Chlark Flight
-Soul bracelets. b/c they need to mean SOMETHING.

As Chloe is about the only reason I watch anymore, Chlois is top priority. It's too late to save Clark for me. Just gimme Chlois and I'm happy.